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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,519
    PJ_Soul said:
    jeffbr said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    jeffbr said:
    Obama could have had his AG remove marijuana from its Schedule 1 classification. He didn't need congress. But he didn't care enough about the issue, and I consider that one of his failings. Granted, many great accomplishments, but this wasn't a bright spot for me. We had an opportunity, with a president from a newer generation who admitted to smoking weed, during a time where states were legalizing medical use, and beginning to legalize recreational use, and there was public support for legalization. He screwed up a great opportunity. Now we have a 5' 3", slow-talking, anti-weed hillbilly as the AG and a slow-thinking clown as President and a congress led by morons. So federal declassification of weed will have to wait until we enter a more enlightened period.
    Yes, if it was as easy as you make it sound, then that was a mistake. I have trouble believing it would have been that easy though... so what, he could have got his AG to just sign something, and done?? If so, then yeah, wtf? Surely there was something relevant stopping that from happening.
    Yup. The most direct way would be for Congress to do it, which is what Obama suggested should happen. But there is also an administrative way for the executive branch to do so as well.

    How to reschedule marijuana, and why it’s unlikely anytime soon

    and apparently the HHS Secretary can unilaterally do it, which I didn't know:

    Removal of cannabis from Schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act

    I guess Obama wanted to do it "democratically" (haha) or not at all?
    which is funny, since he was constantly mocked by the right as being th executive order president. 
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    If Obama at any point received money from the pharmaceutical lobby, then any pro-cannabis talk was just paying lip service to those in the base that are pro-legalization.  
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  • helplessdancer
    helplessdancer Posts: 5,293
    i remember my first trip to amsterdam in the early 1980's and having that feeling of being free(unparanoid). it was unlike anything i had ever experienced as a pot smoking teenager turned young adult. it should have never been illegal in the first place. i went back many times to that great country to get that feeling. 
    now canada has made cannabis legal and that WORLD DIAL can never be turned back. its a massive wave forward for the world so congrats to canada for that !! i hope the wave continues because all drugs should be legal. imo
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    helplessdancer said:
    i remember my first trip to amsterdam in the early 1980's and having that feeling of being free(unparanoid). it was unlike anything i had ever experienced as a pot smoking teenager turned young adult. it should have never been illegal in the first place. i went back many times to that great country to get that feeling. 
    now canada has made cannabis legal and that WORLD DIAL can never be turned back. its a massive wave forward for the world so congrats to canada for that !! i hope the wave continues because all drugs should be legal. imo
    All drugs should not be legal.  You think heroin should be legal? meth? people that partake in those drugs cause society to many problems.

    Cannabis legal no problem!  I draw the line at those disgusting needle users who get so stoned they leave their dirty needles in the playground and schoolyards...no sympathy for those disgusting fuckers.
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  • helplessdancer
    helplessdancer Posts: 5,293
    heroin/meth/coke etc addiction is a mental health crisis and a disease
    those people need to be treated and arresting them as criminals does NOTHING. absolutely nothing! we are not winning any drug war ever.
    ...but carry on in your in own mind if you think you are right.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Meltdown99 said:
    helplessdancer said:
    i remember my first trip to amsterdam in the early 1980's and having that feeling of being free(unparanoid). it was unlike anything i had ever experienced as a pot smoking teenager turned young adult. it should have never been illegal in the first place. i went back many times to that great country to get that feeling. 
    now canada has made cannabis legal and that WORLD DIAL can never be turned back. its a massive wave forward for the world so congrats to canada for that !! i hope the wave continues because all drugs should be legal. imo
    All drugs should not be legal.  You think heroin should be legal? meth? people that partake in those drugs cause society to many problems.

    Cannabis legal no problem!  I draw the line at those disgusting needle users who get so stoned they leave their dirty needles in the playground and schoolyards...no sympathy for those disgusting fuckers.
    You voted for a drug dealer (Ford) so spare us the indignation.
  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    Meltdown99 said:
    helplessdancer said:
    i remember my first trip to amsterdam in the early 1980's and having that feeling of being free(unparanoid). it was unlike anything i had ever experienced as a pot smoking teenager turned young adult. it should have never been illegal in the first place. i went back many times to that great country to get that feeling. 
    now canada has made cannabis legal and that WORLD DIAL can never be turned back. its a massive wave forward for the world so congrats to canada for that !! i hope the wave continues because all drugs should be legal. imo
    All drugs should not be legal.  You think heroin should be legal? meth? people that partake in those drugs cause society to many problems.

    Cannabis legal no problem!  I draw the line at those disgusting needle users who get so stoned they leave their dirty needles in the playground and schoolyards...no sympathy for those disgusting fuckers.
    yes all drugs should be legal, I am surprised that you (the person who wants the government to stay out of people lives) has a problem with what people want to do to their own body.  as for needles in the playgrounds and schoolyards, one of the big issues is that substance users have been harassed by people and police so much that they have to hide.  if we made all "drugs" legal and provided a safe place where people can inject  then there would be less used needles on the streets. 
  • wndowpayne
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    Meltdown99 said:
    helplessdancer said:
    i remember my first trip to amsterdam in the early 1980's and having that feeling of being free(unparanoid). it was unlike anything i had ever experienced as a pot smoking teenager turned young adult. it should have never been illegal in the first place. i went back many times to that great country to get that feeling. 
    now canada has made cannabis legal and that WORLD DIAL can never be turned back. its a massive wave forward for the world so congrats to canada for that !! i hope the wave continues because all drugs should be legal. imo
    All drugs should not be legal.  You think heroin should be legal? meth? people that partake in those drugs cause society to many problems.

    Cannabis legal no problem!  I draw the line at those disgusting needle users who get so stoned they leave their dirty needles in the playground and schoolyards...no sympathy for those disgusting fuckers.
    Yes indeed, legalization would go a really long way in solving the issues you're complaining about.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Legalization or decriminalization with the correct framework of health and social supports would go a long way toward improving most of the negative outcomes we currently get with drug use, including the effects on society at large. That’s been proven elsewhere. However, you really need to put in the money and the work, or things could indeed get worse. 
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  • helplessdancer
    helplessdancer Posts: 5,293
    thanks people...i knew i wasn't the only one  ;)
    it baffles my mind the way some people think about hardcore drugs.
    it's sad and imo "they" are a definite part the reason behind the continued madness and why we have not moved forward on this  :(
    heroin is not going away with more prohibition ! imagine if we could do like canada just did with cannabis and cut away all of the profits/wars/killings etc etc that the criminals are making and getting away with? what a different world we would have!!
    anyways this thread is about cannabis and canada just got it right. yes it will be a struggle sometimes, like what colorado is going through, but we have moved forward as a planet !! long live common sense!!
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    If heroin was legal, I wouldn't do it, would you?
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    helplessdancer said:
    thanks people...i knew i wasn't the only one  ;)
    it baffles my mind the way some people think about hardcore drugs.
    it's sad and imo "they" are a definite part the reason behind the continued madness and why we have not moved forward on this  :(
    heroin is not going away with more prohibition ! imagine if we could do like canada just did with cannabis and cut away all of the profits/wars/killings etc etc that the criminals are making and getting away with? what a different world we would have!!
    anyways this thread is about cannabis and canada just got it right. yes it will be a struggle sometimes, like what colorado is going through, but we have moved forward as a planet !! long live common sense!!
    Heroin is a public health risk to those that don’t use it ... because the losers who use it haven’t got 2 brain cells to rub together and use dirty needles and leave their dirty needles where people can unknowingly be picked ...  

    Any person who injects heroin into their veins is brain dead...
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,315
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Jason P said:
    Canadian Stock tip:  Invest in maple syrup, mayo, and ketchup flavored potato chips
    Don’t need to invest in maple syrup - it’s a public utility. 
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,315
    I heard a soundbite of some canadian waiting for the pot shop to open up like they were about to put a man on the moon.  He said 'someday I will tell my kids about this and that I was there ... this is history' (not verbatim).  More likely his future ex-wife will be telling the court about that comment someday when fighting over custody of said kids.  
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,315
    edited October 2018
    This legalization is going to be bad business for Ricky, Bubbles and Julian.  Do they move on to meth?
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,315
    Canadian Parliament prior to 10/17 ...



    Canadian Parliament post 10/17 ...



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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    Jason P said:
    Canadian Parliament prior to 10/17 ...



    Canadian Parliament post 10/17 ...



    :lol:
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Congratulations, Canada!
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