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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,312
    lol Republican opposing the baffoon you can count them on one hand heck maybe one hand missing three fingers , they all fell in line once they realized he was to be the nominee and then elected they all caved like little school girls just look at spineless Cruz ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    lol Republican opposing the baffoon you can count them on one hand heck maybe one hand missing three fingers , they all fell in line once they realized he was to be the nominee and then elected they all caved like little school girls just look at spineless Cruz ...

    You can't blame Cruz though: once he was exposed as a booger eater... he became a desperate man.
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,312
    lol Republican opposing the baffoon you can count them on one hand heck maybe one hand missing three fingers , they all fell in line once they realized he was to be the nominee and then elected they all caved like little school girls just look at spineless Cruz ...

    You can't blame Cruz though: once he was exposed as a booger eater... he became a desperate man.
    lol yeah but c'mon man if someone at your place of work called your wife butt ugly i'd like to think you would do something about it ...
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    If Mittens had a spine he would have refused Trump's endorsement.

    He will be full of useless platitudes and nothing more, just like Flake.

    If he's more than that I will be pleasantly surprised.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,835
    i just watched a bunch of video of trump today talking about north korea and russia and the soviet union. if i didn't know better, i'd say he had a stroke prior to this presser. 
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    mrussel1 said:
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    There’s no vision there. Just a call to be who one should be pre Team Trump Treason. Given that, repub policies are still ruinous to the average person. Bain Capital and leveraged buyouts is what MAGA is all about. Fuck Mitt and his magic underwear.
    Easy on the LDS insults.  Let's not pretend that we will have mainline conservatives suddenly signing onto medicare for all, or that they will be anti-tax cuts.  This isn't the real world.  But it's important to have real conservatives appropriately criticizing Trump's behavior.  Romney did that day one and I commend him for that.  I welcome any other conservative, Kasich, Sasse, anyone, to do the same.  We don't have to agree on policy to agree on being a human.  
    Do they not believe in magic underwear? How was I insulting? Regardless, the criticism of Team Trump Treason should have been outspoken the day he announced his candidacy and it should have been sustained and in depth. Instead, Mitt and others stepped aside and allowed this idiot to be elected. He owns it. If he votes for removal from office after a trial, I may give Mitt a modicum of respect. Realizing three years after the fact doesn’t grant you hero worship status.
     
    Be that as it may, the country needs advocates for righteousness and the rule of law.  I don't care what any politician thinks about the marginal tax rate at this point.  Anyone who joins the team with teh moral compass, I welcome them regardless of when they join.  
    Sounds more like Mitt is positioning himself for a 2020 challenge. He’ll go along with Mitchy baby more often than not. Now, if he changed parties because of the repubs being the Team Trump Treason party? That would be cajones.

     #walkawaymitt
    He is a republican. Do you expect him not to vote for typical republican things?

    There's a difference between voting for republican policy stuff and for calling out the president when it is necessary and when it will really count once the Mueller report is out....
    And Mitts been consistent. He called out Trump during the primary. 


    And he also trekked on over to the White House and kissed Team Trump Treason’s ass, perhaps for SoS consideration? Unless there are actual actions taken by repubs to oppose Team Trump Treason, it’s all empty rhetoric. Publically calling for investigations, publically supporting Team Mueller and legislation that does so and publically opposing legislation like a fucking border wall that Mexico will pay for, will get my attention. A one and done op-ed is meaningless unless his actions in the senate oppose Team Trump Treason’s incompetence. Like unqualified judicial nominees, the wall, withdrawal from treaties, etc. The repubs are still afraid of him and his idiot base.
    You don’t know what was discussed or said. If just meeting with trump is a problem for you, then no one is good enough.

    The morality of Mitt meeting with the immoral Team Trump Treason is what I’m wrestling with. The squeaky clean Mormon Mitt meeting with and legitimizing a truce married, porn star banging, cheating on Melania immoral Team Trump Treason. I could give two shits what was discussed. Do you think it was a come to Jesus meeting? An intervention?
     
    I just think that Mitts public life speaks for itself. He has done some very good things and he certainly has far more moral credibility than many.  Who knows what was said...but he didn’t get the job.  And we are likely worse as a country because of it.

    i understand not liking his politics, but I don’t understand not be ok with him as a person. If it’s religion than you should hate Obama too since he is a Christian. 
    I don’t think it was Obama’s “Christianity” that made it so the repubs refused to even meet with him or even be seen socializing with him. 
                                                                           
     
    Why are you changing topics? 
    Why did you bring Obama into it?
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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
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    There’s no vision there. Just a call to be who one should be pre Team Trump Treason. Given that, repub policies are still ruinous to the average person. Bain Capital and leveraged buyouts is what MAGA is all about. Fuck Mitt and his magic underwear.
    Easy on the LDS insults.  Let's not pretend that we will have mainline conservatives suddenly signing onto medicare for all, or that they will be anti-tax cuts.  This isn't the real world.  But it's important to have real conservatives appropriately criticizing Trump's behavior.  Romney did that day one and I commend him for that.  I welcome any other conservative, Kasich, Sasse, anyone, to do the same.  We don't have to agree on policy to agree on being a human.  
    Do they not believe in magic underwear? How was I insulting? Regardless, the criticism of Team Trump Treason should have been outspoken the day he announced his candidacy and it should have been sustained and in depth. Instead, Mitt and others stepped aside and allowed this idiot to be elected. He owns it. If he votes for removal from office after a trial, I may give Mitt a modicum of respect. Realizing three years after the fact doesn’t grant you hero worship status.
     
    Be that as it may, the country needs advocates for righteousness and the rule of law.  I don't care what any politician thinks about the marginal tax rate at this point.  Anyone who joins the team with teh moral compass, I welcome them regardless of when they join.  
    Sounds more like Mitt is positioning himself for a 2020 challenge. He’ll go along with Mitchy baby more often than not. Now, if he changed parties because of the repubs being the Team Trump Treason party? That would be cajones.

     #walkawaymitt
    He is a republican. Do you expect him not to vote for typical republican things?

    There's a difference between voting for republican policy stuff and for calling out the president when it is necessary and when it will really count once the Mueller report is out....
    And Mitts been consistent. He called out Trump during the primary. 


    And he also trekked on over to the White House and kissed Team Trump Treason’s ass, perhaps for SoS consideration? Unless there are actual actions taken by repubs to oppose Team Trump Treason, it’s all empty rhetoric. Publically calling for investigations, publically supporting Team Mueller and legislation that does so and publically opposing legislation like a fucking border wall that Mexico will pay for, will get my attention. A one and done op-ed is meaningless unless his actions in the senate oppose Team Trump Treason’s incompetence. Like unqualified judicial nominees, the wall, withdrawal from treaties, etc. The repubs are still afraid of him and his idiot base.
    You don’t know what was discussed or said. If just meeting with trump is a problem for you, then no one is good enough.

    The morality of Mitt meeting with the immoral Team Trump Treason is what I’m wrestling with. The squeaky clean Mormon Mitt meeting with and legitimizing a truce married, porn star banging, cheating on Melania immoral Team Trump Treason. I could give two shits what was discussed. Do you think it was a come to Jesus meeting? An intervention?
     
    What was likely discussed was Mitt's vision for the foreign policy of the United States.  How can you not give a shit?  It doesn't make sense.  And remember, back just two years ago, there were many who were hopeful that Trump could be guided by rational people.  I'm not saying there was a real shot that was the case, but it was the only shot back in 2016, post election.  There was no other option.  
    It doesn’t matter. You are either 100% aligned with Halifax or the devil to him it seems. It’s funny that people like him wonder where we got trump from.
    I have no questions as to how we ended up with Team Trump Treason. A repub party willing to sell its soul and a major push by Putin on the ritz. What I wonder about is how folks can continue to rationalize and excuse it.
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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
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    There’s no vision there. Just a call to be who one should be pre Team Trump Treason. Given that, repub policies are still ruinous to the average person. Bain Capital and leveraged buyouts is what MAGA is all about. Fuck Mitt and his magic underwear.
    Easy on the LDS insults.  Let's not pretend that we will have mainline conservatives suddenly signing onto medicare for all, or that they will be anti-tax cuts.  This isn't the real world.  But it's important to have real conservatives appropriately criticizing Trump's behavior.  Romney did that day one and I commend him for that.  I welcome any other conservative, Kasich, Sasse, anyone, to do the same.  We don't have to agree on policy to agree on being a human.  
    Do they not believe in magic underwear? How was I insulting? Regardless, the criticism of Team Trump Treason should have been outspoken the day he announced his candidacy and it should have been sustained and in depth. Instead, Mitt and others stepped aside and allowed this idiot to be elected. He owns it. If he votes for removal from office after a trial, I may give Mitt a modicum of respect. Realizing three years after the fact doesn’t grant you hero worship status.
     
    Be that as it may, the country needs advocates for righteousness and the rule of law.  I don't care what any politician thinks about the marginal tax rate at this point.  Anyone who joins the team with teh moral compass, I welcome them regardless of when they join.  
    Sounds more like Mitt is positioning himself for a 2020 challenge. He’ll go along with Mitchy baby more often than not. Now, if he changed parties because of the repubs being the Team Trump Treason party? That would be cajones.

     #walkawaymitt
    He is a republican. Do you expect him not to vote for typical republican things?

    There's a difference between voting for republican policy stuff and for calling out the president when it is necessary and when it will really count once the Mueller report is out....
    And Mitts been consistent. He called out Trump during the primary. 


    And he also trekked on over to the White House and kissed Team Trump Treason’s ass, perhaps for SoS consideration? Unless there are actual actions taken by repubs to oppose Team Trump Treason, it’s all empty rhetoric. Publically calling for investigations, publically supporting Team Mueller and legislation that does so and publically opposing legislation like a fucking border wall that Mexico will pay for, will get my attention. A one and done op-ed is meaningless unless his actions in the senate oppose Team Trump Treason’s incompetence. Like unqualified judicial nominees, the wall, withdrawal from treaties, etc. The repubs are still afraid of him and his idiot base.
    You don’t know what was discussed or said. If just meeting with trump is a problem for you, then no one is good enough.

    The morality of Mitt meeting with the immoral Team Trump Treason is what I’m wrestling with. The squeaky clean Mormon Mitt meeting with and legitimizing a truce married, porn star banging, cheating on Melania immoral Team Trump Treason. I could give two shits what was discussed. Do you think it was a come to Jesus meeting? An intervention?
     
    What was likely discussed was Mitt's vision for the foreign policy of the United States.  How can you not give a shit?  It doesn't make sense.  And remember, back just two years ago, there were many who were hopeful that Trump could be guided by rational people.  I'm not saying there was a real shot that was the case, but it was the only shot back in 2016, post election.  There was no other option.  
    Every repub and those who voted for Team Trump Treason own that shit. Anyone who was in the know or paid attention to Team Trump Treason’s 30-40 year career previous to running for president knew he doesn’t listen to rationality or that anyone with cache was going to have influence. Mitt to the rescue for meeting with him and now writing an op-Ed, much too little way too fucking late. 
     
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    Look who’s suddenly a savant.

    https://apple.news/AxVJUXeBWSJi3BLiQHWgc8w
     
    Is her 15 minutes up yet or did she get a do over?
     
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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
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    mrussel1 said:
    There’s no vision there. Just a call to be who one should be pre Team Trump Treason. Given that, repub policies are still ruinous to the average person. Bain Capital and leveraged buyouts is what MAGA is all about. Fuck Mitt and his magic underwear.
    Easy on the LDS insults.  Let's not pretend that we will have mainline conservatives suddenly signing onto medicare for all, or that they will be anti-tax cuts.  This isn't the real world.  But it's important to have real conservatives appropriately criticizing Trump's behavior.  Romney did that day one and I commend him for that.  I welcome any other conservative, Kasich, Sasse, anyone, to do the same.  We don't have to agree on policy to agree on being a human.  
    Do they not believe in magic underwear? How was I insulting? Regardless, the criticism of Team Trump Treason should have been outspoken the day he announced his candidacy and it should have been sustained and in depth. Instead, Mitt and others stepped aside and allowed this idiot to be elected. He owns it. If he votes for removal from office after a trial, I may give Mitt a modicum of respect. Realizing three years after the fact doesn’t grant you hero worship status.
     
    Be that as it may, the country needs advocates for righteousness and the rule of law.  I don't care what any politician thinks about the marginal tax rate at this point.  Anyone who joins the team with teh moral compass, I welcome them regardless of when they join.  
    Sounds more like Mitt is positioning himself for a 2020 challenge. He’ll go along with Mitchy baby more often than not. Now, if he changed parties because of the repubs being the Team Trump Treason party? That would be cajones.

     #walkawaymitt
    He is a republican. Do you expect him not to vote for typical republican things?

    There's a difference between voting for republican policy stuff and for calling out the president when it is necessary and when it will really count once the Mueller report is out....
    And Mitts been consistent. He called out Trump during the primary. 


    And he also trekked on over to the White House and kissed Team Trump Treason’s ass, perhaps for SoS consideration? Unless there are actual actions taken by repubs to oppose Team Trump Treason, it’s all empty rhetoric. Publically calling for investigations, publically supporting Team Mueller and legislation that does so and publically opposing legislation like a fucking border wall that Mexico will pay for, will get my attention. A one and done op-ed is meaningless unless his actions in the senate oppose Team Trump Treason’s incompetence. Like unqualified judicial nominees, the wall, withdrawal from treaties, etc. The repubs are still afraid of him and his idiot base.
    You don’t know what was discussed or said. If just meeting with trump is a problem for you, then no one is good enough.

    The morality of Mitt meeting with the immoral Team Trump Treason is what I’m wrestling with. The squeaky clean Mormon Mitt meeting with and legitimizing a truce married, porn star banging, cheating on Melania immoral Team Trump Treason. I could give two shits what was discussed. Do you think it was a come to Jesus meeting? An intervention?
     
    What was likely discussed was Mitt's vision for the foreign policy of the United States.  How can you not give a shit?  It doesn't make sense.  And remember, back just two years ago, there were many who were hopeful that Trump could be guided by rational people.  I'm not saying there was a real shot that was the case, but it was the only shot back in 2016, post election.  There was no other option.  
    Every repub and those who voted for Team Trump Treason own that shit. Anyone who was in the know or paid attention to Team Trump Treason’s 30-40 year career previous to running for president knew he doesn’t listen to rationality or that anyone with cache was going to have influence. Mitt to the rescue for meeting with him and now writing an op-Ed, much too little way too fucking late. 
     

    I agree with what you are getting at. 

    Repubs detaching themselves from the position they allowed themselves to get to (like rats fleeing the sinking ship) doesn't absolve them of their culpability in this mess... and it doesn't make them credible or respectable in any way.

    They're twats. Pure and simple.

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    People complained when republican congressmen didn’t speak out regarding Trump’s nonsense. Now one speaks out before he’s even sworn in and... it’s not enough. 

    Ugh. 
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    People complained when republican congressmen didn’t speak out regarding Trump’s nonsense. Now one speaks out before he’s even sworn in and... it’s not enough. 

    Ugh. 
    It's hardly admirable when core members employ exit strategies to try and emerge unscathed.

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    People complained when republican congressmen didn’t speak out regarding Trump’s nonsense. Now one speaks out before he’s even sworn in and... it’s not enough. 

    Ugh. 
    It's hardly admirable when core members employ exit strategies to try and emerge unscathed.

    Don't ever attach yourself to a loser.

    Ever. 
    Mitt and the rest allowed shit to rise to the top. They own it.
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    There’s no vision there. Just a call to be who one should be pre Team Trump Treason. Given that, repub policies are still ruinous to the average person. Bain Capital and leveraged buyouts is what MAGA is all about. Fuck Mitt and his magic underwear.
    Easy on the LDS insults.  Let's not pretend that we will have mainline conservatives suddenly signing onto medicare for all, or that they will be anti-tax cuts.  This isn't the real world.  But it's important to have real conservatives appropriately criticizing Trump's behavior.  Romney did that day one and I commend him for that.  I welcome any other conservative, Kasich, Sasse, anyone, to do the same.  We don't have to agree on policy to agree on being a human.  
    Do they not believe in magic underwear? How was I insulting? Regardless, the criticism of Team Trump Treason should have been outspoken the day he announced his candidacy and it should have been sustained and in depth. Instead, Mitt and others stepped aside and allowed this idiot to be elected. He owns it. If he votes for removal from office after a trial, I may give Mitt a modicum of respect. Realizing three years after the fact doesn’t grant you hero worship status.
     
    Be that as it may, the country needs advocates for righteousness and the rule of law.  I don't care what any politician thinks about the marginal tax rate at this point.  Anyone who joins the team with teh moral compass, I welcome them regardless of when they join.  
    Sounds more like Mitt is positioning himself for a 2020 challenge. He’ll go along with Mitchy baby more often than not. Now, if he changed parties because of the repubs being the Team Trump Treason party? That would be cajones.

     #walkawaymitt
    He is a republican. Do you expect him not to vote for typical republican things?

    There's a difference between voting for republican policy stuff and for calling out the president when it is necessary and when it will really count once the Mueller report is out....
    And Mitts been consistent. He called out Trump during the primary. 


    And he also trekked on over to the White House and kissed Team Trump Treason’s ass, perhaps for SoS consideration? Unless there are actual actions taken by repubs to oppose Team Trump Treason, it’s all empty rhetoric. Publically calling for investigations, publically supporting Team Mueller and legislation that does so and publically opposing legislation like a fucking border wall that Mexico will pay for, will get my attention. A one and done op-ed is meaningless unless his actions in the senate oppose Team Trump Treason’s incompetence. Like unqualified judicial nominees, the wall, withdrawal from treaties, etc. The repubs are still afraid of him and his idiot base.
    You don’t know what was discussed or said. If just meeting with trump is a problem for you, then no one is good enough.

    The morality of Mitt meeting with the immoral Team Trump Treason is what I’m wrestling with. The squeaky clean Mormon Mitt meeting with and legitimizing a truce married, porn star banging, cheating on Melania immoral Team Trump Treason. I could give two shits what was discussed. Do you think it was a come to Jesus meeting? An intervention?
     
    What was likely discussed was Mitt's vision for the foreign policy of the United States.  How can you not give a shit?  It doesn't make sense.  And remember, back just two years ago, there were many who were hopeful that Trump could be guided by rational people.  I'm not saying there was a real shot that was the case, but it was the only shot back in 2016, post election.  There was no other option.  
    Every repub and those who voted for Team Trump Treason own that shit. Anyone who was in the know or paid attention to Team Trump Treason’s 30-40 year career previous to running for president knew he doesn’t listen to rationality or that anyone with cache was going to have influence. Mitt to the rescue for meeting with him and now writing an op-Ed, much too little way too fucking late. 
     
    Sorry, but that's a bunch of bullshit.  David French has been criticizing Trump from day one, Kristol, Dreher, Sullivan, Parker, Brooks, etc.  My brother in law is a professor and colonel at the Naval Academy.  He has hated Trump from the moment he walked down that escalator and has been merciless in the criticism.  His dog's name is Reagan.  He's a Republican.  He doesn't own that anymore than you own Anthony Weiner's record.  
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    People complained when republican congressmen didn’t speak out regarding Trump’s nonsense. Now one speaks out before he’s even sworn in and... it’s not enough. 

    Ugh. 
    Of course it’s “not enough” that Romney is only speaking out now. This is no newcomer to the party, taking his first opportunity on the national stage to denounce Trump; this is a core Repub who could have and should have done a lot more before he got to this point. 
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    People complained when republican congressmen didn’t speak out regarding Trump’s nonsense. Now one speaks out before he’s even sworn in and... it’s not enough. 

    Ugh. 
    And no, it’s not enough. It needs to be a chorus. For the sake of the nation.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,678
    People complained when republican congressmen didn’t speak out regarding Trump’s nonsense. Now one speaks out before he’s even sworn in and... it’s not enough. 

    Ugh. 
    And no, it’s not enough. It needs to be a chorus. For the sake of the nation.
    You want a chorus, but you criticize the solo.  How about taking one at a time?  Winning in politics is not about slaying your opponent, it's about getting more people to vote for your position.  Telling people who made a mistake or didn't speak loudly enough for your liking to "own this" is not the way to convince those people of your righteous position and to join you.  
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    People complained when republican congressmen didn’t speak out regarding Trump’s nonsense. Now one speaks out before he’s even sworn in and... it’s not enough. 

    Ugh. 
    And no, it’s not enough. It needs to be a chorus. For the sake of the nation.
    You want a chorus, but you criticize the solo.  How about taking one at a time?  Winning in politics is not about slaying your opponent, it's about getting more people to vote for your position.  Telling people who made a mistake or didn't speak loudly enough for your liking to "own this" is not the way to convince those people of your righteous position and to join you.  
    I’m not willing to forgive them for their trespasses. They need to repent and be absolved of their sins. They should have known better. Is that my fault?
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    There’s no vision there. Just a call to be who one should be pre Team Trump Treason. Given that, repub policies are still ruinous to the average person. Bain Capital and leveraged buyouts is what MAGA is all about. Fuck Mitt and his magic underwear.
    Easy on the LDS insults.  Let's not pretend that we will have mainline conservatives suddenly signing onto medicare for all, or that they will be anti-tax cuts.  This isn't the real world.  But it's important to have real conservatives appropriately criticizing Trump's behavior.  Romney did that day one and I commend him for that.  I welcome any other conservative, Kasich, Sasse, anyone, to do the same.  We don't have to agree on policy to agree on being a human.  
    Do they not believe in magic underwear? How was I insulting? Regardless, the criticism of Team Trump Treason should have been outspoken the day he announced his candidacy and it should have been sustained and in depth. Instead, Mitt and others stepped aside and allowed this idiot to be elected. He owns it. If he votes for removal from office after a trial, I may give Mitt a modicum of respect. Realizing three years after the fact doesn’t grant you hero worship status.
     
    Be that as it may, the country needs advocates for righteousness and the rule of law.  I don't care what any politician thinks about the marginal tax rate at this point.  Anyone who joins the team with teh moral compass, I welcome them regardless of when they join.  
    Sounds more like Mitt is positioning himself for a 2020 challenge. He’ll go along with Mitchy baby more often than not. Now, if he changed parties because of the repubs being the Team Trump Treason party? That would be cajones.

     #walkawaymitt
    He is a republican. Do you expect him not to vote for typical republican things?

    There's a difference between voting for republican policy stuff and for calling out the president when it is necessary and when it will really count once the Mueller report is out....
    And Mitts been consistent. He called out Trump during the primary. 


    And he also trekked on over to the White House and kissed Team Trump Treason’s ass, perhaps for SoS consideration? Unless there are actual actions taken by repubs to oppose Team Trump Treason, it’s all empty rhetoric. Publically calling for investigations, publically supporting Team Mueller and legislation that does so and publically opposing legislation like a fucking border wall that Mexico will pay for, will get my attention. A one and done op-ed is meaningless unless his actions in the senate oppose Team Trump Treason’s incompetence. Like unqualified judicial nominees, the wall, withdrawal from treaties, etc. The repubs are still afraid of him and his idiot base.
    You don’t know what was discussed or said. If just meeting with trump is a problem for you, then no one is good enough.

    The morality of Mitt meeting with the immoral Team Trump Treason is what I’m wrestling with. The squeaky clean Mormon Mitt meeting with and legitimizing a truce married, porn star banging, cheating on Melania immoral Team Trump Treason. I could give two shits what was discussed. Do you think it was a come to Jesus meeting? An intervention?
     
    What was likely discussed was Mitt's vision for the foreign policy of the United States.  How can you not give a shit?  It doesn't make sense.  And remember, back just two years ago, there were many who were hopeful that Trump could be guided by rational people.  I'm not saying there was a real shot that was the case, but it was the only shot back in 2016, post election.  There was no other option.  
    Every repub and those who voted for Team Trump Treason own that shit. Anyone who was in the know or paid attention to Team Trump Treason’s 30-40 year career previous to running for president knew he doesn’t listen to rationality or that anyone with cache was going to have influence. Mitt to the rescue for meeting with him and now writing an op-Ed, much too little way too fucking late. 
     
    Sorry, but that's a bunch of bullshit.  David French has been criticizing Trump from day one, Kristol, Dreher, Sullivan, Parker, Brooks, etc.  My brother in law is a professor and colonel at the Naval Academy.  He has hated Trump from the moment he walked down that escalator and has been merciless in the criticism.  His dog's name is Reagan.  He's a Republican.  He doesn't own that anymore than you own Anthony Weiner's record.  
    Did he vote Hillary? 
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    mrussel1 said:
    People complained when republican congressmen didn’t speak out regarding Trump’s nonsense. Now one speaks out before he’s even sworn in and... it’s not enough. 

    Ugh. 
    And no, it’s not enough. It needs to be a chorus. For the sake of the nation.
    You want a chorus, but you criticize the solo.  How about taking one at a time?  Winning in politics is not about slaying your opponent, it's about getting more people to vote for your position.  Telling people who made a mistake or didn't speak loudly enough for your liking to "own this" is not the way to convince those people of your righteous position and to join you.  
    I’m not willing to forgive them for their trespasses. They need to repent and be absolved of their sins. They should have known better. Is that my fault?
    It's unreasonable and not connected with man's nature at all.  
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    mrussel1 said:
    People complained when republican congressmen didn’t speak out regarding Trump’s nonsense. Now one speaks out before he’s even sworn in and... it’s not enough. 

    Ugh. 
    And no, it’s not enough. It needs to be a chorus. For the sake of the nation.
    You want a chorus, but you criticize the solo.  How about taking one at a time?  Winning in politics is not about slaying your opponent, it's about getting more people to vote for your position.  Telling people who made a mistake or didn't speak loudly enough for your liking to "own this" is not the way to convince those people of your righteous position and to join you.  
    I’m not willing to forgive them for their trespasses. They need to repent and be absolved of their sins. They should have known better. Is that my fault?
    It's unreasonable and not connected with man's nature at all.  
    What’s unreasonable?
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    mrussel1 said:
    People complained when republican congressmen didn’t speak out regarding Trump’s nonsense. Now one speaks out before he’s even sworn in and... it’s not enough. 

    Ugh. 
    And no, it’s not enough. It needs to be a chorus. For the sake of the nation.
    You want a chorus, but you criticize the solo.  How about taking one at a time?  Winning in politics is not about slaying your opponent, it's about getting more people to vote for your position.  Telling people who made a mistake or didn't speak loudly enough for your liking to "own this" is not the way to convince those people of your righteous position and to join you.  

    You know what? This is actually fair to some degree and has made me stop to think.

    Better late than never? Maybe. Just maybe.

    (F**k man... how could any person with 2 brain cells to rub together not see that this was a train wreck waiting to happen?)

    But maybe.
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    mrussel1 said:
    People complained when republican congressmen didn’t speak out regarding Trump’s nonsense. Now one speaks out before he’s even sworn in and... it’s not enough. 

    Ugh. 
    And no, it’s not enough. It needs to be a chorus. For the sake of the nation.
    You want a chorus, but you criticize the solo.  How about taking one at a time?  Winning in politics is not about slaying your opponent, it's about getting more people to vote for your position.  Telling people who made a mistake or didn't speak loudly enough for your liking to "own this" is not the way to convince those people of your righteous position and to join you.  

    You know what? This is actually fair to some degree and has made me stop to think.

    Better late than never? Maybe. Just maybe.

    (F**k man... how could any person with 2 brain cells to rub together not see that this was a train wreck waiting to happen?)

    But maybe.
    of course it's fair, and not just to some degree in my opinion. there are way too many people trying to shame people into voting democrat next time. all that will do is make them dig their heels in deeper. this left-wing righteousness is part of the reason we have trump in the first place. 
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    mrussel1 said:
    People complained when republican congressmen didn’t speak out regarding Trump’s nonsense. Now one speaks out before he’s even sworn in and... it’s not enough. 

    Ugh. 
    And no, it’s not enough. It needs to be a chorus. For the sake of the nation.
    You want a chorus, but you criticize the solo.  How about taking one at a time?  Winning in politics is not about slaying your opponent, it's about getting more people to vote for your position.  Telling people who made a mistake or didn't speak loudly enough for your liking to "own this" is not the way to convince those people of your righteous position and to join you.  

    You know what? This is actually fair to some degree and has made me stop to think.

    Better late than never? Maybe. Just maybe.

    (F**k man... how could any person with 2 brain cells to rub together not see that this was a train wreck waiting to happen?)

    But maybe.
    of course it's fair, and not just to some degree in my opinion. there are way too many people trying to shame people into voting democrat next time. all that will do is make them dig their heels in deeper. this left-wing righteousness is part of the reason we have trump in the first place. 
    Bullshit. “Left wing righteousness?” Oh please.
     
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    People complained when republican congressmen didn’t speak out regarding Trump’s nonsense. Now one speaks out before he’s even sworn in and... it’s not enough. 

    Ugh. 
    And no, it’s not enough. It needs to be a chorus. For the sake of the nation.
    You want a chorus, but you criticize the solo.  How about taking one at a time?  Winning in politics is not about slaying your opponent, it's about getting more people to vote for your position.  Telling people who made a mistake or didn't speak loudly enough for your liking to "own this" is not the way to convince those people of your righteous position and to join you.  

    You know what? This is actually fair to some degree and has made me stop to think.

    Better late than never? Maybe. Just maybe.

    (F**k man... how could any person with 2 brain cells to rub together not see that this was a train wreck waiting to happen?)

    But maybe.
    of course it's fair, and not just to some degree in my opinion. there are way too many people trying to shame people into voting democrat next time. all that will do is make them dig their heels in deeper. this left-wing righteousness is part of the reason we have trump in the first place. 
    Even staring into the face or stupid, repubs will vote with stupid because of 'righteousness'. 



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    mrussel1 said:
    People complained when republican congressmen didn’t speak out regarding Trump’s nonsense. Now one speaks out before he’s even sworn in and... it’s not enough. 

    Ugh. 
    And no, it’s not enough. It needs to be a chorus. For the sake of the nation.
    You want a chorus, but you criticize the solo.  How about taking one at a time?  Winning in politics is not about slaying your opponent, it's about getting more people to vote for your position.  Telling people who made a mistake or didn't speak loudly enough for your liking to "own this" is not the way to convince those people of your righteous position and to join you.  

    You know what? This is actually fair to some degree and has made me stop to think.

    Better late than never? Maybe. Just maybe.

    (F**k man... how could any person with 2 brain cells to rub together not see that this was a train wreck waiting to happen?)

    But maybe.
    of course it's fair, and not just to some degree in my opinion. there are way too many people trying to shame people into voting democrat next time. all that will do is make them dig their heels in deeper. this left-wing righteousness is part of the reason we have trump in the first place. 
    The idea of shaming people is an interesting one because to some degree- whether great or small- it's true. The anti-trump force would attract more bees to honey than with vinegar.

    I wouldn’t agree with you on the ‘righteousness’ thing.

    To my way of thinking... the ‘right’ has a monopoly on righteousness. The left has a degree of arrogance which the right struggles with, but it’s definitely the fairer side.
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    gimme a bucket!  :lol:    

    I just finished reading Henry Rollins' latest book,  Before the Chop IV.  The first 2/3 or so of the book are Rollins' final submissions to his weekly articles in the L.A. Weekly.  In most of those essays, Henry writes down his observations on much of the first years of Trump's presidency.  Like all Rollins work, it's insightful and often humorous and he hold no punches, but it is a bit nauseating to relive that first year. 

    And then of course there is year two...

    ...somebody gimme a bucket!
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    More righteousness spewing forth. If only libs had the cajones to live in an alternate reality and sell it with brazen abandon. Good fucking luck.

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