Should I ask Agnes out on a date?

Spiritual_Chaos

mcgruff10 said:

My wife and I took a half a vacation day today together. I can’t imagine spending that time with another woman. 

Could you imagine spending time with a friend?

PJ_Soul

Yes

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

My wife and I took a half a vacation day today together. I can’t imagine spending that time with another woman. 

Could you imagine spending time with a friend?

Exactly. Or any other time you may have.

Seriously, this really does come off as sexist. It's at the very least saying that you can't conceive any relationship with a woman that isn't romantic or somehow sexually charged. Why else would you be comparing a female friend to your wife?

mcgruff10

Yes

PJ_Soul said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

My wife and I took a half a vacation day today together. I can’t imagine spending that time with another woman. 

Could you imagine spending time with a friend?

Exactly. Or any other time you may have.

Seriously, this really does come off as sexist. It's at the very least saying that you can't conceive any relationship with a woman that isn't romantic or somehow sexually charged. Why else would you be comparing a female friend to your wife?

Sexist?  Nah, just in love with my wife. 

dankind

Yes

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

My wife and I took a half a vacation day today together. I can’t imagine spending that time with another woman. 

Could you imagine spending time with a friend?

Exactly. Or any other time you may have.

Seriously, this really does come off as sexist. It's at the very least saying that you can't conceive any relationship with a woman that isn't romantic or somehow sexually charged. Why else would you be comparing a female friend to your wife?

Sexist?  Nah, just in love with my wife. 

Pansy.

PJ_Soul

Yes

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

My wife and I took a half a vacation day today together. I can’t imagine spending that time with another woman. 

Could you imagine spending time with a friend?

Exactly. Or any other time you may have.

Seriously, this really does come off as sexist. It's at the very least saying that you can't conceive any relationship with a woman that isn't romantic or somehow sexually charged. Why else would you be comparing a female friend to your wife?

Sexist?  Nah, just in love with my wife. 

What does your love for your wife have to do with other friendships? That's the point. That's why it's sexist. If we were talking about you hanging out with one of your buddies you wouldn't be mentioning your wife. Sorry, I'm not trying to argue with you... it's just so.... sexist. IMO.

bbiggs

PJ_Soul said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

My wife and I took a half a vacation day today together. I can’t imagine spending that time with another woman. 

Could you imagine spending time with a friend?

Exactly. Or any other time you may have.

Seriously, this really does come off as sexist. It's at the very least saying that you can't conceive any relationship with a woman that isn't romantic or somehow sexually charged. Why else would you be comparing a female friend to your wife?

Sexist?  Nah, just in love with my wife. 

What does your love for your wife have to do with other friendships? That's the point. That's why it's sexist. If we were talking about you hanging out with one of your buddies you wouldn't be mentioning your wife. Sorry, I'm not trying to argue with you... it's just so.... sexist. IMO.

I don’t think it’s sexist. There are a lot of women who are married that wouldn’t spend time one on one with another guy either. I think it’s the same from both sides. Or it’s sexist from both sides then. 

PJ_Soul

Yes

bbiggs said:

PJ_Soul said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

My wife and I took a half a vacation day today together. I can’t imagine spending that time with another woman. 

Could you imagine spending time with a friend?

Exactly. Or any other time you may have.

Seriously, this really does come off as sexist. It's at the very least saying that you can't conceive any relationship with a woman that isn't romantic or somehow sexually charged. Why else would you be comparing a female friend to your wife?

Sexist?  Nah, just in love with my wife. 

What does your love for your wife have to do with other friendships? That's the point. That's why it's sexist. If we were talking about you hanging out with one of your buddies you wouldn't be mentioning your wife. Sorry, I'm not trying to argue with you... it's just so.... sexist. IMO.

I don’t think it’s sexist. There are a lot of women who are married that wouldn’t spend time one on one with another guy either. I think it’s the same from both sides. Or it’s sexist from both sides then. 

Yes, absolutely that would be sexist if a woman did the same thing. Obviously.

bbiggs

PJ_Soul said:

bbiggs said:

PJ_Soul said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

My wife and I took a half a vacation day today together. I can’t imagine spending that time with another woman. 

Could you imagine spending time with a friend?

Exactly. Or any other time you may have.

Seriously, this really does come off as sexist. It's at the very least saying that you can't conceive any relationship with a woman that isn't romantic or somehow sexually charged. Why else would you be comparing a female friend to your wife?

Sexist?  Nah, just in love with my wife. 

What does your love for your wife have to do with other friendships? That's the point. That's why it's sexist. If we were talking about you hanging out with one of your buddies you wouldn't be mentioning your wife. Sorry, I'm not trying to argue with you... it's just so.... sexist. IMO.

I don’t think it’s sexist. There are a lot of women who are married that wouldn’t spend time one on one with another guy either. I think it’s the same from both sides. Or it’s sexist from both sides then. 

Yes, absolutely that would be sexist if a woman did the same thing. Obviously. It's a sexist problem no matter who is refusing to be friends with someone based on their gender.

That’s fair. I still don’t think it’s sexist though. 

Spiritual_Chaos

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

My wife and I took a half a vacation day today together. I can’t imagine spending that time with another woman. 

Could you imagine spending time with a friend?

Exactly. Or any other time you may have.

Seriously, this really does come off as sexist. It's at the very least saying that you can't conceive any relationship with a woman that isn't romantic or somehow sexually charged. Why else would you be comparing a female friend to your wife?

Sexist?  Nah, just in love with my wife. 

What has that to do with friendship? You can be in love with your wife and have friends. Those two things are not mutually exlusive.

mcgruff10

Yes

I was just thinking about this thread while I was eating lunch today. That is all. 

PJ_Soul

Yes

bbiggs said:

PJ_Soul said:

bbiggs said:

PJ_Soul said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

My wife and I took a half a vacation day today together. I can’t imagine spending that time with another woman. 

Could you imagine spending time with a friend?

Exactly. Or any other time you may have.

Seriously, this really does come off as sexist. It's at the very least saying that you can't conceive any relationship with a woman that isn't romantic or somehow sexually charged. Why else would you be comparing a female friend to your wife?

Sexist?  Nah, just in love with my wife. 

What does your love for your wife have to do with other friendships? That's the point. That's why it's sexist. If we were talking about you hanging out with one of your buddies you wouldn't be mentioning your wife. Sorry, I'm not trying to argue with you... it's just so.... sexist. IMO.

I don’t think it’s sexist. There are a lot of women who are married that wouldn’t spend time one on one with another guy either. I think it’s the same from both sides. Or it’s sexist from both sides then. 

Yes, absolutely that would be sexist if a woman did the same thing. Obviously. It's a sexist problem no matter who is refusing to be friends with someone based on their gender.

That’s fair. I still don’t think it’s sexist though. 

I'm not sure what else you could call refusing to be friends with someone based solely on their gender and/or the inability to view people of the opposite sex outside of a sexualized/romanticized context. That's sexist by definition. It's something people should try to change. To me it already seems super old fashioned. I hope this silliness doesn't exist at all for the next generation or the one after that, because it's fucking stupid and sexist and shows there's a long way to go before the sexes respect each other properly..... At least the LGBTQ community seems to have gotten past it for the most part.

bbiggs

PJ_Soul said:

bbiggs said:

PJ_Soul said:

bbiggs said:

PJ_Soul said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

My wife and I took a half a vacation day today together. I can’t imagine spending that time with another woman. 

Could you imagine spending time with a friend?

Exactly. Or any other time you may have.

Seriously, this really does come off as sexist. It's at the very least saying that you can't conceive any relationship with a woman that isn't romantic or somehow sexually charged. Why else would you be comparing a female friend to your wife?

Sexist?  Nah, just in love with my wife. 

What does your love for your wife have to do with other friendships? That's the point. That's why it's sexist. If we were talking about you hanging out with one of your buddies you wouldn't be mentioning your wife. Sorry, I'm not trying to argue with you... it's just so.... sexist. IMO.

I don’t think it’s sexist. There are a lot of women who are married that wouldn’t spend time one on one with another guy either. I think it’s the same from both sides. Or it’s sexist from both sides then. 

Yes, absolutely that would be sexist if a woman did the same thing. Obviously. It's a sexist problem no matter who is refusing to be friends with someone based on their gender.

That’s fair. I still don’t think it’s sexist though. 

I'm not sure what else you could call refusing to be friends with someone based solely on their gender and/or the inability to view people of the opposite sex outside of a sexualized/romanticized context. That's sexist my definition. It's something people should try to change. To me it already seems super old fashioned. I hope this silliness doesn't exist at all for the next generation or the one after that, because it's fucking stupid and sexist and shows there's a long way to go before the sexes respect each other properly..... At least the LGBTQ community seems to have gotten past it for the most part.

It’s not a lack of respect for the opposite gender. It’s showing respect to your spouse.  As much as I trust my wife, I wouldn’t love the idea of her having a dinner, drinks, movie night with any man except me (or her father). 

OffSheGoes35

No

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

My wife and I took a half a vacation day today together. I can’t imagine spending that time with another woman. 

Could you imagine spending time with a friend?

Could you imagine spending time with a friend... and his imaginary love interest?

mcgruff10

Yes

PJ_Soul said:

bbiggs said:

PJ_Soul said:

bbiggs said:

PJ_Soul said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

My wife and I took a half a vacation day today together. I can’t imagine spending that time with another woman. 

Could you imagine spending time with a friend?

Exactly. Or any other time you may have.

Seriously, this really does come off as sexist. It's at the very least saying that you can't conceive any relationship with a woman that isn't romantic or somehow sexually charged. Why else would you be comparing a female friend to your wife?

Sexist?  Nah, just in love with my wife. 

What does your love for your wife have to do with other friendships? That's the point. That's why it's sexist. If we were talking about you hanging out with one of your buddies you wouldn't be mentioning your wife. Sorry, I'm not trying to argue with you... it's just so.... sexist. IMO.

I don’t think it’s sexist. There are a lot of women who are married that wouldn’t spend time one on one with another guy either. I think it’s the same from both sides. Or it’s sexist from both sides then. 

Yes, absolutely that would be sexist if a woman did the same thing. Obviously. It's a sexist problem no matter who is refusing to be friends with someone based on their gender.

That’s fair. I still don’t think it’s sexist though. 

I'm not sure what else you could call refusing to be friends with someone based solely on their gender and/or the inability to view people of the opposite sex outside of a sexualized/romanticized context. That's sexist by definition. It's something people should try to change. To me it already seems super old fashioned. I hope this silliness doesn't exist at all for the next generation or the one after that, because it's fucking stupid and sexist and shows there's a long way to go before the sexes respect each other properly..... At least the LGBTQ community seems to have gotten past it for the most part.

It definitely isn’t sexist.  It s just having respect for your significant other and seriously having no interest in those relationships. Spiritual, i have plenty of friends! We try to get together every three or four months but it is tough because we all have kids and spend time with our wives.  

dankind

Yes

F Me In The Brain said:

I heard a story about a guy being denied the right to shit upstairs late at night, when he was drunk, because he was not Dankind nor female.

Sexist pigs!

The shit story was a ruse. That guy was just trying to get into my pants. 

bbiggs

If I really wanted to hang out with another married woman, I’d tell my wife to come along and have the woman’s husband come too. We love hanging with other couples and do it all the time. It’s a blast. Sometimes I’ll even spend more time chatting it up with the woman or women that aren’t my wife, and that’s totaly cool. The one on one thing just seems unnecessary. 

mcgruff10

Yes

dankind said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

My wife and I took a half a vacation day today together. I can’t imagine spending that time with another woman. 

Could you imagine spending time with a friend?

Exactly. Or any other time you may have.

Seriously, this really does come off as sexist. It's at the very least saying that you can't conceive any relationship with a woman that isn't romantic or somehow sexually charged. Why else would you be comparing a female friend to your wife?

Sexist?  Nah, just in love with my wife. 

Pansy.

This weekend My buddy is eating at Regina s pizza in Boston. Have you ever tried it? 

mcgruff10

Yes

bbiggs said:

If I really wanted to hang out with another married woman, I’d tell my wife to come along and have the woman’s husband come too. We love hanging with other couples and do it all the time. It’s a blast. Sometimes I’ll even spend more time chatting it up with the woman or women that aren’t my wife, and that’s totaly cool. The one on one thing just seems unnecessary. 

100000000000% agree. 

PJ_Soul

Yes

bbiggs said:

PJ_Soul said:

bbiggs said:

PJ_Soul said:

bbiggs said:

PJ_Soul said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

My wife and I took a half a vacation day today together. I can’t imagine spending that time with another woman. 

Could you imagine spending time with a friend?

Exactly. Or any other time you may have.

Seriously, this really does come off as sexist. It's at the very least saying that you can't conceive any relationship with a woman that isn't romantic or somehow sexually charged. Why else would you be comparing a female friend to your wife?

Sexist?  Nah, just in love with my wife. 

What does your love for your wife have to do with other friendships? That's the point. That's why it's sexist. If we were talking about you hanging out with one of your buddies you wouldn't be mentioning your wife. Sorry, I'm not trying to argue with you... it's just so.... sexist. IMO.

I don’t think it’s sexist. There are a lot of women who are married that wouldn’t spend time one on one with another guy either. I think it’s the same from both sides. Or it’s sexist from both sides then. 

Yes, absolutely that would be sexist if a woman did the same thing. Obviously. It's a sexist problem no matter who is refusing to be friends with someone based on their gender.

That’s fair. I still don’t think it’s sexist though. 

I'm not sure what else you could call refusing to be friends with someone based solely on their gender and/or the inability to view people of the opposite sex outside of a sexualized/romanticized context. That's sexist my definition. It's something people should try to change. To me it already seems super old fashioned. I hope this silliness doesn't exist at all for the next generation or the one after that, because it's fucking stupid and sexist and shows there's a long way to go before the sexes respect each other properly..... At least the LGBTQ community seems to have gotten past it for the most part.

It’s not a lack of respect for the opposite gender. It’s showing respect to your spouse.  As much as I trust my wife, I wouldn’t love the idea of her having a dinner, drinks, movie night with any man except me (or her father). 

I really just don't understand how you're not seeing the sexism involved here. And yes, if you or your spouse are incapable of considering a friendship with the opposite sex without feeling jealously like what you just described, I do think that's a general issue of respect for the opposite gender. I mean, you not wanting your wife to hang out with a male friend because you want that man to be only yourself or her blood relatives, that is a pure sense of possession of jealously. There is no other possible explanation behind that. The only reason this doesn't feel sexist to you, nor like a form of jealousy, is because it's normalized thinking. To me it's old fashioned normalized thinking, but normalized thinking all the same. Societies can be very slow to change such traditional perspectives.

bbiggs

PJ_Soul said:

bbiggs said:

PJ_Soul said:

bbiggs said:

PJ_Soul said:

bbiggs said:

PJ_Soul said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

My wife and I took a half a vacation day today together. I can’t imagine spending that time with another woman. 

Could you imagine spending time with a friend?

Exactly. Or any other time you may have.

Seriously, this really does come off as sexist. It's at the very least saying that you can't conceive any relationship with a woman that isn't romantic or somehow sexually charged. Why else would you be comparing a female friend to your wife?

Sexist?  Nah, just in love with my wife. 

What does your love for your wife have to do with other friendships? That's the point. That's why it's sexist. If we were talking about you hanging out with one of your buddies you wouldn't be mentioning your wife. Sorry, I'm not trying to argue with you... it's just so.... sexist. IMO.

I don’t think it’s sexist. There are a lot of women who are married that wouldn’t spend time one on one with another guy either. I think it’s the same from both sides. Or it’s sexist from both sides then. 

Yes, absolutely that would be sexist if a woman did the same thing. Obviously. It's a sexist problem no matter who is refusing to be friends with someone based on their gender.

That’s fair. I still don’t think it’s sexist though. 

I'm not sure what else you could call refusing to be friends with someone based solely on their gender and/or the inability to view people of the opposite sex outside of a sexualized/romanticized context. That's sexist my definition. It's something people should try to change. To me it already seems super old fashioned. I hope this silliness doesn't exist at all for the next generation or the one after that, because it's fucking stupid and sexist and shows there's a long way to go before the sexes respect each other properly..... At least the LGBTQ community seems to have gotten past it for the most part.

It’s not a lack of respect for the opposite gender. It’s showing respect to your spouse.  As much as I trust my wife, I wouldn’t love the idea of her having a dinner, drinks, movie night with any man except me (or her father). 

I really just don't understand how you're not seeing the sexism involved here. And yes, if you or your spouse are incapable of considering a friendship with the opposite sex without feeling jealously like what you just described, I do think that's a general issue of respect for the opposite gender. I mean, you not wanting your wife to hang out with a male friend because you want that man to be only yourself or her blood relatives, that is a pure sense of possession of jealously. There is no other possible explanation behind that. The only reason this doesn't feel sexist to you, nor like a form of jealousy, is because it's normalized thinking. To me it's old fashioned normalized thinking, but normalized thinking all the same. Societies can be very slow to change such traditional perspectives.

Well, I have been called an old soul before.