The Concept of God
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Just about got it down to God, Jesus, Moses, Noah and some others were extraterrestrials, and some of the events thereof.Amy The Great #74594
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HughFreakingDillon said:RYME said:HughFreakingDillon said:FoxyRedLa said:I'm not even certain the site is reputable. Just thought I'd share.
I've been taking everyone's opinion/thoughts/views into consideration and have been thinking a lot. Been thinking about my kids. As usual.
The Father, The Son (Jesus) & The Holy Spirit. Yes they are all one and the same. It's like ice, steam, and water. It's all H2O just in different formes.
why did god have to have a son when he previously just spoke directly to humans, like he did with moses and noah? all of a sudden he's too busy so he gets a subordinate to represent him? I would think a voice from the clouds would be more convincing than just some everyday dude in a robe and sandals preaching this new fan-dangled doctrine that pissed off the locals.
and then he "sacrificed his only begotten son"? if he's him, he's not his son, he's him. and he didn't sacrifice anything if Jesus is in heaven with him.
it's really a ludicrous premise in my mind.
Which goes to show how nonsensical it all is.“Do not postpone happiness”
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I don't know where in the Bible God is talking to Jesus or vice versa or Himself. Never seen it. Jesus is God In the Flesh (Emmanuel God With Us) (Yashua-YHVH's Savior, our Messiah.)
And Jesus did not die on the cross for Himself or for God, He is God. He did it for you!! Not for Himself. He paid the price for the whole worlds sins all at once on Himself. And He paid an awesome price. Trying to make it easy for us. Whereby if we accept this gift from Him & repent, we get everlasting life with Him in heaven after this flesh life that we are in. Hence, John 3:16Post edited by RYME on0 -
RYME said:I don't know where in the Bible God is talking to Jesus or vice versa or Himself. Never seen it. Jesus is God In the Flesh (Emmanuel God With Us) (Yashua-YHVH's Savior, our Messiah.)
And Jesus did not die on the cross for Himself or for God, He is God. He did it for you!! Not for Himself. He paid the price for the whole worlds sins all at once on Himself. And He paid an awesome price. Trying to make it easy for us. Whereby if we accept this gift from Him & repent, we get everlasting life with Him in heaven after this flesh life that we are in. Hence, John 3:16
but why did he need to die to protect us from himself?Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
Jesus is the Son, God is the Father, Jesus is God, The Holy Spirit is God... I think there is only one way to explain this conundrum:
"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
It's like the rain falls and you don't question with word but in spirit something unseen is happening.
The mountain structure and the rivers that were dammed should be proof of something bigger going on and i speak to the non believers of gods spirit within us not to convince but to console even though there's an argument not needed itself. For we don't want to be consoled we want to be free to think our own way.
The concept of god is great for humanity and with death at every intersection of life It's comforting to rise up spiritually and accept the gift within us that we are perfect as gods creation just the way wer meant to be. We are all jesus spirit.
Go now and love your dog cat chicken etc for peace is coming soon.Post edited by Shyner on0 -
I'm not normally a preacher but I think these words are beautiful;
…All things have been entrusted to Me by My Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal Him. 28Come toMe, all you who are weary andburdened, and I will give you rest.29Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me; for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
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RYME said:I don't know where in the Bible God is talking to Jesus or vice versa or Himself. Never seen it. Jesus is God In the Flesh (Emmanuel God With Us) (Yashua-YHVH's Savior, our Messiah.)
And Jesus did not die on the cross for Himself or for God, He is God. He did it for you!! Not for Himself. He paid the price for the whole worlds sins all at once on Himself. And He paid an awesome price. Trying to make it easy for us. Whereby if we accept this gift from Him & repent, we get everlasting life with Him in heaven after this flesh life that we are in. Hence, John 3:16
You've shown a pretty thorough grasp on the Bible, but now, all of a sudden, you don't recall the Garden of Gethsemane or his doubt on the cross?Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
rgambs said:RYME said:I don't know where in the Bible God is talking to Jesus or vice versa or Himself. Never seen it. Jesus is God In the Flesh (Emmanuel God With Us) (Yashua-YHVH's Savior, our Messiah.)
And Jesus did not die on the cross for Himself or for God, He is God. He did it for you!! Not for Himself. He paid the price for the whole worlds sins all at once on Himself. And He paid an awesome price. Trying to make it easy for us. Whereby if we accept this gift from Him & repent, we get everlasting life with Him in heaven after this flesh life that we are in. Hence, John 3:16
You've shown a pretty thorough grasp on the Bible, but now, all of a sudden, you don't recall the Garden of Gethsemane or his doubt on the cross?
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/080 -
The Holy Trinity is not in the Bible - that word is never mentioned. It was a concept formalized a few Centuries after the last books in the Bible were written. That is why the Holy Trinity is so hard - impossible, in fact - to explain. Those who came up with it were attempting to reconcile what seemed to them the different faces of God... and they did a poor job of it. That never stopped them from teaching the doctrine though, especially since it is what largely distinguished the Roman Catholic Church from other sects of Christianity - this was an important factor in building its control over the population and identifying those outside of it.
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jeffbr said:rgambs said:RYME said:I don't know where in the Bible God is talking to Jesus or vice versa or Himself. Never seen it. Jesus is God In the Flesh (Emmanuel God With Us) (Yashua-YHVH's Savior, our Messiah.)
And Jesus did not die on the cross for Himself or for God, He is God. He did it for you!! Not for Himself. He paid the price for the whole worlds sins all at once on Himself. And He paid an awesome price. Trying to make it easy for us. Whereby if we accept this gift from Him & repent, we get everlasting life with Him in heaven after this flesh life that we are in. Hence, John 3:16
You've shown a pretty thorough grasp on the Bible, but now, all of a sudden, you don't recall the Garden of Gethsemane or his doubt on the cross?
Good questions, I enjoy being challenged. Again I don't claim to know it all and I am not immune from mistakes.https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+22&version=KJV
So hopefully you will read Psalms 22 here and then reread the Matthew 27 and you'll have more clarity when in the ninth hour Jesus was saying my God my God why hast Thou forsaken me?
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Maybe God wanted Jesus to feel how humans feel when they are in agony to get the understanding to feel totally alone and abandoned.0
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RYME said:jeffbr said:rgambs said:RYME said:I don't know where in the Bible God is talking to Jesus or vice versa or Himself. Never seen it. Jesus is God In the Flesh (Emmanuel God With Us) (Yashua-YHVH's Savior, our Messiah.)
And Jesus did not die on the cross for Himself or for God, He is God. He did it for you!! Not for Himself. He paid the price for the whole worlds sins all at once on Himself. And He paid an awesome price. Trying to make it easy for us. Whereby if we accept this gift from Him & repent, we get everlasting life with Him in heaven after this flesh life that we are in. Hence, John 3:16
You've shown a pretty thorough grasp on the Bible, but now, all of a sudden, you don't recall the Garden of Gethsemane or his doubt on the cross?
Good questions, I enjoy being challenged. Again I don't claim to know it all and I am not immune from mistakes.https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+22&version=KJV
Not trying to be nitpicky, but I think it goes directly to what I was confused about. Can you reconcile your two statements that I bolded? It has caused me further confusion."I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/080 -
This is good. Your not nitpicking. You are looking for legit answers.
I am not a pastor I'm not a preacher. But as you can tell I am a grateful believer. So I try to help people if they want, come to a better understanding. And when I do not have the correct words to say, I look for a place where it is explained very well.
I found this and maybe this will help you.
I hope it helps you or anyone reading this.
https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-pray-God.html
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There is no 'Legit answers' when it is make believe
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This thread has been around awhile (and believe me, I have nothing against anything that has been around awhile), so every now and then I like to go back to HFD's original question:
"so basically the point of this thread is not to argue about faith, or try to convince someone else that you are right or they are wrong. just, what do you think god is, if you believe a god exists?"
It's interesting that the discussion keeps going back to talking about the Christian God and Jesus and the Bible. Can we clarify again, HFD, is that what the topic is? Or is it literally what you stated as in, the general concept of "a god"?
True, most who discuss on this forum are westerners and therefor most are more familiar with the Christian concept of God, but (assuming anyone else cares), I wouldn't mind hearing about what people think of the more general concept of "a god".
For me, the concept of "god" is a bit of a conundrum because I tend to think that if there is a god, that god is undefinable in human terms and encompasses all that we cannot understand which means god (or God) is simply that which we have yet, if ever, to discover and be able to quantify, identify and understand. It's like looking at a sealed box and wondering if there is something in it and if so, what is it and can we ever understand what it is?
And I should add, I'm very OK with the idea that there may be things we don't can't and never will be understand. The universe without some mystery would seem a far more coldly academic without a bit of mystery to spice things up.
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