The Democratic Candidates

The Juggler

Spiritual_Chaos said:

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Sloppy Joe, a slop, sloppy Joe
Well I dreamt one morning and I thought what the heck
Vice-President Joe Biden was massaging my neck
I said why are you still here, your time has passed
He said I hate Donald Trump, so it's time to kick ass

Hahaha. This is amusing.

Anyway.....HUGE lead for Biden in new CNN poll. I really like how he is separating himself from the others by going directly at Trump. Makes him seem like the presumptive nominee. And Trump taking his bait the last few days makes Biden appear more presidential than Trump....as if that is hard to do.

The 17 candidates at 2% or less should drop out by or during the summer at some point. Have it be between Biden, Pete, Kamela, Betto and Warren heading into the fall. Nice mix of candidates there. Oh, shit. And Bernie, unfortunately. 

Hey... I thought you were with me in team Bernie...

I am on team "Whoever has the best chance of beating Trump." That man is Joe Biden.

Jason P

My biggest issue with Biden is that he is old as dirt (as is Trump).  He would be 78 if he takes office and could potentially be 86 when he leaves. My money (and more importantly the money of donors) is on Beto as VP pick, especially with Texas as a potential upset.  Super white dude ticket though. 

The Juggler

mrussel1 said:

Jason P said:

I think Biden is the only logical choice.  Any far left candidate will only appeal to blue strongholds and will chase middle state votes away. 

And that's his strategy.  He is taking on Trump and going after swing voters (Big 10 union members) straight out of the gate.  He's not getting drawn into the progressive arguments.  

I LOVE kicking things off in PA. Trump is so pissed. 

Hi!

Going to be interesting to see how hard the other candidates will go after him. 

mrussel1

Hi! said:

Going to be interesting to see how hard the other candidates will go after him. 

So this is very interesting.  A few have taken a jab, namely Warren and Sanders.  More to the point, as we've seen on reposts here, it's Bernie's political assassins that have been doing the dirty work.  They post out of context information.  Fortunately, they generally preach to the converted, but we shall see if it bleeds into the 'mainstream' media. 

HughFreakingDillon

I think Biden's smart money for running mate (if he is the nom) is Harris. Although, anyone think that could actually backfire as being seen as the old white dude with the minority female "subordinate"?

mrussel1

The Juggler said:

mrussel1 said:

Jason P said:

I think Biden is the only logical choice.  Any far left candidate will only appeal to blue strongholds and will chase middle state votes away. 

And that's his strategy.  He is taking on Trump and going after swing voters (Big 10 union members) straight out of the gate.  He's not getting drawn into the progressive arguments.  

I LOVE kicking things off in PA. Trump is so pissed. 

Trump took the bait on C'ville day one, doubling down on his defense.  That's a clear win for Biden.  Also, important minority leaders like Clyburn were very complimentary of his strategy.  I don't see Clyburn saying much until we get closer to their primary in February, but he will make a difference when he makes an endorsement.  

mrussel1

HughFreakingDillon said:

I think Biden's smart money for running mate (if he is the nom) is Harris. Although, anyone think that could actually backfire as being seen as the old white dude with the minority female "subordinate"?

I think Harris is a force, she just hasn't found her footing yet.  She is someone that I want to hear more from, as the process moves forward.  She would be a good VP pick.  The old school strategy of picking a candidate based on state is gone, so being from CA is neither a positive or negative.  

F Me In The Brain

Jason P said:

My biggest issue with Biden is that he is old as dirt (as is Trump).  He would be 78 if he takes office and could potentially be 86 when he leaves. My money (and more importantly the money of donors) is on Beto as VP pick, especially with Texas as a potential upset.  Super white dude ticket though. 

I will vote for him (any reasonable non-Trump Embarrassment option) but this is it.  No frigging way we should be electing people just as likely to die during office from old age as not.

78 is the average life expectancy of males in the US, per this report from last year.

http://fortune.com/2018/02/09/us-life-expectancy-dropped-again/

Even if you dispute this report, it is hardly a stretch to think that a person's mental capacity (and everything else) can quickly go into the bucket between the ages of 78-86....JB's potential service years as POTUS.

I will still vote for him...but his VP pick should be someone who is not also a fossil...and someone who would do a good job running the country, since there is a decent chance they will be forced to if he wins and then goes tits-up while in office.

mrussel1

F Me In The Brain said:

Jason P said:

My biggest issue with Biden is that he is old as dirt (as is Trump).  He would be 78 if he takes office and could potentially be 86 when he leaves. My money (and more importantly the money of donors) is on Beto as VP pick, especially with Texas as a potential upset.  Super white dude ticket though. 

I will vote for him (any reasonable non-Trump Embarrassment option) but this is it.  No frigging way we should be electing people just as likely to die during office from old age as not.

78 is the average life expectancy of males in the US, per this report from last year.

http://fortune.com/2018/02/09/us-life-expectancy-dropped-again/

Even if you dispute this report, it is hardly a stretch to think that a person's mental capacity (and everything else) can quickly go into the bucket between the ages of 78-86....JB's potential service years as POTUS.

I will still vote for him...but his VP pick should be someone who is not also a fossil...and someone who would do a good job running the country, since there is a decent chance they will be forced to if he wins and then goes tits-up while in office.

Well I don't see him choosing Bernie as VP, were he the nominee, so you should be okay there.  

F Me In The Brain

mrussel1 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Jason P said:

My biggest issue with Biden is that he is old as dirt (as is Trump).  He would be 78 if he takes office and could potentially be 86 when he leaves. My money (and more importantly the money of donors) is on Beto as VP pick, especially with Texas as a potential upset.  Super white dude ticket though. 

I will vote for him (any reasonable non-Trump Embarrassment option) but this is it.  No frigging way we should be electing people just as likely to die during office from old age as not.

78 is the average life expectancy of males in the US, per this report from last year.

http://fortune.com/2018/02/09/us-life-expectancy-dropped-again/

Even if you dispute this report, it is hardly a stretch to think that a person's mental capacity (and everything else) can quickly go into the bucket between the ages of 78-86....JB's potential service years as POTUS.

I will still vote for him...but his VP pick should be someone who is not also a fossil...and someone who would do a good job running the country, since there is a decent chance they will be forced to if he wins and then goes tits-up while in office.

Well I don't see him choosing Bernie as VP, were he the nominee, so you should be okay there.  

I don't think either of them should be options but will take it if that is what it is.  I think he is a good person and he would do his best to represent us well in his last few years. 

HughFreakingDillon

mrussel1 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Jason P said:

My biggest issue with Biden is that he is old as dirt (as is Trump).  He would be 78 if he takes office and could potentially be 86 when he leaves. My money (and more importantly the money of donors) is on Beto as VP pick, especially with Texas as a potential upset.  Super white dude ticket though. 

I will vote for him (any reasonable non-Trump Embarrassment option) but this is it.  No frigging way we should be electing people just as likely to die during office from old age as not.

78 is the average life expectancy of males in the US, per this report from last year.

http://fortune.com/2018/02/09/us-life-expectancy-dropped-again/

Even if you dispute this report, it is hardly a stretch to think that a person's mental capacity (and everything else) can quickly go into the bucket between the ages of 78-86....JB's potential service years as POTUS.

I will still vote for him...but his VP pick should be someone who is not also a fossil...and someone who would do a good job running the country, since there is a decent chance they will be forced to if he wins and then goes tits-up while in office.

Well I don't see him choosing Bernie as VP, were he the nominee, so you should be okay there.  

not a chance. that would be the whitest ticket in modern times. 

Spiritual_Chaos

The Juggler said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Sloppy Joe, a slop, sloppy Joe
Well I dreamt one morning and I thought what the heck
Vice-President Joe Biden was massaging my neck
I said why are you still here, your time has passed
He said I hate Donald Trump, so it's time to kick ass

Hahaha. This is amusing.

Anyway.....HUGE lead for Biden in new CNN poll. I really like how he is separating himself from the others by going directly at Trump. Makes him seem like the presumptive nominee. And Trump taking his bait the last few days makes Biden appear more presidential than Trump....as if that is hard to do.

The 17 candidates at 2% or less should drop out by or during the summer at some point. Have it be between Biden, Pete, Kamela, Betto and Warren heading into the fall. Nice mix of candidates there. Oh, shit. And Bernie, unfortunately. 

Hey... I thought you were with me in team Bernie...

I am on team "Whoever has the best chance of beating Trump." That man is Joe Biden.

I'm a bit scared that people are just making a truth out of "Joe Biden is the one to beat Trump" and keep on repeating it, but it will backfire.

Spiritual_Chaos

Plus it's a boring choice. 

mrussel1

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Plus it's a boring choice. 

Well 2016 until today hasn't been boring, so careful what you wish for. 

HughFreakingDillon

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Plus it's a boring choice. 

Well 2016 until today hasn't been boring, so careful what you wish for. 

excellent point. boring is what I can't wait to get back to. 

Spiritual_Chaos

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Plus it's a boring choice. 

Well 2016 until today hasn't been boring, so careful what you wish for. 

Touché

Spiritual_Chaos

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Spiritual_Chaos

Charlamagne tha God talks up Pete on CNN again and shits a bit on Biden:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm-Pw_HRsDM

cincybearcat

mrussel1 said:

Hi! said:

Going to be interesting to see how hard the other candidates will go after him. 

So this is very interesting.  A few have taken a jab, namely Warren and Sanders.  More to the point, as we've seen on reposts here, it's Bernie's political assassins that have been doing the dirty work.  They post out of context information.  Fortunately, they generally preach to the converted, but we shall see if it bleeds into the 'mainstream' media. 

Hmmm I wonder who Bernie supporters remind me of.....