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    Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 16,820
    I mean there is a 0% chance this dude gets confirmed in 2018, right?
    I don't hold out hope for anything anymore. This is all complete garbage that we're even here. She remembers exactly who it was, what exactly happened to her - at this point there is no other point of this shit than to discredit her, which is inevitable.

    This world is a fucking nightmare.

    I may get fired today if I hear these two fucking Faux News yokels in my aisle at work demean this shit.
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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,627
    I mean there is a 0% chance this dude gets confirmed in 2018, right?
    I don't hold out hope for anything anymore. This is all complete garbage that we're even here. She remembers exactly who it was, what exactly happened to her - at this point there is no other point of this shit than to discredit her, which is inevitable.

    This world is a fucking nightmare.

    I may get fired today if I hear these two fucking Faux News yokels in my aisle at work demean this shit.
    This is so fucking sick.  Everything about it.
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    Nothing like a doddering old fool leading a show trial. Who pissed in Grassley’s corn flakes?
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    Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 16,820
    After watching that 'Reversing Roe' doc on Netflix last night, and this, just reiterates it - facts do not matter, science does not matter, integrity does not matter. All that matters is politics. The nine most important, and influential, people in the "greatest" nation of the world are designated based on political movements and not a nonpartisan, unbiased process. Complete and utter fucking garbage.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,798
    I mean there is a 0% chance this dude gets confirmed in 2018, right?
    I don't hold out hope for anything anymore. This is all complete garbage that we're even here. She remembers exactly who it was, what exactly happened to her - at this point there is no other point of this shit than to discredit her, which is inevitable.

    This world is a fucking nightmare.

    I may get fired today if I hear these two fucking Faux News yokels in my aisle at work demean this shit.
    This is so fucking sick.  Everything about it.
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    njnancynjnancy Northern New Jersey Posts: 5,096
    njnancy said:
    This poor fucking woman.  This country sucks.
    She looks absolutely terrified. 
    Horrible. Got choked up.  
    I had to pause the TV for about 5 minutes and I anticipate having to do so again. 
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,312
    You know what, it's good that everyone can see how sexual assault accusations are really handled in a court in this country. Listening to that prosecutor question her should make it clear to everyone why so many women do not come forward.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,798
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    njnancynjnancy Northern New Jersey Posts: 5,096
    tbergs said:
    You know what, it's good that everyone can see how sexual assault accusations are really handled in a court in this country. Listening to that prosecutor question her should make it clear to everyone why so many women do not come forward.
    And 99% of rape cases that go to trial end in a not guilty verdict. 
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,304
    Nothing like a doddering old fool leading a show trial. Who pissed in Grassley’s corn flakes?
    He knows this is a disaster for them.
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,312
    dignin said:
    Nothing like a doddering old fool leading a show trial. Who pissed in Grassley’s corn flakes?
    He knows this is a disaster for them.
    Well, he comes off as a pissed off curmudgeon who doesn't have the time to be bothered by all this. I found it very telling how he made sure not to address Dr. Ford after her opening statement about what occurred. How do you not acknowledge that horrible story she just recounted? You know how, when you don't fucking care!
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 16,820
    Can someone explain to me why Mark Judge hasn't testified or hasn't been heard from? If I'm missing something please let me know. Otherwise, as I see it, someone's being held in a fucking bunker until Fuckface's nomination is confirmed.
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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,627
    Can someone explain to me why Mark Judge hasn't testified or hasn't been heard from? If I'm missing something please let me know. Otherwise, as I see it, someone's being held in a fucking bunker until Fuckface's nomination is confirmed.
    Because it's not about getting the truth
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,312
    Can someone explain to me why Mark Judge hasn't testified or hasn't been heard from? If I'm missing something please let me know. Otherwise, as I see it, someone's being held in a fucking bunker until Fuckface's nomination is confirmed.
    How a confirmation could even happen without Judge's testimony is insane. Completely fucking insane.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    njnancynjnancy Northern New Jersey Posts: 5,096
    Can someone explain to me why Mark Judge hasn't testified or hasn't been heard from? If I'm missing something please let me know. Otherwise, as I see it, someone's being held in a fucking bunker until Fuckface's nomination is confirmed.
    He's in hiding at the beach, reporters have found him so I'm sure the FBI could easily do so. But 45 would have to ask for that and there is 0% chance of that.
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,041
    njnancy said:
    tbergs said:
    You know what, it's good that everyone can see how sexual assault accusations are really handled in a court in this country. Listening to that prosecutor question her should make it clear to everyone why so many women do not come forward.
    And 99% of rape cases that go to trial end in a not guilty verdict. 
    I found that stat interesting, so I looked it up. This is what I found:
    It looks like about half of rape trails end in convictions.
      
    But only about about 2% of cases reported to police end in convictions. Your figure reflects reported cases, not trials. Most just never make it to trial. 
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,312
    mace1229 said:
    njnancy said:
    tbergs said:
    You know what, it's good that everyone can see how sexual assault accusations are really handled in a court in this country. Listening to that prosecutor question her should make it clear to everyone why so many women do not come forward.
    And 99% of rape cases that go to trial end in a not guilty verdict. 
    I found that stat interesting, so I looked it up. This is what I found:
    It looks like about half of rape trails end in convictions.
      
    But only about about 2% of cases reported to police end in convictions. Your figure reflects reported cases, not trials. Most just never make it to trial. 
    But yet only between 2% - 10% of reported sexual assault cases are classified as either a false allegation or baseless. Our country fucking sucks at fixing the rape culture.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,627
    I don't think those maps and this prosecution approach is what the GOP wants to be taken away from this...
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,312
    I don't think those maps and this prosecution approach is what the GOP wants to be taken away from this...
    It's so fucking weird. Everything is backwards. They are prosecuting someone claiming to be a victim. There should be a prosecutor to ask Kavanaugh his questions as well. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    njnancynjnancy Northern New Jersey Posts: 5,096
    edited September 2018
    tbergs said:
    mace1229 said:
    njnancy said:
    tbergs said:
    You know what, it's good that everyone can see how sexual assault accusations are really handled in a court in this country. Listening to that prosecutor question her should make it clear to everyone why so many women do not come forward.
    And 99% of rape cases that go to trial end in a not guilty verdict. 
    I found that stat interesting, so I looked it up. This is what I found:
    It looks like about half of rape trails end in convictions.
      
    But only about about 2% of cases reported to police end in convictions. Your figure reflects reported cases, not trials. Most just never make it to trial. 
    But yet only between 2% - 10% of reported sexual assault cases are classified as either a false allegation or baseless. Our country fucking sucks at fixing the rape culture.
    Excuse me, 99% of reported rape cases end in no rape conviction. Plea deals for lesser offenses are pushed. Now if this had been an African American male who had been accused ........no wait, I just realized the idiocy of my statement.
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    RYMERYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
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    RYME said:
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    njnancynjnancy Northern New Jersey Posts: 5,096
    tbergs said:
    I don't think those maps and this prosecution approach is what the GOP wants to be taken away from this...
    It's so fucking weird. Everything is backwards. They are prosecuting someone claiming to be a victim. There should be a prosecutor to ask Kavanaugh his questions as well. 
    The way they are proceeding with this - having to stop every 5 minutes to go between a prosecutor and a Senator is extremely disconcerting to me. I can't imagine how she is dealing with the ham-handed format. 
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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,627
    HOLY SHIT. THEY ARE SAYING SHE IS LYING BECAUSE SHE SAID SHE DOESN'T LIKE FLYING AND SHE FLEW
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    mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,393
    njnancy said:
    tbergs said:
    I don't think those maps and this prosecution approach is what the GOP wants to be taken away from this...
    It's so fucking weird. Everything is backwards. They are prosecuting someone claiming to be a victim. There should be a prosecutor to ask Kavanaugh his questions as well. 
    The way they are proceeding with this - having to stop every 5 minutes to go between a prosecutor and a Senator is extremely disconcerting to me. I can't imagine how she is dealing with the ham-handed format. 
    Yeah, it seems very odd to me as well. 
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,312
    RYME said:
    Smellyman said:
    RYME said:
    El O El
    EIEIO and on his farm he had a jackass EIEIO.  Why don't you read it Smelly,  you might actually learn something
    Interesting that your take on his nonsense doesn't actually question the integrity of the candidates being completely unequal which has led to issues with nominees, but instead placing blame on the other party.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,304
    HOLY SHIT. THEY ARE SAYING SHE IS LYING BECAUSE SHE SAID SHE DOESN'T LIKE FLYING AND SHE FLEW
    Their shit is real weak.
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,312
    Every time Mitchell gets a turn she reminds me more and more of Sarah Huckabee-Sanders, especially when she tries to make an awkward joke based on the question she asked trying to back Dr. Ford in to a corner.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    Realizing there would need to be a Constitutional Amendment change to make this happen, but would you liberals allow this scenario in this order:

    1)  Appoint Judge Kavanaugh immediately.
    2)  Do complete FBI investigation - if proven guilty, he is removed and we start over again.  If not guilty, life goes on
    So this is a Liberal & conservative issue not a human issue ...
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    njnancynjnancy Northern New Jersey Posts: 5,096
    HOLY SHIT. THEY ARE SAYING SHE IS LYING BECAUSE SHE SAID SHE DOESN'T LIKE FLYING AND SHE FLEW
    I am behind by about 25 minutes. Knowing this is coming may have me watching this into the evening.
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,312
    Jesus christ, they are stalling on allowing the polygraph, but if it had shown she was lying they would take it in a heartbeat.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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