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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,538
    This country is an embarrassment and we are led by a sexual predator, fuck your flag & your anthem and everything that goes with it ...
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    But we don’t blame women for their assaults, right? 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,538
    Voting in November has never been more important how do these old white guys look themselves in the mirrors and smile and how do their wives lay next to them at night ...
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  • njnancynjnancy Posts: 5,096
    oftenreading said:
    But we don’t blame women for their assaults, right? 
    It's disgusting and Grassley should shut up.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    josevolution said:
    Voting in November has never been more important how do these old white guys look themselves in the mirrors and smile and how do their wives lay next to them at night ...
    This 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    Are “please” and “thank you” in Grassley’s vocabulary?
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    The angle now is to see if Ford was "coached" during the polygraph.
  • njnancynjnancy Posts: 5,096
    The Republican Senators chose to hire this woman to speak for them. How are they allowed to ask questions if they have given all their time to her?
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,538
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The angle now is to see if Ford was "coached" during the polygraph.
    but not Kavanaugh right like he wasn't coached he spent a whole week prepping for this ...
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  • njnancynjnancy Posts: 5,096
    Lindsay Graham has turned into a despicable human being.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,538
    njnancy said:
    Lindsay Graham has turned into a despicable human being.
    The whole Republican party has they are all falling right in line behind the biggest sexual predator to hold any government office ....
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,447
    This hearing is an absolute disgrace. Bring on November.
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  • pickupyourwillpickupyourwill Posts: 3,135
    edited September 2018
    I thought Chris Matthews made a good point on Meet the Press this past Sunday morning.  He said that Ford had a right as a good, responsible citizen to come forward about what happened.  He said it is in the public's best interest to know of any such flaws of a man, that if gone undetected and kept silent, could still manifest in the future.  Just because you sweep all those teenage problems under the rug doesn't mean that some darkness of that character is still not there.  I am paraphrasing all this, of course.  This is my take on it.  Kavanaugh seems to have a spotless reputation in adulthood, so I would like to think that all this has not ruined his reputation like Trump says.  I do believe there are women and lawyers who will make up stories that aren't true.  However, I watched a little of Ford's testimony, enough to be convinced she is telling the truth and was a person violated a long time ago who tried her best to keep it quiet. I give the Republicans some credit for even having heard her out.  I guess its not the Holocaust just yet.  We still have that blessed freedom of speech. 
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    You guys are watching this garbage? Lol

    Unplug. Disconnect. Save yourself. It's all a circus, and it's bad for you 

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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    What's wrong with gang rape and unchecked presidential power? 
  • njnancynjnancy Posts: 5,096
    my2hands said:
    You guys are watching this garbage? Lol

    Unplug. Disconnect. Save yourself. It's all a circus, and it's bad for you 

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    “Be nice to her.”
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    She was powerful...  how can Collins,  Murkowski or Flake vote yes?
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    my2hands said:
    You guys are watching this garbage? Lol

    Unplug. Disconnect. Save yourself. It's all a circus, and it's bad for you 

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    Give me a break. This is important for a lot of people. Especially the victims of sexual violence.
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    my2hands said:
    You guys are watching this garbage? Lol

    Unplug. Disconnect. Save yourself. It's all a circus, and it's bad for you 

    The biggest scumbags wear a suit & tie
    I am not watching, because I’m at work.  I’ll read later. There are some things that are important enough not to disregard. 
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    josevolution said:
    Voting in November has never been more important how do these old white guys look themselves in the mirrors and smile and how do their wives lay next to them at night ...
    Stop being racist.
  • njnancynjnancy Posts: 5,096
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    You guys are watching this garbage? Lol

    Unplug. Disconnect. Save yourself. It's all a circus, and it's bad for you 

    The biggest scumbags wear a suit & tie
    Give me a break. This is important for a lot of people. Especially the victims of sexual violence.
    Absolutely. It is the least one can do to show support. It is also a traumatizing experience that many are going through with her.  
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,951
    pickupyourwill said:
    I thought Chris Matthews made a good point on Meet the Press this past Sunday morning.  He said that Ford had a right as a good, responsible citizen to come forward about what happened.  He said it is in the public's best interest to know of any such flaws of a man, that if gone undetected and kept silent, could still manifest in the future.  Just because you sweep all those teenage problems under the rug doesn't mean that some darkness of that character is still not there.  I am paraphrasing all this, of course.  This is my take on it.  Kavanaugh seems to have a spotless reputation in adulthood, so I would like to think that all this has not ruined his reputation like Trump says.  I do believe there are women and lawyers who will make up stories that aren't true.  However, I watched a little of Ford's testimony, enough to be convinced she is telling the truth and was a person violated a long time ago who tried her best to keep it quiet. I give the Republicans some credit for even having heard her out.  I guess its not the Holocaust just yet.  We still have that blessed freedom of speech. 
    Well now we have a woman saying he was sexually aggressive in the 2000s, so... yeah.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    So Lindsay Graham seems to be hung up on Ford being unable to remember how she got to/from the party and what the date of the party was.  

    The 3 guests that Ford named that say they have no recollection would not have any reason to remember the party if they weren't sexually assaulted.
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  • njnancynjnancy Posts: 5,096
    Do these Republican Senators realize how horrible they sound. Graham's 'outrage' is nauseating. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    unsung said:
    josevolution said:
    Voting in November has never been more important how do these old white guys look themselves in the mirrors and smile and how do their wives lay next to them at night ...
    Stop being racist.
    How is that racist?
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  • njnancynjnancy Posts: 5,096
    PJ_Soul said:
    pickupyourwill said:
    I thought Chris Matthews made a good point on Meet the Press this past Sunday morning.  He said that Ford had a right as a good, responsible citizen to come forward about what happened.  He said it is in the public's best interest to know of any such flaws of a man, that if gone undetected and kept silent, could still manifest in the future.  Just because you sweep all those teenage problems under the rug doesn't mean that some darkness of that character is still not there.  I am paraphrasing all this, of course.  This is my take on it.  Kavanaugh seems to have a spotless reputation in adulthood, so I would like to think that all this has not ruined his reputation like Trump says.  I do believe there are women and lawyers who will make up stories that aren't true.  However, I watched a little of Ford's testimony, enough to be convinced she is telling the truth and was a person violated a long time ago who tried her best to keep it quiet. I give the Republicans some credit for even having heard her out.  I guess its not the Holocaust just yet.  We still have that blessed freedom of speech. 
    Well now we have a woman saying he was sexually aggressive in the 2000s, so... yeah.
    When did this come out? Is this a 5th accuser?
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    njnancy said:
    Do these Republican Senators realize how horrible they sound. Graham's 'outrage' is nauseating. 
    They are trying to make this about the process, rather than the accusation.  A noble attempt I suppose but it's a stretch. 
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,951
    edited September 2018
    njnancy said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    pickupyourwill said:
    I thought Chris Matthews made a good point on Meet the Press this past Sunday morning.  He said that Ford had a right as a good, responsible citizen to come forward about what happened.  He said it is in the public's best interest to know of any such flaws of a man, that if gone undetected and kept silent, could still manifest in the future.  Just because you sweep all those teenage problems under the rug doesn't mean that some darkness of that character is still not there.  I am paraphrasing all this, of course.  This is my take on it.  Kavanaugh seems to have a spotless reputation in adulthood, so I would like to think that all this has not ruined his reputation like Trump says.  I do believe there are women and lawyers who will make up stories that aren't true.  However, I watched a little of Ford's testimony, enough to be convinced she is telling the truth and was a person violated a long time ago who tried her best to keep it quiet. I give the Republicans some credit for even having heard her out.  I guess its not the Holocaust just yet.  We still have that blessed freedom of speech. 
    Well now we have a woman saying he was sexually aggressive in the 2000s, so... yeah.
    When did this come out? Is this a 5th accuser?
    I don't even know now. But some woman has claimed that he pushed her up against a wall in a sexually aggressive manner in a bar when he was drunk, or something like that. I just saw that yesterday I think (edit: oh sorry, it allegedly happened in 1998).
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    Yes that came out last night but from a totally anonymous source....
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