Swedish climate activist Greta Thunberg on cover of TIME

mcgruff10

Ledbetterman10 said:

Well since that Lovely Rita parody is on the "I love her" side of the "yikes" spectrum, here's one from the "I hate her" side of the "yikes" spectrum. I don't get it. Why are some people up in arms about this girl to the point where they'd say crazy stuff about her? I watched her UN speech, agreed with most of her points, laughed and cringed at her overdramatic performance, and moved on. This guy should be more like that. Just watch it and move on....

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/greta-thunberg-post-soccer-coach-fired

I liked her message a lot but I do agree with you that she was overdramatic at some points.  (Maybe that was her disability coming out a little?)
However I don't get the hate, to me it's great that she is rallying people to make some positive change.  

Ledbetterman10

mcgruff10 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Well since that Lovely Rita parody is on the "I love her" side of the "yikes" spectrum, here's one from the "I hate her" side of the "yikes" spectrum. I don't get it. Why are some people up in arms about this girl to the point where they'd say crazy stuff about her? I watched her UN speech, agreed with most of her points, laughed and cringed at her overdramatic performance, and moved on. This guy should be more like that. Just watch it and move on....

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/greta-thunberg-post-soccer-coach-fired

I liked her message a lot but I do agree with you that she was overdramatic at some points.  (Maybe that was her disability coming out a little?)
However I don't get the hate, to me it's great that she is rallying people to make some positive change.  

It's all political. Climate-change advocacy is looked at as a "left" cause, so the right is going to fight it. No need to be mean about it though. She's a kid with Asperger's. People need to lighten up.

Spiritual_Chaos

Ledbetterman10 said:

mcgruff10 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Well since that Lovely Rita parody is on the "I love her" side of the "yikes" spectrum, here's one from the "I hate her" side of the "yikes" spectrum. I don't get it. Why are some people up in arms about this girl to the point where they'd say crazy stuff about her? I watched her UN speech, agreed with most of her points, laughed and cringed at her overdramatic performance, and moved on. This guy should be more like that. Just watch it and move on....

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/greta-thunberg-post-soccer-coach-fired

I liked her message a lot but I do agree with you that she was overdramatic at some points.  (Maybe that was her disability coming out a little?)
However I don't get the hate, to me it's great that she is rallying people to make some positive change.  

It's all political. Climate-change advocacy is looked at as a "left" cause, so the right is going to fight it. No need to be mean about it though. She's a kid with Asperger's. People need to lighten up.

Why are people focusing so much on her having Asberger?

...it's not uncommon... and it's not like she's an alien from another planet.

This constant focus on that.... like what has her having Asbeger to do with people having to lighten up or not?

From your post it sure sounds just like a way to disregard her or wave her away.

And Sally Field was "overdramatic" (disgusting word to use in the context of Gretas speech) when she won an Oscar - she must have Asbergers?

Spiritual_Chaos

Sounds like how men would disregard women in like the 40s... 

"People need to lighten up. She's just a woman.. .driving a car"

icky as hell.

Ledbetterman10

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mcgruff10 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Well since that Lovely Rita parody is on the "I love her" side of the "yikes" spectrum, here's one from the "I hate her" side of the "yikes" spectrum. I don't get it. Why are some people up in arms about this girl to the point where they'd say crazy stuff about her? I watched her UN speech, agreed with most of her points, laughed and cringed at her overdramatic performance, and moved on. This guy should be more like that. Just watch it and move on....

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/greta-thunberg-post-soccer-coach-fired

I liked her message a lot but I do agree with you that she was overdramatic at some points.  (Maybe that was her disability coming out a little?)
However I don't get the hate, to me it's great that she is rallying people to make some positive change.  

It's all political. Climate-change advocacy is looked at as a "left" cause, so the right is going to fight it. No need to be mean about it though. She's a kid with Asperger's. People need to lighten up.

Why are people focusing so much on her having Asberger?

...it's not uncommon... and it's not like she's an alien from another planet.

This constant focus on that.... like what has her having Asbeger to do with people having to lighten up or not?

From your post it sure sounds just like a way to disregard her or wave her away.

And Sally Field was "overdramatic" (disgusting word to use in the context of Gretas speech) when she won an Oscar - she must have Asbergers?

Well you're obviously very passionate about her so anything that isn't full-on praise of her might come off as "disregarding" her to you. And speaking of "overdramatic," spare me the rhetoric about "disgusting use of the word in context of Greta's speech." Disgusting? Oh come on. But good point on Sally Field. She's a performer, who was performing on that Oscar stage. Like Greta was a performer on the UN stage.

"I shouldn't even be here! I should be across the ocean at school! HOW DARE YOU!!!!" 

Ledbetterman10

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Sounds like how men would disregard women in like the 40s... 

"People need to lighten up. She's just a woman.. .driving a car"

icky as hell.

Oh god what are you one of these male feminists or something? I said that she's a teenager with a mental health diagnosis so people should lighten up and you take offense to THAT? And I never mentioned her being a female...at all. 

cincybearcat

Ledbetterman10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Sounds like how men would disregard women in like the 40s... 

"People need to lighten up. She's just a woman.. .driving a car"

icky as hell.

Oh god what are you one of these male feminists or something? I said that she's a teenager with a mental health diagnosis so people should lighten up and you take offense to THAT? And I never mentioned her being a female...at all. 

Memes and labels.

rgambs

Ledbetterman10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mcgruff10 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Well since that Lovely Rita parody is on the "I love her" side of the "yikes" spectrum, here's one from the "I hate her" side of the "yikes" spectrum. I don't get it. Why are some people up in arms about this girl to the point where they'd say crazy stuff about her? I watched her UN speech, agreed with most of her points, laughed and cringed at her overdramatic performance, and moved on. This guy should be more like that. Just watch it and move on....

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/greta-thunberg-post-soccer-coach-fired

I liked her message a lot but I do agree with you that she was overdramatic at some points.  (Maybe that was her disability coming out a little?)
However I don't get the hate, to me it's great that she is rallying people to make some positive change.  

It's all political. Climate-change advocacy is looked at as a "left" cause, so the right is going to fight it. No need to be mean about it though. She's a kid with Asperger's. People need to lighten up.

Why are people focusing so much on her having Asberger?

...it's not uncommon... and it's not like she's an alien from another planet.

This constant focus on that.... like what has her having Asbeger to do with people having to lighten up or not?

From your post it sure sounds just like a way to disregard her or wave her away.

And Sally Field was "overdramatic" (disgusting word to use in the context of Gretas speech) when she won an Oscar - she must have Asbergers?

Well you're obviously very passionate about her so anything that isn't full-on praise of her might come off as "disregarding" her to you. And speaking of "overdramatic," spare me the rhetoric about "disgusting use of the word in context of Greta's speech." Disgusting? Oh come on. But good point on Sally Field. She's a performer, who was performing on that Oscar stage. Like Greta was a performer on the UN stage.

"I shouldn't even be here! I should be across the ocean at school! HOW DARE YOU!!!!" 

Just because you don't get passionate doesn't mean others don't.  
If you can't see the sincerity she's brought to the table since she started this all alone, that's a failing on your part.

mcgruff10

Ledbetterman10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mcgruff10 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Well since that Lovely Rita parody is on the "I love her" side of the "yikes" spectrum, here's one from the "I hate her" side of the "yikes" spectrum. I don't get it. Why are some people up in arms about this girl to the point where they'd say crazy stuff about her? I watched her UN speech, agreed with most of her points, laughed and cringed at her overdramatic performance, and moved on. This guy should be more like that. Just watch it and move on....

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/greta-thunberg-post-soccer-coach-fired

I liked her message a lot but I do agree with you that she was overdramatic at some points.  (Maybe that was her disability coming out a little?)
However I don't get the hate, to me it's great that she is rallying people to make some positive change.  

It's all political. Climate-change advocacy is looked at as a "left" cause, so the right is going to fight it. No need to be mean about it though. She's a kid with Asperger's. People need to lighten up.

Why are people focusing so much on her having Asberger?

...it's not uncommon... and it's not like she's an alien from another planet.

This constant focus on that.... like what has her having Asbeger to do with people having to lighten up or not?

From your post it sure sounds just like a way to disregard her or wave her away.

And Sally Field was "overdramatic" (disgusting word to use in the context of Gretas speech) when she won an Oscar - she must have Asbergers?

Well you're obviously very passionate about her so anything that isn't full-on praise of her might come off as "disregarding" her to you. And speaking of "overdramatic," spare me the rhetoric about "disgusting use of the word in context of Greta's speech." Disgusting? Oh come on. But good point on Sally Field. She's a performer, who was performing on that Oscar stage. Like Greta was a performer on the UN stage.

"I shouldn't even be here! I should be across the ocean at school! HOW DARE YOU!!!!" 

Yes the lines you quoted from her speech were definitely overdramatic but like I said before it could be because of her disability (communication).

Spiritual_Chaos

Ledbetterman10 said:
 And I never mentioned her being a female...at all. 

I've never mentioned you never mentioning her being female... at all

Ledbetterman10

rgambs said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mcgruff10 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Well since that Lovely Rita parody is on the "I love her" side of the "yikes" spectrum, here's one from the "I hate her" side of the "yikes" spectrum. I don't get it. Why are some people up in arms about this girl to the point where they'd say crazy stuff about her? I watched her UN speech, agreed with most of her points, laughed and cringed at her overdramatic performance, and moved on. This guy should be more like that. Just watch it and move on....

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/greta-thunberg-post-soccer-coach-fired

I liked her message a lot but I do agree with you that she was overdramatic at some points.  (Maybe that was her disability coming out a little?)
However I don't get the hate, to me it's great that she is rallying people to make some positive change.  

It's all political. Climate-change advocacy is looked at as a "left" cause, so the right is going to fight it. No need to be mean about it though. She's a kid with Asperger's. People need to lighten up.

Why are people focusing so much on her having Asberger?

...it's not uncommon... and it's not like she's an alien from another planet.

This constant focus on that.... like what has her having Asbeger to do with people having to lighten up or not?

From your post it sure sounds just like a way to disregard her or wave her away.

And Sally Field was "overdramatic" (disgusting word to use in the context of Gretas speech) when she won an Oscar - she must have Asbergers?

Well you're obviously very passionate about her so anything that isn't full-on praise of her might come off as "disregarding" her to you. And speaking of "overdramatic," spare me the rhetoric about "disgusting use of the word in context of Greta's speech." Disgusting? Oh come on. But good point on Sally Field. She's a performer, who was performing on that Oscar stage. Like Greta was a performer on the UN stage.

"I shouldn't even be here! I should be across the ocean at school! HOW DARE YOU!!!!" 

Just because you don't get passionate doesn't mean others don't.  
If you can't see the sincerity she's brought to the table since she started this all alone, that's a failing on your part.

I didn’t say she was acting which would suggest insincerity, I said she was performing. Like a politician performs. 

Spiritual_Chaos

Ledbetterman10 said:

Oh god what are you one of these male feminists or something? 

Of course I am.

And you are one who disregards Greta with "She's a kid with Asperger's. "

Ledbetterman10

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Oh god what are you one of these male feminists or something? 

Of course I am.

And you are one who disregards Greta with "She's a kid with Asperger's. "

You keep cherry-picking parts of my quote without quoting the part that answered that. I said " she's a teenager with a mental health diagnosis so people should lighten up and you take offense to THAT?"

And of course you didn't respond to this.....

"Well you're obviously very passionate about her so anything that isn't full-on praise of her might come off as "disregarding" her to you"

....because I guess you don't want to admit that you're some 40-some-year-old that's obsessed with a 16-year-old? 

Spiritual_Chaos

It's just like when old, white man Loa Falkman petted Alexandra Dahlström condescendingly on the head when she wanted to talk about sexism in her winning speech at the 1999 "Swedish Oscars"

https://youtu.be/fc0WNOoS-Cc

https://youtu.be/BcexNP3Pl3w

"Oh it's cute, but know your place"

Replace "young woman who want to talk about something important" with "young person who happens to have Asberger who want to talk about something important"

Hi!

Meltdown99 said:

Hi! said:

Tesla model 3 Short Range is about the same price as a Jeep and probably cheaper considering savings from gas over the long run.

BS.  I live in Canada.  Add the exchange then lets talk.  I never buy new and usually stay around 20 G's. you are not getting an electric car for 20 g's.  I sure as heck am not ever buying a used electric.  To my knowledge, Tesla is not manufacturing 4 wheel drive vehicles and that's all I drive.  The point being is that gas-powered vehicles are the best bang for your buck and it's still not even close.

I’m not sure what the exchange rate has to do with it, unless you’re comparing price of, let’s say, buying the model3 in the us vs. buying the Jeep in Canada. I think a new Jeep is more expensive than the model 3 in Canada. You can get awd upgrades in all Tesla’s, I think. I personally would never buy a used Jeep, I think they are notorious for having bad transmissions, IDK.

cincybearcat

Hi! said:

Meltdown99 said:

Hi! said:

Tesla model 3 Short Range is about the same price as a Jeep and probably cheaper considering savings from gas over the long run.

BS.  I live in Canada.  Add the exchange then lets talk.  I never buy new and usually stay around 20 G's. you are not getting an electric car for 20 g's.  I sure as heck am not ever buying a used electric.  To my knowledge, Tesla is not manufacturing 4 wheel drive vehicles and that's all I drive.  The point being is that gas-powered vehicles are the best bang for your buck and it's still not even close.

I’m not sure what the exchange rate has to do with it, unless you’re comparing price of, let’s say, buying the model3 in the us vs. buying the Jeep in Canada. I think a new Jeep is more expensive than the model 3 in Canada. You can get awd upgrades in all Tesla’s, I think. I personally would never buy a used Jeep, I think they are notorious for having bad transmissions, IDK.

Have you priced Tesla’s? Those monthly payments are not cheap by any means. Wish they were.

Hi!

cincybearcat said:

Hi! said:

Meltdown99 said:

Hi! said:

Tesla model 3 Short Range is about the same price as a Jeep and probably cheaper considering savings from gas over the long run.

BS.  I live in Canada.  Add the exchange then lets talk.  I never buy new and usually stay around 20 G's. you are not getting an electric car for 20 g's.  I sure as heck am not ever buying a used electric.  To my knowledge, Tesla is not manufacturing 4 wheel drive vehicles and that's all I drive.  The point being is that gas-powered vehicles are the best bang for your buck and it's still not even close.

I’m not sure what the exchange rate has to do with it, unless you’re comparing price of, let’s say, buying the model3 in the us vs. buying the Jeep in Canada. I think a new Jeep is more expensive than the model 3 in Canada. You can get awd upgrades in all Tesla’s, I think. I personally would never buy a used Jeep, I think they are notorious for having bad transmissions, IDK.

Have you priced Tesla’s? Those monthly payments are not cheap by any means. Wish they were.

Sort of. You get the base model, Model 3 Standard range for under 40000.

cincybearcat

Part of the issue with cost is actually in the financing. I can always get 0-1.9% financing from the car mfgrs I’ve bought. Tesla does not offer that. 

Nice cars and I would want one, but you make it all wheel drive, add in the color cost, add in the self-driving (and why would you buy a Tesla without it???)...it’s not cheap.

Ledbetterman10

cincybearcat said:

Part of the issue with cost is actually in the financing. I can always get 0-1.9% financing from the car mfgrs I’ve bought. Tesla does not offer that. 

Nice cars and I would want one, but you make it all wheel drive, add in the color cost, add in the self-driving (and why would you buy a Tesla without it???)...it’s not cheap.

I'd be so scared to use a self-driving car. Not that I don't have faith in the technology, but I'd be worried about all the other drivers on the road. Wouldn't want to leave it up to my car's computer to react if someone in the lane next to me swerves into my lane. 

mcgruff10

cincybearcat said:

Part of the issue with cost is actually in the financing. I can always get 0-1.9% financing from the car mfgrs I’ve bought. Tesla does not offer that. 

Nice cars and I would want one, but you make it all wheel drive, add in the color cost, add in the self-driving (and why would you buy a Tesla without it???)...it’s not cheap.

Tesla s are ridiculously expensive.  Plus from what I read you can’t even buy them after you lease. No thanks.