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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,120
    Oh bother, never mind.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,777
    edited August 2018
    Oh, fuck it.
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,984
    Just remember to keep it classy. It's possible to criticize someone's politics and things they've done in their lives without savaging them personally, especially on their deathbed. There are many things in someone's life...some very honorable, some abhorrent to someone with the opposite opinion. Just keep it on the high road....thank you.


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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,902
    I for one feel really bad for him and his family, and it seems like he's been dealing with the whole thing pretty well. I won't go as far to say that he truly redeemed himself in recent months, but I'll give him credit for taking a stand against some of the bullshit going on under Trump; I think it actually has had a positive impact. I wish more would follow his example. I have definitely wondered if he mustered the guts to do this because he literally had nothing to lose with a brain tumour, and if he would have towed the party line more if he had remained healthy and was still concerned about the future of his political career ... But I guess that doesn't really matter anymore.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,120
    PJ_Soul said:
    I for one feel really bad for him and his family, and it seems like he's been dealing with the whole thing pretty well. I won't go as far to say that he truly redeemed himself in recent months, but I'll give him credit for taking a stand against some of the bullshit going on under Trump; I think it actually has had a positive impact. I wish more would follow his example. I have definitely wondered if he mustered the guts to do this because he literally had nothing to lose with a brain tumour, and if he would have towed the party line more if he had remained healthy and was still concerned about the future of his political career ... But I guess that doesn't really matter anymore.
    McCain hates Team Trump Treason with every fiber of his being. Team Trump Treason wouldn't have survived bailing out of his jet fighter, nevermind the 5 years in captivity, if he could have avoided washing out of basic and having the discipline and physical stamina to fly jets off of aircraft carriers. Maybe its McCain returning to Vietnam when Clinton re-established relations that has Unsung so angry? He's never fully explained his hatred for the man, not that I've been able to discern, anyway.
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I despise warmongers.  He was King of the Warmongers.

    His politics directly led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, if not more.

    Bob Dylan wrote a song on the topic, perhaps you have heard it.

    Hope that clears it up.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Oh, I do credit him with one thing and that being the first time I ever voted 3rd party.

    There, I said something nice.  
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,120
    unsung said:
    I despise warmongers.  He was King of the Warmongers.

    His politics directly led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, if not more.

    Bob Dylan wrote a song on the topic, perhaps you have heard it.

    Hope that clears it up.
    But certainly he's not the only one. He couldn't do it alone. Why not hate all the others who voted for or supported war and the war machine? As vociferously as you do for McCain?
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    He was the head of the snake.
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    I just came here to say f*©k John McCain

    Should have resigned months ago
    Brought us Sarah Palin, which draws a direct line to our current celebrity president
    Has enjoyed a lifetime of tax payer funded healthcare, extending his life well beyond its worth, while simultaneously denying the same benefits to his fellow citizens

    Now he enjoys the comfort of being the 'voice of reason' on his deathbed. Where was that spine the rest of his political career?
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,902
    edited August 2018
    At least he had the decency to admit that the Sarah Palin move was a terrible mistake... But damn, how did he not know that at the time? Everyone else did. And given the long term impact that one move had... it just makes it so much worse.
    I have to agree about the spine thing..... But if I'm feeling generous towards a man who's dying, I'll say better late than never?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,120
    CM189191 said:
    I just came here to say f*©k John McCain

    Should have resigned months ago
    Brought us Sarah Palin, which draws a direct line to our current celebrity president
    Has enjoyed a lifetime of tax payer funded healthcare, extending his life well beyond its worth, while simultaneously denying the same benefits to his fellow citizens

    Now he enjoys the comfort of being the 'voice of reason' on his deathbed. Where was that spine the rest of his political career?
    Who do you blame for bringing us shrub Bush (avoided Vietnam via no show NG duty) Darth Cheney (7 deferments), Secretary Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz (never served)?
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    CM189191 said:
    I just came here to say f*©k John McCain

    Should have resigned months ago
    Brought us Sarah Palin, which draws a direct line to our current celebrity president
    Has enjoyed a lifetime of tax payer funded healthcare, extending his life well beyond its worth, while simultaneously denying the same benefits to his fellow citizens

    Now he enjoys the comfort of being the 'voice of reason' on his deathbed. Where was that spine the rest of his political career?
    Is he not married to one of the beer heiress's ... so it not like he even needed the taxpayer funded benefits...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    I give McCain credit, he battled brain cancer for 11 years, not an easy feat.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,091
    There’s a lot of classless people in this thread and I’m glad I’m not associated with any of them !!!
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,777
    unsung said:
    I despise warmongers.  He was King of the Warmongers.

    His politics directly led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, if not more.

    Bob Dylan wrote a song on the topic, perhaps you have heard it.

    Hope that clears it up.
    Bob would probably like this song to.  Maybe not to your liking- don't know but...


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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/do-not-let-them-make-a-saint-of-this-asshole-6626690474bc

    Do NOT Let Them Make A Saint Of This Asshole


    You will be told that you do not have permission to say such things. You have permission to say such things. You will be told that you are being impolite to John McCain’s family. The families of mass murderers are not entitled to our politeness. You will be told that you are making yourself look bad. Creating a world where neoconservative war whores experience an appropriate amount of rejection is more important than looking good. Kill their propaganda narratives with mockery and irreverence and help usher in a new world where it is no longer considered okay to be a psychopathic neocon.

  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,655
    unsung said:
    I despise warmongers.  He was King of the Warmongers.

    His politics directly led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, if not more.

    Bob Dylan wrote a song on the topic, perhaps you have heard it.

    Hope that clears it up.
    But at the same time you have no qualms over forever separating kids from their parents.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    unsung said:
    I despise warmongers.  He was King of the Warmongers.

    His politics directly led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, if not more.

    Bob Dylan wrote a song on the topic, perhaps you have heard it.

    Hope that clears it up.
    But at the same time you have no qualms over forever separating kids from their parents.
    I'm pretty sure carpet bombing Vietnam civilians, never opposing a single war, cheerleading and lusting for more war, overthrowing elected leaders and arming terrorists has caused a few kids permanently separated from their parents. I'm going to guess most of those patents and kids weren't doing anything illegal while they were being "separated".
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,655
    JC29856 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    unsung said:
    I despise warmongers.  He was King of the Warmongers.

    His politics directly led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, if not more.

    Bob Dylan wrote a song on the topic, perhaps you have heard it.

    Hope that clears it up.
    But at the same time you have no qualms over forever separating kids from their parents.
    I'm pretty sure carpet bombing Vietnam civilians, never opposing a single war, cheerleading and lusting for more war, overthrowing elected leaders and arming terrorists has caused a few kids permanently separated from their parents. I'm going to guess most of those patents and kids weren't doing anything illegal while they were being "separated".

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"

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