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I think London will be after Imola but before Paris.
So BST is set in stone and the only UK show at this point?
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
amsterdam pinkpop copenhagen berlin london stockholm prague werchter imola vienna zurich lodz budapest ljubljana lisbon paris
I think London will be after Imola but before Paris.
So BST is set in stone and the only UK show at this point?
Dimi said show after Imola is indoor
Rock Werchter 4 july - 2010, Arras 3 july - 2010, Berlin Wuhlheide - June 30, 2010, Odyssey arena Belfast - 23 june 2010, O2 arena Dublin - june 22 2010, O2 arena London - Aug 18, 2009, Manchester Evening News Arena - Aug 17, 2009, Berlin Wuhlheide - Aug 15, 2009, Copenhagen 2007-06-26 Forum, London 2007-06-18 Wembley Arena, Prague 2006-09-22 Sazka Arena, Denmark 2000-06-30 Roskilde Festival, Stockholm on August 12th Mirrorball tour with Neil Young, Oslo 1993-06-27 Isle of Calf Festival(Kalvoya), Oslo Secret Club Concert 1993-06-26 Sentrum Scene
if you don't like mosh pits, congrats, you just had your 1990-2000 card revoked.
You can no longer listen to any live recordings from that time period, you certainly can't buy the new vault, and you may as well stay home on record store day..
Seriously though, you don't like pure unadulterated ENERGY?
"Some peoples "fun" are other, normal, peoples "get the fuck out of there with that shit behaviour".
"normal people." lol. Like everyone wasn't jumping, crowd surfing, and moshing every single night in this bands early days.
Some people never got to see the band and jump around like that was the pinnacle of their life in the early 90's. Why do you think more and more bands go to Europe these days? why do you think all the heavy metal and hard rock festivals in the great ol US of A have died out in this decade, but European festivals that are predominantly rock or metal have lived on since the 70's?!
what's that meme "Pearl Jam, I'm tired....." Have some fun and stop trying to dictate the energy a live crowd gives off. If you already have a defeatist or "anti" mindset, you've already lost.
What size “evenbro” shirt do you wear? i mean seriously, 2000 was nearly two decades ago. People change. Sorry you are stuck in that decade.
And like everyone else on this site, my point went totally over your head. And thats fine, because I know you are only here to fight. So i'll try to simplify this and put it in the easiest terms I can so you can understand it. And Medium, but sometimes large depending on the brand of shirt. Funny because I wear a small jacket, so all my sizes are fucked. Just thought I'd let you know since you asked.
"PeOpLe ChAnGe"... lol you are saying this after a video of a bunch of crazy germans moshing to Lukin LAST YEAR. 2018. Listen, if you think moshing is a bunch of roided up freaks trying to fight, you're already on the "i don't know what the fuck i'm talking about" side of the spectrum. It's a release of energy. Something you probably wouldn't know about because the only energy release you seem to do is spewing bullshit from your fingers to the web.
Yes, 2000 was 20 years ago. Not once did I say I was stuck in that decade. My point was more or less to say America is a bunch of pussies and I can see why there are bigger GA pits and access to tickets in Europe. So that there can be room for these types of releases of energy. God forbid we start a pit in America and someone looses they're precious poster. Maybe people do grow up, yes. But I don't think the average age of a PJ fan is one that can't handle themselves in a concert setting.
Good try on trying to demean my comment to one blow-off sentence that you thought was going to be a "zinger."
I ve been in my fair share of mosh pits back in the day but times change. My 42 year old self looks back at some of the stuff I used to do and I just shake my head. You enjoy your mosh pit.
But the kids going to shows today are you then, not you now.
(times change though. If you wanna mosh pit go to the back of the pit or to the side and do your cringey roleplay of living in the early 90s)
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
Pits are cool as long as everyone in them is cool. If you get the dudes swinging arms, throwing leg kicks, or barreling into people who aren't looking, it kills the vibe for most everyone else. There's no objectively correct answer here.
Pits are cool as long as everyone in them is cool. If you get the dudes swinging arms, throwing leg kicks, or barreling into people who aren't looking, it kills the vibe for most everyone else. There's no objectively correct answer here.
Respecting people around you and their enjoyment of the show is the correct answer.
As heartbreaker Billy said about in 1996 while looking forward to some No Code shows with his buddy Stu:
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Last year in Prague was my first PJ show in Europe. I noticed that the GA fan club area in front of the stage was a lot more tightly packed than at similar shows in the US. It was so crowded that beer wasn't allowed into that area, presumably because of the inevitability of every beer being spilled. So I could understand wanting to have a seat and a beer. Is this crowding/beer situation similar at other shows in Europe?
No Prague was unusual as it had the 10c section in the front half that doesnt usually happen you can usually move back to a less crowded part and have a beer
Prague was unusual because of where you enter the floor standing area. We arrived quite late due to family commitments. Next to the entrance was so tightly packed but as we move forward down Mike's side there was so much room. I was about 20 people back and could literally move around without touching anybody. It was amazing!
2010: London 2012: Manchester I, Manchester II, Manchester (EV) 2014: Milan, Leeds, Milton Keynes 2017: London II (EV) 2018: Amsterdam I, London I, Prague, London II 2019: London (EV) 2022: London I, London II, Budapest, Krakow, Amsterdam
.... and back to talking about/surmising/hoping for shows.
Please.
2009 - Manchester. 2010 - Dublin, Belfast, London, Berlin, Arras, Werchter. 2011 - PJ20 i & ii, Montreal, Toronto i & ii, Ottawa, Hamilton. 2012 - Manchester i & ii, Berlin i & ii, Stockholm. 2014 - Amsterdam i & ii, Trieste, Vienna, Berlin, Leeds, Milton Keynes. 2016 - Boston Fenway i & ii, 2018 - Amsterdam i & ii, Pinkpop, London i & ii, Padova, Krakow, Barcelona, Seattle i & ii.
Last year in Prague was my first PJ show in Europe. I noticed that the GA fan club area in front of the stage was a lot more tightly packed than at similar shows in the US. It was so crowded that beer wasn't allowed into that area, presumably because of the inevitability of every beer being spilled. So I could understand wanting to have a seat and a beer. Is this crowding/beer situation similar at other shows in Europe?
No Prague was unusual as it had the 10c section in the front half that doesnt usually happen you can usually move back to a less crowded part and have a beer
Prague was unusual because of where you enter the floor standing area. We arrived quite late due to family commitments. Next to the entrance was so tightly packed but as we move forward down Mike's side there was so much room. I was about 20 people back and could literally move around without touching anybody. It was amazing!
That's a general rule of thumb: If you enter any given crowd area from one side. There's always much more room on the opposite side.
Is it too crazy to dream that RATM or Foo fighters headline one of the Euro Festivals with PJ??
Its not too crazy for Rock Werchter.
Rock Werchter 4 july - 2010, Arras 3 july - 2010, Berlin Wuhlheide - June 30, 2010, Odyssey arena Belfast - 23 june 2010, O2 arena Dublin - june 22 2010, O2 arena London - Aug 18, 2009, Manchester Evening News Arena - Aug 17, 2009, Berlin Wuhlheide - Aug 15, 2009, Copenhagen 2007-06-26 Forum, London 2007-06-18 Wembley Arena, Prague 2006-09-22 Sazka Arena, Denmark 2000-06-30 Roskilde Festival, Stockholm on August 12th Mirrorball tour with Neil Young, Oslo 1993-06-27 Isle of Calf Festival(Kalvoya), Oslo Secret Club Concert 1993-06-26 Sentrum Scene
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I've been to Imola and I know it's tiny, but who's been booking hotels around July 5th? Own up, because there's virtually nothing around July 5th.
2012 – Manchester II 2014 – Amsterdam I & II, Gdynia, Leeds, Milton Keynes 2016 – Wrigley I & II 2017 – Amsterdam III [EV] 2018 – London I, Padova, Rome, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Barcelona, Madrid, Wrigley I & II 2019 – Dublin [EV] 2022 – Copenhagen, Hyde Park I, St. Louis 2023 – Chicago I & II
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RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
(times change though. If you wanna mosh pit go to the back of the pit or to the side and do your cringey roleplay of living in the early 90s)
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
Spicy three are last non-festival shows:
Q: Are the 3 arena shows the last non fest shows of the tour?
But in addition to the spicy three, there is one more semi-spicy show after Imola
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
just saying... y'all love putting people down for loving what they love. No wonder the band gives the US 7 shows in 3 years
As heartbreaker Billy said about in 1996 while looking forward to some No Code shows with his buddy Stu:
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My card aint revoked yet.
2012: Manchester I, Manchester II, Manchester (EV)
2014: Milan, Leeds, Milton Keynes
2017: London II (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I, London I, Prague, London II
2019: London (EV)
2022: London I, London II, Budapest, Krakow, Amsterdam
2012 - Manchester i & ii, Berlin i & ii, Stockholm. 2014 - Amsterdam i & ii, Trieste, Vienna, Berlin, Leeds, Milton Keynes.
2016 - Boston Fenway i & ii, 2018 - Amsterdam i & ii, Pinkpop, London i & ii, Padova, Krakow, Barcelona, Seattle i & ii.
That's a general rule of thumb: If you enter any given crowd area from one side. There's always much more room on the opposite side.
2014= Amsterdam 1&2, St. Louis, Lincoln, Detroit, Moline, Denver
2015= Mexico City
2016= Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Tampa, Jacksonville, Lexington, MSG1, Fenway1, Wrigley 2&3
2017= EV @ Ohana
2018= London 1, Boarderline, Seattle 1&2, Missoula MT, Wrigley 4&5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRGjNxGEzU8
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Maybe they have learned from last year and they do not sell beer in those 6 x holders anymore.
2014 – Amsterdam I & II, Gdynia, Leeds, Milton Keynes
2016 – Wrigley I & II
2017 – Amsterdam III [EV]
2018 – London I, Padova, Rome, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Barcelona, Madrid, Wrigley I & II
2019 – Dublin [EV]
2022 – Copenhagen, Hyde Park I, St. Louis
2023 – Chicago I & II