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PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:and there you have it.
the debate has nothing to do with the creationist agenda. you brought that in, no one else. I never even mentioned creationists. someone else did. all we were talking about was different people's ability to appreciate the physical world.
I think people of all beliefs have the same ability to appreciate their world.
you (and some others) don't.
end of story.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:and there you have it.
the debate has nothing to do with the creationist agenda. you brought that in, no one else. I never even mentioned creationists. someone else did. all we were talking about was different people's ability to appreciate the physical world.
I think people of all beliefs have the same ability to appreciate their world.
you (and some others) don't.
end of story.
Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
rgambs said:Annafalk said:HughFreakingDillon said:PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:I disagree. I think one can have a different belief on how something works yet still have an equal appreciation for it.
we don't know who/what created everything. we just try to explain how it works. how is it that someone who thinks they CAN explain who/what created everything must have a lesser appreciation of it?
If you tell me you replaced the tie rod on your truck I can't appreciate your mechanical skills because I don't know shit about mechanics. I don't know if you rebuilt the whole car or just snapped a piece into place.
If I've never swung a golf club, can I truly appreciate a 300 yard hole in one?0 -
PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:and there you have it.
the debate has nothing to do with the creationist agenda. you brought that in, no one else. I never even mentioned creationists. someone else did. all we were talking about was different people's ability to appreciate the physical world.
I think people of all beliefs have the same ability to appreciate their world.
you (and some others) don't.
end of story.
not sure how this makes me a hypocrite.
have a lovely day.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:and there you have it.
the debate has nothing to do with the creationist agenda. you brought that in, no one else. I never even mentioned creationists. someone else did. all we were talking about was different people's ability to appreciate the physical world.
I think people of all beliefs have the same ability to appreciate their world.
you (and some others) don't.
end of story.
not sure how this makes me a hypocrite.
have a lovely day.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
I'm well gripped. but thanks.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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HughFreakingDillon said:oftenreading said:HughFreakingDillon said:rgambs said:HughFreakingDillon said:I disagree. I think one can have a different belief on how something works yet still have an equal appreciation for it.
Are you telling me that any old Joe can have an equal appreciation for a masterpiece symphony to a composer or performer?
Can someone who doesn't know how to make Kraft Mac and cheese have an equal appreciation for the finest gourmet meal?
You have to truly know something to truly appreciate it.
Part of the definition of "appreciate" deals with having an understanding.
so because I'm a musician means I have a deeper appreciation of Pearl Jam than a non-musician?
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If I choose a particular word it's often because it has a particular meaning that conveys what I want to say.
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I mean I knew someone would nitpick the word "fan" and I should have said "appreciation" instead for consistency.
edit: and semantics can be a bad thing because it causes someone to focus on literal meanings instead of the intent of the content.Post edited by HughFreakingDillon onHugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:I mean I knew someone would nitpick the word "fan" and I should have said "appreciation" instead for consistency.
edit: and semantics can be a bad thing because it causes someone to focus on literal meanings instead of the intent of the content.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
oftenreading said:HughFreakingDillon said:I mean I knew someone would nitpick the word "fan" and I should have said "appreciation" instead for consistency.
edit: and semantics can be a bad thing because it causes someone to focus on literal meanings instead of the intent of the content.
THAT is the point.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:oftenreading said:HughFreakingDillon said:I mean I knew someone would nitpick the word "fan" and I should have said "appreciation" instead for consistency.
edit: and semantics can be a bad thing because it causes someone to focus on literal meanings instead of the intent of the content.
THAT is the point.
And to answer your earlier question, you probably do appreciate Pearl Jam's music more than a non-musician.
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oftenreading said:HughFreakingDillon said:oftenreading said:HughFreakingDillon said:I mean I knew someone would nitpick the word "fan" and I should have said "appreciation" instead for consistency.
edit: and semantics can be a bad thing because it causes someone to focus on literal meanings instead of the intent of the content.
THAT is the point.
And to answer your earlier question, you probably do appreciate Pearl Jam's music more than a non-musician.
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I watched a documentary once about ham and terrorism and the comedy of war.
In it, John Candy led me to believe that Canadians don't argue like this.
Honor John Candy's memory and Rhea Pearlman's continued greatness.
Please.
I beg of you.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
FWIW, I do think that a musician is likely to have a deeper appreciation for a band's music than a non-musician. Musicians would necessarily have a deeper, wider understanding of what is going into making that music what it is. There is, however, a difference between appreciation in this context, and loving something. A musician probably can have a deeper appreciation for the music but not love or enjoy the music as much at the same time.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
I agree that people w/ different beliefs have the same ability to appreciate their world. As for the musician context I played a recorder once in grade school and still to this day can't appreciate it's music. I certainly can't stand country music either no matter how well the guy plays the geetar.0
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now I'm second guessing my position.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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PJfanwillneverleave1 said:I agree that people w/ different beliefs have the same ability to appreciate their world. As for the musician context I played a recorder once in grade school and still to this day can't appreciate it's music. I certainly can't stand country music either no matter how well the guy plays the geetar.
@ "geetar!"
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HesCalledDyer said:PJfanwillneverleave1 said:I agree that people w/ different beliefs have the same ability to appreciate their world. As for the musician context I played a recorder once in grade school and still to this day can't appreciate it's music. I certainly can't stand country music either no matter how well the guy plays the geetar.
@ "geetar!"
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Annafalk said:HesCalledDyer said:PJfanwillneverleave1 said:I agree that people w/ different beliefs have the same ability to appreciate their world. As for the musician context I played a recorder once in grade school and still to this day can't appreciate it's music. I certainly can't stand country music either no matter how well the guy plays the geetar.
@ "geetar!"
https://www.google.se/imgres?imgurl=https://image.redbull.com/rbcom/010/2017-03-02/1331847493656_2/0012/0/0/345/2282/3770/1600/1/a-pikasso-guitar.jpg&imgrefurl=https://www.redbull.com/se-en/the-strangest-instruments-made-by-musicians&docid=mcUovBfgBNmjQM&tbnid=HvUFiZIDu5oz5M:&vet=10ahUKEwj5sZCetM3VAhUPPFAKHfaJDBoQMwg6KAcwBw..i&w=1600&h=1066&bih=460&biw=320&q=instruments&ved=0ahUKEwj5sZCetM3VAhUPPFAKHfaJDBoQMwg6KAcwBw&iact=mrc&uact=8'd
Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250 -
No one appreciates the recorder.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0
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