Notre-Dame Cathedral Fire

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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,520
    Kat said:
    Stupid thing to speculate on now. But any chance they could restore/rebuild it as an exact replica?

    Guess the cost would be to huge these days to undertake such a thing maybe...
    I saw a tweet saying that it will be rebuilt, no details. Many cathedrals/places of worship were destroyed in the bombings in WW2 and were rebuilt. The tweeter said that spire that just went down was from the 1800s. I'll see if I can find the tweet again, hope I got those details right.

    Maybe they can do one small adjustment:


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  • LongueuilLongueuil Posts: 2,224
    At this moment, in the circumstances, it's not funny,
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,520

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • JPPJ84JPPJ84 Posts: 3,464
    Not at all :‘( 
  • LongueuilLongueuil Posts: 2,224
    OH SHIT! Look like we are watching the last moment of Note-Dame... :confounded:
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,520
    Longueuil said:
    OH SHIT! Look like we are watching the last moment of Note-Dame... :confounded:
    Yep. That is horrendous 
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  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Posts: 3,988
    Stupid thing to speculate on now. But any chance they could restore/rebuild it as an exact replica?

    Guess the cost would be to huge these days to undertake such a thing maybe...

    Apparently, an art historian made detailed 3D laser maps of the entire building. So if they choose to rebuild, there are indeed maps of every detail.

    Nonetheless, it is a terrible loss.
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,520
    edited April 2019
    General Gallet: "We can now consider that both Notre Dame towers are saved." "We now have to cool down different points, it'll take a few hours, but Notre-Dame's structure is saved."
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • JPPJ84JPPJ84 Posts: 3,464
    General Gallet: "We can now consider that both Notre Dame towers are saved." "We now have to cool down different points, it'll take a few hours, but Notre-Dame's structure is saved."
    It is a small comfort but pretty much anything wooden that remained from the Middle Ages is gone 
  • LongueuilLongueuil Posts: 2,224
    An empty shell, like an Easter egg...
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,025
    So sad.  I keep wondering about how much priceless artwork was lost.  :frowning:
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,520

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • LongueuilLongueuil Posts: 2,224
    edited April 2019
    Lot of stained-glass window I guess.
    The statues of the apostles are safe too (they were removed couple days ago)
    Emmanuel Macron said that they wil rebuild the cathedral
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  • JPPJ84JPPJ84 Posts: 3,464
    Longueuil said:
    Lot of stained-glass window I guess.
    The statues of the apostles are safe too (they were removed couple days ago)
    Emmanuel Macron said that they wil rebuild the cathedral
    Which is good!! It’s just never gonna be the same again 
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,520

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927


    /$hame about the art and architecture tho
  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 42,055
    tbergs said:
    I hope this doesn't turn out to be an arson or related to some intentional act.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/15/world/europe/notre-dame-fire.html
    or even worse, terrorists.


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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,025
    CM189191 said:


    /$hame about the art and architecture tho
    Oh, brother.  Tacky timing there, CM.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,025
    tbergs said:
    I hope this doesn't turn out to be an arson or related to some intentional act.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/15/world/europe/notre-dame-fire.html
    or even worse, terrorists.


    It wasn't.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,585
    Longueuil said:
    Lot of stained-glass window I guess.
    The statues of the apostles are safe too (they were removed couple days ago)
    Emmanuel Macron said that they wil rebuild the cathedral
    ummm shouldnt the catholic church do that?
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    mickeyrat said:
    Longueuil said:
    Lot of stained-glass window I guess.
    The statues of the apostles are safe too (they were removed couple days ago)
    Emmanuel Macron said that they wil rebuild the cathedral
    ummm shouldnt the catholic church do that?
    Depends.  Any attraction that brings 13M visitors a year to your city is a tough economic loss. 
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Plus if the Statue of Liberty was destroyed, I don’t think the US would wait for Pierre to send a replacement. 
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    Jason P said:
    Plus if the Statue of Liberty was destroyed, I don’t think the US would wait for Pierre to send a replacement. 
    Yeah, but when it was done we'd make France pay for it ;)
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    Kat said:
    Stupid thing to speculate on now. But any chance they could restore/rebuild it as an exact replica?

    Guess the cost would be to huge these days to undertake such a thing maybe...
    I saw a tweet saying that it will be rebuilt, no details. Many cathedrals/places of worship were destroyed in the bombings in WW2 and were rebuilt. The tweeter said that spire that just went down was from the 1800s. I'll see if I can find the tweet again, hope I got those details right.

    That's nice. Instead of "now we'll fit a scryscraper here"
    I don't think Paris allows skyscrapers in any case.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    edited April 2019
    brianlux said:
    So sad.  I keep wondering about how much priceless artwork was lost.  :frowning:
    Some, obviously. But I heard on the news that a lot of that stuff had actually already been removed for the renovations, and they managed to get more out the back after the fire started,so that's something, at least.
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  • njnancynjnancy Posts: 5,096
    PJ_Soul said:
    brianlux said:
    So sad.  I keep wondering about how much priceless artwork was lost.  :frowning:
    Some, obviously. But I heard on the news that a lot of that stuff had actually already been removed for the renovations, and they managed to get more out the back after the fire started,so that's something, at least.
    They had 400 firefighters in the burning cathedral saving as much as they could. I know that there are a bunch of relics and artifacts that are housed there. I love the stained glass windows and I know that at least the one was destroyed.  It's amazing that it withstood 800 years of war, neglect, vandalism but a renovation (probably) brought it down. 

    A great loss for Gothic architecture. 

    One firefighter was seriously injured. I hope he/she is okay. It is amazing that no one was killed. The foot traffic during Holy Week is huge and they close the doors at 6:45 pm Paris time. Fire started shortly after that. Amazing. I won't say miraculous, but this could have been even worse if was packed with tourists at midday. When the fire started it seemed minor and within 15 minutes there was major engulfment.  
    So if there is a silver lining, at least they were saving artifacts and not human beings. 
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,025
    PJ_Soul said:
    brianlux said:
    So sad.  I keep wondering about how much priceless artwork was lost.  :frowning:
    Some, obviously. But I heard on the news that a lot of that stuff had actually already been removed for the renovations, and they managed to get more out the back after the fire started,so that's something, at least.
    That's good to hear.
    njnancy said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    brianlux said:
    So sad.  I keep wondering about how much priceless artwork was lost.  :frowning:
    Some, obviously. But I heard on the news that a lot of that stuff had actually already been removed for the renovations, and they managed to get more out the back after the fire started,so that's something, at least.
    They had 400 firefighters in the burning cathedral saving as much as they could. I know that there are a bunch of relics and artifacts that are housed there. I love the stained glass windows and I know that at least the one was destroyed.  It's amazing that it withstood 800 years of war, neglect, vandalism but a renovation (probably) brought it down. 

    A great loss for Gothic architecture. 

    One firefighter was seriously injured. I hope he/she is okay. It is amazing that no one was killed. The foot traffic during Holy Week is huge and they close the doors at 6:45 pm Paris time. Fire started shortly after that. Amazing. I won't say miraculous, but this could have been even worse if was packed with tourists at midday. When the fire started it seemed minor and within 15 minutes there was major engulfment.  
    So if there is a silver lining, at least they were saving artifacts and not human beings. 
    Yes, a huge loss.

    I hope they can renovate.  If so, I imagine it will take decades.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    They even saved the crown of thorns, that supposedly jesus wore...
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  • JPPJ84JPPJ84 Posts: 3,464
    mickeyrat said:
    Longueuil said:
    Lot of stained-glass window I guess.
    The statues of the apostles are safe too (they were removed couple days ago)
    Emmanuel Macron said that they wil rebuild the cathedral
    ummm shouldnt the catholic church do that?
    I sure hope they help with the finances but from what I’ve heard the building is owned by the French state
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,025
    They even saved the crown of thorns, that supposedly jesus wore...
    Doubting Thomas.  :lol: 
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