Swedish climate activist Greta Thunberg on cover of TIME

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mcgruff10 said:

cincybearcat said:

Part of the issue with cost is actually in the financing. I can always get 0-1.9% financing from the car mfgrs I’ve bought. Tesla does not offer that. 

Nice cars and I would want one, but you make it all wheel drive, add in the color cost, add in the self-driving (and why would you buy a Tesla without it???)...it’s not cheap.

Tesla s are ridiculously expensive.  Plus from what I read you can’t even buy them after you lease. No thanks. 

In NJ 0% sales tax and 10% savings  on peek toll price incentives

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And the federal tax credit is $1750 +, enough for your charging station.🙂

mcgruff10

Cheapest model is 75k at approx $1100/month.  Yeah hell no lol

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mcgruff10 said:

Cheapest model is 75k at approx $1100/month.  Yeah hell no lol

Suv?

mcgruff10

Hi! said:

mcgruff10 said:

Cheapest model is 75k at approx $1100/month.  Yeah hell no lol

Suv?

No four door.  Couldn’t find a suv in my area.  

Hi!

mcgruff10 said:

Hi! said:

mcgruff10 said:

Cheapest model is 75k at approx $1100/month.  Yeah hell no lol

Suv?

No four door.  Couldn’t find a suv in my area.  

Hmm... I don’t see that. Model 3 is starting at 35000. It is a 4 door.

mcgruff10

Hi! said:

mcgruff10 said:

Cheapest model is 75k at approx $1100/month.  Yeah hell no lol

Suv?

Just found it, 81k.    Yikes

Spiritual_Chaos

Ledbetterman10 said:

"Well you're obviously very passionate about her so anything that isn't full-on praise of her might come off as "disregarding" her to you"

You are always free to point me in the direction of your favorite Alt-Right fringe Canadian youtube channel for when you need some of this "disregarding" of Greta.

Maybe a segment or two on the dangers of feminism will be available from there too?

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mcgruff10 said:

Hi! said:

mcgruff10 said:

Cheapest model is 75k at approx $1100/month.  Yeah hell no lol

Suv?

Just found it, 81k.    Yikes

And it probably has auto pilot and all the upgrades?
I think were looking at different models.

Smellyman

These are getting more and more popular in Taiwan.  Scooters are the main source of transport here and Gogoro electric scooters are all the rage.

https://www.gogoro.com/

There are battery stations setup all over (more than gas stations)  just pull up take out your battery and exchange with a charged battery.

Ledbetterman10

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

"Well you're obviously very passionate about her so anything that isn't full-on praise of her might come off as "disregarding" her to you"

You are always free to point me in the direction of your favorite Alt-Right fringe Canadian youtube channel for when you need some of this "disregarding" of Greta.

Maybe a segment or two on the dangers of feminism will be available from there too?

I think you're projecting other people's "disregard" of this girl (which apparently upsets you) onto me. The the entire premise of my original post was "Hey she's a kid with a disorder, leave her alone." And from that you're apparently lumping me in with alt-right Canadians that hate her....or something? HOW DARE YOU!

dignin

Smellyman said:

These are getting more and more popular in Taiwan.  Scooters are the main source of transport here and Gogoro electric scooters are all the rage.

https://www.gogoro.com/

There are battery stations setup all over (more than gas stations)  just pull up take out your battery and exchange with a charged battery.

That's pretty sweet.

mcgruff10

dignin said:

Smellyman said:

These are getting more and more popular in Taiwan.  Scooters are the main source of transport here and Gogoro electric scooters are all the rage.

https://www.gogoro.com/

There are battery stations setup all over (more than gas stations)  just pull up take out your battery and exchange with a charged battery.

That's pretty sweet.

Until you hit a squirrel lol.  

Spiritual_Chaos

mcgruff10 said:

dignin said:

Smellyman said:

These are getting more and more popular in Taiwan.  Scooters are the main source of transport here and Gogoro electric scooters are all the rage.

https://www.gogoro.com/

There are battery stations setup all over (more than gas stations)  just pull up take out your battery and exchange with a charged battery.

That's pretty sweet.

Until you hit a squirrel lol.  

https://youtu.be/oOS00ttAblQ

brianlux

I have a 2008 Prius.  It's really well made, I can get as high as 50 MPG on the flats and I hope to have it for at least 300,000 miles.  I feel good about all that and I think it's a FAR better choice than a pick up truck or SUV, etc.  But the fact remains, we cannot continue on as a car addicted, one person per vehicle society.  Not with 7.7 billion people on earth.  ALL cars require a large amount of resources (including water) to build.  ALL cars require mining operations that destroy natural habitat.  And they all use energy of one sort or another.  If the world were not so heavily populated, we could all drive our little fuel efficient cars and be happy happy happy.  But in this over-crowed world where we take more from the earth than Mother Nature can provide each year, that just can't go on indefinitely.

rgambs

mcgruff10 said:

dignin said:

Smellyman said:

These are getting more and more popular in Taiwan.  Scooters are the main source of transport here and Gogoro electric scooters are all the rage.

https://www.gogoro.com/

There are battery stations setup all over (more than gas stations)  just pull up take out your battery and exchange with a charged battery.

That's pretty sweet.

Until you hit a squirrel lol.  

I 100% knew you would have a pseudo-macho, not very funny joke to respond with and you did not (or did?) disappoint.

mcgruff10

rgambs said:

mcgruff10 said:

dignin said:

Smellyman said:

These are getting more and more popular in Taiwan.  Scooters are the main source of transport here and Gogoro electric scooters are all the rage.

https://www.gogoro.com/

There are battery stations setup all over (more than gas stations)  just pull up take out your battery and exchange with a charged battery.

That's pretty sweet.

Until you hit a squirrel lol.  

I 100% knew you would have a pseudo-macho, not very funny joke to respond with and you did not (or did?) disappoint.

Oh francis lighten up and enjoy your scooter.  But if you feel safe on one of those feel free to transport your family around Ohio.  Merging onto the turnpike would be loads of fun. 

mrussel1

This is all very fascinating...

rgambs

mcgruff10 said:

rgambs said:

mcgruff10 said:

dignin said:

Smellyman said:

These are getting more and more popular in Taiwan.  Scooters are the main source of transport here and Gogoro electric scooters are all the rage.

https://www.gogoro.com/

There are battery stations setup all over (more than gas stations)  just pull up take out your battery and exchange with a charged battery.

That's pretty sweet.

Until you hit a squirrel lol.  

I 100% knew you would have a pseudo-macho, not very funny joke to respond with and you did not (or did?) disappoint.

Oh francis lighten up and enjoy your scooter.  But if you feel safe on one of those feel free to transport your family around Ohio.  Merging onto the turnpike would be loads of fun. 

True, I don't live in an area where that is a practical solution, and you may not either.  
The thing is, nobody ever claimed it was a practical solution for situations like ours...which is why your predictable joke is lame.  It's like the Busch Lite version of a truck nuts attitude.  You can't recognize the practicality of something like scooters without a disclaimer that it isn't tough enough or cool enough. 
I get that it was a joke, and I'm not half as offended as you think I am, but it is disheartening to see sentiments (even the lite versions) like that outside of the typical Facebook post from two-tooth, dirty wifebeater MAGA morons who are running around saying they will burn some tires in Greta's honor or rolling coal to spite her.

kce8

Goodness, does not one of you clever men have a daughter at home?
Not even a teacher can hint in the position of a teenager? McGruff do not you have 4 or 5 kids of your own?

Your talk here makes me really stunned.
You men always talk about the world's most important topics, want to know everything and are not able to interpret the situation of Greta correctly?

Has anyone ever come up with the idea of ​​the unbelievable pressure on such a young person to constantly stand in public, always in the knowledge that most of people might think they are too young and inexperienced anyway and that they are not really taken seriously ?

Have you ever seen an interview with her in which she describes how and why she has gone all this way?

You talk about "overacting" and "performing" ... what else?
Did you ever try to empathize with her situation or even imagine how it would be if your daughter had to go through all this?
All this hate and all the rejection she gets from everywhere, although she has only something good in mind for everyone?

And you do not know that people with the Asperger syndrome can suppress their feelings bad?

Instead of supporting someone who really wants to make things positive, people are just hostile to each other and the really important questions are not asked.

Yes, I just had to get rid of this, emotionally and spontaneously, exactly as it is not wanted here. Well I'm just a female too.
But man, sometimes it just gets crazy here.

Maybe one of you will read and think through it. That would be nice. 
Thanks