Why are we talking about the native American thing again? Did I miss something?
my absence.
I just had to reply... didnt see what I felt to be a pertinent response. then Meltdown backed that up with the article from last October.
What she said is relevant. It goes to credibility. What kind of fraud needs to lie about their heritage...is she ashamed of being white? If she is, she should say so...
If she is native american...then prove it through what native Americans consider an acceptable protocol...
Does not matter, she will not get the nod...Biden will still win it...
I dont think the Ds can really afford to lose any of those voices in the Senate. Too strong in their areas of expertise
Excellent points. Who do you think gets the nod? Or is it possible that someone comes late to the party and wins the nomination?
Why are we talking about the native American thing again? Did I miss something?
my absence.
I just had to reply... didnt see what I felt to be a pertinent response. then Meltdown backed that up with the article from last October.
What she said is relevant. It goes to credibility. What kind of fraud needs to lie about their heritage...is she ashamed of being white? If she is, she should say so...
If she is native american...then prove it through what native Americans consider an acceptable protocol...
Does not matter, she will not get the nod...Biden will still win it...
Who has said she lied?
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Why are we talking about the native American thing again? Did I miss something?
my absence.
I just had to reply... didnt see what I felt to be a pertinent response. then Meltdown backed that up with the article from last October.
What she said is relevant. It goes to credibility. What kind of fraud needs to lie about their heritage...is she ashamed of being white? If she is, she should say so...
If she is native american...then prove it through what native Americans consider an acceptable protocol...
Does not matter, she will not get the nod...Biden will still win it...
Who has said she lied?
Pretty obvious to me. Native Americans have a protocol that determines if you are Native America...why would she not follow their protocol?
My brother in law is Metis (if you do not know what Metis is...google it)...he had to undergo their protocol for verification...not a dumb DNA test that does not prove much as far as Native Americans are concerned.
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Why are we talking about the native American thing again? Did I miss something?
my absence.
I just had to reply... didnt see what I felt to be a pertinent response. then Meltdown backed that up with the article from last October.
What she said is relevant. It goes to credibility. What kind of fraud needs to lie about their heritage...is she ashamed of being white? If she is, she should say so...
If she is native american...then prove it through what native Americans consider an acceptable protocol...
Does not matter, she will not get the nod...Biden will still win it...
Who has said she lied?
Pretty obvious to me. Native Americans have a protocol that determines if you are Native America...why would she not follow their protocol?
My brother in law is Metis (if you do not know what Metis is...google it)...he had to undergo their protocol for verification...not a dumb DNA test that does not prove much as far as Native Americans are concerned.
Why are we talking about the native American thing again? Did I miss something?
my absence.
I just had to reply... didnt see what I felt to be a pertinent response. then Meltdown backed that up with the article from last October.
What she said is relevant. It goes to credibility. What kind of fraud needs to lie about their heritage...is she ashamed of being white? If she is, she should say so...
If she is native american...then prove it through what native Americans consider an acceptable protocol...
Does not matter, she will not get the nod...Biden will still win it...
Who has said she lied?
Pretty obvious to me. Native Americans have a protocol that determines if you are Native America...why would she not follow their protocol?
My brother in law is Metis (if you do not know what Metis is...google it)...he had to undergo their protocol for verification...not a dumb DNA test that does not prove much as far as Native Americans are concerned.
Who gives a fuck?
Clearly not you, but you can't pretend that didn't damage her. And she compounded it with the DNA test.
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Why are we talking about the native American thing again? Did I miss something?
my absence.
I just had to reply... didnt see what I felt to be a pertinent response. then Meltdown backed that up with the article from last October.
What she said is relevant. It goes to credibility. What kind of fraud needs to lie about their heritage...is she ashamed of being white? If she is, she should say so...
If she is native american...then prove it through what native Americans consider an acceptable protocol...
Does not matter, she will not get the nod...Biden will still win it...
Who has said she lied?
Pretty obvious to me. Native Americans have a protocol that determines if you are Native America...why would she not follow their protocol?
My brother in law is Metis (if you do not know what Metis is...google it)...he had to undergo their protocol for verification...not a dumb DNA test that does not prove much as far as Native Americans are concerned.
Who gives a fuck?
Clearly not you, but you can't pretend that didn't damage her. And she compounded it with the DNA test.
That was stupid. It was also 8 months ago. Ever since, she's been rising in the polls and had a good debate on Wednesday.
I guess I'm confused why this is a topic of conversation today.
Well, we know most Americans don't give a fuck...it still goes to credibility? and the fact that she was trying to exploit Native Americans culture to her advantage...the problem...I never see Native American issues discussed...are Americans embarrassed for what happened to the original owners of that piece of land. Here in Canada, 1st nation issues are discussed extensively...
Well, we know most Americans don't give a fuck...it still goes to credibility? and the fact that she was trying to exploit Native Americans culture to her advantage...the problem...I never see Native American issues discussed...are Americans embarrassed for what happened to the original owners of that piece of land. Here in Canada, 1st nation issues are discussed extensively...
To me it sounds like you are fabricating narratives.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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Well, we know most Americans don't give a fuck...it still goes to credibility? and the fact that she was trying to exploit Native Americans culture to her advantage...the problem...I never see Native American issues discussed...are Americans embarrassed for what happened to the original owners of that piece of land. Here in Canada, 1st nation issues are discussed extensively...
oh thats a whole lotta fucking over to cop to......
2 books. Peoples History .. by Zinn and Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee by Dee Brown
Fucking travesty what white europeans (that includes us...) have done throughout history.....
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Why are we talking about the native American thing again? Did I miss something?
my absence.
I just had to reply... didnt see what I felt to be a pertinent response. then Meltdown backed that up with the article from last October.
What she said is relevant. It goes to credibility. What kind of fraud needs to lie about their heritage...is she ashamed of being white? If she is, she should say so...
If she is native american...then prove it through what native Americans consider an acceptable protocol...
Does not matter, she will not get the nod...Biden will still win it...
Who has said she lied?
Pretty obvious to me. Native Americans have a protocol that determines if you are Native America...why would she not follow their protocol?
My brother in law is Metis (if you do not know what Metis is...google it)...he had to undergo their protocol for verification...not a dumb DNA test that does not prove much as far as Native Americans are concerned.
Who gives a fuck?
Clearly not you, but you can't pretend that didn't damage her. And she compounded it with the DNA test.
That was stupid. It was also 8 months ago. Ever since, she's been rising in the polls and had a good debate on Wednesday.
I guess I'm confused why this is a topic of conversation today.
I think Mickey had something to say after his absence...
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Why are we talking about the native American thing again? Did I miss something?
my absence.
I just had to reply... didnt see what I felt to be a pertinent response. then Meltdown backed that up with the article from last October.
What she said is relevant. It goes to credibility. What kind of fraud needs to lie about their heritage...is she ashamed of being white? If she is, she should say so...
If she is native american...then prove it through what native Americans consider an acceptable protocol...
Does not matter, she will not get the nod...Biden will still win it...
Who has said she lied?
Pretty obvious to me. Native Americans have a protocol that determines if you are Native America...why would she not follow their protocol?
My brother in law is Metis (if you do not know what Metis is...google it)...he had to undergo their protocol for verification...not a dumb DNA test that does not prove much as far as Native Americans are concerned.
Who gives a fuck?
Clearly not you, but you can't pretend that didn't damage her. And she compounded it with the DNA test.
That was stupid. It was also 8 months ago. Ever since, she's been rising in the polls and had a good debate on Wednesday.
I guess I'm confused why this is a topic of conversation today.
I think Mickey had something to say after his absence...
understatement of the decade right here......I need to pace myself!!!
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Well, we know most Americans don't give a fuck...it still goes to credibility? and the fact that she was trying to exploit Native Americans culture to her advantage...the problem...I never see Native American issues discussed...are Americans embarrassed for what happened to the original owners of that piece of land. Here in Canada, 1st nation issues are discussed extensively...
I honestly think she was told that when she was a kid and grew up believing it and never really questioned it. Lots of families have stories like that that get past down from generation to generation and the facts of those stories can get blurry as the years and generations go by.
She should've handled the situation MUCH better. But is this a big deal or even a deal at all in the grand scheme of things, especially with someone who has zero credibility in the White House? Of course not. Back in October people though her campaign was over before it started. That's obviously not the case.
Asked again about busing, Trump says: "It has been something that they've done for a long period of time. There aren't that many ways of getting people to schools."
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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Asked again about busing, Trump says: "It has been something that they've done for a long period of time. There aren't that many ways of getting people to schools."
Asked again about busing, Trump says: "It has been something that they've done for a long period of time. There aren't that many ways of getting people to schools."
King Moron.
Technically he is correct. There are probably 5 ways. Buses, walking, rides, skateboard, bike. The dude is playing 3d chess. You're just not up to the game.
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Asked again about busing, Trump says: "It has been something that they've done for a long period of time. There aren't that many ways of getting people to schools."
King Moron.
Technically he is correct. There are probably 5 ways. Buses, walking, rides, skateboard, bike. The dude is playing 3d chess. You're just not up to the game.
jet packs. where are the goddamned jet packs. supposed to have them by now.....
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Well, we know most Americans don't give a fuck...it still goes to credibility? and the fact that she was trying to exploit Native Americans culture to her advantage...the problem...I never see Native American issues discussed...are Americans embarrassed for what happened to the original owners of that piece of land. Here in Canada, 1st nation issues are discussed extensively...
To me it sounds like you are fabricating narratives.
Why? Does it bother you what your Europeans ancestors did to our 1st nation's people? does the destruction of the 1st nation's culture by your European ancestors both you? How about the Euros who destroyed 1st nations hunting grounds and were on a mission to wipe out as many animals as possible???
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up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,788
Well, we know most Americans don't give a fuck...it still goes to credibility? and the fact that she was trying to exploit Native Americans culture to her advantage...the problem...I never see Native American issues discussed...are Americans embarrassed for what happened to the original owners of that piece of land. Here in Canada, 1st nation issues are discussed extensively...
To me it sounds like you are fabricating narratives.
Why? Does it bother you what your Europeans ancestors did to our 1st nation's people? does the destruction of the 1st nation's culture by your European ancestors both you? How about the Euros who destroyed 1st nations hunting grounds and were on a mission to wipe out as many animals as possible???
some. uniquely N American
....
not to mention the introduction of non-native species
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Well, we know most Americans don't give a fuck...it still goes to credibility? and the fact that she was trying to exploit Native Americans culture to her advantage...the problem...I never see Native American issues discussed...are Americans embarrassed for what happened to the original owners of that piece of land. Here in Canada, 1st nation issues are discussed extensively...
To me it sounds like you are fabricating narratives.
Why? Does it bother you what your Europeans ancestors did to our 1st nation's people? does the destruction of the 1st nation's culture by your European ancestors both you? How about the Euros who destroyed 1st nations hunting grounds and were on a mission to wipe out as many animals as possible???
Ofc it does. Who wouldnt it bother?
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Well, we know most Americans don't give a fuck...it still goes to credibility? and the fact that she was trying to exploit Native Americans culture to her advantage...the problem...I never see Native American issues discussed...are Americans embarrassed for what happened to the original owners of that piece of land. Here in Canada, 1st nation issues are discussed extensively...
To me it sounds like you are fabricating narratives.
Why? Does it bother you what your Europeans ancestors did to our 1st nation's people? does the destruction of the 1st nation's culture by your European ancestors both you? How about the Euros who destroyed 1st nations hunting grounds and were on a mission to wipe out as many animals as possible???
Don't do it man!
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Well, we know most Americans don't give a fuck...it still goes to credibility? and the fact that she was trying to exploit Native Americans culture to her advantage...the problem...I never see Native American issues discussed...are Americans embarrassed for what happened to the original owners of that piece of land. Here in Canada, 1st nation issues are discussed extensively...
To me it sounds like you are fabricating narratives.
look into the books I referenced if you havent already . Especially Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee. Audiobooks were an easy to listen to thing for such a heavy subject....
I look forward to your thoughts on the history of it and how that dovetails with meltdowns comment at it relates to U.S
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Well, we know most Americans don't give a fuck...it still goes to credibility? and the fact that she was trying to exploit Native Americans culture to her advantage...the problem...I never see Native American issues discussed...are Americans embarrassed for what happened to the original owners of that piece of land. Here in Canada, 1st nation issues are discussed extensively...
To me it sounds like you are fabricating narratives.
look into the books I referenced if you havent already . Especially Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee. Audiobooks were an easy to listen to thing for such a heavy subject....
I look forward to your thoughts on the history of it and how that dovetails with meltdowns comment at it relates to U.S
Are you talking about the Tommy Lee Jones directed movie?
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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Well, we know most Americans don't give a fuck...it still goes to credibility? and the fact that she was trying to exploit Native Americans culture to her advantage...the problem...I never see Native American issues discussed...are Americans embarrassed for what happened to the original owners of that piece of land. Here in Canada, 1st nation issues are discussed extensively...
To me it sounds like you are fabricating narratives.
look into the books I referenced if you havent already . Especially Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee. Audiobooks were an easy to listen to thing for such a heavy subject....
I look forward to your thoughts on the history of it and how that dovetails with meltdowns comment at it relates to U.S
Are you talking about the Tommy Lee Jones directed movie?
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Biden fired up right now on CNN. In Chicago and defending his record on many fronts. Sleepy Joe ain’t so sleepy.
Wasnt sleepy in the debate either. This narrative being built up, in this thread and elsewehere, about his sleepyness is not factual. Folks.
BIDEN 2020
I agree he never seemed sleepy. Isn't Trump the one who made that up on Twitter??? I can't believe it actually appears to have stuck with liberals. Wtf?
he's not sleepy...he's just old. the Dems have to do better than 76 year old Joe Biden and 77 year old Bernie Sanders. If it makes me an ageist to say they are too old to be President...then call me an ageist.
Biden seems pretty energetic and not at all slow or old in terms of how be behaves or processes information, no matter what his age is IMO. Same with Bernie. God knows both certainly come off as way less senile, old, and out of shape than Trump.
Well...a few things: He stumbled over his words quite a few times and he had that deer in the headlights look when he was being attacked as if he somehow wasn't expecting it. He also answered "defeat Donald Trump" in response to what his first order of business would be after being sworn in.
Old. Sleepy. Ill-prepared. However you want to put it: he was not good at all, especially in the second hour.
Hey, I'm not for Biden. I just don't think he seems sleepy and I don't think any of what's wrong with him is due to his age. I don't think he was any better than he is now 10 years ago, or 20, or 30.
I am actually for Biden. But go back and watch some youtube clips of him in 07. Even '12. He was very different than how he appeared last night. More witty. Not stumbling over words. And he was also pretty damn funny. He didn't exhibit any of those traits last night. Again, I'm not saying it's totally his age, but he seemed like a different person last night compared to how he came off previously.
This could just be him being unprepared. Or maybe he is not used to being the front runner. He's usually the one punching up like everyone was towards him last night. Either way, there's definitely a difference.
If it comes across that I am critiquing the US treatment of Native Americans, I am not...more curious to why it is not ever a campaign issue? Canada is just as guilty for its poor treatment, in some ways it was worse...the residential schools come to mind.
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Who has said she lied?
My brother in law is Metis (if you do not know what Metis is...google it)...he had to undergo their protocol for verification...not a dumb DNA test that does not prove much as far as Native Americans are concerned.
I guess I'm confused why this is a topic of conversation today.
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She should've handled the situation MUCH better. But is this a big deal or even a deal at all in the grand scheme of things, especially with someone who has zero credibility in the White House? Of course not. Back in October people though her campaign was over before it started. That's obviously not the case.
Or you can agree with Harris.
Or, you can agree with Trump:
Asked again about busing, Trump says: "It has been something that they've done for a long period of time. There aren't that many ways of getting people to schools."
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Im pretty sure that is the book Tommy Lee Jones adapted...
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