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PTape.The Juggler said:It’s just so striking how our president seems so much more at ease with brutal dictators than he does with our democratic allies.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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Yep he was honored to meet a ruthless dictator he makes Putin look like Barney we don’t even know how many people have died there in the last 30 yrs !The Juggler said:It’s just so striking how our president seems so much more at ease with brutal dictators than he does with our democratic allies.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
It was a photo opp with a brutal dictator:
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That entire post is BS... millions dead will be the only option left? LOLBS44325 said:
You are advocating for war because we are at the point of no return. North Korea missle technology is reaching the point of being able to hit the continental United States. Soon after that they will learn how to mount a nuclear warhead onto one of those missles. You know as well as I that no President can in good conscience allow this. Therefore you are left with two choices 1) Do what Trump is doing or 2) Pre-emptively strike North Korea now. The risk of option 2 is millions dead. The risk of option 1 is giving Kim legitimacy while he cheats on a deal which will then lead to a fall back on option 2. There is potential for option 1 to work...there are small signs such as hostage releases, chinese pressures, positive meetings with South Korea, internal North Korean leadership changes. All of these are baby steps for sure but they are in the right direction. You should pray it succeeds otherwise millions of dead will be the only option you will have left.Halifax2TheMax said:
Geez, I don’t even have to read half way through your post before you’re beating the war drum. Have I ever advocated for war against North Korea? And that empty nuclear deal with Iran? You mean the one they were abiding by? And what exactly has changed in North Korea, Professor? Other than being showered with praise by a US president?BS44325 said:
Riiiiight...it was only a few months back that you were whining about “Fire and Fury”, “Little Rocket Man”, and “My button is bigger then your’s and it works”. I know I have been away for a while but I’m pretty amazed that you so quickly transitioned from dove to hawk. You were all cool with making empty deals with Cuba and Iran but on NK you are now the AMT John Bolton! He’s in the room by the way so don’t worry that there is nobody in Singapore is there to argue for your position...which is war I assume? Personally I like Trump’s path of engaging china, tightening sanctions, and military threats to coerce Kim Jung Un to the table followed by graciousness and potential for carrots but I suppose your war idea could work too. Also...your precious Iran deal had to be cancelled for the NK strategy to work. Iran gave up nothing and got a ton. It was a farce. North Korea needed to know that an Iran type deal is off the table.Halifax2TheMax said:
If Team Trump Treason’s cozying up to a brutal, nuclear armed dictator and giving him the prestige he seeks while simultaneously walking away from a hard fought years long negotiated nuclear deal is your idea of brilliance, you’ve sold your soul to the myth. Enjoy the shit show when nothing comes of it.BS44325 said:
The brilliance is on display right now. This is what I have been talking about since he came down the escalator. Using “crazy” as an advantage. Enjoy the show.Halifax2TheMax said:
You actually think NK is going to preemptively attack anybody?
I just don't understand how so many people are fearful of NK? They are NEVER going to attack ANYBODY, especially the USA0 -
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Easy...BS is just towing the Trump company line. He either doesn’t want to admit or doesn’t know that this is essentially the same agreement they agreed to in 2005....only this time it comes with the American president legitimizing then on the national stage. Advantage Kim Jong Un.my2hands said:
That entire post is BS... millions dead will be the only option left? LOLBS44325 said:
You are advocating for war because we are at the point of no return. North Korea missle technology is reaching the point of being able to hit the continental United States. Soon after that they will learn how to mount a nuclear warhead onto one of those missles. You know as well as I that no President can in good conscience allow this. Therefore you are left with two choices 1) Do what Trump is doing or 2) Pre-emptively strike North Korea now. The risk of option 2 is millions dead. The risk of option 1 is giving Kim legitimacy while he cheats on a deal which will then lead to a fall back on option 2. There is potential for option 1 to work...there are small signs such as hostage releases, chinese pressures, positive meetings with South Korea, internal North Korean leadership changes. All of these are baby steps for sure but they are in the right direction. You should pray it succeeds otherwise millions of dead will be the only option you will have left.Halifax2TheMax said:
Geez, I don’t even have to read half way through your post before you’re beating the war drum. Have I ever advocated for war against North Korea? And that empty nuclear deal with Iran? You mean the one they were abiding by? And what exactly has changed in North Korea, Professor? Other than being showered with praise by a US president?BS44325 said:
Riiiiight...it was only a few months back that you were whining about “Fire and Fury”, “Little Rocket Man”, and “My button is bigger then your’s and it works”. I know I have been away for a while but I’m pretty amazed that you so quickly transitioned from dove to hawk. You were all cool with making empty deals with Cuba and Iran but on NK you are now the AMT John Bolton! He’s in the room by the way so don’t worry that there is nobody in Singapore is there to argue for your position...which is war I assume? Personally I like Trump’s path of engaging china, tightening sanctions, and military threats to coerce Kim Jung Un to the table followed by graciousness and potential for carrots but I suppose your war idea could work too. Also...your precious Iran deal had to be cancelled for the NK strategy to work. Iran gave up nothing and got a ton. It was a farce. North Korea needed to know that an Iran type deal is off the table.Halifax2TheMax said:
If Team Trump Treason’s cozying up to a brutal, nuclear armed dictator and giving him the prestige he seeks while simultaneously walking away from a hard fought years long negotiated nuclear deal is your idea of brilliance, you’ve sold your soul to the myth. Enjoy the shit show when nothing comes of it.BS44325 said:
The brilliance is on display right now. This is what I have been talking about since he came down the escalator. Using “crazy” as an advantage. Enjoy the show.Halifax2TheMax said:
You actually think NK is going to preemptively attack anybody?
I just don't understand how so many people are fearful of NK? They are NEVER going to attack ANYBODY, especially the USAwww.myspace.com0 -
LolBS44325 said:
Oh. They’re really doing a bang up job of running things.mrussel1 said:
The free, first world.BS44325 said:
Is the G7 the world?mrussel1 said:
And shits on the G7, so he doesn't speak for the world. Yeah, that's genius.Halifax2TheMax said:
If Team Trump Treason’s cozying up to a brutal, nuclear armed dictator and giving him the prestige he seeks while simultaneously walking away from a hard fought years long negotiated nuclear deal is your idea of brilliance, you’ve sold your soul to the myth. Enjoy the shit show when nothing comes of it.BS44325 said:
The brilliance is on display right now. This is what I have been talking about since he came down the escalator. Using “crazy” as an advantage. Enjoy the show.Halifax2TheMax said:
Doom. Gloom. Doom. Gloom. Millions dead. Trump is the planets only hope.
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Maybe because our allies expect that we take care of their needs before our own.The Juggler said:It’s just so striking how our president seems so much more at ease with brutal dictators than he does with our democratic allies.0 -
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Maybe because our allies expect that we take care of their needs before our own.The Juggler said:It’s just so striking how our president seems so much more at ease with brutal dictators than he does with our democratic allies.
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You're cute.unsung said:
Maybe because our allies expect that we take care of their needs before our own.The Juggler said:It’s just so striking how our president seems so much more at ease with brutal dictators than he does with our democratic allies.www.myspace.com0 -
unsung said:
Maybe because our allies expect that we take care of their needs before our own.The Juggler said:It’s just so striking how our president seems so much more at ease with brutal dictators than he does with our democratic allies.
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How do you see this 'trade war' Trump initiated play out for the US?"My brain's a good brain!"0 -
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487Have you seen the tariffs that Canada imposes on the US?0
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How can anyone believe Team Trump Treason is credible?
Trump says now-famous G7 photo with Merkel and other leaders was just 'an innocent picture' - Business Insider https://apple.news/Ag49TFXkKR0ah8e-ZXnKXEw
So far, I’ve read, “you can have the ‘best’ hotels,” and that the agreement, and having read it, I agree, lacks any substance. Welcome to the celebrity presidency of diplomacy. Man, are we screwed.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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unsung said:Have you seen the tariffs that Canada imposes on the US?
Have you? Or are you just swallowing the ridiculous lies of Trump?
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Given that he's never complained about it before, I would assume he's swallowing it up...qontheboard said:unsung said:Have you seen the tariffs that Canada imposes on the US?
Have you? Or are you just swallowing the ridiculous lies of Trump?www.myspace.com0 -
Because Keystone, running a pipeline of one of the dirtiest types of oil produced through one of the dirtiest extraction procedures through pristine wilderness and native tribal land, contributing to greater overall greenhouse gas emissions is the same as importing poutine, eh Professor? And the G6 are going to go the way of Venezuela and Nicaragua? I’ve missed your LOL humor. No wonder you’re such a staunch Team Trump Treason supporter, it’s where you get your material.BS44325 said:
I am not arguing for a return to anything. I am still all in on free trade. That doesn’t mean that the G7 carries some weird level of importance in my mind. They’re not entitled to some special trade deal with the US when most of the time they just bitch about America. Every country tries to cheat on these deals. Every country subsidizes certain domestic industries out of political concerns. Obama jabbed Canada on Keystone and most of the AMT celebrated. Your greatest ally! If Trump wants to try to work out a better deal for his country why should I care...I would expect my leader to do the same for mine. It’s a negotiation. So spare me the “return to nationalism” nonsense. Put your worries on Turkey. Or Syria. Or Venezuela. Or Nicaraugua. Or Iran. Or North Korea. Or insert collapsing country name here. These are the places that are getting poorer, that are facing a hunger crisis, that are regressing in health. The G7, if they continue to stay on the path they’re on, in time will follow.mrussel1 said:
You're pathetically arguing for a return to the most destructive philosophy since Jacobism. Is the world getting poorer? Are we facing hunger crisis? Are we regressing in health? Obviously not. Yet you are signing on to Trumpism, a perspective you would have mocked 5 years ago as you extol free trade and laissez faire economics. I guess the principles and moral centers of all these so called conservatives run pretty shallow.BS44325 said:
Your 70 years are coming to an end and most of the G7 are completely out of ideas other then piling on debt. It’s a train careening off the track. Only boldness has the chance of stopping the collapse. The G7 isn’t bold. It’s tired. It compounds problems with out of date thinking. Boldness is in Singapore. It isn’t in Quebec.mrussel1 said:
70 plus years of intercontinental peace. More people out of poverty than ever in human history. Longest life expectancy, etc. Now remind me again of the successes of nationalism is the late 19th through mid 20th century please.BS44325 said:
Oh. They’re really doing a bang up job of running things.mrussel1 said: l.p.
The free, first world.BS44325 said:
Is the G7 the world?mrussel1 said:
And shits on the G7, so he doesn't speak for the world. Yeah, that's genius.Halifax2TheMax said:
If Team Trump Treason’s cozying up to a brutal, nuclear armed dictator and giving him the prestige he seeks while simultaneously walking away from a hard fought years long negotiated nuclear deal is your idea of brilliance, you’ve sold your soul to the myth. Enjoy the shit show when nothing comes of it.BS44325 said:
The brilliance is on display right now. This is what I have been talking about since he came down the escalator. Using “crazy” as an advantage. Enjoy the show.Halifax2TheMax said:
Ps, your debt comment is laughable at best. Tell me again how the republicans balance the budget, after reading last month's deficit numbers.
Ps, your federal tax revenue is at an all time high even with the tax cuts. You are correct about the deficits though. It is a spending problem you have. Social Security and Medicaide are going insolvent. It will be almost impossible to fix without pain. This is the entire point that I am making...the rest of the G7 is in even worse shape then the US! At least the US is doing something to produce growth. A country needs growth to even attempt to get out of the hole. It is not laughable. It is proof of the collapse to come.
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If anyone thinks Canada can win a trade war with the US ... that's delusional.
One of the big NAFTA hang - ups seems to be supply management of our dairy system. There are a lot of Canadian that wouldn't mind it coming to and end as well...Give Peas A Chance…0 -
Canada has supply management, the US subsidizes its dairy industry. Has Trump spoken about his willingness to reduce US subsidies?Meltdown99 said:If anyone thinks Canada can win a trade war with the US ... that's delusional.
One of the big NAFTA hang - ups seems to be supply management of our dairy system. There are a lot of Canadian that wouldn't mind it coming to and end as well...my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
I don't think there's many winners in a trade war on either side.Meltdown99 said:If anyone thinks Canada can win a trade war with the US ... that's delusional.
One of the big NAFTA hang - ups seems to be supply management of our dairy system. There are a lot of Canadian that wouldn't mind it coming to and end as well...
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You never answered the question.unsung said:Have you seen the tariffs that Canada imposes on the US?
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