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I haven't had the time to really look into her mentions of breaking up the big tech tech companies. When I do I can actually speak to the subject.mrussel1 said:
I agree she's very smart. That's why some of these arguments are disappointing to me. I feel like she is targeting certain companies as a populist position rather a realistic one.dignin said:
It's always the same two who are the victims here. Best to ignore and steer clear of the drama.oftenreading said:
Nope. It’s a factual remark, like I just said. Doesn’t matter what you think of it.cincybearcat said:
Oh c’mon. You went back to the original argument instead of dealing with your snide remark. You know you were making a snide remark, own it. Man - lots of people continue to do this sort of thing and never own it.oftenreading said:
Nope, you’re incorrect. Mrussell was not freaking out, he was providing information. Maybe you didn’t like that information, but that doesn’t mean he was freaking out, and it also doesn’t mean that people that point that out are condescending to you.my2hands said:
Last sentence is exhibit Aoftenreading said:
Where did you get that he’s freaking out? No freaking is apparent to me. Just information, which maybe you don’t like.my2hands said:
Dude why are you freaking out? Did i say being a moderate was a bad thing? Joe Biden is a moderate and has never been considered a liberal, not in the 80's, 90's, or 2000's... that's not good, thats not bad, thats just who he is... you support the guy because he's a fucking moderate and you want to lecture me? you act like you just learned who Joe Biden is? Lolmrussel1 said:
See this is a perfect example of the lack of historical perspective when evaluating people's positions. The Crime Bill was not considered a 'conservative/liberal' demarcation point when it came to pass. The cities were ravaged by crime and the leaders in the black community, including the majority of the Congressional Black Caucus, supported the bill. You can't judge their vote by what we know today, 30 friggin' years later, with the benefit of hindsight. And don't forget the Violence Against Women Act was a subset. I guess Biden should have voted against that?my2hands said:
Ahhhhhh, not really.... Joe is a moderate.... nobody considers him a liberal, and they shouldn't... he is s solid moderare dem.... the iraq war vote being near the top of the list and the crime bill, etc......mrussel1 said:
Haha, that's a good joke, and seems to be true this year. Although, it seems to be the progressives. Biden would be considered a liberal I think, under today's nomenclature.Spiritual_Chaos said:
If I got a nickel every time I did that to myself.mrussel1 said:BTW - your second paragraph is way overstated and blows up what could have been a pretty good argument.
Anyways, the only difference between a liberal and a cannibal is that cannibals don't eat their friends and family. I've heard.
I would not consider Joe to be a liberal or progressive, which i feel are the same thing
Oh and FYI, Sanders voted for it too. I guess he's a moderate.
Lighten up
Some people on here always have to throw a jab or try to talk slick, like this unnecessary condescending remark.
On topic, Warren is one of the smartest people to ever run for President (contrary to some opinions here). The US would be extremely fortunate to have her as their leader at this time.
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Ain’t that the truth, and wise advice that you keep giving me. One of these days I’ll take itdignin said:
It's always the same two who are the victims here. Best to ignore and steer clear of the drama.oftenreading said:
Nope. It’s a factual remark, like I just said. Doesn’t matter what you think of it.cincybearcat said:
Oh c’mon. You went back to the original argument instead of dealing with your snide remark. You know you were making a snide remark, own it. Man - lots of people continue to do this sort of thing and never own it.oftenreading said:
Nope, you’re incorrect. Mrussell was not freaking out, he was providing information. Maybe you didn’t like that information, but that doesn’t mean he was freaking out, and it also doesn’t mean that people that point that out are condescending to you.my2hands said:
Last sentence is exhibit Aoftenreading said:
Where did you get that he’s freaking out? No freaking is apparent to me. Just information, which maybe you don’t like.my2hands said:
Dude why are you freaking out? Did i say being a moderate was a bad thing? Joe Biden is a moderate and has never been considered a liberal, not in the 80's, 90's, or 2000's... that's not good, thats not bad, thats just who he is... you support the guy because he's a fucking moderate and you want to lecture me? you act like you just learned who Joe Biden is? Lolmrussel1 said:
See this is a perfect example of the lack of historical perspective when evaluating people's positions. The Crime Bill was not considered a 'conservative/liberal' demarcation point when it came to pass. The cities were ravaged by crime and the leaders in the black community, including the majority of the Congressional Black Caucus, supported the bill. You can't judge their vote by what we know today, 30 friggin' years later, with the benefit of hindsight. And don't forget the Violence Against Women Act was a subset. I guess Biden should have voted against that?my2hands said:
Ahhhhhh, not really.... Joe is a moderate.... nobody considers him a liberal, and they shouldn't... he is s solid moderare dem.... the iraq war vote being near the top of the list and the crime bill, etc......mrussel1 said:
Haha, that's a good joke, and seems to be true this year. Although, it seems to be the progressives. Biden would be considered a liberal I think, under today's nomenclature.Spiritual_Chaos said:
If I got a nickel every time I did that to myself.mrussel1 said:BTW - your second paragraph is way overstated and blows up what could have been a pretty good argument.
Anyways, the only difference between a liberal and a cannibal is that cannibals don't eat their friends and family. I've heard.
I would not consider Joe to be a liberal or progressive, which i feel are the same thing
Oh and FYI, Sanders voted for it too. I guess he's a moderate.
Lighten up
Some people on here always have to throw a jab or try to talk slick, like this unnecessary condescending remark.
On topic, Warren is one of the smartest people to ever run for president.
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I wanna be a victim :("Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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Have you considered BDSM?Spiritual_Chaos said:I wanna be a victim :(my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
"Joe Bidens hugest risk is that he's Jeb Bush"
- Chris Christie"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Anyone have Washington Post - is this true? Haha.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
That graphic isn't online. I don't get the print version.Spiritual_Chaos said:Anyone have Washington Post - is this true? Haha.
I guess it would be misleading for Democrats who solely rely on pictures and not numbers. The fix is in.
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Spiritual_Chaos said:"Joe Bidens hugest risk is that he's Jeb Bush"
- Chris ChristieChris Christie is everything that is bad about a politician rolled up into one big package. He gave the shaft to his staff and let them go to jail for his crime and he lets Trump treat him like shit will continuing to be his cheerleader.
Trump is the most afraid of running against Biden - there will be many attacks against him as they fear him for the general so they want to kill him in the primary process.
But, as a NJ resident, I can't express how much disdain I have for Christie.0 -
I don’t think I’ve ever heard a good word spoken about Christie.njnancy said:Spiritual_Chaos said:"Joe Bidens hugest risk is that he's Jeb Bush"
- Chris ChristieChris Christie is everything that is bad about a politician rolled up into one big package. He gave the shaft to his staff and let them go to jail for his crime and he lets Trump treat him like shit will continuing to be his cheerleader.
Trump is the most afraid of running against Biden - there will be many attacks against him as they fear him for the general so they want to kill him in the primary process.
But, as a NJ resident, I can't express how much disdain I have for Christie.
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Heres some:oftenreading said:
I don’t think I’ve ever heard a good word spoken about Christie.njnancy said:Spiritual_Chaos said:"Joe Bidens hugest risk is that he's Jeb Bush"
- Chris ChristieChris Christie is everything that is bad about a politician rolled up into one big package. He gave the shaft to his staff and let them go to jail for his crime and he lets Trump treat him like shit will continuing to be his cheerleader.
Trump is the most afraid of running against Biden - there will be many attacks against him as they fear him for the general so they want to kill him in the primary process.
But, as a NJ resident, I can't express how much disdain I have for Christie.
As a political pundit on ABC/CNN/MSNBC etc I think he comes with grounded and sane arguments and have the ability to see and argue for both sides of things. He doesn't come off as a party-first Trump stooge with the luying stupidity-spin of the ordinary Trump people and politicians like Jim Jordan, Lindsey Graham etc.
I would even say he gives me perspective on things. I don't want to smash in the TV when he talks on the news shows. Even though he has a mob-sleezy aura.
As a pundit. Not defending whatever he did to NJ as governor or if he's a trashy person in general.Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Fuck Chris Christie and his redemption tour. He’s a fucking weasle.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Heres some:oftenreading said:
I don’t think I’ve ever heard a good word spoken about Christie.njnancy said:Spiritual_Chaos said:"Joe Bidens hugest risk is that he's Jeb Bush"
- Chris ChristieChris Christie is everything that is bad about a politician rolled up into one big package. He gave the shaft to his staff and let them go to jail for his crime and he lets Trump treat him like shit will continuing to be his cheerleader.
Trump is the most afraid of running against Biden - there will be many attacks against him as they fear him for the general so they want to kill him in the primary process.
But, as a NJ resident, I can't express how much disdain I have for Christie.
As a political pundit on ABC/CNN/MSNBC etc I think he comes with grounded and sane arguments and have the ability to see and argue for both sides of things. He doesn't come off as a party-first Trump stooge with the luying stupidity-spin of the ordinary Trump people and politicians like Jim Jordan, Lindsey Graham etc.
I would even say he gives me perspective on things. I don't want to smash in the TV when he talks on the news shows. Even though he has a mob-sleezy aura.
As a pundit. Not defending whatever he did to NJ as governor or if he's a trashy person in general.
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That's a good way of putting it. There will be lots of those in the next ten years.Halifax2TheMax said:
Fuck Chris Christie and his redemption tour. He’s a fucking weasle.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Heres some:oftenreading said:
I don’t think I’ve ever heard a good word spoken about Christie.njnancy said:Spiritual_Chaos said:"Joe Bidens hugest risk is that he's Jeb Bush"
- Chris ChristieChris Christie is everything that is bad about a politician rolled up into one big package. He gave the shaft to his staff and let them go to jail for his crime and he lets Trump treat him like shit will continuing to be his cheerleader.
Trump is the most afraid of running against Biden - there will be many attacks against him as they fear him for the general so they want to kill him in the primary process.
But, as a NJ resident, I can't express how much disdain I have for Christie.
As a political pundit on ABC/CNN/MSNBC etc I think he comes with grounded and sane arguments and have the ability to see and argue for both sides of things. He doesn't come off as a party-first Trump stooge with the luying stupidity-spin of the ordinary Trump people and politicians like Jim Jordan, Lindsey Graham etc.
I would even say he gives me perspective on things. I don't want to smash in the TV when he talks on the news shows. Even though he has a mob-sleezy aura.
As a pundit. Not defending whatever he did to NJ as governor or if he's a trashy person in general.
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Just goes to prove that there really is someone for everybody.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Heres some:oftenreading said:
I don’t think I’ve ever heard a good word spoken about Christie.njnancy said:Spiritual_Chaos said:"Joe Bidens hugest risk is that he's Jeb Bush"
- Chris ChristieChris Christie is everything that is bad about a politician rolled up into one big package. He gave the shaft to his staff and let them go to jail for his crime and he lets Trump treat him like shit will continuing to be his cheerleader.
Trump is the most afraid of running against Biden - there will be many attacks against him as they fear him for the general so they want to kill him in the primary process.
But, as a NJ resident, I can't express how much disdain I have for Christie.
As a political pundit on ABC/CNN/MSNBC etc I think he comes with grounded and sane arguments and have the ability to see and argue for both sides of things. He doesn't come off as a party-first Trump stooge with the luying stupidity-spin of the ordinary Trump people and politicians like Jim Jordan, Lindsey Graham etc.
I would even say he gives me perspective on things. I don't want to smash in the TV when he talks on the news shows. Even though he has a mob-sleezy aura.
As a pundit. Not defending whatever he did to NJ as governor or if he's a trashy person in general.
I haven’t ever watched him acting as a pundit as you describe. I don’t imagine I’d trust anything he says, given his history. He might be correct but I’m not going to put any stake in what he says.
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We have a term for people like him in NJ which I'm sure I can't post.Halifax2TheMax said:
Fuck Chris Christie and his redemption tour. He’s a fucking weasle.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Heres some:oftenreading said:
I don’t think I’ve ever heard a good word spoken about Christie.njnancy said:Spiritual_Chaos said:"Joe Bidens hugest risk is that he's Jeb Bush"
- Chris ChristieChris Christie is everything that is bad about a politician rolled up into one big package. He gave the shaft to his staff and let them go to jail for his crime and he lets Trump treat him like shit will continuing to be his cheerleader.
Trump is the most afraid of running against Biden - there will be many attacks against him as they fear him for the general so they want to kill him in the primary process.
But, as a NJ resident, I can't express how much disdain I have for Christie.
As a political pundit on ABC/CNN/MSNBC etc I think he comes with grounded and sane arguments and have the ability to see and argue for both sides of things. He doesn't come off as a party-first Trump stooge with the luying stupidity-spin of the ordinary Trump people and politicians like Jim Jordan, Lindsey Graham etc.
I would even say he gives me perspective on things. I don't want to smash in the TV when he talks on the news shows. Even though he has a mob-sleezy aura.
As a pundit. Not defending whatever he did to NJ as governor or if he's a trashy person in general.
It would be quicker but..he is slippery, rude, arrogant, snide, disrespectful, self aggrandizing, condescending, greedy, callous, corrupt and a liar. He can sound reasonable when the cameras are rolling, that's his gig, but his words are meaningless. He yells at and demeans reporters and anyone who happens to annoy him when he's done being a crappy pundit.
Patty, my sister, died during Bridgegate and it was pure luck that my Mom and I were sleeping at the hospice for a couple days because if she had died alone due to f*cken traffic, the grief and guilt would have been unimaginable. Mom had just lost her second child and holding her hand at the moment she died helped because it haunted her that my brother died alone. But Christie's actions affected us in other ways...
Her husband, especially, was extremely delayed getting to the hospice when we knew she was slipping away. All highways converge where we live so there was no getting around it. My Mom and I were alone with Patty for a very long time afterwards, with an increasingly antsy staff, but we made them leave her in her bed in her room until he got there. He was a wreck not being able to get to her in time, knowing she died while he sat in his car. And we had to deal with staff when we just wanted to grieve.
So not only does Christie suck as a human being, but I have personal reasons to think he is scum.
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Here's something good about him:
He really fills out a speedo
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Pics or it didn’t happen.F Me In The Brain said:Here's something good about him:
He really fills out a speedo
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If it was part of that meme of him in the beach chair appearing in random places (my favorite was as a Parade balloon). I could live with adding him in a speedo to that meme.oftenreading said:
Pics or it didn’t happen.F Me In The Brain said:Here's something good about him:
He really fills out a speedo
No, please; let’s not make it happen
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Nobody wants to see that
It was a weak joke, I will be fine with admitting ....
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It was a good joke.F Me In The Brain said:Nobody wants to see that
It was a weak joke, I will be fine with admitting ....
I'm not busy photoshopping that blowhard's body though. Uck.
Thanks for the levity.
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