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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,829
    Kat said:
    I don't think this could  happen but I could see a Biden/O'Rourke team in the WH. Biden's experience to right the ship and O'Rourke learning all he needs for governing in a follow-up run in the future. There's a lot to learn about all the other candidates who want to run so this is just an early thought...experience in governing is key to me though. I could also see Biden/Warren or Biden/Harris. Happy New Year to you all. I hope you had a wonderful evening and will have a great year ahead. :)
    I can't remember where I heard the discussion but I remember some talking heads saying that they could see Biden running with O'Rourke where Biden basically says he is just going to serve one term due to his age, with the idea of handing the reigns to O'Rourke after that term.

    I could get into that.
    What about Warren running?  That is a big possibility.
    I think she's great.  I worry that the GOP has beaten her up so badly with this pocahontas crap that she might be damaged from that.  She can definitely fight her way out of it.  I fear that this stupid country just can't elect a woman yet.
    I agree with this word-for-word.  She’ll be the most Hilary-like option because of the hate building up and because she’s a woman(lots of redundancy there).  I don’t think we’re ready to elect a Democrat woman...maybe a hard-core conservative woman but not a center-to-left woman.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    edited January 2019
    Tiki said:
    Mitt is not to be trusted.
    ^this

    also, tRUmp brought this on himself.  Now any GOP who wants to make a name for themselves is going to come out swinging.  Any GOP who wants to throw their hat in the ring for the next election knows they are going to have to out-tRUmp tRUmp with insults and bad nicknames.  

    In an ideal world, it won't matter bc tRUmp will end up in jail or resigned.  If anyone in the GOP believes tRUmp won't last another term, they really have nothing to lose politically by attacking him.  I expect to see the rate at which the GOP cannibalizes itself to accelerate in the coming months.  
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,986
    OnWis97 said:
    Kat said:
    I don't think this could  happen but I could see a Biden/O'Rourke team in the WH. Biden's experience to right the ship and O'Rourke learning all he needs for governing in a follow-up run in the future. There's a lot to learn about all the other candidates who want to run so this is just an early thought...experience in governing is key to me though. I could also see Biden/Warren or Biden/Harris. Happy New Year to you all. I hope you had a wonderful evening and will have a great year ahead. :)
    I can't remember where I heard the discussion but I remember some talking heads saying that they could see Biden running with O'Rourke where Biden basically says he is just going to serve one term due to his age, with the idea of handing the reigns to O'Rourke after that term.

    I could get into that.
    What about Warren running?  That is a big possibility.
    I think she's great.  I worry that the GOP has beaten her up so badly with this pocahontas crap that she might be damaged from that.  She can definitely fight her way out of it.  I fear that this stupid country just can't elect a woman yet.
    I agree with this word-for-word.  She’ll be the most Hilary-like option because of the hate building up and because she’s a woman(lots of redundancy there).  I don’t think we’re ready to elect a Democrat woman...maybe a hard-core conservative woman but not a center-to-left woman.
    The right is very effective at destroying dem women...even right wing women join in
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,547
    Hi! said:
    Trump is very beatable. I dont see how he is gaining support. Sure, he has his base, but I see him losing support amongst moderates and swing voters, and definitely women. Add a more enthusiastic suport of the dem nominee in 2020 to offset the small vote differances in swing states, very beatable.

    I don't see how he wins Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania again.  Stranger things have happened though (like him winning the first time).
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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    There’s no vision there. Just a call to be who one should be pre Team Trump Treason. Given that, repub policies are still ruinous to the average person. Bain Capital and leveraged buyouts is what MAGA is all about. Fuck Mitt and his magic underwear.
    Easy on the LDS insults.  Let's not pretend that we will have mainline conservatives suddenly signing onto medicare for all, or that they will be anti-tax cuts.  This isn't the real world.  But it's important to have real conservatives appropriately criticizing Trump's behavior.  Romney did that day one and I commend him for that.  I welcome any other conservative, Kasich, Sasse, anyone, to do the same.  We don't have to agree on policy to agree on being a human.  
    Do they not believe in magic underwear? How was I insulting? Regardless, the criticism of Team Trump Treason should have been outspoken the day he announced his candidacy and it should have been sustained and in depth. Instead, Mitt and others stepped aside and allowed this idiot to be elected. He owns it. If he votes for removal from office after a trial, I may give Mitt a modicum of respect. Realizing three years after the fact doesn’t grant you hero worship status.
     
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,986
    This press conference is off the charts....he just won't shut up
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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    There’s no vision there. Just a call to be who one should be pre Team Trump Treason. Given that, repub policies are still ruinous to the average person. Bain Capital and leveraged buyouts is what MAGA is all about. Fuck Mitt and his magic underwear.
    Easy on the LDS insults.  Let's not pretend that we will have mainline conservatives suddenly signing onto medicare for all, or that they will be anti-tax cuts.  This isn't the real world.  But it's important to have real conservatives appropriately criticizing Trump's behavior.  Romney did that day one and I commend him for that.  I welcome any other conservative, Kasich, Sasse, anyone, to do the same.  We don't have to agree on policy to agree on being a human.  
    Do they not believe in magic underwear? How was I insulting? Regardless, the criticism of Team Trump Treason should have been outspoken the day he announced his candidacy and it should have been sustained and in depth. Instead, Mitt and others stepped aside and allowed this idiot to be elected. He owns it. If he votes for removal from office after a trial, I may give Mitt a modicum of respect. Realizing three years after the fact doesn’t grant you hero worship status.
     

    Maybe if we agreed to call them 'magic gonch' it would be better?
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,677
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    There’s no vision there. Just a call to be who one should be pre Team Trump Treason. Given that, repub policies are still ruinous to the average person. Bain Capital and leveraged buyouts is what MAGA is all about. Fuck Mitt and his magic underwear.
    Easy on the LDS insults.  Let's not pretend that we will have mainline conservatives suddenly signing onto medicare for all, or that they will be anti-tax cuts.  This isn't the real world.  But it's important to have real conservatives appropriately criticizing Trump's behavior.  Romney did that day one and I commend him for that.  I welcome any other conservative, Kasich, Sasse, anyone, to do the same.  We don't have to agree on policy to agree on being a human.  
    Do they not believe in magic underwear? How was I insulting? Regardless, the criticism of Team Trump Treason should have been outspoken the day he announced his candidacy and it should have been sustained and in depth. Instead, Mitt and others stepped aside and allowed this idiot to be elected. He owns it. If he votes for removal from office after a trial, I may give Mitt a modicum of respect. Realizing three years after the fact doesn’t grant you hero worship status.
     
    Be that as it may, the country needs advocates for righteousness and the rule of law.  I don't care what any politician thinks about the marginal tax rate at this point.  Anyone who joins the team with teh moral compass, I welcome them regardless of when they join.  
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,248
    Trump ragging on any Repub who has talked bad about him now; Romney, Corker and Flake...
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,248
    Look at this ridiculous idiot and his childish pose with his poster like a movie release.

    It's a hopeless situation...
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,315
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    There’s no vision there. Just a call to be who one should be pre Team Trump Treason. Given that, repub policies are still ruinous to the average person. Bain Capital and leveraged buyouts is what MAGA is all about. Fuck Mitt and his magic underwear.
    Easy on the LDS insults.  Let's not pretend that we will have mainline conservatives suddenly signing onto medicare for all, or that they will be anti-tax cuts.  This isn't the real world.  But it's important to have real conservatives appropriately criticizing Trump's behavior.  Romney did that day one and I commend him for that.  I welcome any other conservative, Kasich, Sasse, anyone, to do the same.  We don't have to agree on policy to agree on being a human.  
    Do they not believe in magic underwear? How was I insulting? Regardless, the criticism of Team Trump Treason should have been outspoken the day he announced his candidacy and it should have been sustained and in depth. Instead, Mitt and others stepped aside and allowed this idiot to be elected. He owns it. If he votes for removal from office after a trial, I may give Mitt a modicum of respect. Realizing three years after the fact doesn’t grant you hero worship status.
     
    Be that as it may, the country needs advocates for righteousness and the rule of law.  I don't care what any politician thinks about the marginal tax rate at this point.  Anyone who joins the team with teh moral compass, I welcome them regardless of when they join.  
    Exactly.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,315
    Hi! said:
    Trump is very beatable. I dont see how he is gaining support. Sure, he has his base, but I see him losing support amongst moderates and swing voters, and definitely women. Add a more enthusiastic suport of the dem nominee in 2020 to offset the small vote differances in swing states, very beatable.

    I don't see how he wins Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania again.  Stranger things have happened though (like him winning the first time).
    Ummm....It is more likely than not that he loses those states this time around given his poll numbers and the way things went for him in those states a couple months ago. 
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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    There’s no vision there. Just a call to be who one should be pre Team Trump Treason. Given that, repub policies are still ruinous to the average person. Bain Capital and leveraged buyouts is what MAGA is all about. Fuck Mitt and his magic underwear.
    Easy on the LDS insults.  Let's not pretend that we will have mainline conservatives suddenly signing onto medicare for all, or that they will be anti-tax cuts.  This isn't the real world.  But it's important to have real conservatives appropriately criticizing Trump's behavior.  Romney did that day one and I commend him for that.  I welcome any other conservative, Kasich, Sasse, anyone, to do the same.  We don't have to agree on policy to agree on being a human.  
    Do they not believe in magic underwear? How was I insulting? Regardless, the criticism of Team Trump Treason should have been outspoken the day he announced his candidacy and it should have been sustained and in depth. Instead, Mitt and others stepped aside and allowed this idiot to be elected. He owns it. If he votes for removal from office after a trial, I may give Mitt a modicum of respect. Realizing three years after the fact doesn’t grant you hero worship status.
     
    Be that as it may, the country needs advocates for righteousness and the rule of law.  I don't care what any politician thinks about the marginal tax rate at this point.  Anyone who joins the team with teh moral compass, I welcome them regardless of when they join.  
    Sounds more like Mitt is positioning himself for a 2020 challenge. He’ll go along with Mitchy baby more often than not. Now, if he changed parties because of the repubs being the Team Trump Treason party? That would be cajones.

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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,315
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    There’s no vision there. Just a call to be who one should be pre Team Trump Treason. Given that, repub policies are still ruinous to the average person. Bain Capital and leveraged buyouts is what MAGA is all about. Fuck Mitt and his magic underwear.
    Easy on the LDS insults.  Let's not pretend that we will have mainline conservatives suddenly signing onto medicare for all, or that they will be anti-tax cuts.  This isn't the real world.  But it's important to have real conservatives appropriately criticizing Trump's behavior.  Romney did that day one and I commend him for that.  I welcome any other conservative, Kasich, Sasse, anyone, to do the same.  We don't have to agree on policy to agree on being a human.  
    Do they not believe in magic underwear? How was I insulting? Regardless, the criticism of Team Trump Treason should have been outspoken the day he announced his candidacy and it should have been sustained and in depth. Instead, Mitt and others stepped aside and allowed this idiot to be elected. He owns it. If he votes for removal from office after a trial, I may give Mitt a modicum of respect. Realizing three years after the fact doesn’t grant you hero worship status.
     
    Be that as it may, the country needs advocates for righteousness and the rule of law.  I don't care what any politician thinks about the marginal tax rate at this point.  Anyone who joins the team with teh moral compass, I welcome them regardless of when they join.  
    Sounds more like Mitt is positioning himself for a 2020 challenge. He’ll go along with Mitchy baby more often than not. Now, if he changed parties because of the repubs being the Team Trump Treason party? That would be cajones.

     #walkawaymitt
    He is a republican. Do you expect him not to vote for typical republican things?

    There's a difference between voting for republican policy stuff and for calling out the president when it is necessary and when it will really count once the Mueller report is out....
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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    There’s no vision there. Just a call to be who one should be pre Team Trump Treason. Given that, repub policies are still ruinous to the average person. Bain Capital and leveraged buyouts is what MAGA is all about. Fuck Mitt and his magic underwear.
    Easy on the LDS insults.  Let's not pretend that we will have mainline conservatives suddenly signing onto medicare for all, or that they will be anti-tax cuts.  This isn't the real world.  But it's important to have real conservatives appropriately criticizing Trump's behavior.  Romney did that day one and I commend him for that.  I welcome any other conservative, Kasich, Sasse, anyone, to do the same.  We don't have to agree on policy to agree on being a human.  
    Do they not believe in magic underwear? How was I insulting? Regardless, the criticism of Team Trump Treason should have been outspoken the day he announced his candidacy and it should have been sustained and in depth. Instead, Mitt and others stepped aside and allowed this idiot to be elected. He owns it. If he votes for removal from office after a trial, I may give Mitt a modicum of respect. Realizing three years after the fact doesn’t grant you hero worship status.
     
    Be that as it may, the country needs advocates for righteousness and the rule of law.  I don't care what any politician thinks about the marginal tax rate at this point.  Anyone who joins the team with teh moral compass, I welcome them regardless of when they join.  
    Sounds more like Mitt is positioning himself for a 2020 challenge. He’ll go along with Mitchy baby more often than not. Now, if he changed parties because of the repubs being the Team Trump Treason party? That would be cajones.

     #walkawaymitt
    He is a republican. Do you expect him not to vote for typical republican things?

    There's a difference between voting for republican policy stuff and for calling out the president when it is necessary and when it will really count once the Mueller report is out....
    And Mitts been consistent. He called out Trump during the primary. 


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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,677
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    There’s no vision there. Just a call to be who one should be pre Team Trump Treason. Given that, repub policies are still ruinous to the average person. Bain Capital and leveraged buyouts is what MAGA is all about. Fuck Mitt and his magic underwear.
    Easy on the LDS insults.  Let's not pretend that we will have mainline conservatives suddenly signing onto medicare for all, or that they will be anti-tax cuts.  This isn't the real world.  But it's important to have real conservatives appropriately criticizing Trump's behavior.  Romney did that day one and I commend him for that.  I welcome any other conservative, Kasich, Sasse, anyone, to do the same.  We don't have to agree on policy to agree on being a human.  
    Do they not believe in magic underwear? How was I insulting? Regardless, the criticism of Team Trump Treason should have been outspoken the day he announced his candidacy and it should have been sustained and in depth. Instead, Mitt and others stepped aside and allowed this idiot to be elected. He owns it. If he votes for removal from office after a trial, I may give Mitt a modicum of respect. Realizing three years after the fact doesn’t grant you hero worship status.
     
    Be that as it may, the country needs advocates for righteousness and the rule of law.  I don't care what any politician thinks about the marginal tax rate at this point.  Anyone who joins the team with teh moral compass, I welcome them regardless of when they join.  
    Sounds more like Mitt is positioning himself for a 2020 challenge. He’ll go along with Mitchy baby more often than not. Now, if he changed parties because of the repubs being the Team Trump Treason party? That would be cajones.

     #walkawaymitt
    Position away... He's not going to change parties because he believes in Republican things.  We'll get back to our regularly scheduled political fighting once this embarrassment is gone.  
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    He kissed the ring trying to get the SOS spot... fuck em,  and his magic undies lol 
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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    There’s no vision there. Just a call to be who one should be pre Team Trump Treason. Given that, repub policies are still ruinous to the average person. Bain Capital and leveraged buyouts is what MAGA is all about. Fuck Mitt and his magic underwear.
    Easy on the LDS insults.  Let's not pretend that we will have mainline conservatives suddenly signing onto medicare for all, or that they will be anti-tax cuts.  This isn't the real world.  But it's important to have real conservatives appropriately criticizing Trump's behavior.  Romney did that day one and I commend him for that.  I welcome any other conservative, Kasich, Sasse, anyone, to do the same.  We don't have to agree on policy to agree on being a human.  
    Do they not believe in magic underwear? How was I insulting? Regardless, the criticism of Team Trump Treason should have been outspoken the day he announced his candidacy and it should have been sustained and in depth. Instead, Mitt and others stepped aside and allowed this idiot to be elected. He owns it. If he votes for removal from office after a trial, I may give Mitt a modicum of respect. Realizing three years after the fact doesn’t grant you hero worship status.
     
    Be that as it may, the country needs advocates for righteousness and the rule of law.  I don't care what any politician thinks about the marginal tax rate at this point.  Anyone who joins the team with teh moral compass, I welcome them regardless of when they join.  
    Sounds more like Mitt is positioning himself for a 2020 challenge. He’ll go along with Mitchy baby more often than not. Now, if he changed parties because of the repubs being the Team Trump Treason party? That would be cajones.

     #walkawaymitt
    He is a republican. Do you expect him not to vote for typical republican things?

    There's a difference between voting for republican policy stuff and for calling out the president when it is necessary and when it will really count once the Mueller report is out....
    And Mitts been consistent. He called out Trump during the primary. 


    And he also trekked on over to the White House and kissed Team Trump Treason’s ass, perhaps for SoS consideration? Unless there are actual actions taken by repubs to oppose Team Trump Treason, it’s all empty rhetoric. Publically calling for investigations, publically supporting Team Mueller and legislation that does so and publically opposing legislation like a fucking border wall that Mexico will pay for, will get my attention. A one and done op-ed is meaningless unless his actions in the senate oppose Team Trump Treason’s incompetence. Like unqualified judicial nominees, the wall, withdrawal from treaties, etc. The repubs are still afraid of him and his idiot base.
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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    There’s no vision there. Just a call to be who one should be pre Team Trump Treason. Given that, repub policies are still ruinous to the average person. Bain Capital and leveraged buyouts is what MAGA is all about. Fuck Mitt and his magic underwear.
    Easy on the LDS insults.  Let's not pretend that we will have mainline conservatives suddenly signing onto medicare for all, or that they will be anti-tax cuts.  This isn't the real world.  But it's important to have real conservatives appropriately criticizing Trump's behavior.  Romney did that day one and I commend him for that.  I welcome any other conservative, Kasich, Sasse, anyone, to do the same.  We don't have to agree on policy to agree on being a human.  
    Do they not believe in magic underwear? How was I insulting? Regardless, the criticism of Team Trump Treason should have been outspoken the day he announced his candidacy and it should have been sustained and in depth. Instead, Mitt and others stepped aside and allowed this idiot to be elected. He owns it. If he votes for removal from office after a trial, I may give Mitt a modicum of respect. Realizing three years after the fact doesn’t grant you hero worship status.
     
    Be that as it may, the country needs advocates for righteousness and the rule of law.  I don't care what any politician thinks about the marginal tax rate at this point.  Anyone who joins the team with teh moral compass, I welcome them regardless of when they join.  
    Sounds more like Mitt is positioning himself for a 2020 challenge. He’ll go along with Mitchy baby more often than not. Now, if he changed parties because of the repubs being the Team Trump Treason party? That would be cajones.

     #walkawaymitt
    He is a republican. Do you expect him not to vote for typical republican things?

    There's a difference between voting for republican policy stuff and for calling out the president when it is necessary and when it will really count once the Mueller report is out....
    Are any of Team Trump Treason’s policies typical repub policy stuff? Muslim ban, overall immigration policy, foreign policy, etc? Tax cuts and judicial nominees are the only things I see as “typical repub things.” 
     
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    He kissed the ring trying to get the SOS spot... fuck em,  and his magic undies lol 
    I disagree with this assessment.  There are people who took some of these jobs because they see it as a duty.  What if how it really played out is that Romney went there, laid out his vision for the State and Trump said "no way", and that was that.  Does that make Romney a horrible person?  
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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    There’s no vision there. Just a call to be who one should be pre Team Trump Treason. Given that, repub policies are still ruinous to the average person. Bain Capital and leveraged buyouts is what MAGA is all about. Fuck Mitt and his magic underwear.
    Easy on the LDS insults.  Let's not pretend that we will have mainline conservatives suddenly signing onto medicare for all, or that they will be anti-tax cuts.  This isn't the real world.  But it's important to have real conservatives appropriately criticizing Trump's behavior.  Romney did that day one and I commend him for that.  I welcome any other conservative, Kasich, Sasse, anyone, to do the same.  We don't have to agree on policy to agree on being a human.  
    Do they not believe in magic underwear? How was I insulting? Regardless, the criticism of Team Trump Treason should have been outspoken the day he announced his candidacy and it should have been sustained and in depth. Instead, Mitt and others stepped aside and allowed this idiot to be elected. He owns it. If he votes for removal from office after a trial, I may give Mitt a modicum of respect. Realizing three years after the fact doesn’t grant you hero worship status.
     
    Be that as it may, the country needs advocates for righteousness and the rule of law.  I don't care what any politician thinks about the marginal tax rate at this point.  Anyone who joins the team with teh moral compass, I welcome them regardless of when they join.  
    Sounds more like Mitt is positioning himself for a 2020 challenge. He’ll go along with Mitchy baby more often than not. Now, if he changed parties because of the repubs being the Team Trump Treason party? That would be cajones.

     #walkawaymitt
    He is a republican. Do you expect him not to vote for typical republican things?

    There's a difference between voting for republican policy stuff and for calling out the president when it is necessary and when it will really count once the Mueller report is out....
    Are any of Team Trump Treason’s policies typical repub policy stuff? Muslim ban, overall immigration policy, foreign policy, etc? Tax cuts and judicial nominees are the only things I see as “typical repub things.” 
     
    No, this is precisely what I (and I think Juggler) are saying.  Romney has never supported the Muslim/immigration stuff and has been very critical of his foreign policy.  My guess is he's ant-trade war too.  
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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    There’s no vision there. Just a call to be who one should be pre Team Trump Treason. Given that, repub policies are still ruinous to the average person. Bain Capital and leveraged buyouts is what MAGA is all about. Fuck Mitt and his magic underwear.
    Easy on the LDS insults.  Let's not pretend that we will have mainline conservatives suddenly signing onto medicare for all, or that they will be anti-tax cuts.  This isn't the real world.  But it's important to have real conservatives appropriately criticizing Trump's behavior.  Romney did that day one and I commend him for that.  I welcome any other conservative, Kasich, Sasse, anyone, to do the same.  We don't have to agree on policy to agree on being a human.  
    Do they not believe in magic underwear? How was I insulting? Regardless, the criticism of Team Trump Treason should have been outspoken the day he announced his candidacy and it should have been sustained and in depth. Instead, Mitt and others stepped aside and allowed this idiot to be elected. He owns it. If he votes for removal from office after a trial, I may give Mitt a modicum of respect. Realizing three years after the fact doesn’t grant you hero worship status.
     
    Be that as it may, the country needs advocates for righteousness and the rule of law.  I don't care what any politician thinks about the marginal tax rate at this point.  Anyone who joins the team with teh moral compass, I welcome them regardless of when they join.  
    Sounds more like Mitt is positioning himself for a 2020 challenge. He’ll go along with Mitchy baby more often than not. Now, if he changed parties because of the repubs being the Team Trump Treason party? That would be cajones.

     #walkawaymitt
    He is a republican. Do you expect him not to vote for typical republican things?

    There's a difference between voting for republican policy stuff and for calling out the president when it is necessary and when it will really count once the Mueller report is out....
    And Mitts been consistent. He called out Trump during the primary. 


    And he also trekked on over to the White House and kissed Team Trump Treason’s ass, perhaps for SoS consideration? Unless there are actual actions taken by repubs to oppose Team Trump Treason, it’s all empty rhetoric. Publically calling for investigations, publically supporting Team Mueller and legislation that does so and publically opposing legislation like a fucking border wall that Mexico will pay for, will get my attention. A one and done op-ed is meaningless unless his actions in the senate oppose Team Trump Treason’s incompetence. Like unqualified judicial nominees, the wall, withdrawal from treaties, etc. The repubs are still afraid of him and his idiot base.
    You don’t know what was discussed or said. If just meeting with trump is a problem for you, then no one is good enough.

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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    There’s no vision there. Just a call to be who one should be pre Team Trump Treason. Given that, repub policies are still ruinous to the average person. Bain Capital and leveraged buyouts is what MAGA is all about. Fuck Mitt and his magic underwear.
    Easy on the LDS insults.  Let's not pretend that we will have mainline conservatives suddenly signing onto medicare for all, or that they will be anti-tax cuts.  This isn't the real world.  But it's important to have real conservatives appropriately criticizing Trump's behavior.  Romney did that day one and I commend him for that.  I welcome any other conservative, Kasich, Sasse, anyone, to do the same.  We don't have to agree on policy to agree on being a human.  
    Do they not believe in magic underwear? How was I insulting? Regardless, the criticism of Team Trump Treason should have been outspoken the day he announced his candidacy and it should have been sustained and in depth. Instead, Mitt and others stepped aside and allowed this idiot to be elected. He owns it. If he votes for removal from office after a trial, I may give Mitt a modicum of respect. Realizing three years after the fact doesn’t grant you hero worship status.
     
    Be that as it may, the country needs advocates for righteousness and the rule of law.  I don't care what any politician thinks about the marginal tax rate at this point.  Anyone who joins the team with teh moral compass, I welcome them regardless of when they join.  
    Sounds more like Mitt is positioning himself for a 2020 challenge. He’ll go along with Mitchy baby more often than not. Now, if he changed parties because of the repubs being the Team Trump Treason party? That would be cajones.

     #walkawaymitt
    He is a republican. Do you expect him not to vote for typical republican things?

    There's a difference between voting for republican policy stuff and for calling out the president when it is necessary and when it will really count once the Mueller report is out....
    And Mitts been consistent. He called out Trump during the primary. 


    And he also trekked on over to the White House and kissed Team Trump Treason’s ass, perhaps for SoS consideration? Unless there are actual actions taken by repubs to oppose Team Trump Treason, it’s all empty rhetoric. Publically calling for investigations, publically supporting Team Mueller and legislation that does so and publically opposing legislation like a fucking border wall that Mexico will pay for, will get my attention. A one and done op-ed is meaningless unless his actions in the senate oppose Team Trump Treason’s incompetence. Like unqualified judicial nominees, the wall, withdrawal from treaties, etc. The repubs are still afraid of him and his idiot base.
    You don’t know what was discussed or said. If just meeting with trump is a problem for you, then no one is good enough.

    The morality of Mitt meeting with the immoral Team Trump Treason is what I’m wrestling with. The squeaky clean Mormon Mitt meeting with and legitimizing a truce married, porn star banging, cheating on Melania immoral Team Trump Treason. I could give two shits what was discussed. Do you think it was a come to Jesus meeting? An intervention?
     
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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    There’s no vision there. Just a call to be who one should be pre Team Trump Treason. Given that, repub policies are still ruinous to the average person. Bain Capital and leveraged buyouts is what MAGA is all about. Fuck Mitt and his magic underwear.
    Easy on the LDS insults.  Let's not pretend that we will have mainline conservatives suddenly signing onto medicare for all, or that they will be anti-tax cuts.  This isn't the real world.  But it's important to have real conservatives appropriately criticizing Trump's behavior.  Romney did that day one and I commend him for that.  I welcome any other conservative, Kasich, Sasse, anyone, to do the same.  We don't have to agree on policy to agree on being a human.  
    Do they not believe in magic underwear? How was I insulting? Regardless, the criticism of Team Trump Treason should have been outspoken the day he announced his candidacy and it should have been sustained and in depth. Instead, Mitt and others stepped aside and allowed this idiot to be elected. He owns it. If he votes for removal from office after a trial, I may give Mitt a modicum of respect. Realizing three years after the fact doesn’t grant you hero worship status.
     
    Be that as it may, the country needs advocates for righteousness and the rule of law.  I don't care what any politician thinks about the marginal tax rate at this point.  Anyone who joins the team with teh moral compass, I welcome them regardless of when they join.  
    Sounds more like Mitt is positioning himself for a 2020 challenge. He’ll go along with Mitchy baby more often than not. Now, if he changed parties because of the repubs being the Team Trump Treason party? That would be cajones.

     #walkawaymitt
    He is a republican. Do you expect him not to vote for typical republican things?

    There's a difference between voting for republican policy stuff and for calling out the president when it is necessary and when it will really count once the Mueller report is out....
    And Mitts been consistent. He called out Trump during the primary. 


    And he also trekked on over to the White House and kissed Team Trump Treason’s ass, perhaps for SoS consideration? Unless there are actual actions taken by repubs to oppose Team Trump Treason, it’s all empty rhetoric. Publically calling for investigations, publically supporting Team Mueller and legislation that does so and publically opposing legislation like a fucking border wall that Mexico will pay for, will get my attention. A one and done op-ed is meaningless unless his actions in the senate oppose Team Trump Treason’s incompetence. Like unqualified judicial nominees, the wall, withdrawal from treaties, etc. The repubs are still afraid of him and his idiot base.
    You don’t know what was discussed or said. If just meeting with trump is a problem for you, then no one is good enough.

    The morality of Mitt meeting with the immoral Team Trump Treason is what I’m wrestling with. The squeaky clean Mormon Mitt meeting with and legitimizing a truce married, porn star banging, cheating on Melania immoral Team Trump Treason. I could give two shits what was discussed. Do you think it was a come to Jesus meeting? An intervention?
     
    I just think that Mitts public life speaks for itself. He has done some very good things and he certainly has far more moral credibility than many.  Who knows what was said...but he didn’t get the job.  And we are likely worse as a country because of it.

    i understand not liking his politics, but I don’t understand not be ok with him as a person. If it’s religion than you should hate Obama too since he is a Christian. 
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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    There’s no vision there. Just a call to be who one should be pre Team Trump Treason. Given that, repub policies are still ruinous to the average person. Bain Capital and leveraged buyouts is what MAGA is all about. Fuck Mitt and his magic underwear.
    Easy on the LDS insults.  Let's not pretend that we will have mainline conservatives suddenly signing onto medicare for all, or that they will be anti-tax cuts.  This isn't the real world.  But it's important to have real conservatives appropriately criticizing Trump's behavior.  Romney did that day one and I commend him for that.  I welcome any other conservative, Kasich, Sasse, anyone, to do the same.  We don't have to agree on policy to agree on being a human.  
    Do they not believe in magic underwear? How was I insulting? Regardless, the criticism of Team Trump Treason should have been outspoken the day he announced his candidacy and it should have been sustained and in depth. Instead, Mitt and others stepped aside and allowed this idiot to be elected. He owns it. If he votes for removal from office after a trial, I may give Mitt a modicum of respect. Realizing three years after the fact doesn’t grant you hero worship status.
     
    Be that as it may, the country needs advocates for righteousness and the rule of law.  I don't care what any politician thinks about the marginal tax rate at this point.  Anyone who joins the team with teh moral compass, I welcome them regardless of when they join.  
    Sounds more like Mitt is positioning himself for a 2020 challenge. He’ll go along with Mitchy baby more often than not. Now, if he changed parties because of the repubs being the Team Trump Treason party? That would be cajones.

     #walkawaymitt
    He is a republican. Do you expect him not to vote for typical republican things?

    There's a difference between voting for republican policy stuff and for calling out the president when it is necessary and when it will really count once the Mueller report is out....
    And Mitts been consistent. He called out Trump during the primary. 


    And he also trekked on over to the White House and kissed Team Trump Treason’s ass, perhaps for SoS consideration? Unless there are actual actions taken by repubs to oppose Team Trump Treason, it’s all empty rhetoric. Publically calling for investigations, publically supporting Team Mueller and legislation that does so and publically opposing legislation like a fucking border wall that Mexico will pay for, will get my attention. A one and done op-ed is meaningless unless his actions in the senate oppose Team Trump Treason’s incompetence. Like unqualified judicial nominees, the wall, withdrawal from treaties, etc. The repubs are still afraid of him and his idiot base.
    You don’t know what was discussed or said. If just meeting with trump is a problem for you, then no one is good enough.

    The morality of Mitt meeting with the immoral Team Trump Treason is what I’m wrestling with. The squeaky clean Mormon Mitt meeting with and legitimizing a truce married, porn star banging, cheating on Melania immoral Team Trump Treason. I could give two shits what was discussed. Do you think it was a come to Jesus meeting? An intervention?
     
    I just think that Mitts public life speaks for itself. He has done some very good things and he certainly has far more moral credibility than many.  Who knows what was said...but he didn’t get the job.  And we are likely worse as a country because of it.

    i understand not liking his politics, but I don’t understand not be ok with him as a person. If it’s religion than you should hate Obama too since he is a Christian. 
    I don’t think it was Obama’s “Christianity” that made it so the repubs refused to even meet with him or even be seen socializing with him. 
                                                                           
     
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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    There’s no vision there. Just a call to be who one should be pre Team Trump Treason. Given that, repub policies are still ruinous to the average person. Bain Capital and leveraged buyouts is what MAGA is all about. Fuck Mitt and his magic underwear.
    Easy on the LDS insults.  Let's not pretend that we will have mainline conservatives suddenly signing onto medicare for all, or that they will be anti-tax cuts.  This isn't the real world.  But it's important to have real conservatives appropriately criticizing Trump's behavior.  Romney did that day one and I commend him for that.  I welcome any other conservative, Kasich, Sasse, anyone, to do the same.  We don't have to agree on policy to agree on being a human.  
    Do they not believe in magic underwear? How was I insulting? Regardless, the criticism of Team Trump Treason should have been outspoken the day he announced his candidacy and it should have been sustained and in depth. Instead, Mitt and others stepped aside and allowed this idiot to be elected. He owns it. If he votes for removal from office after a trial, I may give Mitt a modicum of respect. Realizing three years after the fact doesn’t grant you hero worship status.
     
    Be that as it may, the country needs advocates for righteousness and the rule of law.  I don't care what any politician thinks about the marginal tax rate at this point.  Anyone who joins the team with teh moral compass, I welcome them regardless of when they join.  
    Sounds more like Mitt is positioning himself for a 2020 challenge. He’ll go along with Mitchy baby more often than not. Now, if he changed parties because of the repubs being the Team Trump Treason party? That would be cajones.

     #walkawaymitt
    He is a republican. Do you expect him not to vote for typical republican things?

    There's a difference between voting for republican policy stuff and for calling out the president when it is necessary and when it will really count once the Mueller report is out....
    And Mitts been consistent. He called out Trump during the primary. 


    And he also trekked on over to the White House and kissed Team Trump Treason’s ass, perhaps for SoS consideration? Unless there are actual actions taken by repubs to oppose Team Trump Treason, it’s all empty rhetoric. Publically calling for investigations, publically supporting Team Mueller and legislation that does so and publically opposing legislation like a fucking border wall that Mexico will pay for, will get my attention. A one and done op-ed is meaningless unless his actions in the senate oppose Team Trump Treason’s incompetence. Like unqualified judicial nominees, the wall, withdrawal from treaties, etc. The repubs are still afraid of him and his idiot base.
    You don’t know what was discussed or said. If just meeting with trump is a problem for you, then no one is good enough.

    The morality of Mitt meeting with the immoral Team Trump Treason is what I’m wrestling with. The squeaky clean Mormon Mitt meeting with and legitimizing a truce married, porn star banging, cheating on Melania immoral Team Trump Treason. I could give two shits what was discussed. Do you think it was a come to Jesus meeting? An intervention?
     
    I just think that Mitts public life speaks for itself. He has done some very good things and he certainly has far more moral credibility than many.  Who knows what was said...but he didn’t get the job.  And we are likely worse as a country because of it.

    i understand not liking his politics, but I don’t understand not be ok with him as a person. If it’s religion than you should hate Obama too since he is a Christian. 
    I don’t think it was Obama’s “Christianity” that made it so the repubs refused to even meet with him or even be seen socializing with him. 
                                                                           
     
    Why are you changing topics? 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,677
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    There’s no vision there. Just a call to be who one should be pre Team Trump Treason. Given that, repub policies are still ruinous to the average person. Bain Capital and leveraged buyouts is what MAGA is all about. Fuck Mitt and his magic underwear.
    Easy on the LDS insults.  Let's not pretend that we will have mainline conservatives suddenly signing onto medicare for all, or that they will be anti-tax cuts.  This isn't the real world.  But it's important to have real conservatives appropriately criticizing Trump's behavior.  Romney did that day one and I commend him for that.  I welcome any other conservative, Kasich, Sasse, anyone, to do the same.  We don't have to agree on policy to agree on being a human.  
    Do they not believe in magic underwear? How was I insulting? Regardless, the criticism of Team Trump Treason should have been outspoken the day he announced his candidacy and it should have been sustained and in depth. Instead, Mitt and others stepped aside and allowed this idiot to be elected. He owns it. If he votes for removal from office after a trial, I may give Mitt a modicum of respect. Realizing three years after the fact doesn’t grant you hero worship status.
     
    Be that as it may, the country needs advocates for righteousness and the rule of law.  I don't care what any politician thinks about the marginal tax rate at this point.  Anyone who joins the team with teh moral compass, I welcome them regardless of when they join.  
    Sounds more like Mitt is positioning himself for a 2020 challenge. He’ll go along with Mitchy baby more often than not. Now, if he changed parties because of the repubs being the Team Trump Treason party? That would be cajones.

     #walkawaymitt
    He is a republican. Do you expect him not to vote for typical republican things?

    There's a difference between voting for republican policy stuff and for calling out the president when it is necessary and when it will really count once the Mueller report is out....
    And Mitts been consistent. He called out Trump during the primary. 


    And he also trekked on over to the White House and kissed Team Trump Treason’s ass, perhaps for SoS consideration? Unless there are actual actions taken by repubs to oppose Team Trump Treason, it’s all empty rhetoric. Publically calling for investigations, publically supporting Team Mueller and legislation that does so and publically opposing legislation like a fucking border wall that Mexico will pay for, will get my attention. A one and done op-ed is meaningless unless his actions in the senate oppose Team Trump Treason’s incompetence. Like unqualified judicial nominees, the wall, withdrawal from treaties, etc. The repubs are still afraid of him and his idiot base.
    You don’t know what was discussed or said. If just meeting with trump is a problem for you, then no one is good enough.

    The morality of Mitt meeting with the immoral Team Trump Treason is what I’m wrestling with. The squeaky clean Mormon Mitt meeting with and legitimizing a truce married, porn star banging, cheating on Melania immoral Team Trump Treason. I could give two shits what was discussed. Do you think it was a come to Jesus meeting? An intervention?
     
    What was likely discussed was Mitt's vision for the foreign policy of the United States.  How can you not give a shit?  It doesn't make sense.  And remember, back just two years ago, there were many who were hopeful that Trump could be guided by rational people.  I'm not saying there was a real shot that was the case, but it was the only shot back in 2016, post election.  There was no other option.  
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,123
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    There’s no vision there. Just a call to be who one should be pre Team Trump Treason. Given that, repub policies are still ruinous to the average person. Bain Capital and leveraged buyouts is what MAGA is all about. Fuck Mitt and his magic underwear.
    Easy on the LDS insults.  Let's not pretend that we will have mainline conservatives suddenly signing onto medicare for all, or that they will be anti-tax cuts.  This isn't the real world.  But it's important to have real conservatives appropriately criticizing Trump's behavior.  Romney did that day one and I commend him for that.  I welcome any other conservative, Kasich, Sasse, anyone, to do the same.  We don't have to agree on policy to agree on being a human.  
    Do they not believe in magic underwear? How was I insulting? Regardless, the criticism of Team Trump Treason should have been outspoken the day he announced his candidacy and it should have been sustained and in depth. Instead, Mitt and others stepped aside and allowed this idiot to be elected. He owns it. If he votes for removal from office after a trial, I may give Mitt a modicum of respect. Realizing three years after the fact doesn’t grant you hero worship status.
     
    Be that as it may, the country needs advocates for righteousness and the rule of law.  I don't care what any politician thinks about the marginal tax rate at this point.  Anyone who joins the team with teh moral compass, I welcome them regardless of when they join.  
    Sounds more like Mitt is positioning himself for a 2020 challenge. He’ll go along with Mitchy baby more often than not. Now, if he changed parties because of the repubs being the Team Trump Treason party? That would be cajones.

     #walkawaymitt
    He is a republican. Do you expect him not to vote for typical republican things?

    There's a difference between voting for republican policy stuff and for calling out the president when it is necessary and when it will really count once the Mueller report is out....
    And Mitts been consistent. He called out Trump during the primary. 


    And he also trekked on over to the White House and kissed Team Trump Treason’s ass, perhaps for SoS consideration? Unless there are actual actions taken by repubs to oppose Team Trump Treason, it’s all empty rhetoric. Publically calling for investigations, publically supporting Team Mueller and legislation that does so and publically opposing legislation like a fucking border wall that Mexico will pay for, will get my attention. A one and done op-ed is meaningless unless his actions in the senate oppose Team Trump Treason’s incompetence. Like unqualified judicial nominees, the wall, withdrawal from treaties, etc. The repubs are still afraid of him and his idiot base.
    You don’t know what was discussed or said. If just meeting with trump is a problem for you, then no one is good enough.

    The morality of Mitt meeting with the immoral Team Trump Treason is what I’m wrestling with. The squeaky clean Mormon Mitt meeting with and legitimizing a truce married, porn star banging, cheating on Melania immoral Team Trump Treason. I could give two shits what was discussed. Do you think it was a come to Jesus meeting? An intervention?
     
    What was likely discussed was Mitt's vision for the foreign policy of the United States.  How can you not give a shit?  It doesn't make sense.  And remember, back just two years ago, there were many who were hopeful that Trump could be guided by rational people.  I'm not saying there was a real shot that was the case, but it was the only shot back in 2016, post election.  There was no other option.  
    It doesn’t matter. You are either 100% aligned with Halifax or the devil to him it seems. It’s funny that people like him wonder where we got trump from.
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,829
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    There’s no vision there. Just a call to be who one should be pre Team Trump Treason. Given that, repub policies are still ruinous to the average person. Bain Capital and leveraged buyouts is what MAGA is all about. Fuck Mitt and his magic underwear.
    Easy on the LDS insults.  Let's not pretend that we will have mainline conservatives suddenly signing onto medicare for all, or that they will be anti-tax cuts.  This isn't the real world.  But it's important to have real conservatives appropriately criticizing Trump's behavior.  Romney did that day one and I commend him for that.  I welcome any other conservative, Kasich, Sasse, anyone, to do the same.  We don't have to agree on policy to agree on being a human.  
    Do they not believe in magic underwear? How was I insulting? Regardless, the criticism of Team Trump Treason should have been outspoken the day he announced his candidacy and it should have been sustained and in depth. Instead, Mitt and others stepped aside and allowed this idiot to be elected. He owns it. If he votes for removal from office after a trial, I may give Mitt a modicum of respect. Realizing three years after the fact doesn’t grant you hero worship status.
     
    Be that as it may, the country needs advocates for righteousness and the rule of law.  I don't care what any politician thinks about the marginal tax rate at this point.  Anyone who joins the team with teh moral compass, I welcome them regardless of when they join.  
    Sounds more like Mitt is positioning himself for a 2020 challenge. He’ll go along with Mitchy baby more often than not. Now, if he changed parties because of the repubs being the Team Trump Treason party? That would be cajones.

     #walkawaymitt
    He is a republican. Do you expect him not to vote for typical republican things?

    There's a difference between voting for republican policy stuff and for calling out the president when it is necessary and when it will really count once the Mueller report is out....
    And Mitts been consistent. He called out Trump during the primary. 


    And he also trekked on over to the White House and kissed Team Trump Treason’s ass, perhaps for SoS consideration? Unless there are actual actions taken by repubs to oppose Team Trump Treason, it’s all empty rhetoric. Publically calling for investigations, publically supporting Team Mueller and legislation that does so and publically opposing legislation like a fucking border wall that Mexico will pay for, will get my attention. A one and done op-ed is meaningless unless his actions in the senate oppose Team Trump Treason’s incompetence. Like unqualified judicial nominees, the wall, withdrawal from treaties, etc. The repubs are still afraid of him and his idiot base.
    You don’t know what was discussed or said. If just meeting with trump is a problem for you, then no one is good enough.

    The morality of Mitt meeting with the immoral Team Trump Treason is what I’m wrestling with. The squeaky clean Mormon Mitt meeting with and legitimizing a truce married, porn star banging, cheating on Melania immoral Team Trump Treason. I could give two shits what was discussed. Do you think it was a come to Jesus meeting? An intervention?
     
    What was likely discussed was Mitt's vision for the foreign policy of the United States.  How can you not give a shit?  It doesn't make sense.  And remember, back just two years ago, there were many who were hopeful that Trump could be guided by rational people.  I'm not saying there was a real shot that was the case, but it was the only shot back in 2016, post election.  There was no other option.  
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    my2hands said:
    He kissed the ring trying to get the SOS spot... fuck em,  and his magic undies lol 

    Didn't he also eat the meatloaf?
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