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 I’m squarely in the the:PJ_Soul said:
 Well everyone is so willing to jump down anyone's throat for anything around here lately, but nobody said a word about that, so I assumed everyone was cool with it.cincybearcat said:
 ummm mkay? Not sure why you’d assume everyone is cool with that. But really it’s between them. It seemed like a bad attempt at a joke to me. But again not sure why you think people are cool with it or have any opinion on it.PJ_Soul said:So PJPOWER basically made a snide remark about Halifax being a pedophile, and everyone's cool with that? Mkay...
 Seemed like a joke, it’s between them, I’m not likely to get involved in defending Halifax corner hippiemom = goodness0 hippiemom = goodness0
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 Please point out to me where I expressed how I feel about the way the kid looks at another person. And who’s triggered?PJPOWER said:
 Well, when people feel that the way a high school kid “looks at” another person should make national news, the bar is set pretty low for them and there is probably little that is not crazy triggering.cincybearcat said:
 ummm mkay? Not sure why you’d assume everyone is cool with that. But really it’s between them. It seemed like a bad attempt at a joke to me. But again not sure why you think people are cool with it or have any opinion on it.PJ_Soul said:So PJPOWER basically made a snide remark about Halifax being a pedophile, and everyone's cool with that? Mkay...
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            PJPOWER said:
 Well, when people feel that the way a high school kid “looks at” another person should make national news, the bar is set pretty low for them and there is probably little that is not crazy triggering.cincybearcat said:
 ummm mkay? Not sure why you’d assume everyone is cool with that. But really it’s between them. It seemed like a bad attempt at a joke to me. But again not sure why you think people are cool with it or have any opinion on it.PJ_Soul said:So PJPOWER basically made a snide remark about Halifax being a pedophile, and everyone's cool with that? Mkay...
 Hey I'm pretty sure it was the entire event culminating in that smug little shit looking like a shithead as an elderly native man was reduced to trash."My brain's a good brain!"0
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 I wasn’t really specifically talking about you when I said “people”.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Please point out to me where I expressed how I feel about the way the kid looks at another person. And who’s triggered?PJPOWER said:
 Well, when people feel that the way a high school kid “looks at” another person should make national news, the bar is set pretty low for them and there is probably little that is not crazy triggering.cincybearcat said:
 ummm mkay? Not sure why you’d assume everyone is cool with that. But really it’s between them. It seemed like a bad attempt at a joke to me. But again not sure why you think people are cool with it or have any opinion on it.PJ_Soul said:So PJPOWER basically made a snide remark about Halifax being a pedophile, and everyone's cool with that? Mkay...
 Hypocrite much?
 narcissistic much?0
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 Well, your comment followed an offensive comment or two directed at me, how was I to know?PJPOWER said:
 I wasn’t really specifically talking about you when I said “people”.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Please point out to me where I expressed how I feel about the way the kid looks at another person. And who’s triggered?PJPOWER said:
 Well, when people feel that the way a high school kid “looks at” another person should make national news, the bar is set pretty low for them and there is probably little that is not crazy triggering.cincybearcat said:
 ummm mkay? Not sure why you’d assume everyone is cool with that. But really it’s between them. It seemed like a bad attempt at a joke to me. But again not sure why you think people are cool with it or have any opinion on it.PJ_Soul said:So PJPOWER basically made a snide remark about Halifax being a pedophile, and everyone's cool with that? Mkay...
 Hypocrite much?
 narcissistic much?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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 Reading comprehension?Halifax2TheMax said:
 Well, your comment followed an offensive comment or two directed at me, how was I to know?PJPOWER said:
 I wasn’t really specifically talking about you when I said “people”.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Please point out to me where I expressed how I feel about the way the kid looks at another person. And who’s triggered?PJPOWER said:
 Well, when people feel that the way a high school kid “looks at” another person should make national news, the bar is set pretty low for them and there is probably little that is not crazy triggering.cincybearcat said:
 ummm mkay? Not sure why you’d assume everyone is cool with that. But really it’s between them. It seemed like a bad attempt at a joke to me. But again not sure why you think people are cool with it or have any opinion on it.PJ_Soul said:So PJPOWER basically made a snide remark about Halifax being a pedophile, and everyone's cool with that? Mkay...
 Hypocrite much?
 narcissistic much?0
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            Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
 What are you suggesting? Are you suggesting Halifax is a member of the clergy?PJPOWER said:
 I bet you do “prefer privileged catholic school boys”...Halifax2TheMax said:
 The debate is tired and old. Much prefer privileged catholic school boys, Native American drummers and black, Israelite Jews.PJPOWER said:Crickets...I figured people around here would be giddily exuberant over the news of New York passing this...PJPOWER said:
 This is true...hmmmcincybearcat said:
 He does seem obsessed with piss porn.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
 What are you suggesting? Are you suggesting Halifax is a member of the clergy?PJPOWER said:
 I bet you do “prefer privileged catholic school boys”...Halifax2TheMax said:
 The debate is tired and old. Much prefer privileged catholic school boys, Native American drummers and black, Israelite Jews.PJPOWER said:Crickets...I figured people around here would be giddily exuberant over the news of New York passing this...
 ?PJPOWER said:
 Reading comprehension?Halifax2TheMax said:
 Well, your comment followed an offensive comment or two directed at me, how was I to know?PJPOWER said:
 I wasn’t really specifically talking about you when I said “people”.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Please point out to me where I expressed how I feel about the way the kid looks at another person. And who’s triggered?PJPOWER said:
 Well, when people feel that the way a high school kid “looks at” another person should make national news, the bar is set pretty low for them and there is probably little that is not crazy triggering.cincybearcat said:
 ummm mkay? Not sure why you’d assume everyone is cool with that. But really it’s between them. It seemed like a bad attempt at a joke to me. But again not sure why you think people are cool with it or have any opinion on it.PJ_Soul said:So PJPOWER basically made a snide remark about Halifax being a pedophile, and everyone's cool with that? Mkay...
 Hypocrite much?
 narcissistic much?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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 Nice try, lol There was a good point made about being obsessed with a Ptape...but I didn’t make it.Halifax2TheMax said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
 What are you suggesting? Are you suggesting Halifax is a member of the clergy?PJPOWER said:
 I bet you do “prefer privileged catholic school boys”...Halifax2TheMax said:
 The debate is tired and old. Much prefer privileged catholic school boys, Native American drummers and black, Israelite Jews.PJPOWER said:Crickets...I figured people around here would be giddily exuberant over the news of New York passing this...PJPOWER said:
 This is true...hmmmcincybearcat said:
 He does seem obsessed with piss porn.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
 What are you suggesting? Are you suggesting Halifax is a member of the clergy?PJPOWER said:
 I bet you do “prefer privileged catholic school boys”...Halifax2TheMax said:
 The debate is tired and old. Much prefer privileged catholic school boys, Native American drummers and black, Israelite Jews.PJPOWER said:Crickets...I figured people around here would be giddily exuberant over the news of New York passing this...
 ?PJPOWER said:
 Reading comprehension?Halifax2TheMax said:
 Well, your comment followed an offensive comment or two directed at me, how was I to know?PJPOWER said:
 I wasn’t really specifically talking about you when I said “people”.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Please point out to me where I expressed how I feel about the way the kid looks at another person. And who’s triggered?PJPOWER said:
 Well, when people feel that the way a high school kid “looks at” another person should make national news, the bar is set pretty low for them and there is probably little that is not crazy triggering.cincybearcat said:
 ummm mkay? Not sure why you’d assume everyone is cool with that. But really it’s between them. It seemed like a bad attempt at a joke to me. But again not sure why you think people are cool with it or have any opinion on it.PJ_Soul said:So PJPOWER basically made a snide remark about Halifax being a pedophile, and everyone's cool with that? Mkay...
 Hypocrite much?
 narcissistic much? 
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 But you did make a previous comment, correct?PJPOWER said:
 Nice try, lol There was a good point made about being obsessed with a Ptape...but I didn’t make it.Halifax2TheMax said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
 What are you suggesting? Are you suggesting Halifax is a member of the clergy?PJPOWER said:
 I bet you do “prefer privileged catholic school boys”...Halifax2TheMax said:
 The debate is tired and old. Much prefer privileged catholic school boys, Native American drummers and black, Israelite Jews.PJPOWER said:Crickets...I figured people around here would be giddily exuberant over the news of New York passing this...PJPOWER said:
 This is true...hmmmcincybearcat said:
 He does seem obsessed with piss porn.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
 What are you suggesting? Are you suggesting Halifax is a member of the clergy?PJPOWER said:
 I bet you do “prefer privileged catholic school boys”...Halifax2TheMax said:
 The debate is tired and old. Much prefer privileged catholic school boys, Native American drummers and black, Israelite Jews.PJPOWER said:Crickets...I figured people around here would be giddily exuberant over the news of New York passing this...
 ?PJPOWER said:
 Reading comprehension?Halifax2TheMax said:
 Well, your comment followed an offensive comment or two directed at me, how was I to know?PJPOWER said:
 I wasn’t really specifically talking about you when I said “people”.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Please point out to me where I expressed how I feel about the way the kid looks at another person. And who’s triggered?PJPOWER said:
 Well, when people feel that the way a high school kid “looks at” another person should make national news, the bar is set pretty low for them and there is probably little that is not crazy triggering.cincybearcat said:
 ummm mkay? Not sure why you’d assume everyone is cool with that. But really it’s between them. It seemed like a bad attempt at a joke to me. But again not sure why you think people are cool with it or have any opinion on it.PJ_Soul said:So PJPOWER basically made a snide remark about Halifax being a pedophile, and everyone's cool with that? Mkay...
 Hypocrite much?
 narcissistic much? 
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 Bud I am pro-choice but this new law seems pretty fucked up. You can abort a six pound \ baby right before it is born? Ugh I am not liking this at all.PJPOWER said:Crickets...I figured people around here would be giddily exuberant over the news of New York passing this...
 And yes, Cuomo is a piece of shit. Don't brag you are catholic then all of a sudden pass this law.:A bishop in Albany, New York, called out Gov. Andrew Cuomo for citing his Catholic faith and supporting recent legislation that legalizes abortion up until birth. Cuomo (D) signed the Reproductive Health Act on Tuesday, which he called "a historic victory for New Yorkers and for our progressive values." Days earlier, though, the governor touted his Catholic faith during his ninth State of the State address. In an open letter to Cuomo, Albany Bishop Rev. Edward B. Scharfenberger said it was "very difficult to understand" how the governor can cite his faith, yet advocate for such a "profoundly destructive legislation." I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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            I thought the New York law was only if the mother's life was at risk or is that wrong? Seems like it could be abused for sure with the right doctor but I know if my wife's life was at risk and we were 35 weeks in I would opt for the abortion if the risk was that great. That is if there was no other way around it like a C section for example. At the end of the day it would be her call but I know what I would want.0
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 Agree with you there. However The law is very vague. It should be life or death but From what I am reading the mother could say she is financially destroyed or not mentally capable to have the child and legally could abort a day before her birth date. Imagine aborting a seven pound child because you aren’t financially ready?PJNB said:I thought the New York law was only if the mother's life was at risk or is that wrong? Seems like it could be abused for sure with the right doctor but I know if my wife's life was at risk and we were 35 weeks in I would opt for the abortion if the risk was that great. That is if there was no other way around it like a C section for example. At the end of the day it would be her call but I know what I would want.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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 Ya that is fucked up for sure. I just talked to my wife about this and we feel like it has good intentions to save the women obviously but looks like it could be easily abused as you said. There is always adoption as we all know especially if you are already that late in the trimester and your life is not at risk.mcgruff10 said:
 Agree with you there. However The law is very vague. It should be life or death but From what I am reading the mother could say she is financially destroyed or not mentally capable to have the child and legally could abort a day before her birth date. Imagine aborting a seven pound child because you aren’t financially ready?PJNB said:I thought the New York law was only if the mother's life was at risk or is that wrong? Seems like it could be abused for sure with the right doctor but I know if my wife's life was at risk and we were 35 weeks in I would opt for the abortion if the risk was that great. That is if there was no other way around it like a C section for example. At the end of the day it would be her call but I know what I would want.
 I go back and forth on pro life and pro choice myself and see arguments that I agree with on both sides. One stat that is incredibly sobering to me is that out of every 1400 recorded pregnancies roughly 400 were legally aborted in 2015 in NY. That is an insanely high number to me.0
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            Part of the problem with today’s political climate is folks claiming things or not understanding/comprehending what the issue is or means. I know it’s snopes and it’s an oversimplification but I don’t believe the NY law will allow a woman to carry a fetus to within a day of birth and then abort it for financial reasons. Health of the woman or lack of viability of the fetus after 24 weeks.
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            Doing anything for your child should mean willing to die for them too.Pittsburgh 2013
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            drakeheuer14 said:Doing anything for your child should mean willing to die for them too.
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 Nope. And that doesnt matter with what I said.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:drakeheuer14 said:Doing anything for your child should mean willing to die for them too.
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 I mean I am willing to die for my kids no doubt. They need a heart and mine matches then bye bye me. I m not sure if I understand what you are saying.drakeheuer14 said:
 Nope. And that doesnt matter with what I said.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:drakeheuer14 said:Doing anything for your child should mean willing to die for them too.
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 Seems by changing the word “life” to “health” as it relates to women’s pregnancy after the 24th week, the courts have previously ruled that “health” can include finances, mental well being and other factors. However, that said, I highly doubt a woman could walk into a facility a day before giving birth and “demand” an abortion for financial reasons. I suppose she could but I doubt the facility would perform it. There’s typically medical evaluation, counseling and a waiting period, blood tests, etc. that occur. Sounds like the extreme is being loudly broadcast by the pro-life crowd. Maybe that fella that exposed ACORN could knock up some chick and take her to a NY State abortion provider in her ninth month and try to get an abortion? You know, sacrifice one for the cause?Halifax2TheMax said:Part of the problem with today’s political climate is folks claiming things or not understanding/comprehending what the issue is or means. I know it’s snopes and it’s an oversimplification but I don’t believe the NY law will allow a woman to carry a fetus to within a day of birth and then abort it for financial reasons. Health of the woman or lack of viability of the fetus after 24 weeks.
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