From the top ten finalists on NJ.com last year. Ordered a variety as we had a birthday lunch going on The one that won them the top 10 recognition is the upside down jawn. Strong
A white for the Mrs with spinach
A cheese
This one is the fucking bomb The Diavlo
Italian Long Hots Hot Sausage Arrabbiata sauce Fresh garlic
Red pepper flakes
looks damn good, F’me, but it looks like they go out of their way to make sure the toppings are NOT evenly distributed (esp. the last one).
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
From the top ten finalists on NJ.com last year. Ordered a variety as we had a birthday lunch going on The one that won them the top 10 recognition is the upside down jawn. Strong
A white for the Mrs with spinach
A cheese
This one is the fucking bomb The Diavlo
Italian Long Hots Hot Sausage Arrabbiata sauce Fresh garlic
Red pepper flakes
looks damn good, F’me, but it looks like they go out of their way to make sure the toppings are NOT evenly distributed (esp. the last one).
That's when you break the code and go for the slices you know you need to have! Screw everybody else.
From the top ten finalists on NJ.com last year. Ordered a variety as we had a birthday lunch going on The one that won them the top 10 recognition is the upside down jawn. Strong
A white for the Mrs with spinach
A cheese
This one is the fucking bomb The Diavlo
Italian Long Hots Hot Sausage Arrabbiata sauce Fresh garlic
From the top ten finalists on NJ.com last year. Ordered a variety as we had a birthday lunch going on The one that won them the top 10 recognition is the upside down jawn. Strong
A white for the Mrs with spinach
A cheese
This one is the fucking bomb The Diavlo
Italian Long Hots Hot Sausage Arrabbiata sauce Fresh garlic
Red pepper flakes
looks damn good, F’me, but it looks like they go out of their way to make sure the toppings are NOT evenly distributed (esp. the last one).
That's when you break the code and go for the slices you know you need to have! Screw everybody else.
Correct. I swear to god the moments in life that I am least empathetic is the seconds after someone opens the pizza box. In my defense I promise you there has never been a person in the room with me that wanted those best slices as bad as I did.
Not to derail the thread, but while most chicagoans agree on lou’s for pizza, you’ll get at least a handful of answers for good local beef sandwiches.
Is there much parity with dipped vs dry when it comes to beef sandwiches? I’ve always gotten mine dry with sauce on the side and I feel like I get judged for that by some of the looks I’ve gotten.
Not to derail the thread, but while most chicagoans agree on lou’s for pizza, you’ll get at least a handful of answers for good local beef sandwiches.
Is there much parity with dipped vs dry when it comes to beef sandwiches? I’ve always gotten mine dry with sauce on the side and I feel like I get judged for that by some of the looks I’ve gotten.
I think there’s a fair amount of parity between the top beef spots in Chicago in terms of their sandwich quality, but dipped vs. dry is a whole different animal. Depending on which side someone is on, they may defend it pretty hard. For me, I don’t like it too dry, but dripping with au jus is too much. It makes the bread too soggy and it falls apart and it’s just a mess imo. The best beef sandwiches have just the right balance of au jus to make the beef moist with a slight sogginess to the bread. The au jus is what makes the sandwich though. That’s where the flavor is at. And you have to add sweet peppers or hot giardiniera to the sandwich. One or the other is a must.
But if your preference is to get it dry and dip it in some au jus on the side, nothing wrong with that at all pal. Wave those dirty-lookers the bird!
Not to derail the thread, but while most chicagoans agree on lou’s for pizza, you’ll get at least a handful of answers for good local beef sandwiches.
Is there much parity with dipped vs dry when it comes to beef sandwiches? I’ve always gotten mine dry with sauce on the side and I feel like I get judged for that by some of the looks I’ve gotten.
I think there’s a fair amount of parity between the top beef spots in Chicago in terms of their sandwich quality, but dipped vs. dry is a whole different animal. Depending on which side someone is on, they may defend it pretty hard. For me, I don’t like it too dry, but dripping with au jus is too much. It makes the bread too soggy and it falls apart and it’s just a mess imo. The best beef sandwiches have just the right balance of au jus to make the beef moist with a slight sogginess to the bread. The au jus is what makes the sandwich though. That’s where the flavor is at. And you have to add sweet peppers or hot giardiniera to the sandwich. One or the other is a must.
But if your preference is to get it dry and dip it in some au jus on the side, nothing wrong with that at all pal. Wave those dirty-lookers the bird!
are these in the same lines of "french dip" sandwiches? where do I go for these?!
I was just planning on saying “dipped” when I ordered mine, does that mean it’s going to be dripping and soggy? Or does it depend on the place?
I think it depends on the place. The places I go have the beef soaking in the au jus so there’s no need to dip it anymore. If the beef is separate, get it dipped. Where it gets too soggy is when they take the spoon and douse beef that was soaking in au jus with another scoop of au jus once it’s already on the bread. Sorry I’m probably doing a shit job of explaining this lol
Not to derail the thread, but while most chicagoans agree on lou’s for pizza, you’ll get at least a handful of answers for good local beef sandwiches.
Is there much parity with dipped vs dry when it comes to beef sandwiches? I’ve always gotten mine dry with sauce on the side and I feel like I get judged for that by some of the looks I’ve gotten.
I think there’s a fair amount of parity between the top beef spots in Chicago in terms of their sandwich quality, but dipped vs. dry is a whole different animal. Depending on which side someone is on, they may defend it pretty hard. For me, I don’t like it too dry, but dripping with au jus is too much. It makes the bread too soggy and it falls apart and it’s just a mess imo. The best beef sandwiches have just the right balance of au jus to make the beef moist with a slight sogginess to the bread. The au jus is what makes the sandwich though. That’s where the flavor is at. And you have to add sweet peppers or hot giardiniera to the sandwich. One or the other is a must.
But if your preference is to get it dry and dip it in some au jus on the side, nothing wrong with that at all pal. Wave those dirty-lookers the bird!
are these in the same lines of "french dip" sandwiches? where do I go for these?!
Italian beef is different than a French dip and much better imo. The photo below is a Portillos beef. It’s a real pic I stole online rather than the perfected shots you might see in a commercial. This is the real deal. You can see the sogginess of the bread which is a good thing. It’s got the right amount of au jus but not too much. When you’re in Chicago, go to Portillos! The best. Als beef is very good too. Johnnies Beef is amazing too but it’s in Emwood Park which is a neighborhood on the west outskirts of Chicago (too far). Those are 3 local icons...can’t go wrong. But DO go to Portillos. It’s an experience unlike any other.
I was just planning on saying “dipped” when I ordered mine, does that mean it’s going to be dripping and soggy? Or does it depend on the place?
I think it depends on the place. The places I go have the beef soaking in the au jus so there’s no need to dip it anymore. If the beef is separate, get it dipped. Where it gets too soggy is when they take the spoon and douse beef that was soaking in au jus with another scoop of au jus once it’s already on the bread. Sorry I’m probably doing a shit job of explaining this lol
that was a perfectly fine explanation.
I loved chicago beef and think the dipping of a french dip is dumb. I would say they are not the same, since a french dip is on 75% of bar food menus across the U.S.
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
I was just planning on saying “dipped” when I ordered mine, does that mean it’s going to be dripping and soggy? Or does it depend on the place?
I think it depends on the place. The places I go have the beef soaking in the au jus so there’s no need to dip it anymore. If the beef is separate, get it dipped. Where it gets too soggy is when they take the spoon and douse beef that was soaking in au jus with another scoop of au jus once it’s already on the bread. Sorry I’m probably doing a shit job of explaining this lol
that was a perfectly fine explanation.
I loved chicago beef and think the dipping of a french dip is dumb. I would say they are not the same, since a french dip is on 75% of bar food menus across the U.S.
Yeah I haven’t had a Chicago Italian beef sandwich yet but I very much so expect it to be better than a French dip. And thanks for the info Biggs, it was very helpful! I think I might just stick to dry and make sure the place has it stewing in the “gravy”. I wouldn’t mind some softness in the bread, but full on sogginess I can’t do.
Wob, exactly what one might expect from someone that chose to live in Las Vegas for years. If you have had a true French Dip
. Not dumb.
Chicago beef sandwich is great
No better French dip than Phillipe
I’m missing what vegas has to do with anything
I don’t like a french dip because I don’t care for soggy bread....reminds me of joey chestnut dipping a hot dog.
BTW....vegas has some really good philly cheesesteaks.
but, I digress.
BTP!
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
jeebus christ! that last one is pornagraphic.....and unappetizing.
(I think my spelling is alcohol fucked up)
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
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looks damn good, F’me, but it looks like they go out of their way to make sure the toppings are NOT evenly distributed (esp. the last one).
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
(at least for me)
But if your preference is to get it dry and dip it in some au jus on the side, nothing wrong with that at all pal. Wave those dirty-lookers the bird!
Los Angeles.
Money
that was a perfectly fine explanation.
I loved chicago beef and think the dipping of a french dip is dumb. I would say they are not the same, since a french dip is on 75% of bar food menus across the U.S.
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
My gut feels yuck today.
And I feel lazy to do anything lol
If you have had a true French Dip
Not dumb.
Chicago beef sandwich is great
No better French dip than Phillipe
I’m missing what vegas has to do with anything
I don’t like a french dip because I don’t care for soggy bread....reminds me of joey chestnut dipping a hot dog.
BTW....vegas has some really good philly cheesesteaks.
but, I digress.
BTP!
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Philly
(I think my spelling is alcohol fucked up)
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14