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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,094
    JC29856 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    unsung said:
    I despise warmongers.  He was King of the Warmongers.

    His politics directly led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, if not more.

    Bob Dylan wrote a song on the topic, perhaps you have heard it.

    Hope that clears it up.
    But at the same time you have no qualms over forever separating kids from their parents.
    I'm pretty sure carpet bombing Vietnam civilians, never opposing a single war, cheerleading and lusting for more war, overthrowing elected leaders and arming terrorists has caused a few kids permanently separated from their parents. I'm going to guess most of those patents and kids weren't doing anything illegal while they were being "separated".
    So where’s the hatred and vitriol for shrub bush and Darth Cheney? Christ, that guy was in the Nixon administration as a key cheerleader for Vietnam along with Rumsfeld, both who went on to sell chemical weapons to Iraq and then fabricate the Iraq war and sell it to the American people. And shrub in hindsight, when interviewed, wouldn’t have done one thing differently in hindsight. But one US Senator is the devil spawn? Delusional.
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    unsung said:
    I despise warmongers.  He was King of the Warmongers.

    His politics directly led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, if not more.

    Bob Dylan wrote a song on the topic, perhaps you have heard it.

    Hope that clears it up.
    But at the same time you have no qualms over forever separating kids from their parents.
    If there was ever a moral non-equivalency on this forum this is it.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,770
    JC29856 said:
    https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/do-not-let-them-make-a-saint-of-this-asshole-6626690474bc

    Do NOT Let Them Make A Saint Of This Asshole


    You will be told that you do not have permission to say such things. You have permission to say such things. You will be told that you are being impolite to John McCain’s family. The families of mass murderers are not entitled to our politeness. You will be told that you are making yourself look bad. Creating a world where neoconservative war whores experience an appropriate amount of rejection is more important than looking good. Kill their propaganda narratives with mockery and irreverence and help usher in a new world where it is no longer considered okay to be a psychopathic neocon.

    Make him a saint?  This is ridiculous. The point is not to make the man look like a saint.  Criticize the man all you want.  Most people (including here) will not object to that. 

    The point is to not gloat over a person's suffering and death.  Maybe some people think that's OK.  Not in my book.


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    -Roberto Benigni

  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    edited August 2018
    https://politics.theonion.com/john-mccain-requests-ashes-be-launched-into-iraq-1828584863

     =) 
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    but, but he's a war hero...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    John McCain is a perfect example of a person who spent his life leeching off tax papers and making other people's life's worse ... he is a war monger ... plan and simple.  This man deserves no credit.  
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,770
    Meltdown99 said:
    John McCain is a perfect example of a person who spent his life leeching off tax papers and making other people's life's worse ... he is a war monger ... plan and simple.  This man deserves no credit.  
    Who has given him credit?  Anyone here?
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Not recently.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,770
    For better or worse, he will die soon and then be forgotten.  Everything gets swept under the giant carpet that is our world today.  Hated today, gone tomorrow.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    John McCain is a perfect example of a person who spent his life leeching off tax papers and making other people's life's worse ... he is a war monger ... plan and simple.  This man deserves no credit.  
    Who has given him credit?  Anyone here?
    Post my link where I said that people on theses forums are giving him credit...sheesh...on a open forum you can post general thoughts...yes/no.  People here amaze on a daily basis.  Defensive much???
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,651

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,770
    Meltdown99 said:
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    John McCain is a perfect example of a person who spent his life leeching off tax papers and making other people's life's worse ... he is a war monger ... plan and simple.  This man deserves no credit.  
    Who has given him credit?  Anyone here?
    Post my link where I said that people on theses forums are giving him credit...sheesh...on a open forum you can post general thoughts...yes/no.  People here amaze on a daily basis.  Defensive much???
    Yes, post away!

    Defensive, nah, I don't rally have that much invested in the individual (McCain) just in the general topic of hate.

    Movin' on.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    edited August 2018
    Gloat over this mans death all you want ... he was likely gloating after the invasion of Iraq, fuck this asshole.
    Post edited by Meltdown99 on
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    the fucker is now dead...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    She looks different.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,184
    edited August 2018
    Definitely respected everything he went through during his military service. Didn’t vote for him but he was definitely a great politician. It is not everyday you see a republican call W and Trump out on various issues.  RIP Senator McCain. 
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    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    Rest in Peace
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,770
    Meltdown99 said:
    the fucker is now dead...
    Come on man.  You only lower yourself saying things like this- about anybody.  Ya know?
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,184
    Obama being classy as usual:

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,636
    mcgruff10 said:
    Obama being classy as usual:

    The above is not only an example of how to be presidential.  It's  also a prime example of being an adult and being a great American.

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