The Democratic Candidates

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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,975
    Chris Matthews makes it tingle all over me:

    https://youtu.be/WOpRyJ5Obh0

    How so?
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,975
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    After Gillibrand slammed the NRA during her town hall, the NRA posted a letter she wrote to them in 2008 where she talks about how she appreciates the work the NRA does: https://shared.nrapvf.org/sharedmedia/1510810/09182008-ny-gillibrandletter.pdf
    soo she was for it before she was against it.
    Yeah, because now she's a running for the democratic nomination and thus she has to hate the NRA. 
    That's not good.  In 2008, one should have been well aware of the NRA being nothing but a gun lobby.  I'm a big proponent of what's called 'historical perspective', which means assessing people against the norms of the time.  For example, Abe Lincoln probably wasn't for desegregating schools.  JFK probably didn't support gay marriage.  That doesn't make them bigots.  Those were far off concepts at the time.  One should have been critical of the NRA in 2008.  

    Dems are screwed because trump's entire platform is the exact opposite of what he believed in the majority of his adult life. 

    Yet Rs dont care. Not in the slightest. They vote for him with more joy than even voting for Reagan.

    A dem shifts on one issue? It's the end of her campaign. 

    Although she did walk right into this. She could have prefaced her comment. 


  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,505
    Chris Matthews makes it tingle all over me:

    https://youtu.be/WOpRyJ5Obh0

    How so?
    He's got a good head on his shoulders. He's funny. He comes off to me - as very, very sound. 

    My favorite moment with him that I've captured:



    I love him. I wish to someday catch a tambourine from him.


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    After Gillibrand slammed the NRA during her town hall, the NRA posted a letter she wrote to them in 2008 where she talks about how she appreciates the work the NRA does: https://shared.nrapvf.org/sharedmedia/1510810/09182008-ny-gillibrandletter.pdf
    soo she was for it before she was against it.
    Yeah, because now she's a running for the democratic nomination and thus she has to hate the NRA. 
    That's not good.  In 2008, one should have been well aware of the NRA being nothing but a gun lobby.  I'm a big proponent of what's called 'historical perspective', which means assessing people against the norms of the time.  For example, Abe Lincoln probably wasn't for desegregating schools.  JFK probably didn't support gay marriage.  That doesn't make them bigots.  Those were far off concepts at the time.  One should have been critical of the NRA in 2008.  

    Dems are screwed because trump's entire platform is the exact opposite of what he believed in the majority of his adult life. 

    Yet Rs dont care. Not in the slightest. They vote for him with more joy than even voting for Reagan.

    A dem shifts on one issue? It's the end of her campaign. 

    Although she did walk right into this. She could have prefaced her comment. 


    I don't know if that makes them screwed, although it's obvious that Trump has no set of principles or a moral center. 
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,715
    Chris Matthews makes it tingle all over me:

    https://youtu.be/WOpRyJ5Obh0

    How so?
    He's got a good head on his shoulders. He's funny. He comes off to me - as very, very sound. 

    My favorite moment with him that I've captured:



    I love him. I wish to someday catch a tambourine from him.


    :lol: I hope that happens for you man.
    I like him a lot too. He's no Elizabeth Warren, but he's pretty great.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,505
    edited June 2019
    PJ_Soul said:
    Chris Matthews makes it tingle all over me:

    https://youtu.be/WOpRyJ5Obh0

    How so?
    He's got a good head on his shoulders. He's funny. He comes off to me - as very, very sound. 

    My favorite moment with him that I've captured:



    I love him. I wish to someday catch a tambourine from him.


    :lol: I hope that happens for you man.
    I like him a lot too. He's no Elizabeth Warren, but he's pretty great.
    If we talk candidates and not news shows hosts -- then Queen Elisabeth is my favorite, in a lot of ways. 

    But I fear she would have a hard time with mocking-Trump in a debate - with her being very "correct" and a bit "stiff" and not really has that Aaron Sorkin-written flair.

    She also has a voice that you wouldn't be able to hear if you sit next to her in a noisy pub. I don't think she will be as able to dominate a room or a debate stage. 

    But let's see what happens in June in the first debate.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,715
    PJ_Soul said:
    Chris Matthews makes it tingle all over me:

    https://youtu.be/WOpRyJ5Obh0

    How so?
    He's got a good head on his shoulders. He's funny. He comes off to me - as very, very sound. 

    My favorite moment with him that I've captured:



    I love him. I wish to someday catch a tambourine from him.


    :lol: I hope that happens for you man.
    I like him a lot too. He's no Elizabeth Warren, but he's pretty great.
    If we talk candidates and not news shows hosts -- then Queen Elisabeth is my favorite, in a lot of ways. 

    But I fear she would have a hard time with mocking-Trump in a debate - with her being very "correct" and a bit "stiff" and not really has that Aaron Sorkin-written flair.

    She also has a voice that you wouldn't be able to hear if you sit next to her in a noisy pub. I don't think she will be as able to dominate a room or a debate stage. 

    But let's see what happens in June in the first debate.
    Oh, I thought you meant Pete Buttigieg.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,505
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Chris Matthews makes it tingle all over me:

    https://youtu.be/WOpRyJ5Obh0

    How so?
    He's got a good head on his shoulders. He's funny. He comes off to me - as very, very sound. 

    My favorite moment with him that I've captured:



    I love him. I wish to someday catch a tambourine from him.


    :lol: I hope that happens for you man.
    I like him a lot too. He's no Elizabeth Warren, but he's pretty great.
    If we talk candidates and not news shows hosts -- then Queen Elisabeth is my favorite, in a lot of ways. 

    But I fear she would have a hard time with mocking-Trump in a debate - with her being very "correct" and a bit "stiff" and not really has that Aaron Sorkin-written flair.

    She also has a voice that you wouldn't be able to hear if you sit next to her in a noisy pub. I don't think she will be as able to dominate a room or a debate stage. 

    But let's see what happens in June in the first debate.
    Oh, I thought you meant Pete Buttigieg.
    He can throw me a tambourine too. But I wouldn't cherish it like Chris Matthews.


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,975
    PJ_Soul said:
    Chris Matthews makes it tingle all over me:

    https://youtu.be/WOpRyJ5Obh0

    How so?
    He's got a good head on his shoulders. He's funny. He comes off to me - as very, very sound. 

    My favorite moment with him that I've captured:



    I love him. I wish to someday catch a tambourine from him.


    :lol: I hope that happens for you man.
    I like him a lot too. He's no Elizabeth Warren, but he's pretty great.
    If we talk candidates and not news shows hosts -- then Queen Elisabeth is my favorite, in a lot of ways. 

    But I fear she would have a hard time with mocking-Trump in a debate - with her being very "correct" and a bit "stiff" and not really has that Aaron Sorkin-written flair.

    She also has a voice that you wouldn't be able to hear if you sit next to her in a noisy pub. I don't think she will be as able to dominate a room or a debate stage. 

    But let's see what happens in June in the first debate.


    I'd love to love Warren. But when Trump mocked her DNA tests she had no comeback. Trump made her look foolish. A candidate needs to  br able to go toe to toe with trump

    Also she does not understand how to package her ideas to Americans. I'd love more healthcare protections but I am not sure I am ready for forcing everyone off of their private insurance and onto medicare. She cant sell me and most people might call me the most liberal person they know. 

    Warren (and Sanders) do not understand what sells in this country, especially in critical swing states.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,505
    edited June 2019
    PJ_Soul said:
    Chris Matthews makes it tingle all over me:

    https://youtu.be/WOpRyJ5Obh0

    How so?
    He's got a good head on his shoulders. He's funny. He comes off to me - as very, very sound. 

    My favorite moment with him that I've captured:



    I love him. I wish to someday catch a tambourine from him.


    :lol: I hope that happens for you man.
    I like him a lot too. He's no Elizabeth Warren, but he's pretty great.
    If we talk candidates and not news shows hosts -- then Queen Elisabeth is my favorite, in a lot of ways. 

    But I fear she would have a hard time with mocking-Trump in a debate - with her being very "correct" and a bit "stiff" and not really has that Aaron Sorkin-written flair.

    She also has a voice that you wouldn't be able to hear if you sit next to her in a noisy pub. I don't think she will be as able to dominate a room or a debate stage. 

    But let's see what happens in June in the first debate.


    I'd love to love Warren. But when Trump mocked her DNA tests she had no comeback. Trump made her look foolish. A candidate needs to  br able to go toe to toe with trump

    Also she does not understand how to package her ideas to Americans. I'd love more healthcare protections but I am not sure I am ready for forcing everyone off of their private insurance and onto medicare. She cant sell me and most people might call me the most liberal person they know. 

    Warren (and Sanders) do not understand what sells in this country, especially in critical swing states.
    Like Bill Maher said, she should have gone all in on calling him "Brokaphontas" (as an example)
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • dignin
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    dignin said:
    To be fair,  it's only 1 point increase and within the MOE. What's becoming increasingly clear is Warren and Sanders are exchanging support.  I wonder if the far left wing can break 30 to 35% of the party. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,505
    edited June 2019
    John Waters talks about Elisabeths Warrens problem with being boring on Bill Mahers latest episode. At like 5 minutes:

    https://youtu.be/JPz8CtSv9uM
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    To be fair,  it's only 1 point increase and within the MOE. What's becoming increasingly clear is Warren and Sanders are exchanging support.  I wonder if the far left wing can break 30 to 35% of the party. 
    She has momentum. 1 point since the last poll but on the upwards trajectory for awhile now when lots of pundits had written her off.

    My guess is Biden has no place to go but down, that's why I suspect he has been staying clear of certain events. Falling into the front runner trap and playing it safe. Warren has no place to go but up.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    John Waters talks about Elisabeths Warrens problem with being boring on Bill Mahers latest episode. At like 5 minutes:

    https://youtu.be/JPz8CtSv9uM
    She is an extremely interesting person. And he said she's not funny.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,505
    edited June 2019
    Biden will be smoked after he slurs his way in old-man-slow-motion through the first debate. 

    This is the age of twitter soundbytes and podcasts on 1.5 speed. No one has the time for "the eagles soar over our beautiful land, the majestic vistas and people, ordinary people, americans with God in their hearts, helping each other rake their leaves. What happened with helping thy neighbour rake leaves?"

    Sanders and Warren comes with the passion. Buddaedgeedge with that JFK-quality. Kamala with a no-BS attitude.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,505
    dignin said:
    John Waters talks about Elisabeths Warrens problem with being boring on Bill Mahers latest episode. At like 5 minutes:

    https://youtu.be/JPz8CtSv9uM
    She is an extremely interesting person. And he said she's not funny.
    You mean my "boring" doesn't equal "not funny". Or what did I do wrong?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Sleepy Joe gonna rope-a-dope yo.
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  • mrussel1
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    Biden will be smoked after he slurs his way in old-man-slow-motion through the first debate. 

    This is the age of twitter soundbytes and podcasts on 1.5 speed. No one has the time for "the eagles soar over our beautiful land, the majestic vistas and people, ordinary people, americans with God in their hearts, helping each other rake their leaves. What happened with helping thy neighbour rake leaves?"

    Sanders and Warren comes with the passion. Buddaedgeedge with that JFK-quality. Kamala with a no-BS attitude.
    Clueless
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,505
    edited June 2019
    Biden will be this elections Jeb Bush.

    Mark my words.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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