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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,057
    Shit changes today.

    Happy new year indeed.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Didn't Mitt strap his dog to the roof of his car for a family road trip? That disqualifies you from being a "good person" in my book, regardless of politics 

    Anyway, i'm glad he is speaking out or whatever he is doing... we all know the man just wants to be POTUS
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,447
    What’s unreasonable?
    Your Catholic-like expectations of people who voted for Trump are unreasonable.  
    There are deplorables that are irredeemable, to be sure.  But there are another 10+% of the country that voted for him that are not the "base".  Shaming them or telling them to 'repent' will not win their vote.  Broaden the coalition, don't shrink it. 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,763
    Bullshit. “Left wing righteousness?” Oh please.
     
    well, keep on telling perfectly reasonable people who simply like all the info before making a decision on any given topic how they are trump supporters and excusers of sexual abuse, and we'll see where it gets you. 
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,436
    Ignore the Trump supporters. If they still support him now they are a lost cause. There are plenty enough votes out there for Democrats to win without those cultists.
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 10,167
    I think there is a middle ground between the hell-no Halifax-ers and accolades of acceptance for Mitt reborn. I think what he did was a calculated move to start his comeback run at POTUS. He posts an Op-Ed in WaPo, which Trump has labelled fake news and biased on numerous occasions, so Mitt's intention isn't to appeal to the Trump base, but to get some street cred with the undecided and swing votes. He knows that no liberal is going to switch sides for his meatloaf eating ass, but in the face of a pompous lying narcissist, he looks pretty damn good, even if it is just some half-baked words with no follow-up action. I'm sure he would also love to serve up some vengeance on the orange turd king of Joshua Tree National Park, but many others have failed when they have attacked so he will play it conservatively, like he should. I doubt much will change, but Mitt does bring the Republican ticket back toward a more stable trajectory. I am tentatively optimistic.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • well, keep on telling perfectly reasonable people who simply like all the info before making a decision on any given topic how they are trump supporters and excusers of sexual abuse, and we'll see where it gets you. 
    WTF? You’ve lost me. If those who voted/supported Team Trump Treason haven’t seen the error of their ways and continue to support/vote for him again then they are indeed a lost cause and are endorsing corruption and incompetence to the highest degree. I don’t want any part of them and they can go fuck themselves. Seems to me Team Trump Treason’s disregard for the common good and endorsement of the worst of humanity is being normalized. USA, USA, USA!
     
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,111
    WTF? You’ve lost me. If those who voted/supported Team Trump Treason haven’t seen the error of their ways and continue to support/vote for him again then they are indeed a lost cause and are endorsing corruption and incompetence to the highest degree. I don’t want any part of them and they can go fuck themselves. Seems to me Team Trump Treason’s disregard for the common good and endorsement of the worst of humanity is being normalized. USA, USA, USA!
     
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  • dignin said:
    Ignore the Trump supporters. If they still support him now they are a lost cause. There are plenty enough votes out there for Democrats to win without those cultists.

    Agreed. F**k 'em. No respect.

    Fool me once... fool me twice.

    * I'm okay with those that have broken from the herd after realizing America wasn't becoming great again. They f**ked up. They realize they f**ked up. They're ready to atone for their f**k up. Lots of people get tricked by people wearing red hats made in China.
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  • Worst one year stock market performance in a decade and another drop of 600+ plus points thus far today. Happy new year and thanks Team Trump Treason. Build the wall. Speaking of which, what happened to the invasion? Did the troops go home?
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  • mrussel1 said:
    Your Catholic-like expectations of people who voted for Trump are unreasonable.  
    There are deplorables that are irredeemable, to be sure.  But there are another 10+% of the country that voted for him that are not the "base".  Shaming them or telling them to 'repent' will not win their vote.  Broaden the coalition, don't shrink it. 
    I’m not shaming them to vote Democrat, I’m shaming them for voting or supporting Team Trump Treason and shaming them to speak the fuck up against the idiot in chief and support someone within their party more capable and intelligent. Team Trump Treason should be primaried by several candidates at least. If not, they’re normalizing this train wreck. How can anyone who claims any religiosity support Team Trump Treason? Where are the outraged clergy? Those evangelicals? Fucking hypocrites. This is the chorus I’m referring to. One lone Mormon and his op-Ed ain’t going to change a thing.
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,451
    I’m not shaming them to vote Democrat, I’m shaming them for voting or supporting Team Trump Treason and shaming them to speak the fuck up against the idiot in chief and support someone within their party more capable and intelligent. Team Trump Treason should be primaried by several candidates at least. If not, they’re normalizing this train wreck. How can anyone who claims any religiosity support Team Trump Treason? Where are the outraged clergy? Those evangelicals? Fucking hypocrites. This is the chorus I’m referring to. One lone Mormon and his op-Ed ain’t going to change a thing.
    Too many of them will split the vote.  Hopefully one semi-tolerable one rises to the top and gives him a run.  However, while working out last night one of the TVs was on MSNBC, which showed a poll that Trump has 88% approval from Republicans.  I don't see him losing the nomination.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,569
    mrussel1 said:
    You want a chorus, but you criticize the solo.  How about taking one at a time?  Winning in politics is not about slaying your opponent, it's about getting more people to vote for your position.  Telling people who made a mistake or didn't speak loudly enough for your liking to "own this" is not the way to convince those people of your righteous position and to join you.  
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,569
    OnWis97 said:
    Too many of them will split the vote.  Hopefully one semi-tolerable one rises to the top and gives him a run.  However, while working out last night one of the TVs was on MSNBC, which showed a poll that Trump has 88% approval from Republicans.  I don't see him losing the nomination.
    They should've even focus on the primaries. Someone should run as an independent and be the sacrificial lamb...
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,247
    Did he vote Hillary? 
    This is a good question. I would very much like to know how Republicans who claim to hate Trump voted in 2016. I mean, Trump won with far more votes than there are actual Trump fans, so, you know, that's telling when it comes to how much blame rests with so-called sound minded Republicans.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,569
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    "Too little too late..." What a bunch of horse shit. So when it comes time to vote on impeachment, I'm guessing you don't want their votes either? Because, you know, that will be a bit later on. Get real, man. Republicans during Watergate didn't turn on Nixon until the very end. 

    All rational people would've preferred the repubs to have been up in arms from day one (like most are in private, apparently), but that's not reality, unfortunately. The real test will be when the Mueller shit finally hits the fan and there's no way to excuse what's in the report. Mitt's op-ed was a nice start to the new congress. Sets the right tone. Gotta be patient and let this play out...
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,447
    PJ_Soul said:
    This is a good question. I would very much like to know how Republicans who claim to hate Trump voted in 2016. I mean, Trump won with far more votes than there are actual Trump fans, so, you know, that's telling when it comes to how much blame rests with so-called sound minded Republicans.
    Probably voted for Evan McMullin.  
  • "Too little too late..." What a bunch of horse shit. So when it comes time to vote on impeachment, I'm guessing you don't want their votes either? Because, you know, that will be a bit later on. Get real, man. Republicans during Watergate didn't turn on Nixon until the very end. 

    All rational people would've preferred the repubs to have been up in arms from day one (like most are in private, apparently), but that's not reality, unfortunately. The real test will be when the Mueller shit finally hits the fan and there's no way to excuse what's in the report. Mitt's op-ed was a nice start to the new congress. Sets the right tone. Gotta be patient and let this play out...
    The Dems have the votes in the house for impeachment so I’m not worried about that. The real proof will be whether 20 repubs in the senate will have a spine to convict and remove him from office. 11 of those 20 are up for re-election in 2020. If they don’t vote to convict, based on factual evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors via Team Mueller, and not chants of lock him up and get re-elected, what do we have then? The drum beat and the chorus needs to start now with Repubs pressuring their repub representatives to allow the Team Mueller investigation to go go forth and be released publically without hindrance. Waiting until impeachment hearings or the release of Team Mueller’s report is too late. And we need more prominent repubs to be speaking up and out forcefully, joining Mitt. Paging Tom I’m a Warrior Hear Me Roar Cotton? Did you see or read of what Team Trump Treason spouted yesterday? Do you not see what further erosion of civil rights and protections he’s proposing? And yet 88% of repubs support him. Yea, I’m impatient because his fascist and nationalist ways are being normalized. Hell, his cray cray is being normalized.
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  • And this bodes well for the future. “The left hates America.” Ruined the NFL? No, Roger Goddell did that.

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,447
    And this bodes well for the future. “The left hates America.” Ruined the NFL? No, Roger Goddell did that.

    https://apple.news/AJD2xtBsWQRy3avn2WoCCTA
     
    Meh.  I'm not worried about the youth.  They are very liberal by and large.  My daughter is in business school at W&M, and she's in a business fraternity as well.  She tells me that most everyone hates Trump and his beliefs.  And this is business school.  When I was in college, that was all Young Republicans.  
  • KatKat Posts: 4,939
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • In case you missed the 90 minutes of rambling.

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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,057
    I mean come the fuck on.
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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,057
    Jesus fucking Christ
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    I love Tikis posts lol
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,569
    The Dems have the votes in the house for impeachment so I’m not worried about that. The real proof will be whether 20 repubs in the senate will have a spine to convict and remove him from office. 11 of those 20 are up for re-election in 2020. If they don’t vote to convict, based on factual evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors via Team Mueller, and not chants of lock him up and get re-elected, what do we have then? The drum beat and the chorus needs to start now with Repubs pressuring their repub representatives to allow the Team Mueller investigation to go go forth and be released publically without hindrance. Waiting until impeachment hearings or the release of Team Mueller’s report is too late. And we need more prominent repubs to be speaking up and out forcefully, joining Mitt. Paging Tom I’m a Warrior Hear Me Roar Cotton? Did you see or read of what Team Trump Treason spouted yesterday? Do you not see what further erosion of civil rights and protections he’s proposing? And yet 88% of repubs support him. Yea, I’m impatient because his fascist and nationalist ways are being normalized. Hell, his cray cray is being normalized.
    Mitt's in the senate, so that's obviously what I meant and it would not be too late. 

    I understand the sentiment but I don't think you're looking things as rationally as you should be. 


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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,057
    just trying to help out...
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • Mitt's in the senate, so that's obviously what I meant and it would not be too late. 

    I understand the sentiment but I don't think you're looking things as rationally as you should be. 


    Rationally? What’s not rational is Team Trump Treason rambling incoherently for 90 minutes while those who remain in his cabinet look sheepishly on and remain silent. And the repub establishment and echo chamber go on tv and rationalize it away likes it’s just an awe shucks moment. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,569
    Rationally? What’s not rational is Team Trump Treason rambling incoherently for 90 minutes while those who remain in his cabinet look sheepishly on and remain silent. And the repub establishment and echo chamber go on tv and rationalize it away likes it’s just an awe shucks moment. 
    Oh-my-god. Yeah, I get it. However, this is the real world, man. It's a good thing that Mitt spoke out so early. Be happy. Be patient.

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