Christmas Single

Zod

Lost In Ohio said:

JimmyV said:

The band not recording the single is one problem. There being no communication is another. The former may be out of 10c's control, but Tim Bierman can and should do something about the latter.

They've recorded live tracks, sound checks and demos for years.

Like I said elsewhere, one 7" could come out in December consisting of two tracks from the vault on pre-sale six months later. Nowhere does it say the annual single has to be unique tracks, does it?

Orrr...soundcheck (if possible) from a show which would be the vault release the following year. Every once in a while, mix it up with a demo or a EV solo or a side project situation.

I think the best 10c singles have new music on them.  Whether it's a new song from the studio, or something the recorded during a soundcheck.   The live ones are decent, but not as good.  If they did live ones of tracks already released on other media... I think people would be disappointed.  I would be.  Already on the fence as to whether Analog is worth my extra $30usd anymore :(

PB11041

Zod said:

Lost In Ohio said:

JimmyV said:

The band not recording the single is one problem. There being no communication is another. The former may be out of 10c's control, but Tim Bierman can and should do something about the latter.

They've recorded live tracks, sound checks and demos for years.

Like I said elsewhere, one 7" could come out in December consisting of two tracks from the vault on pre-sale six months later. Nowhere does it say the annual single has to be unique tracks, does it?

Orrr...soundcheck (if possible) from a show which would be the vault release the following year. Every once in a while, mix it up with a demo or a EV solo or a side project situation.

I think the best 10c singles have new music on them.  Whether it's a new song from the studio, or something the recorded during a soundcheck.   The live ones are decent, but not as good.  If they did live ones of tracks already released on other media... I think people would be disappointed.  I would be.  Already on the fence as to whether Analog is worth my extra $30usd anymore :(

I don't mind the live tracks as long as they are going to be exclusive, it was kind of weird the year Crown and Can't help falling in Love were the single and yet the Boots were coming out for the Vegas show a few months after.  

Could have done without any of the Holiday singles ending up on Lost Dogs.  

In any event, at this stage, it would be nice to hear a HEY we know we are behind and the 2016 was way late and the 2017 is not coming in 2018 and the 2018 single is not coming in 2018 but we have a plan to make it good...

deadendp

PB11041 said:

Zod said:

Lost In Ohio said:

JimmyV said:

The band not recording the single is one problem. There being no communication is another. The former may be out of 10c's control, but Tim Bierman can and should do something about the latter.

They've recorded live tracks, sound checks and demos for years.

Like I said elsewhere, one 7" could come out in December consisting of two tracks from the vault on pre-sale six months later. Nowhere does it say the annual single has to be unique tracks, does it?

Orrr...soundcheck (if possible) from a show which would be the vault release the following year. Every once in a while, mix it up with a demo or a EV solo or a side project situation.

I think the best 10c singles have new music on them.  Whether it's a new song from the studio, or something the recorded during a soundcheck.   The live ones are decent, but not as good.  If they did live ones of tracks already released on other media... I think people would be disappointed.  I would be.  Already on the fence as to whether Analog is worth my extra $30usd anymore :(

I don't mind the live tracks as long as they are going to be exclusive, it was kind of weird the year Crown and Can't help falling in Love were the single and yet the Boots were coming out for the Vegas show a few months after.  

Could have done without any of the Holiday singles ending up on Lost Dogs.  

In any event, at this stage, it would be nice to hear a HEY we know we are behind and the 2016 was way late and the 2017 is not coming in 2018 and the 2018 single is not coming in 2018 but we have a plan to make it good...

+1 

HesCalledDyer

PB11041 said:

Zod said:

Lost In Ohio said:

JimmyV said:

The band not recording the single is one problem. There being no communication is another. The former may be out of 10c's control, but Tim Bierman can and should do something about the latter.

They've recorded live tracks, sound checks and demos for years.

Like I said elsewhere, one 7" could come out in December consisting of two tracks from the vault on pre-sale six months later. Nowhere does it say the annual single has to be unique tracks, does it?

Orrr...soundcheck (if possible) from a show which would be the vault release the following year. Every once in a while, mix it up with a demo or a EV solo or a side project situation.

I think the best 10c singles have new music on them.  Whether it's a new song from the studio, or something the recorded during a soundcheck.   The live ones are decent, but not as good.  If they did live ones of tracks already released on other media... I think people would be disappointed.  I would be.  Already on the fence as to whether Analog is worth my extra $30usd anymore :(

I don't mind the live tracks as long as they are going to be exclusive, it was kind of weird the year Crown and Can't help falling in Love were the single and yet the Boots were coming out for the Vegas show a few months after.  

Could have done without any of the Holiday singles ending up on Lost Dogs.  

In any event, at this stage, it would be nice to hear a HEY we know we are behind and the 2016 was way late and the 2017 is not coming in 2018 and the 2018 single is not coming in 2018 but we have a plan to make it good...

They said something to that effect with the 2016 single.  "We apologize for the long wait but we've put together something special we think you will like."  We got a stencil and "2017" single.

brewdog123

they are stealing money at this point

Wma31394

Someone call the cops...

brewdog123

i think if you add up all the analog members over 3 years that paid extra for vinyl it would add up to a pretty penny, and nothing to show for it....they keep piling up years..maybe the cops are an order

Kearn5y

I dont think they really give a shit and are quite happy to take the money. Going on for years now along with the our constant complaints about it and they dont even acknowledge that. 

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Kearn5y said:

I dont think they really give a shit and are quite happy to take the money. Going on for years now along with the our constant complaints about it and they dont even acknowledge that. 

It's quite obvious they don't give a shit.

RP112579

HesCalledDyer said:

PB11041 said:

Zod said:

Lost In Ohio said:

JimmyV said:

The band not recording the single is one problem. There being no communication is another. The former may be out of 10c's control, but Tim Bierman can and should do something about the latter.

They've recorded live tracks, sound checks and demos for years.

Like I said elsewhere, one 7" could come out in December consisting of two tracks from the vault on pre-sale six months later. Nowhere does it say the annual single has to be unique tracks, does it?

Orrr...soundcheck (if possible) from a show which would be the vault release the following year. Every once in a while, mix it up with a demo or a EV solo or a side project situation.

I think the best 10c singles have new music on them.  Whether it's a new song from the studio, or something the recorded during a soundcheck.   The live ones are decent, but not as good.  If they did live ones of tracks already released on other media... I think people would be disappointed.  I would be.  Already on the fence as to whether Analog is worth my extra $30usd anymore :(

I don't mind the live tracks as long as they are going to be exclusive, it was kind of weird the year Crown and Can't help falling in Love were the single and yet the Boots were coming out for the Vegas show a few months after.  

Could have done without any of the Holiday singles ending up on Lost Dogs.  

In any event, at this stage, it would be nice to hear a HEY we know we are behind and the 2016 was way late and the 2017 is not coming in 2018 and the 2018 single is not coming in 2018 but we have a plan to make it good...

They said something to that effect with the 2016 single.  "We apologize for the long wait but we've put together something special we think you will like."  We got a stencil and "2017" single.

This is why "communication" won't matter. Any update they give won't be good enough. The complaining won't stop. It'll just turn into "The update wasn't good enough" complaining.

RS65573

Well its NOT good enough. I'm due to renew in Jan, dropping to digital only. 25 year fanclub member. Its just not cool.

HesCalledDyer

RS65573 said:

Well its NOT good enough. I'm due to renew in Jan, dropping to digital only. 25 year fanclub member. Its just not cool.

Exactly.  It shouldn't be good enough.  Deliver the damn goods when promised!

RS65573

HesCalledDyer said:

RS65573 said:

Well its NOT good enough. I'm due to renew in Jan, dropping to digital only. 25 year fanclub member. Its just not cool.

Exactly.  It shouldn't be good enough.  Deliver the damn goods when promised!

I think everyone would take a Zippo instead right? I mean, I get you cant MAKE the band record, but you need to give people what they paid for, OR make it right.

And when you WEEKLY have new $25-100 items for us to buy en-mass, its clear they easily COULD give us something...even the opportunity to buy something cool.

Maybe focus on what you owe, before you try to make more? 

MisterEtake2

It has gotten so bad they changed the saying:
 
"You get what you pay for.....  just not in the Ten Club"

bigjilm

lolobugg said:

I personally changed to digital this last renewal period. I am a vinyl freak and didn't believe that I would ever do that. I have every fan club single ever released and received all but 2 directly from 10club. I am sad about it, but I feel like I was waisting (Stefan spelling) $20 a year for the last 3 years.

like a tube full of air.

Something I wish I had done years ago instead of cancelling altogether like I did. In turn my member number went from 65k to over 500k.  Being late on the annual single, as we all know, is nothing new. I let it get to me years ago and cancelled my membership over it even when they were offering a digital subscription. Stupid, I know. But like many of you I let it get to me and I reacted with my wallet and I was the one left without, not 10C. I like reading the forums and having access to better tix so I definitely won't go the same route as before. But I also believe when it comes time to re-up I'll most likely go digital and bank on the fact that the 45 will be available in the shop. 

PJWGIII

Honestly at this point 10C shouldn't wait on Christmas Singles for each year - they should just send us exclusive merch and a gift card instead to compensate if there is nothing to make into a single.

Totally agree that the Ten Club's communication on these is the main problem by far, not the fact that the band isn't recording them.

jeffbr

RP112579 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

PB11041 said:

Zod said:

Lost In Ohio said:

JimmyV said:

The band not recording the single is one problem. There being no communication is another. The former may be out of 10c's control, but Tim Bierman can and should do something about the latter.

They've recorded live tracks, sound checks and demos for years.

Like I said elsewhere, one 7" could come out in December consisting of two tracks from the vault on pre-sale six months later. Nowhere does it say the annual single has to be unique tracks, does it?

Orrr...soundcheck (if possible) from a show which would be the vault release the following year. Every once in a while, mix it up with a demo or a EV solo or a side project situation.

I think the best 10c singles have new music on them.  Whether it's a new song from the studio, or something the recorded during a soundcheck.   The live ones are decent, but not as good.  If they did live ones of tracks already released on other media... I think people would be disappointed.  I would be.  Already on the fence as to whether Analog is worth my extra $30usd anymore :(

I don't mind the live tracks as long as they are going to be exclusive, it was kind of weird the year Crown and Can't help falling in Love were the single and yet the Boots were coming out for the Vegas show a few months after.  

Could have done without any of the Holiday singles ending up on Lost Dogs.  

In any event, at this stage, it would be nice to hear a HEY we know we are behind and the 2016 was way late and the 2017 is not coming in 2018 and the 2018 single is not coming in 2018 but we have a plan to make it good...

They said something to that effect with the 2016 single.  "We apologize for the long wait but we've put together something special we think you will like."  We got a stencil and "2017" single.

This is why "communication" won't matter. Any update they give won't be good enough. The complaining won't stop. It'll just turn into "The update wasn't good enough" complaining.

You could be right. Maybe instead they should actually fulfill their obligations. Do their jobs. Strange expectation, I know.

Spiritual_Chaos

RP112579 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

PB11041 said:

Zod said:

Lost In Ohio said:

JimmyV said:

The band not recording the single is one problem. There being no communication is another. The former may be out of 10c's control, but Tim Bierman can and should do something about the latter.

They've recorded live tracks, sound checks and demos for years.

Like I said elsewhere, one 7" could come out in December consisting of two tracks from the vault on pre-sale six months later. Nowhere does it say the annual single has to be unique tracks, does it?

Orrr...soundcheck (if possible) from a show which would be the vault release the following year. Every once in a while, mix it up with a demo or a EV solo or a side project situation.

I think the best 10c singles have new music on them.  Whether it's a new song from the studio, or something the recorded during a soundcheck.   The live ones are decent, but not as good.  If they did live ones of tracks already released on other media... I think people would be disappointed.  I would be.  Already on the fence as to whether Analog is worth my extra $30usd anymore :(

I don't mind the live tracks as long as they are going to be exclusive, it was kind of weird the year Crown and Can't help falling in Love were the single and yet the Boots were coming out for the Vegas show a few months after.  

Could have done without any of the Holiday singles ending up on Lost Dogs.  

In any event, at this stage, it would be nice to hear a HEY we know we are behind and the 2016 was way late and the 2017 is not coming in 2018 and the 2018 single is not coming in 2018 but we have a plan to make it good...

They said something to that effect with the 2016 single.  "We apologize for the long wait but we've put together something special we think you will like."  We got a stencil and "2017" single.

This is why "communication" won't matter. Any update they give won't be good enough. The complaining won't stop. It'll just turn into "The update wasn't good enough" complaining.

Sorry for being frank -- but this is bullshit.

FR181798

Its a shame 10c dont do paypal. Because when the items dont arrive after a year we could just lodge a claim, get our money back. As it is, its totally unregulated. Ultimately 10c take our money, its a business, so they should tell us when its going to arrive. If they cant fulfill this any longer then drop it and drop the cost. Theyve pretty much killed the fanclub single as it is, its no longer an enjoyable thing when they treat customers so badly.

YoullseeDragons

I think at this point we will see another double sleeve holiday single. Prediction is it will be Eddie's set from the Global Citizen Nelson Mandella show. We will see.