I’m really hoping those of you who are so negative about this solo tour will just not go and leave the tickets for those of us who are psyched about seeing Ed in Europe this summer.
I’m really hoping those of you who are so negative about this solo tour will just not go and leave the tickets for those of us who are psyched about seeing Ed in Europe this summer.
By the sizes of the venue they have selected you will have no issues getting tickets. To the point of the negativity you have to understand that people were/are hyped for a new album and NA tour with Pearl Jam. Yes that can still happen this year but with Eddie touring for a month in June/July it really points in the direction of not going to happen.
Many people will go to these shows and have the best nights of their lives.
Yet Im troubled by the fact that this is the least excited ive ever been by a tour. It genuinely bothers me, but im putting it down to venue sizes........
Perhaps it is just a realization that Pearl Jam is what matters most to you. Ed is a big piece of it, but at the end of the day you love Pearl Jam.
But yeah, I don’t think I will go to many PJ shows where I am 30+ yards from stage unless a festival, I want to be close enough where I watch the band and not the screens.
Ed solo till the end of summer Then pj touring in US (fall) Australia January and Feb Ed solo in March too (aus) Summer 2020 pj back in EU (wishlist)
EV & PJ back in Euro in 2020? So soon?
2017 EV Euro Tour.
2018 PJ Euro Tour.
2019 EV Euro Tour.
How about maybe take a break from travelling to Europe and play shows in continents that haven't seen or experienced EV & Pearl Jam in many, many years maybe? Australia & Asia? Last EV solo tour in the USA was 2014. His last solo tour in Canada was 2008.
Many people will go to these shows and have the best nights of their lives.
Yet Im troubled by the fact that this is the least excited ive ever been by a tour. It genuinely bothers me, but im putting it down to venue sizes........
A is first letter of alphabet. All starts from there
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I am with you on that. Next Australia tour I am there as long as they are not all festivals.
Don’t worry about festivals, no festivals here big enough for PJ anymore!
No more BDO? I would kill for a 6 or 7 show proper run.
2014 was the last BDO, it was widely known that after that tour the BDO would be no more. Next time PJ come down under it will be with their own tour. I can’t see any festival big enough to cater for them.
I feel so disconnected from PJ. It’s a weird feeling honestly. Between the merch craze, the complete lack of interest in new music, the baseball stadiums, the odd touring schedule, announcing one date at a time, another EV solo tour, the formulaic setlists.... I’m not complaining, it’s just all things I would of never picture 10 years ago. I’ll always love this band but I gotta say, I get the feeling the magic is dissipating.
Just in case disclaimer: this is just my opinion. Not a fact. Believe it or not, others may not feel this way and there’s nothing wrong with that either.
I feel what you are saying for sure
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I just think that the connection came from real rumors and albums coming out. Back in 1998-2006, we had albums coming out every few years, tours moved much faster, information seemed to leak a lot more. The rumor pit always seemed to help get some of that info out.
Strangely, in the time of social media, we feel less connected, because there is/seems to be actual information to leak. They have released 1 album in almost 10 years. (Backspacer came out in Sept 2009). They dont do full massive tours (like DMB for example) every year, so there is just less info to be communicated.
Many people will go to these shows and have the best nights of their lives.
Yet Im troubled by the fact that this is the least excited ive ever been by a tour. It genuinely bothers me, but im putting it down to venue sizes........
Perhaps it is just a realization that Pearl Jam is what matters most to you. Ed is a big piece of it, but at the end of the day you love Pearl Jam.
But yeah, I don’t think I will go to many PJ shows where I am 30+ yards from stage unless a festival, I want to be close enough where I watch the band and not the screens.
Many people will go to these shows and have the best nights of their lives.
Yet Im troubled by the fact that this is the least excited ive ever been by a tour. It genuinely bothers me, but im putting it down to venue sizes........
Perhaps it is just a realization that Pearl Jam is what matters most to you. Ed is a big piece of it, but at the end of the day you love Pearl Jam.
But yeah, I don’t think I will go to many PJ shows where I am 30+ yards from stage unless a festival, I want to be close enough where I watch the band and not the screens.
there is no comparison between eddie solo and pj for me..if pj was coming to europe the thought in my mind would be to do the whole tour and skip a couple of difficult to go festivals.. now with ev solo i say..yeah lets go and see a couple of shows..would be great nights
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It’s time to come to terms with the idea that Pearl Jam isn’t here to serve us. They’re people with families and lives of their own. They experienced a horrific blow with the loss of Chris. Be grateful for what we get at this point. They’ve given us a lifetime of music and memories!
It’s time to come to terms with the idea that Pearl Jam isn’t here to serve us. They’re people with families and lives of their own. They experienced a horrific blow with the loss of Chris. Be grateful for what we get at this point. They’ve given us a lifetime of music and memories!
I hate the family excuse. People with families have jobs and travel for business all the time.
It’s time to come to terms with the idea that Pearl Jam isn’t here to serve us. They’re people with families and lives of their own. They experienced a horrific blow with the loss of Chris. Be grateful for what we get at this point. They’ve given us a lifetime of music and memories!
I hate the family excuse. People with families have jobs and travel for business all the time.
People with families work a lot more and harder than these guys do.
But they also have to work, which differ.
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It’s time to come to terms with the idea that Pearl Jam isn’t here to serve us. They’re people with families and lives of their own. They experienced a horrific blow with the loss of Chris. Be grateful for what we get at this point. They’ve given us a lifetime of music and memories!
I hate the family excuse. People with families have jobs and travel for business all the time.
They don't have a choice. EV can play when and where he wants, or not at all.
It’s time to come to terms with the idea that Pearl Jam isn’t here to serve us. They’re people with families and lives of their own. They experienced a horrific blow with the loss of Chris. Be grateful for what we get at this point. They’ve given us a lifetime of music and memories!
I hate the family excuse. People with families have jobs and travel for business all the time.
People with families work a lot more and harder than these guys do.
But they also have to work, which differ.
Absolutely true. But I m guessing the only reason they don’t want to play is because they simply don’t want to play live. It isn’t about their families.
And good on the fans that still want more than the Ed family vacation tour of songs written years ago...
he just doesnt have the catalog to still be doing solo shows without new music in my opinion... this isn't Neil Young pulling from 50 years and 50 albums of material
It’s time to come to terms with the idea that Pearl Jam isn’t here to serve us. They’re people with families and lives of their own. They experienced a horrific blow with the loss of Chris. Be grateful for what we get at this point. They’ve given us a lifetime of music and memories!
I hate the family excuse. People with families have jobs and travel for business all the time.
People with families work a lot more and harder than these guys do.
But they also have to work, which differ.
Absolutely true. But I m guessing the only reason they don’t want to play is because they simply don’t want to play live. It isn’t about their families.
Yeah that could be the reason and I know what you mean about a lot of people working away too. As a father of 4 I have to work away maybe 2 - 3 nights a week every week. (I'm in Glasgow right now and live in Cambridgeshire!)... But - if PJ went on tour like they used to, it can be months away while kids are at school. Which I wouldn't accept - I'd change jobs! Even though I used to like playing live in my band! haha!. The current schedules kind of allow for that one Summer school break and they can tour with their families. I think that's fair enough. I also think they have to balance commercial interest and they do that be keeping the touring to a lower level when there's no album to promote... I can't really understand how there's been no album music since 2013 though.. Or how the last 2 albums were clearly not recorded as a band altogether. Guess it might be same reasons around being away from family / kids for long periods...
I do think we get a lot of opportunities to see the band live though - whether PJ or Eddie they do a fair amount of reachable shows over the years. I remember the 6 year gap between 2000 and 2006... Led me to go crazy every Euro Tour since!
I'm personally glad the fans want more and arent just "grateful for what they get"... what kind of shit is that? It sucks watching the best band on the planet just coast and stop being creative
Can anybody help with Italian ? It looks like there are buses from and to Milan and Turin is that right after the show or are they regular daytime buses ? I don't speak Italian but it looks like that from the festival site ?
It’s time to come to terms with the idea that Pearl Jam isn’t here to serve us. They’re people with families and lives of their own. They experienced a horrific blow with the loss of Chris. Be grateful for what we get at this point. They’ve given us a lifetime of music and memories!
I hate the family excuse. People with families have jobs and travel for business all the time.
People with families work a lot more and harder than these guys do.
But they also have to work, which differ.
Absolutely true. But I m guessing the only reason they don’t want to play is because they simply don’t want to play live. It isn’t about their families.
Or maybe it is about their families and trying to avoid some of the things that have ravaged their own lives and relationships along the way and those of close friends that do/did tour pretty obsessively.
These guys would be the first to tell you and genuinely mean they have been blessed to make an extremely good living of off art, but they'd also be totally dishonest if they did not say the experience is equally taxing in different ways.
It’s time to come to terms with the idea that Pearl Jam isn’t here to serve us. They’re people with families and lives of their own. They experienced a horrific blow with the loss of Chris. Be grateful for what we get at this point. They’ve given us a lifetime of music and memories!
I hate the family excuse. People with families have jobs and travel for business all the time.
People with families work a lot more and harder than these guys do.
But they also have to work, which differ.
Absolutely true. But I m guessing the only reason they don’t want to play is because they simply don’t want to play live. It isn’t about their families.
Or maybe it is about their families and trying to avoid some of the things that have ravaged their own lives and relationships along the way and those of close friends that do/did tour pretty obsessively.
These guys would be the first to tell you and genuinely mean they have been blessed to make an extremely good living of off art, but they'd also be totally dishonest if they did not say the experience is equally taxing in different ways.
In Sweden I think you get like 4-500 days paid parental leave to be with your child - by law. And many dads prioritise to be home with their kids when they're growing up.
I get that it's not like that in the US (yet).
But I don't see it being that weird someone in the band decided to spend time as a "staying-home-dad" when the opportunity was given to them. No economic stress etc.
But I also think that Pearl Jam might have become "a job". And why spend time at your "job" when you don't need to.
I mean, if it was what you lived for -- we would be swimming in albums and christmas singles.
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
I think for some folks, coming to grips with aging while a favorite band ages is proving to be an interesting experience. I'd be very happy if Pearl Jam were releasing new and interesting music every 2-3 years or at least touring each year like some bands get out and do. But I can't say I am shocked that they don't. This is not a historical first that a very good band sort of ends the creative portion of their career and comes back for small bursts of performances here and there.
This is not a historical first that a very good band sort of ends the creative portion of their career and comes back for small bursts of performances here and there.
Yeah, I mean KISS even had to cancel tours in the 80s!
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
I think for some folks, coming to grips with aging while a favorite band ages is proving to be an interesting experience. I'd be very happy if Pearl Jam were releasing new and interesting music every 2-3 years or at least touring each year like some bands get out and do. But I can't say I am shocked that they don't. This is not a historical first that a very good band sort of ends the creative portion of their career and comes back for small bursts of performances here and there.
And guess what, that blows, and people are allowed to say it blows
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But yeah, I don’t think I will go to many PJ shows where I am 30+ yards from stage unless a festival, I want to be close enough where I watch the band and not the screens.
I mean, he HAS to be releasing an album, right?
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now with ev solo i say..yeah lets go and see a couple of shows..would be great nights
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But they also have to work, which differ.
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he just doesnt have the catalog to still be doing solo shows without new music in my opinion... this isn't Neil Young pulling from 50 years and 50 albums of material
As a father of 4 I have to work away maybe 2 - 3 nights a week every week. (I'm in Glasgow right now and live in Cambridgeshire!)... But - if PJ went on tour like they used to, it can be months away while kids are at school. Which I wouldn't accept - I'd change jobs! Even though I used to like playing live in my band! haha!.
The current schedules kind of allow for that one Summer school break and they can tour with their families. I think that's fair enough.
I also think they have to balance commercial interest and they do that be keeping the touring to a lower level when there's no album to promote...
I can't really understand how there's been no album music since 2013 though.. Or how the last 2 albums were clearly not recorded as a band altogether. Guess it might be same reasons around being away from family / kids for long periods...
I do think we get a lot of opportunities to see the band live though - whether PJ or Eddie they do a fair amount of reachable shows over the years. I remember the 6 year gap between 2000 and 2006... Led me to go crazy every Euro Tour since!
These guys would be the first to tell you and genuinely mean they have been blessed to make an extremely good living of off art, but they'd also be totally dishonest if they did not say the experience is equally taxing in different ways.
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I get that it's not like that in the US (yet).
But I don't see it being that weird someone in the band decided to spend time as a "staying-home-dad" when the opportunity was given to them. No economic stress etc.
But I also think that Pearl Jam might have become "a job". And why spend time at your "job" when you don't need to.
I mean, if it was what you lived for -- we would be swimming in albums and christmas singles.
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