Is America the greatest country in the world?
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So repubs, controlling all three branches of government and being predominantly white and male could fix the problem, right? But they’re purposely choosing not to.cincybearcat said:
Yup, I agree. we need immigration reform badly. Germany just updated theirs to help with that labor shortage....they are looking for skilled labor.Halifax2TheMax said:
So what about the 7,000,000+ labor shortage in the US?cincybearcat said:
Yeah a 400,000 person labor shortage will do that. I personally think it looks like a lot of countries are taking in a lot of people.PJ_Soul said:
No, that wasn't my point, and not a concept I generally agree with in the context you mean. My point was that population size can be an indicator of how many immigrants a country is equipped to take in. Seems that Germany is going above and beyond, for obvious reasons.cincybearcat said:
Yup. So we agree that the US size makes it pretty unique and tough to compare in a lot of ways then?PJ_Soul said:cincybearcat said:"The U.S. accepted 1,183,500 permanent migrants in 2016, remaining the top country for immigration."
Canada under 300,000
Sweden 138,000
USA was #1, Germany #2 at about 1 million, UK at #3 was only 350,000Yeah...Population Sweden is 10 million.Population of Canada is 37 million.Population of the UK is 66.5 million.Populations of Germany is 82 million.Population of the US is 326 million.
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Well I'm not convinced they can get it done either....couldn't agree on health care. But this admin and this congress certainly aren't doing anything. Much like all the previous admins and congress I can think of. Bunch of do nothing idiots...cause they only care about elections.Halifax2TheMax said:
So repubs, controlling all three branches of government and being predominantly white and male could fix the problem, right? But they’re purposely choosing not to.cincybearcat said:
Yup, I agree. we need immigration reform badly. Germany just updated theirs to help with that labor shortage....they are looking for skilled labor.Halifax2TheMax said:
So what about the 7,000,000+ labor shortage in the US?cincybearcat said:
Yeah a 400,000 person labor shortage will do that. I personally think it looks like a lot of countries are taking in a lot of people.PJ_Soul said:
No, that wasn't my point, and not a concept I generally agree with in the context you mean. My point was that population size can be an indicator of how many immigrants a country is equipped to take in. Seems that Germany is going above and beyond, for obvious reasons.cincybearcat said:
Yup. So we agree that the US size makes it pretty unique and tough to compare in a lot of ways then?PJ_Soul said:cincybearcat said:"The U.S. accepted 1,183,500 permanent migrants in 2016, remaining the top country for immigration."
Canada under 300,000
Sweden 138,000
USA was #1, Germany #2 at about 1 million, UK at #3 was only 350,000Yeah...Population Sweden is 10 million.Population of Canada is 37 million.Population of the UK is 66.5 million.Populations of Germany is 82 million.Population of the US is 326 million.
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I believe it was you who talked about immigration standards. I was juts posting factual information I went and found.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Sweden accepted the most asYlYm seekers per capita in the whole world from the latest refugee crisis in SYria . Far above the european/world average.cincybearcat said:"The U.S. accepted 1,183,500 permanent migrants in 2016, remaining the top country for immigration."
Canada under 300,000
Sweden 138,000
USA was #1, Germany #2 at about 1 million, UK at #3 was only 350,000Which Your lovelY president has mocked for some reason? Helping out people the US helped fuck up their lives for (according to Trump even)?
So what point are You trYing to make?hippiemom = goodness0 -
And fix that fuckin keyboardSpiritual_Chaos said:
Sweden accepted the most asYlYm seekers per capita in the whole world from the latest refugee crisis in SYria . Far above the european/world average.cincybearcat said:"The U.S. accepted 1,183,500 permanent migrants in 2016, remaining the top country for immigration."
Canada under 300,000
Sweden 138,000
USA was #1, Germany #2 at about 1 million, UK at #3 was only 350,000Which Your lovelY president has mocked for some reason? Helping out people the US helped fuck up their lives for (according to Trump even)?
So what point are You trYing to make?
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They need to cancel all this primary nonsense. Seems to me that is largely what's getting in the way.cincybearcat said:
Well I'm not convinced they can get it done either....couldn't agree on health care. But this admin and this congress certainly aren't doing anything. Much like all the previous admins and congress I can think of. Bunch of do nothing idiots...cause they only care about elections.Halifax2TheMax said:
So repubs, controlling all three branches of government and being predominantly white and male could fix the problem, right? But they’re purposely choosing not to.cincybearcat said:
Yup, I agree. we need immigration reform badly. Germany just updated theirs to help with that labor shortage....they are looking for skilled labor.Halifax2TheMax said:
So what about the 7,000,000+ labor shortage in the US?cincybearcat said:
Yeah a 400,000 person labor shortage will do that. I personally think it looks like a lot of countries are taking in a lot of people.PJ_Soul said:
No, that wasn't my point, and not a concept I generally agree with in the context you mean. My point was that population size can be an indicator of how many immigrants a country is equipped to take in. Seems that Germany is going above and beyond, for obvious reasons.cincybearcat said:
Yup. So we agree that the US size makes it pretty unique and tough to compare in a lot of ways then?PJ_Soul said:cincybearcat said:"The U.S. accepted 1,183,500 permanent migrants in 2016, remaining the top country for immigration."
Canada under 300,000
Sweden 138,000
USA was #1, Germany #2 at about 1 million, UK at #3 was only 350,000Yeah...Population Sweden is 10 million.Population of Canada is 37 million.Population of the UK is 66.5 million.Populations of Germany is 82 million.Population of the US is 326 million.
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I agree it is a HUGE problem cause it plays to the fringe of each party. That's just dumb.PJ_Soul said:
They need to cancel all this primary nonsense. Seems to me that is largely what's getting in the way.cincybearcat said:
Well I'm not convinced they can get it done either....couldn't agree on health care. But this admin and this congress certainly aren't doing anything. Much like all the previous admins and congress I can think of. Bunch of do nothing idiots...cause they only care about elections.Halifax2TheMax said:
So repubs, controlling all three branches of government and being predominantly white and male could fix the problem, right? But they’re purposely choosing not to.cincybearcat said:
Yup, I agree. we need immigration reform badly. Germany just updated theirs to help with that labor shortage....they are looking for skilled labor.Halifax2TheMax said:
So what about the 7,000,000+ labor shortage in the US?cincybearcat said:
Yeah a 400,000 person labor shortage will do that. I personally think it looks like a lot of countries are taking in a lot of people.PJ_Soul said:
No, that wasn't my point, and not a concept I generally agree with in the context you mean. My point was that population size can be an indicator of how many immigrants a country is equipped to take in. Seems that Germany is going above and beyond, for obvious reasons.cincybearcat said:
Yup. So we agree that the US size makes it pretty unique and tough to compare in a lot of ways then?PJ_Soul said:cincybearcat said:"The U.S. accepted 1,183,500 permanent migrants in 2016, remaining the top country for immigration."
Canada under 300,000
Sweden 138,000
USA was #1, Germany #2 at about 1 million, UK at #3 was only 350,000Yeah...Population Sweden is 10 million.Population of Canada is 37 million.Population of the UK is 66.5 million.Populations of Germany is 82 million.Population of the US is 326 million.
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Primary nonsense?PJ_Soul said:
They need to cancel all this primary nonsense. Seems to me that is largely what's getting in the way.cincybearcat said:
Well I'm not convinced they can get it done either....couldn't agree on health care. But this admin and this congress certainly aren't doing anything. Much like all the previous admins and congress I can think of. Bunch of do nothing idiots...cause they only care about elections.Halifax2TheMax said:
So repubs, controlling all three branches of government and being predominantly white and male could fix the problem, right? But they’re purposely choosing not to.cincybearcat said:
Yup, I agree. we need immigration reform badly. Germany just updated theirs to help with that labor shortage....they are looking for skilled labor.Halifax2TheMax said:
So what about the 7,000,000+ labor shortage in the US?cincybearcat said:
Yeah a 400,000 person labor shortage will do that. I personally think it looks like a lot of countries are taking in a lot of people.PJ_Soul said:
No, that wasn't my point, and not a concept I generally agree with in the context you mean. My point was that population size can be an indicator of how many immigrants a country is equipped to take in. Seems that Germany is going above and beyond, for obvious reasons.cincybearcat said:
Yup. So we agree that the US size makes it pretty unique and tough to compare in a lot of ways then?PJ_Soul said:cincybearcat said:"The U.S. accepted 1,183,500 permanent migrants in 2016, remaining the top country for immigration."
Canada under 300,000
Sweden 138,000
USA was #1, Germany #2 at about 1 million, UK at #3 was only 350,000Yeah...Population Sweden is 10 million.Population of Canada is 37 million.Population of the UK is 66.5 million.Populations of Germany is 82 million.Population of the US is 326 million.
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Stop with the primary elections.mcgruff10 said:
Primary nonsense?PJ_Soul said:
They need to cancel all this primary nonsense. Seems to me that is largely what's getting in the way.cincybearcat said:
Well I'm not convinced they can get it done either....couldn't agree on health care. But this admin and this congress certainly aren't doing anything. Much like all the previous admins and congress I can think of. Bunch of do nothing idiots...cause they only care about elections.Halifax2TheMax said:
So repubs, controlling all three branches of government and being predominantly white and male could fix the problem, right? But they’re purposely choosing not to.cincybearcat said:
Yup, I agree. we need immigration reform badly. Germany just updated theirs to help with that labor shortage....they are looking for skilled labor.Halifax2TheMax said:
So what about the 7,000,000+ labor shortage in the US?cincybearcat said:
Yeah a 400,000 person labor shortage will do that. I personally think it looks like a lot of countries are taking in a lot of people.PJ_Soul said:
No, that wasn't my point, and not a concept I generally agree with in the context you mean. My point was that population size can be an indicator of how many immigrants a country is equipped to take in. Seems that Germany is going above and beyond, for obvious reasons.cincybearcat said:
Yup. So we agree that the US size makes it pretty unique and tough to compare in a lot of ways then?PJ_Soul said:cincybearcat said:"The U.S. accepted 1,183,500 permanent migrants in 2016, remaining the top country for immigration."
Canada under 300,000
Sweden 138,000
USA was #1, Germany #2 at about 1 million, UK at #3 was only 350,000Yeah...Population Sweden is 10 million.Population of Canada is 37 million.Population of the UK is 66.5 million.Populations of Germany is 82 million.Population of the US is 326 million.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
So if five people want to run how do you decide who runs for your party?PJ_Soul said:
Stop with the primary elections.mcgruff10 said:
Primary nonsense?PJ_Soul said:
They need to cancel all this primary nonsense. Seems to me that is largely what's getting in the way.cincybearcat said:
Well I'm not convinced they can get it done either....couldn't agree on health care. But this admin and this congress certainly aren't doing anything. Much like all the previous admins and congress I can think of. Bunch of do nothing idiots...cause they only care about elections.Halifax2TheMax said:
So repubs, controlling all three branches of government and being predominantly white and male could fix the problem, right? But they’re purposely choosing not to.cincybearcat said:
Yup, I agree. we need immigration reform badly. Germany just updated theirs to help with that labor shortage....they are looking for skilled labor.Halifax2TheMax said:
So what about the 7,000,000+ labor shortage in the US?cincybearcat said:
Yeah a 400,000 person labor shortage will do that. I personally think it looks like a lot of countries are taking in a lot of people.PJ_Soul said:
No, that wasn't my point, and not a concept I generally agree with in the context you mean. My point was that population size can be an indicator of how many immigrants a country is equipped to take in. Seems that Germany is going above and beyond, for obvious reasons.cincybearcat said:
Yup. So we agree that the US size makes it pretty unique and tough to compare in a lot of ways then?PJ_Soul said:cincybearcat said:"The U.S. accepted 1,183,500 permanent migrants in 2016, remaining the top country for immigration."
Canada under 300,000
Sweden 138,000
USA was #1, Germany #2 at about 1 million, UK at #3 was only 350,000Yeah...Population Sweden is 10 million.Population of Canada is 37 million.Population of the UK is 66.5 million.Populations of Germany is 82 million.Population of the US is 326 million.
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Let the party decide....not the fringe of the party.mcgruff10 said:
So if five people want to run how do you decide who runs for your party?PJ_Soul said:
Stop with the primary elections.mcgruff10 said:
Primary nonsense?PJ_Soul said:
They need to cancel all this primary nonsense. Seems to me that is largely what's getting in the way.cincybearcat said:
Well I'm not convinced they can get it done either....couldn't agree on health care. But this admin and this congress certainly aren't doing anything. Much like all the previous admins and congress I can think of. Bunch of do nothing idiots...cause they only care about elections.Halifax2TheMax said:
So repubs, controlling all three branches of government and being predominantly white and male could fix the problem, right? But they’re purposely choosing not to.cincybearcat said:
Yup, I agree. we need immigration reform badly. Germany just updated theirs to help with that labor shortage....they are looking for skilled labor.Halifax2TheMax said:
So what about the 7,000,000+ labor shortage in the US?cincybearcat said:
Yeah a 400,000 person labor shortage will do that. I personally think it looks like a lot of countries are taking in a lot of people.PJ_Soul said:
No, that wasn't my point, and not a concept I generally agree with in the context you mean. My point was that population size can be an indicator of how many immigrants a country is equipped to take in. Seems that Germany is going above and beyond, for obvious reasons.cincybearcat said:
Yup. So we agree that the US size makes it pretty unique and tough to compare in a lot of ways then?PJ_Soul said:cincybearcat said:"The U.S. accepted 1,183,500 permanent migrants in 2016, remaining the top country for immigration."
Canada under 300,000
Sweden 138,000
USA was #1, Germany #2 at about 1 million, UK at #3 was only 350,000Yeah...Population Sweden is 10 million.Population of Canada is 37 million.Population of the UK is 66.5 million.Populations of Germany is 82 million.Population of the US is 326 million.
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Like most other countries do: The party has its own internal nomination and election process for their leader. Canada does it, works just fine. The party picks their leader and then they inform the public who will be on the ballot on election day.mcgruff10 said:
So if five people want to run how do you decide who runs for your party?PJ_Soul said:
Stop with the primary elections.mcgruff10 said:
Primary nonsense?PJ_Soul said:
They need to cancel all this primary nonsense. Seems to me that is largely what's getting in the way.cincybearcat said:
Well I'm not convinced they can get it done either....couldn't agree on health care. But this admin and this congress certainly aren't doing anything. Much like all the previous admins and congress I can think of. Bunch of do nothing idiots...cause they only care about elections.Halifax2TheMax said:
So repubs, controlling all three branches of government and being predominantly white and male could fix the problem, right? But they’re purposely choosing not to.cincybearcat said:
Yup, I agree. we need immigration reform badly. Germany just updated theirs to help with that labor shortage....they are looking for skilled labor.Halifax2TheMax said:
So what about the 7,000,000+ labor shortage in the US?cincybearcat said:
Yeah a 400,000 person labor shortage will do that. I personally think it looks like a lot of countries are taking in a lot of people.PJ_Soul said:
No, that wasn't my point, and not a concept I generally agree with in the context you mean. My point was that population size can be an indicator of how many immigrants a country is equipped to take in. Seems that Germany is going above and beyond, for obvious reasons.cincybearcat said:
Yup. So we agree that the US size makes it pretty unique and tough to compare in a lot of ways then?PJ_Soul said:cincybearcat said:"The U.S. accepted 1,183,500 permanent migrants in 2016, remaining the top country for immigration."
Canada under 300,000
Sweden 138,000
USA was #1, Germany #2 at about 1 million, UK at #3 was only 350,000Yeah...Population Sweden is 10 million.Population of Canada is 37 million.Population of the UK is 66.5 million.Populations of Germany is 82 million.Population of the US is 326 million.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Pluses and minuses for both I guess. I like primaries.cincybearcat said:
Let the party decide....not the fringe of the party.mcgruff10 said:
So if five people want to run how do you decide who runs for your party?PJ_Soul said:
Stop with the primary elections.mcgruff10 said:
Primary nonsense?PJ_Soul said:
They need to cancel all this primary nonsense. Seems to me that is largely what's getting in the way.cincybearcat said:
Well I'm not convinced they can get it done either....couldn't agree on health care. But this admin and this congress certainly aren't doing anything. Much like all the previous admins and congress I can think of. Bunch of do nothing idiots...cause they only care about elections.Halifax2TheMax said:
So repubs, controlling all three branches of government and being predominantly white and male could fix the problem, right? But they’re purposely choosing not to.cincybearcat said:
Yup, I agree. we need immigration reform badly. Germany just updated theirs to help with that labor shortage....they are looking for skilled labor.Halifax2TheMax said:
So what about the 7,000,000+ labor shortage in the US?cincybearcat said:
Yeah a 400,000 person labor shortage will do that. I personally think it looks like a lot of countries are taking in a lot of people.PJ_Soul said:
No, that wasn't my point, and not a concept I generally agree with in the context you mean. My point was that population size can be an indicator of how many immigrants a country is equipped to take in. Seems that Germany is going above and beyond, for obvious reasons.cincybearcat said:
Yup. So we agree that the US size makes it pretty unique and tough to compare in a lot of ways then?PJ_Soul said:cincybearcat said:"The U.S. accepted 1,183,500 permanent migrants in 2016, remaining the top country for immigration."
Canada under 300,000
Sweden 138,000
USA was #1, Germany #2 at about 1 million, UK at #3 was only 350,000Yeah...Population Sweden is 10 million.Population of Canada is 37 million.Population of the UK is 66.5 million.Populations of Germany is 82 million.Population of the US is 326 million.
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Why? The primaries distract all your politicians for literally half the time, and leaves so much more room for shady deals and corruption and shit, and, worst of all, it causes all the voters to suffer from extreme election fatigue.mcgruff10 said:
Pluses and minuses for both I guess. I like primaries.cincybearcat said:
Let the party decide....not the fringe of the party.mcgruff10 said:
So if five people want to run how do you decide who runs for your party?PJ_Soul said:
Stop with the primary elections.mcgruff10 said:
Primary nonsense?PJ_Soul said:
They need to cancel all this primary nonsense. Seems to me that is largely what's getting in the way.cincybearcat said:
Well I'm not convinced they can get it done either....couldn't agree on health care. But this admin and this congress certainly aren't doing anything. Much like all the previous admins and congress I can think of. Bunch of do nothing idiots...cause they only care about elections.Halifax2TheMax said:
So repubs, controlling all three branches of government and being predominantly white and male could fix the problem, right? But they’re purposely choosing not to.cincybearcat said:
Yup, I agree. we need immigration reform badly. Germany just updated theirs to help with that labor shortage....they are looking for skilled labor.Halifax2TheMax said:
So what about the 7,000,000+ labor shortage in the US?cincybearcat said:
Yeah a 400,000 person labor shortage will do that. I personally think it looks like a lot of countries are taking in a lot of people.PJ_Soul said:
No, that wasn't my point, and not a concept I generally agree with in the context you mean. My point was that population size can be an indicator of how many immigrants a country is equipped to take in. Seems that Germany is going above and beyond, for obvious reasons.cincybearcat said:
Yup. So we agree that the US size makes it pretty unique and tough to compare in a lot of ways then?PJ_Soul said:cincybearcat said:"The U.S. accepted 1,183,500 permanent migrants in 2016, remaining the top country for immigration."
Canada under 300,000
Sweden 138,000
USA was #1, Germany #2 at about 1 million, UK at #3 was only 350,000Yeah...Population Sweden is 10 million.Population of Canada is 37 million.Population of the UK is 66.5 million.Populations of Germany is 82 million.Population of the US is 326 million.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
mcgruff10 said:
Spiritual you have legit neo- nazi s in your parliament. Your own country is becoming more and more anti-immigrant. Your country is becoming what you hate. I don’t think neo-nazi s will ever hold a single seat of congress in our modern democracy.Spiritual_Chaos said:
In what western democracy would this not be true?tbergs said:
It's got it's flaws, and I'm no chest pounding nationalist, but I'd say it's the greatest country simply for the fact of everything being discussed going on in this country is able to be openly debated, challenged and changed. Some of the things we do are shitty and some are great, but over time it seems that we tend to figure it out and those among us who care enough, push the change ahead. Donald Trump just made everyone realize that we're not as close to getting it right as we thought.PJ_Soul said:So what's the conclusion for this thread? A resounding NO, right?
This is the weirdness you hear on the US cable news shows about how unique the US is with its freedom of speech and availability to voice openings. IN WHAT MODERN DEMOCRACY IS THAT NOT POSSIBLE?!
Do you think we in Sweden and are not able to openly debate, challenge or change?
Please describe to me this big chasm you speak of that makes the US "the greatest" because of it?
You already have Steve King, Iowa Republican, neo nazi in all but name. He has long been known as a white nationalist. Here's an article that gives some detail on the interview he gave in August to a far right publication in Austria:
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/iowa-rep-steve-king-austria-white-nationalist_us_5bca4851e4b0a8f17eec6001
He has long-time connections to neo-nazis in Europe. He has also argued publicly that only whites have "contributed to civilization".
Plus he supports dog fighting, cock fighting, trophy hunting, and puppy mills. He's an all around terrible person.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
All politics has racist elements and some hide it some show it. All countries are now having a party for racists to follow.
The size of our country is not relative to the population size. I still think the people make the country . Either great or not. I may be unpopular but the amount of knuckle dragging idiots is large and the more people the higher the number.
On these boards we are blessed with open people in the main.
We can learn and see eachother view point. The whole world is not like that.
The nicest people I've encountered on my many travels have been the poorest or worse off. Also as a nation the Dutch and Irish have been the ones I've noticed as most genuinely friendly.
Some Americans I've met seem over the top and a bit fake
But hey they can be anywhere.
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America is such a large country with so many different types of people in it. There are fake people and there are genuine people. My family comes from Ireland and everyone but me has visited Cork and Kinsale and found the people to be wonderful. They embraced my family as 'cusins', even though they many be decent cousins and were extremely inviting.lastexitlondon said:All politics has racist elements and some hide it some show it. All countries are now having a party for racists to follow.
The size of our country is not relative to the population size. I still think the people make the country . Either great or not. I may be unpopular but the amount of knuckle dragging idiots is large and the more people the higher the number.
On these boards we are blessed with open people in the main.
We can learn and see eachother view point. The whole world is not like that.
The nicest people I've encountered on my many travels have been the poorest or worse off. Also as a nation the Dutch and Irish have been the ones I've noticed as most genuinely friendly.
Some Americans I've met seem over the top and a bit fake
But hey they can be anywhere.
It is a completely non-scientific opinion but I spent over 5 years as a waitress while in college and I found the nicest customers and the best tippers were regular and 'poor' people. Even within my own family and circle of acquaintances I have found that those who are the most well off are the worst tippers while being the pickiest and most demanding.. As a person who worked in that industry for so long, I consider how someone tips to be indicative of who they are in many ways. It's subjective, but it's my experience.
I find it hard to answer the question about America being the best country at this point in our history. But there are the leaders of countries and then there are the people within countries. Depending on what system of government each country has, the government reflects or does not reflect the majority of the citizens. If we did not use the electoral college for Presidential elections, we would have a very different President. So I take comfort in the fact that the majority of those who bothered to vote did not vote for our current President. He is a bad man, always has been and the fact that he has made it into the White House makes me question many things about our country. And the future of our country. He is so loud and constant and boorish that it perpetuates the stereotype of the loud arrogant American every hour of every day. It just doesn't stop. He is also dangerous because he is drunk on power. And he blatantly lies and brings out the worst in a portion of our country.
I do not have the luxury of traveling the world, and those who can - more power to you. I wish I were able to experience what it is like to live in other parts of the world. We are so integrated and this nationalist thing going on right now is fueled by fear and fear can be very strong but is not sustainable.
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Bolton is over there right now shaking his hand ..njnancy said:Fuck Putin.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
And how much you wanna bet they did shots of vodka while watching the PTape?josevolution said:
Bolton is over there right now shaking his hand ..njnancy said:Fuck Putin.
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