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Not as awful as that perjurer Jeff Sessions, but still pretty awful..
https://www.apnews.com/abab84187de84e6ca16f715699b89820/US-prosecutors-told-to-push-for-more,-harsher-punishments
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Trump threatens Comey in new tweet
"James Comey better hope that there are no 'tapes' of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press,"
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/12/politics/donald-trump-james-comey-threat/index.html0 -
actually, you are pretty much the only one left that is still actively posting on the subject. some left, some got banned. but you're it.BS44325 said:
Curious? If you have been reading through you wouldn't be curious. It's pretty much all here for you.2-feign-reluctance said:Curious what all the forum Trump supporters think now? You guys bitched and moaned any time Obama went golfing and/or left your gun ranges for the grocery store, cleared out all the shelves and hunkered down in your underground bunkers thinking the world was coming to an end. So....whatcha' all think of this level of treason and corruption? Every president has probably had something to hide, but this? This is fucked.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Is Trump claiming he recorded conversations with Comey at the White House? If so, I'm pretty sure there's precedent for a FOIA request.dignin said:Trump threatens Comey in new tweet
"James Comey better hope that there are no 'tapes' of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press,"
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/12/politics/donald-trump-james-comey-threat/index.html0 -
Another 18 minute gap, perhaps? To go along with the 18 day gap.CM189191 said:
Is Trump claiming he recorded conversations with Comey at the White House? If so, I'm pretty sure there's precedent for a FOIA request.dignin said:Trump threatens Comey in new tweet
"James Comey better hope that there are no 'tapes' of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press,"
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What a fucking idiot. Seriously.
It's only a matter of time before he violates a law that he doesn't even know about. Oh wait, he already did that when he offered Carson a Cabinet position for his endorsement, and Carson was dumb enough to admit it on camera.
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Wowdignin said:Trump threatens Comey in new tweet
"James Comey better hope that there are no 'tapes' of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press,"
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/12/politics/donald-trump-james-comey-threat/index.html"My brain's a good brain!"0 -
I could accept this analysis as being intellectually honestdignin said:
Plain as day why Trump fired Comey and we both know it had nothing to do with his handling of Hillary's investigation. If were going to talk about honesty.BS44325 said:
No. You have lost your cool. And as far as the "intellectually honest conservatives" are concerned...fuck 'em....what makes them so "intellectual"? Most were #nevertrump from the get go and wrongly predicted that Trump would crash and burn in November while taking the entire GOPnwith him. Trump did it without those people and need not rely on their "intellectual honesty" for his support. Comey needed to go. Period. The end. An intellectually honest person recognizes that and makes the right leadership position irrespective of the outrage to follow. Trump did what was necessary while the real hacks cower.mrussel1 said:
No, I'm just embarrassed for you. You're trying to defend the indefensible. David French, Larison, Dreher, none of the intellectually honest conservatives are defending his actions. The only ones that do are the lemmings and the hacks. Hannity, Rush, Alex Jones, Savage...the fucking hacks. And now you, even using the stupid campaign slogans that were totally full of shit.BS44325 said:
You're losing your cool.mrussel1 said:
Whatever, another bullshit answer and you know it. You're now an official lemming. Make sure you use the word "fake" in everything you say. It's especially comical coming from you, an avowed neocon. They are the GOP establishment.BS44325 said:
He is part of the swamp. The one that needs to be drained.mrussel1 said:
How is Comey establishment? Is it because he went to college and got a job? He's a law enforcement officer for Christ sake's.BS44325 said:
Comey is establishment. Bipartisan disgust for him. Like I said earlier...two days ago Comey being useless was the one thing the whole world agreed on.Go Beavers said:
How did part of the establishment take a hit, and then what will his voters be digging?BS44325 said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
You're reeling a bit.BS44325 said:
Trump has only ever given train wreck interviews. You seem to be stuck on the idea that it matters. It has never mattered and it will likely continue to never matter. It is not 3D chess when you recognize the obvious.dignin said:So can we finally put this myth to bed that Trump is brilliant and playing some kind of 3D chess?
Even the dimmest of bulbs among us must have come to the realization that the man is an idiot.
His people must be pooping their pants after that train wreck of an interview.
You'd do well to listen to your last statement, It is not 3D chess when you recognize the obvious. Idiots voted for this man hoping for the moon. It was stupid of them.
No they did not. Hope was the slogan for the last presidency. This was a fuck the establishment vote. Part of the establishment took a massive hit yesterday. His voters will dig that.
And Trump is doing a bang up job with all the Goldman people in his cabinet.
http://thefederalist.com/2017/05/11/want-checks-balances-stop-ignoring-constitution-youre-power/#.WRRvZQS4UFg.facebook
In a nutshell...Harsanyi believes the firing was a mistake but that it wasn't about Russia...it was about Trump being Trump.0 -
Uhhh...no. I am still a neocon. This has zero to do with nationalism. We are talking about one action...the firing of Comey. It is irrelevant to the discussion of political philosophy. I believe Trump has the right to fire Comey. I believe he should have fired him a long time ago. I recognize that politically it looks terrible and might come with a short term price. None of that speaks to being a nationalist or a neocon and if anything since taking office Trump has moved towards the neocon position in action and in deed...it is why I can cut him some slack from time to time because aside from the daily messiness he is moving in a direction that I like.mrussel1 said:
Okay so the neocon is now a nationalist (Canadian who supports a US Nationalist..irony....) because the nationalist won the election. So he says "fuck em". I think we can now put you into the intellectually dishonest category at this point.BS44325 said:
No. You have lost your cool. And as far as the "intellectually honest conservatives" are concerned...fuck 'em....what makes them so "intellectual"? Most were #nevertrump from the get go and wrongly predicted that Trump would crash and burn in November while taking the entire GOPnwith him. Trump did it without those people and need not rely on their "intellectual honesty" for his support. Comey needed to go. Period. The end. An intellectually honest person recognizes that and makes the right leadership position irrespective of the outrage to follow. Trump did what was necessary while the real hacks cower.mrussel1 said:
No, I'm just embarrassed for you. You're trying to defend the indefensible. David French, Larison, Dreher, none of the intellectually honest conservatives are defending his actions. The only ones that do are the lemmings and the hacks. Hannity, Rush, Alex Jones, Savage...the fucking hacks. And now you, even using the stupid campaign slogans that were totally full of shit.BS44325 said:
You're losing your cool.mrussel1 said:
Whatever, another bullshit answer and you know it. You're now an official lemming. Make sure you use the word "fake" in everything you say. It's especially comical coming from you, an avowed neocon. They are the GOP establishment.BS44325 said:
He is part of the swamp. The one that needs to be drained.mrussel1 said:
How is Comey establishment? Is it because he went to college and got a job? He's a law enforcement officer for Christ sake's.BS44325 said:
Comey is establishment. Bipartisan disgust for him. Like I said earlier...two days ago Comey being useless was the one thing the whole world agreed on.Go Beavers said:
How did part of the establishment take a hit, and then what will his voters be digging?BS44325 said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
You're reeling a bit.BS44325 said:
Trump has only ever given train wreck interviews. You seem to be stuck on the idea that it matters. It has never mattered and it will likely continue to never matter. It is not 3D chess when you recognize the obvious.dignin said:So can we finally put this myth to bed that Trump is brilliant and playing some kind of 3D chess?
Even the dimmest of bulbs among us must have come to the realization that the man is an idiot.
His people must be pooping their pants after that train wreck of an interview.
You'd do well to listen to your last statement, It is not 3D chess when you recognize the obvious. Idiots voted for this man hoping for the moon. It was stupid of them.
No they did not. Hope was the slogan for the last presidency. This was a fuck the establishment vote. Part of the establishment took a massive hit yesterday. His voters will dig that.
And Trump is doing a bang up job with all the Goldman people in his cabinet.0 -
So you are confirming that you are being purposely obtuse. Amazing. The word "interfere" is in the initial quote. The words "links" and "whether" go back to the word "interfere"...my kids in junior high know this. You know this. Now as far as your 9-10 investigations are concerned we actually don't know anything about them. Nothing. So your question cannot be answered unless you would like to pre-assume guilt. We don't go on background here...only under oath testimony and all testimony to date has been "no evidence". Can you accept that? No. You need tax returns. You need a "special prosecutor" because it will be investigation #11 that will get to the bottom of this!Halifax2TheMax said:
Whether you got them from CM's post or not, those were the two words you put in quotations and seemed to focus on. When you added the word"interference", I asked you a direct question using all three words of your choosing. A direct question you avoided answering. You should replace spices with your spin. So are the 9-10 investigations sour grapes because liberals lost an election or are there 9-10 ongoing investigations because there are "ties" between the Trump campaign and "whether" there was collusion with the Russian "interference" in our election?BS44325 said:
Proving again that you don't read. Go back and read the quote where I got "links" and "whether" from. I believe it was CM's post. Are you purposely being obtuse?Halifax2TheMax said:FunnyBS44325 said:
Funny, you didn't use the word interference. You said "links" and "whether." With all that we know, you still don't believe there are any links between Trump, his campaign and Russian interference with our election? Is that what you're saying?
You left out the word "interference". Links to Russia are easy to demonstrate. Links to Russina interference is much more difficult for you.Halifax2TheMax said:
He's trying to deny that there are any "links" between Trump's campaign and Russia.mrussel1 said:
Grand Jury and Senate committee subpoenas are not on background. Are you trying to argue that Flynn isn't under serious criminal investigation right now?BS44325 said:
Not at all. There is an investigation into Russian interference and wherever that might lead. No evidence has been presented that team Trump is tied to that interference in any way shape or form. All details suggesting otherwise have come completely from people on background. People keep adding the Trump connections even though not a single person under oath has confirmed collusion.mrussel1 said:
Bullshit, again. So you are saying that Comey has denied under oath that he is investigating the Trump team's ties to Russia during the campaign? Is that your position here? Like, WTF are you exactly arguing? That there's no investigation? That there's no subpoena's coming out of a grand jury or out of the Senate committee? Are you saying that?BS44325 said:
Haaa. My entire point is that the whole Russia thread is "people on background" vs "people under oath"! You can't choose when to accept one over the other. Let's admit the public evidence we have on any of these issues is thin as shit!mrussel1 said:
People on background to the Daily Caller or guy under oath.. Hmm... One report from today or the one right before the election. Hmm. One quote is contemporaneous and one is out of the dust bins of history. Hmm.BS44325 said:
The Daily Caller is reporting otherwisemrussel1 said:Sarah Huckabee Sanders says that the Rank and File had lost confidence in Comey. She wasn't under oath.
Acting Director McCabe said "that is absolutely not true". He is under oath.
Another person has sold their integrity to the devil that is DJT. How many people will he drag into the mud with him? How many people will lie for him? Word is from a Comey source is that he refused to pledge personal loyalty to Trump just last week. That was the end of Comey.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/17/exclusive-fbi-agents-say-comey-stood-in-the-way-of-clinton-email-investigation/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social“People are starting to talk. They’re calling their former friends outside the bureau asking for help. We were asked to day to provide legal representation to people inside the bureau and agreed to do so and to former agents who want to come forward and talk. Comey thought this was going to go away.”
He explained, “It’s not. People inside the bureau are furious. They are embarrassed. They feel like they are being led by a hack but more than that that they think he’s a crook. They think he’s fundamentally dishonest. They have no confidence in him. The bureau inside right now is a mess.”
He added, “The most important thing of all is that the agents have decided that they are going to talk.”
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Fuck. That's a lot of pressure.HughFreakingDillon said:
actually, you are pretty much the only one left that is still actively posting on the subject. some left, some got banned. but you're it.BS44325 said:
Curious? If you have been reading through you wouldn't be curious. It's pretty much all here for you.2-feign-reluctance said:Curious what all the forum Trump supporters think now? You guys bitched and moaned any time Obama went golfing and/or left your gun ranges for the grocery store, cleared out all the shelves and hunkered down in your underground bunkers thinking the world was coming to an end. So....whatcha' all think of this level of treason and corruption? Every president has probably had something to hide, but this? This is fucked.0 -
Optimistically clinging to hope, eh?BS44325 said:
Uhhh...no. I am still a neocon. This has zero to do with nationalism. We are talking about one action...the firing of Comey. It is irrelevant to the discussion of political philosophy. I believe Trump has the right to fire Comey. I believe he should have fired him a long time ago. I recognize that politically it looks terrible and might come with a short term price. None of that speaks to being a nationalist or a neocon and if anything since taking office Trump has moved towards the neocon position in action and in deed...it is why I can cut him some slack from time to time because aside from the daily messiness he is moving in a direction that I like.mrussel1 said:
Okay so the neocon is now a nationalist (Canadian who supports a US Nationalist..irony....) because the nationalist won the election. So he says "fuck em". I think we can now put you into the intellectually dishonest category at this point.BS44325 said:
No. You have lost your cool. And as far as the "intellectually honest conservatives" are concerned...fuck 'em....what makes them so "intellectual"? Most were #nevertrump from the get go and wrongly predicted that Trump would crash and burn in November while taking the entire GOPnwith him. Trump did it without those people and need not rely on their "intellectual honesty" for his support. Comey needed to go. Period. The end. An intellectually honest person recognizes that and makes the right leadership position irrespective of the outrage to follow. Trump did what was necessary while the real hacks cower.mrussel1 said:
No, I'm just embarrassed for you. You're trying to defend the indefensible. David French, Larison, Dreher, none of the intellectually honest conservatives are defending his actions. The only ones that do are the lemmings and the hacks. Hannity, Rush, Alex Jones, Savage...the fucking hacks. And now you, even using the stupid campaign slogans that were totally full of shit.BS44325 said:
You're losing your cool.mrussel1 said:
Whatever, another bullshit answer and you know it. You're now an official lemming. Make sure you use the word "fake" in everything you say. It's especially comical coming from you, an avowed neocon. They are the GOP establishment.BS44325 said:
He is part of the swamp. The one that needs to be drained.mrussel1 said:
How is Comey establishment? Is it because he went to college and got a job? He's a law enforcement officer for Christ sake's.BS44325 said:
Comey is establishment. Bipartisan disgust for him. Like I said earlier...two days ago Comey being useless was the one thing the whole world agreed on.Go Beavers said:
How did part of the establishment take a hit, and then what will his voters be digging?BS44325 said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
You're reeling a bit.BS44325 said:
Trump has only ever given train wreck interviews. You seem to be stuck on the idea that it matters. It has never mattered and it will likely continue to never matter. It is not 3D chess when you recognize the obvious.dignin said:So can we finally put this myth to bed that Trump is brilliant and playing some kind of 3D chess?
Even the dimmest of bulbs among us must have come to the realization that the man is an idiot.
His people must be pooping their pants after that train wreck of an interview.
You'd do well to listen to your last statement, It is not 3D chess when you recognize the obvious. Idiots voted for this man hoping for the moon. It was stupid of them.
No they did not. Hope was the slogan for the last presidency. This was a fuck the establishment vote. Part of the establishment took a massive hit yesterday. His voters will dig that.
And Trump is doing a bang up job with all the Goldman people in his cabinet.
Comey was more supported than you're suggesting. Agents are a little ticked and they have been expressing their concern:
"The firing of FBI Director James Comey has reportedly sent morale plunging at an agency already enduring one of its most tumultuous periods in history."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/fbi-agents-james-comey-change-profile-photos-a7730496.html
To me, Trump's threatening tweet is rather ominous. Who says, "If you tell on me, I'll tell on you" if they don't have anything they are concerned about being 'told on' for?
I don't think you are going to like what will undoubtedly be unfolding in the next while. I've been of the opinion that impeachment was unlikely; however, I'm beginning to think it is inevitable."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
LolBS44325 said:
Fuck. That's a lot of pressure.HughFreakingDillon said:
actually, you are pretty much the only one left that is still actively posting on the subject. some left, some got banned. but you're it.BS44325 said:
Curious? If you have been reading through you wouldn't be curious. It's pretty much all here for you.2-feign-reluctance said:Curious what all the forum Trump supporters think now? You guys bitched and moaned any time Obama went golfing and/or left your gun ranges for the grocery store, cleared out all the shelves and hunkered down in your underground bunkers thinking the world was coming to an end. So....whatcha' all think of this level of treason and corruption? Every president has probably had something to hide, but this? This is fucked.
You thought everybody was streaking with you, eh?"My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Was this written before or after Trump essentially told Lester Holt that it was because of the investigation?BS44325 said:
I could accept this analysis as being intellectually honestdignin said:
Plain as day why Trump fired Comey and we both know it had nothing to do with his handling of Hillary's investigation. If were going to talk about honesty.BS44325 said:
No. You have lost your cool. And as far as the "intellectually honest conservatives" are concerned...fuck 'em....what makes them so "intellectual"? Most were #nevertrump from the get go and wrongly predicted that Trump would crash and burn in November while taking the entire GOPnwith him. Trump did it without those people and need not rely on their "intellectual honesty" for his support. Comey needed to go. Period. The end. An intellectually honest person recognizes that and makes the right leadership position irrespective of the outrage to follow. Trump did what was necessary while the real hacks cower.mrussel1 said:
No, I'm just embarrassed for you. You're trying to defend the indefensible. David French, Larison, Dreher, none of the intellectually honest conservatives are defending his actions. The only ones that do are the lemmings and the hacks. Hannity, Rush, Alex Jones, Savage...the fucking hacks. And now you, even using the stupid campaign slogans that were totally full of shit.BS44325 said:
You're losing your cool.mrussel1 said:
Whatever, another bullshit answer and you know it. You're now an official lemming. Make sure you use the word "fake" in everything you say. It's especially comical coming from you, an avowed neocon. They are the GOP establishment.BS44325 said:
He is part of the swamp. The one that needs to be drained.mrussel1 said:
How is Comey establishment? Is it because he went to college and got a job? He's a law enforcement officer for Christ sake's.BS44325 said:
Comey is establishment. Bipartisan disgust for him. Like I said earlier...two days ago Comey being useless was the one thing the whole world agreed on.Go Beavers said:
How did part of the establishment take a hit, and then what will his voters be digging?BS44325 said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
You're reeling a bit.BS44325 said:
Trump has only ever given train wreck interviews. You seem to be stuck on the idea that it matters. It has never mattered and it will likely continue to never matter. It is not 3D chess when you recognize the obvious.dignin said:So can we finally put this myth to bed that Trump is brilliant and playing some kind of 3D chess?
Even the dimmest of bulbs among us must have come to the realization that the man is an idiot.
His people must be pooping their pants after that train wreck of an interview.
You'd do well to listen to your last statement, It is not 3D chess when you recognize the obvious. Idiots voted for this man hoping for the moon. It was stupid of them.
No they did not. Hope was the slogan for the last presidency. This was a fuck the establishment vote. Part of the establishment took a massive hit yesterday. His voters will dig that.
And Trump is doing a bang up job with all the Goldman people in his cabinet.
http://thefederalist.com/2017/05/11/want-checks-balances-stop-ignoring-constitution-youre-power/#.WRRvZQS4UFg.facebook
In a nutshell...Harsanyi believes the firing was a mistake but that it wasn't about Russia...it was about Trump being Trump.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
I think this whole "morale" thing is a red hearing. In any agency you will have a percentage of people who loved the boss and another percentage that hated the boss. There is no doubt either side can find a handful of agents who will support them on the "morale" question...some will say it was terrible before and some will say it is terrible now. Either way it doesn't matter...all that matters is who Trump nominates as the replacement. If the replacement is seen as credible then the morale question is solved.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Optimistically clinging to hope, eh?BS44325 said:
Uhhh...no. I am still a neocon. This has zero to do with nationalism. We are talking about one action...the firing of Comey. It is irrelevant to the discussion of political philosophy. I believe Trump has the right to fire Comey. I believe he should have fired him a long time ago. I recognize that politically it looks terrible and might come with a short term price. None of that speaks to being a nationalist or a neocon and if anything since taking office Trump has moved towards the neocon position in action and in deed...it is why I can cut him some slack from time to time because aside from the daily messiness he is moving in a direction that I like.mrussel1 said:
Okay so the neocon is now a nationalist (Canadian who supports a US Nationalist..irony....) because the nationalist won the election. So he says "fuck em". I think we can now put you into the intellectually dishonest category at this point.BS44325 said:
No. You have lost your cool. And as far as the "intellectually honest conservatives" are concerned...fuck 'em....what makes them so "intellectual"? Most were #nevertrump from the get go and wrongly predicted that Trump would crash and burn in November while taking the entire GOPnwith him. Trump did it without those people and need not rely on their "intellectual honesty" for his support. Comey needed to go. Period. The end. An intellectually honest person recognizes that and makes the right leadership position irrespective of the outrage to follow. Trump did what was necessary while the real hacks cower.mrussel1 said:
No, I'm just embarrassed for you. You're trying to defend the indefensible. David French, Larison, Dreher, none of the intellectually honest conservatives are defending his actions. The only ones that do are the lemmings and the hacks. Hannity, Rush, Alex Jones, Savage...the fucking hacks. And now you, even using the stupid campaign slogans that were totally full of shit.BS44325 said:
You're losing your cool.mrussel1 said:
Whatever, another bullshit answer and you know it. You're now an official lemming. Make sure you use the word "fake" in everything you say. It's especially comical coming from you, an avowed neocon. They are the GOP establishment.BS44325 said:
He is part of the swamp. The one that needs to be drained.mrussel1 said:
How is Comey establishment? Is it because he went to college and got a job? He's a law enforcement officer for Christ sake's.BS44325 said:
Comey is establishment. Bipartisan disgust for him. Like I said earlier...two days ago Comey being useless was the one thing the whole world agreed on.Go Beavers said:
How did part of the establishment take a hit, and then what will his voters be digging?BS44325 said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
You're reeling a bit.BS44325 said:
Trump has only ever given train wreck interviews. You seem to be stuck on the idea that it matters. It has never mattered and it will likely continue to never matter. It is not 3D chess when you recognize the obvious.dignin said:So can we finally put this myth to bed that Trump is brilliant and playing some kind of 3D chess?
Even the dimmest of bulbs among us must have come to the realization that the man is an idiot.
His people must be pooping their pants after that train wreck of an interview.
You'd do well to listen to your last statement, It is not 3D chess when you recognize the obvious. Idiots voted for this man hoping for the moon. It was stupid of them.
No they did not. Hope was the slogan for the last presidency. This was a fuck the establishment vote. Part of the establishment took a massive hit yesterday. His voters will dig that.
And Trump is doing a bang up job with all the Goldman people in his cabinet.
Comey was more supported than you're suggesting. Agents are a little ticked and they have been expressing their concern:
"The firing of FBI Director James Comey has reportedly sent morale plunging at an agency already enduring one of its most tumultuous periods in history."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/fbi-agents-james-comey-change-profile-photos-a7730496.html
To me, Trump's threatening tweet is rather ominous. Who says, "If you tell on me, I'll tell on you" if they don't have anything they are concerned about being 'told on' for?
I don't think you are going to like what will undoubtedly be unfolding in the next while. I've been of the opinion that impeachment was unlikely; however, I'm beginning to think it is inevitable.
Also...I ain't "optimistic". I am on the "world is heading toward disaster" team. I supported Trump over Hillary as a hail mary pass. I like the direction things are moving but I am not optimistic that disaster can be averted.0 -
Funny.BS44325 said:
I think this whole "morale" thing is a red hearing. In any agency you will have a percentage of people who loved the boss and another percentage that hated the boss. There is no doubt either side can find a handful of agents who will support them on the "morale" question...some will say it was terrible before and some will say it is terrible now. Either way it doesn't matter...all that matters is who Trump nominates as the replacement. If the replacement is seen as credible then the morale question is solved.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Optimistically clinging to hope, eh?BS44325 said:
Uhhh...no. I am still a neocon. This has zero to do with nationalism. We are talking about one action...the firing of Comey. It is irrelevant to the discussion of political philosophy. I believe Trump has the right to fire Comey. I believe he should have fired him a long time ago. I recognize that politically it looks terrible and might come with a short term price. None of that speaks to being a nationalist or a neocon and if anything since taking office Trump has moved towards the neocon position in action and in deed...it is why I can cut him some slack from time to time because aside from the daily messiness he is moving in a direction that I like.mrussel1 said:
Okay so the neocon is now a nationalist (Canadian who supports a US Nationalist..irony....) because the nationalist won the election. So he says "fuck em". I think we can now put you into the intellectually dishonest category at this point.BS44325 said:
No. You have lost your cool. And as far as the "intellectually honest conservatives" are concerned...fuck 'em....what makes them so "intellectual"? Most were #nevertrump from the get go and wrongly predicted that Trump would crash and burn in November while taking the entire GOPnwith him. Trump did it without those people and need not rely on their "intellectual honesty" for his support. Comey needed to go. Period. The end. An intellectually honest person recognizes that and makes the right leadership position irrespective of the outrage to follow. Trump did what was necessary while the real hacks cower.mrussel1 said:
No, I'm just embarrassed for you. You're trying to defend the indefensible. David French, Larison, Dreher, none of the intellectually honest conservatives are defending his actions. The only ones that do are the lemmings and the hacks. Hannity, Rush, Alex Jones, Savage...the fucking hacks. And now you, even using the stupid campaign slogans that were totally full of shit.BS44325 said:
You're losing your cool.mrussel1 said:
Whatever, another bullshit answer and you know it. You're now an official lemming. Make sure you use the word "fake" in everything you say. It's especially comical coming from you, an avowed neocon. They are the GOP establishment.BS44325 said:
He is part of the swamp. The one that needs to be drained.mrussel1 said:
How is Comey establishment? Is it because he went to college and got a job? He's a law enforcement officer for Christ sake's.BS44325 said:
Comey is establishment. Bipartisan disgust for him. Like I said earlier...two days ago Comey being useless was the one thing the whole world agreed on.Go Beavers said:
How did part of the establishment take a hit, and then what will his voters be digging?BS44325 said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
You're reeling a bit.BS44325 said:
Trump has only ever given train wreck interviews. You seem to be stuck on the idea that it matters. It has never mattered and it will likely continue to never matter. It is not 3D chess when you recognize the obvious.dignin said:So can we finally put this myth to bed that Trump is brilliant and playing some kind of 3D chess?
Even the dimmest of bulbs among us must have come to the realization that the man is an idiot.
His people must be pooping their pants after that train wreck of an interview.
You'd do well to listen to your last statement, It is not 3D chess when you recognize the obvious. Idiots voted for this man hoping for the moon. It was stupid of them.
No they did not. Hope was the slogan for the last presidency. This was a fuck the establishment vote. Part of the establishment took a massive hit yesterday. His voters will dig that.
And Trump is doing a bang up job with all the Goldman people in his cabinet.
Comey was more supported than you're suggesting. Agents are a little ticked and they have been expressing their concern:
"The firing of FBI Director James Comey has reportedly sent morale plunging at an agency already enduring one of its most tumultuous periods in history."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/fbi-agents-james-comey-change-profile-photos-a7730496.html
To me, Trump's threatening tweet is rather ominous. Who says, "If you tell on me, I'll tell on you" if they don't have anything they are concerned about being 'told on' for?
I don't think you are going to like what will undoubtedly be unfolding in the next while. I've been of the opinion that impeachment was unlikely; however, I'm beginning to think it is inevitable.
Also...I ain't "optimistic". I am on the "world is heading toward disaster" team. I supported Trump over Hillary as a hail mary pass. I like the direction things are moving but I am not optimistic that disaster can be averted.
I'm on the same team, but I don't see Trump helping matters. I never thought he could and I do not think he can. I see him as very detrimental to the human cause.
In the end... it might all be meaningless anyways. Human beings can't get out of our own way. Exponential growth, unsustainability, and our very nature will see our downfall. The planet will cycle. New growth will appear.
We have a few more centuries (hopefully). And then that'll be it."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
You have the luxury of not having to deal with Trump's domestic policies. So you can applaud a Syrian strike (decoupled as it is from a strategy) or the saber rattling on Iran and N. Korea (with no discernible results) and whatever else interventionist mindset he is in from day to day. And you get to do this without sacrificing your blood or treasure.BS44325 said:
I think this whole "morale" thing is a red hearing. In any agency you will have a percentage of people who loved the boss and another percentage that hated the boss. There is no doubt either side can find a handful of agents who will support them on the "morale" question...some will say it was terrible before and some will say it is terrible now. Either way it doesn't matter...all that matters is who Trump nominates as the replacement. If the replacement is seen as credible then the morale question is solved.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Optimistically clinging to hope, eh?BS44325 said:
Uhhh...no. I am still a neocon. This has zero to do with nationalism. We are talking about one action...the firing of Comey. It is irrelevant to the discussion of political philosophy. I believe Trump has the right to fire Comey. I believe he should have fired him a long time ago. I recognize that politically it looks terrible and might come with a short term price. None of that speaks to being a nationalist or a neocon and if anything since taking office Trump has moved towards the neocon position in action and in deed...it is why I can cut him some slack from time to time because aside from the daily messiness he is moving in a direction that I like.mrussel1 said:
Okay so the neocon is now a nationalist (Canadian who supports a US Nationalist..irony....) because the nationalist won the election. So he says "fuck em". I think we can now put you into the intellectually dishonest category at this point.BS44325 said:
No. You have lost your cool. And as far as the "intellectually honest conservatives" are concerned...fuck 'em....what makes them so "intellectual"? Most were #nevertrump from the get go and wrongly predicted that Trump would crash and burn in November while taking the entire GOPnwith him. Trump did it without those people and need not rely on their "intellectual honesty" for his support. Comey needed to go. Period. The end. An intellectually honest person recognizes that and makes the right leadership position irrespective of the outrage to follow. Trump did what was necessary while the real hacks cower.mrussel1 said:
No, I'm just embarrassed for you. You're trying to defend the indefensible. David French, Larison, Dreher, none of the intellectually honest conservatives are defending his actions. The only ones that do are the lemmings and the hacks. Hannity, Rush, Alex Jones, Savage...the fucking hacks. And now you, even using the stupid campaign slogans that were totally full of shit.BS44325 said:
You're losing your cool.mrussel1 said:
Whatever, another bullshit answer and you know it. You're now an official lemming. Make sure you use the word "fake" in everything you say. It's especially comical coming from you, an avowed neocon. They are the GOP establishment.BS44325 said:
He is part of the swamp. The one that needs to be drained.mrussel1 said:
How is Comey establishment? Is it because he went to college and got a job? He's a law enforcement officer for Christ sake's.BS44325 said:
Comey is establishment. Bipartisan disgust for him. Like I said earlier...two days ago Comey being useless was the one thing the whole world agreed on.Go Beavers said:
How did part of the establishment take a hit, and then what will his voters be digging?BS44325 said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
You're reeling a bit.BS44325 said:
Trump has only ever given train wreck interviews. You seem to be stuck on the idea that it matters. It has never mattered and it will likely continue to never matter. It is not 3D chess when you recognize the obvious.dignin said:So can we finally put this myth to bed that Trump is brilliant and playing some kind of 3D chess?
Even the dimmest of bulbs among us must have come to the realization that the man is an idiot.
His people must be pooping their pants after that train wreck of an interview.
You'd do well to listen to your last statement, It is not 3D chess when you recognize the obvious. Idiots voted for this man hoping for the moon. It was stupid of them.
No they did not. Hope was the slogan for the last presidency. This was a fuck the establishment vote. Part of the establishment took a massive hit yesterday. His voters will dig that.
And Trump is doing a bang up job with all the Goldman people in his cabinet.
Comey was more supported than you're suggesting. Agents are a little ticked and they have been expressing their concern:
"The firing of FBI Director James Comey has reportedly sent morale plunging at an agency already enduring one of its most tumultuous periods in history."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/fbi-agents-james-comey-change-profile-photos-a7730496.html
To me, Trump's threatening tweet is rather ominous. Who says, "If you tell on me, I'll tell on you" if they don't have anything they are concerned about being 'told on' for?
I don't think you are going to like what will undoubtedly be unfolding in the next while. I've been of the opinion that impeachment was unlikely; however, I'm beginning to think it is inevitable.
Also...I ain't "optimistic". I am on the "world is heading toward disaster" team. I supported Trump over Hillary as a hail mary pass. I like the direction things are moving but I am not optimistic that disaster can be averted.
But the rest of us have to deal with a ballooning deficit based on a proposed 20 point tax cut with no changes to social benefits, TrumpCare that is mildly retarded and not read by anyone that voted for it, or Sessions trying to increase the penalties for non violent drug charges, along with a host of other bass-ackward protectionist policies that have been proven to be fruitless by centuries of history. And NOW he's threatening to blackmail Comey. Nice. What a maroon.0 -
You like trump taking us in the direction of a Constitutional crisis?BS44325 said:
I think this whole "morale" thing is a red hearing. In any agency you will have a percentage of people who loved the boss and another percentage that hated the boss. There is no doubt either side can find a handful of agents who will support them on the "morale" question...some will say it was terrible before and some will say it is terrible now. Either way it doesn't matter...all that matters is who Trump nominates as the replacement. If the replacement is seen as credible then the morale question is solved.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Optimistically clinging to hope, eh?BS44325 said:
Uhhh...no. I am still a neocon. This has zero to do with nationalism. We are talking about one action...the firing of Comey. It is irrelevant to the discussion of political philosophy. I believe Trump has the right to fire Comey. I believe he should have fired him a long time ago. I recognize that politically it looks terrible and might come with a short term price. None of that speaks to being a nationalist or a neocon and if anything since taking office Trump has moved towards the neocon position in action and in deed...it is why I can cut him some slack from time to time because aside from the daily messiness he is moving in a direction that I like.mrussel1 said:
Okay so the neocon is now a nationalist (Canadian who supports a US Nationalist..irony....) because the nationalist won the election. So he says "fuck em". I think we can now put you into the intellectually dishonest category at this point.BS44325 said:
No. You have lost your cool. And as far as the "intellectually honest conservatives" are concerned...fuck 'em....what makes them so "intellectual"? Most were #nevertrump from the get go and wrongly predicted that Trump would crash and burn in November while taking the entire GOPnwith him. Trump did it without those people and need not rely on their "intellectual honesty" for his support. Comey needed to go. Period. The end. An intellectually honest person recognizes that and makes the right leadership position irrespective of the outrage to follow. Trump did what was necessary while the real hacks cower.mrussel1 said:
No, I'm just embarrassed for you. You're trying to defend the indefensible. David French, Larison, Dreher, none of the intellectually honest conservatives are defending his actions. The only ones that do are the lemmings and the hacks. Hannity, Rush, Alex Jones, Savage...the fucking hacks. And now you, even using the stupid campaign slogans that were totally full of shit.BS44325 said:
You're losing your cool.mrussel1 said:
Whatever, another bullshit answer and you know it. You're now an official lemming. Make sure you use the word "fake" in everything you say. It's especially comical coming from you, an avowed neocon. They are the GOP establishment.BS44325 said:
He is part of the swamp. The one that needs to be drained.mrussel1 said:
How is Comey establishment? Is it because he went to college and got a job? He's a law enforcement officer for Christ sake's.BS44325 said:
Comey is establishment. Bipartisan disgust for him. Like I said earlier...two days ago Comey being useless was the one thing the whole world agreed on.Go Beavers said:
How did part of the establishment take a hit, and then what will his voters be digging?BS44325 said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
You're reeling a bit.BS44325 said:
Trump has only ever given train wreck interviews. You seem to be stuck on the idea that it matters. It has never mattered and it will likely continue to never matter. It is not 3D chess when you recognize the obvious.dignin said:So can we finally put this myth to bed that Trump is brilliant and playing some kind of 3D chess?
Even the dimmest of bulbs among us must have come to the realization that the man is an idiot.
His people must be pooping their pants after that train wreck of an interview.
You'd do well to listen to your last statement, It is not 3D chess when you recognize the obvious. Idiots voted for this man hoping for the moon. It was stupid of them.
No they did not. Hope was the slogan for the last presidency. This was a fuck the establishment vote. Part of the establishment took a massive hit yesterday. His voters will dig that.
And Trump is doing a bang up job with all the Goldman people in his cabinet.
Comey was more supported than you're suggesting. Agents are a little ticked and they have been expressing their concern:
"The firing of FBI Director James Comey has reportedly sent morale plunging at an agency already enduring one of its most tumultuous periods in history."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/fbi-agents-james-comey-change-profile-photos-a7730496.html
To me, Trump's threatening tweet is rather ominous. Who says, "If you tell on me, I'll tell on you" if they don't have anything they are concerned about being 'told on' for?
I don't think you are going to like what will undoubtedly be unfolding in the next while. I've been of the opinion that impeachment was unlikely; however, I'm beginning to think it is inevitable.
Also...I ain't "optimistic". I am on the "world is heading toward disaster" team. I supported Trump over Hillary as a hail mary pass. I like the direction things are moving but I am not optimistic that disaster can be averted.
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You don't have a constitutional crisis. You have an identity crisis.Go Beavers said:
You like trump taking us in the direction of a Constitutional crisis?BS44325 said:
I think this whole "morale" thing is a red hearing. In any agency you will have a percentage of people who loved the boss and another percentage that hated the boss. There is no doubt either side can find a handful of agents who will support them on the "morale" question...some will say it was terrible before and some will say it is terrible now. Either way it doesn't matter...all that matters is who Trump nominates as the replacement. If the replacement is seen as credible then the morale question is solved.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Optimistically clinging to hope, eh?BS44325 said:
Uhhh...no. I am still a neocon. This has zero to do with nationalism. We are talking about one action...the firing of Comey. It is irrelevant to the discussion of political philosophy. I believe Trump has the right to fire Comey. I believe he should have fired him a long time ago. I recognize that politically it looks terrible and might come with a short term price. None of that speaks to being a nationalist or a neocon and if anything since taking office Trump has moved towards the neocon position in action and in deed...it is why I can cut him some slack from time to time because aside from the daily messiness he is moving in a direction that I like.mrussel1 said:
Okay so the neocon is now a nationalist (Canadian who supports a US Nationalist..irony....) because the nationalist won the election. So he says "fuck em". I think we can now put you into the intellectually dishonest category at this point.BS44325 said:
No. You have lost your cool. And as far as the "intellectually honest conservatives" are concerned...fuck 'em....what makes them so "intellectual"? Most were #nevertrump from the get go and wrongly predicted that Trump would crash and burn in November while taking the entire GOPnwith him. Trump did it without those people and need not rely on their "intellectual honesty" for his support. Comey needed to go. Period. The end. An intellectually honest person recognizes that and makes the right leadership position irrespective of the outrage to follow. Trump did what was necessary while the real hacks cower.mrussel1 said:
No, I'm just embarrassed for you. You're trying to defend the indefensible. David French, Larison, Dreher, none of the intellectually honest conservatives are defending his actions. The only ones that do are the lemmings and the hacks. Hannity, Rush, Alex Jones, Savage...the fucking hacks. And now you, even using the stupid campaign slogans that were totally full of shit.BS44325 said:
You're losing your cool.mrussel1 said:
Whatever, another bullshit answer and you know it. You're now an official lemming. Make sure you use the word "fake" in everything you say. It's especially comical coming from you, an avowed neocon. They are the GOP establishment.BS44325 said:
He is part of the swamp. The one that needs to be drained.mrussel1 said:
How is Comey establishment? Is it because he went to college and got a job? He's a law enforcement officer for Christ sake's.BS44325 said:
Comey is establishment. Bipartisan disgust for him. Like I said earlier...two days ago Comey being useless was the one thing the whole world agreed on.Go Beavers said:
How did part of the establishment take a hit, and then what will his voters be digging?BS44325 said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
You're reeling a bit.BS44325 said:
Trump has only ever given train wreck interviews. You seem to be stuck on the idea that it matters. It has never mattered and it will likely continue to never matter. It is not 3D chess when you recognize the obvious.dignin said:So can we finally put this myth to bed that Trump is brilliant and playing some kind of 3D chess?
Even the dimmest of bulbs among us must have come to the realization that the man is an idiot.
His people must be pooping their pants after that train wreck of an interview.
You'd do well to listen to your last statement, It is not 3D chess when you recognize the obvious. Idiots voted for this man hoping for the moon. It was stupid of them.
No they did not. Hope was the slogan for the last presidency. This was a fuck the establishment vote. Part of the establishment took a massive hit yesterday. His voters will dig that.
And Trump is doing a bang up job with all the Goldman people in his cabinet.
Comey was more supported than you're suggesting. Agents are a little ticked and they have been expressing their concern:
"The firing of FBI Director James Comey has reportedly sent morale plunging at an agency already enduring one of its most tumultuous periods in history."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/fbi-agents-james-comey-change-profile-photos-a7730496.html
To me, Trump's threatening tweet is rather ominous. Who says, "If you tell on me, I'll tell on you" if they don't have anything they are concerned about being 'told on' for?
I don't think you are going to like what will undoubtedly be unfolding in the next while. I've been of the opinion that impeachment was unlikely; however, I'm beginning to think it is inevitable.
Also...I ain't "optimistic". I am on the "world is heading toward disaster" team. I supported Trump over Hillary as a hail mary pass. I like the direction things are moving but I am not optimistic that disaster can be averted.0 -
So if trump is moving us to an identity crisis, what is that and why do you like it?BS44325 said:
You don't have a constitutional crisis. You have an identity crisis.Go Beavers said:
You like trump taking us in the direction of a Constitutional crisis?BS44325 said:
I think this whole "morale" thing is a red hearing. In any agency you will have a percentage of people who loved the boss and another percentage that hated the boss. There is no doubt either side can find a handful of agents who will support them on the "morale" question...some will say it was terrible before and some will say it is terrible now. Either way it doesn't matter...all that matters is who Trump nominates as the replacement. If the replacement is seen as credible then the morale question is solved.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
Optimistically clinging to hope, eh?BS44325 said:
Uhhh...no. I am still a neocon. This has zero to do with nationalism. We are talking about one action...the firing of Comey. It is irrelevant to the discussion of political philosophy. I believe Trump has the right to fire Comey. I believe he should have fired him a long time ago. I recognize that politically it looks terrible and might come with a short term price. None of that speaks to being a nationalist or a neocon and if anything since taking office Trump has moved towards the neocon position in action and in deed...it is why I can cut him some slack from time to time because aside from the daily messiness he is moving in a direction that I like.mrussel1 said:
Okay so the neocon is now a nationalist (Canadian who supports a US Nationalist..irony....) because the nationalist won the election. So he says "fuck em". I think we can now put you into the intellectually dishonest category at this point.BS44325 said:
No. You have lost your cool. And as far as the "intellectually honest conservatives" are concerned...fuck 'em....what makes them so "intellectual"? Most were #nevertrump from the get go and wrongly predicted that Trump would crash and burn in November while taking the entire GOPnwith him. Trump did it without those people and need not rely on their "intellectual honesty" for his support. Comey needed to go. Period. The end. An intellectually honest person recognizes that and makes the right leadership position irrespective of the outrage to follow. Trump did what was necessary while the real hacks cower.mrussel1 said:
No, I'm just embarrassed for you. You're trying to defend the indefensible. David French, Larison, Dreher, none of the intellectually honest conservatives are defending his actions. The only ones that do are the lemmings and the hacks. Hannity, Rush, Alex Jones, Savage...the fucking hacks. And now you, even using the stupid campaign slogans that were totally full of shit.BS44325 said:
You're losing your cool.mrussel1 said:
Whatever, another bullshit answer and you know it. You're now an official lemming. Make sure you use the word "fake" in everything you say. It's especially comical coming from you, an avowed neocon. They are the GOP establishment.BS44325 said:
He is part of the swamp. The one that needs to be drained.mrussel1 said:
How is Comey establishment? Is it because he went to college and got a job? He's a law enforcement officer for Christ sake's.BS44325 said:
Comey is establishment. Bipartisan disgust for him. Like I said earlier...two days ago Comey being useless was the one thing the whole world agreed on.Go Beavers said:
How did part of the establishment take a hit, and then what will his voters be digging?BS44325 said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
You're reeling a bit.BS44325 said:
Trump has only ever given train wreck interviews. You seem to be stuck on the idea that it matters. It has never mattered and it will likely continue to never matter. It is not 3D chess when you recognize the obvious.dignin said:So can we finally put this myth to bed that Trump is brilliant and playing some kind of 3D chess?
Even the dimmest of bulbs among us must have come to the realization that the man is an idiot.
His people must be pooping their pants after that train wreck of an interview.
You'd do well to listen to your last statement, It is not 3D chess when you recognize the obvious. Idiots voted for this man hoping for the moon. It was stupid of them.
No they did not. Hope was the slogan for the last presidency. This was a fuck the establishment vote. Part of the establishment took a massive hit yesterday. His voters will dig that.
And Trump is doing a bang up job with all the Goldman people in his cabinet.
Comey was more supported than you're suggesting. Agents are a little ticked and they have been expressing their concern:
"The firing of FBI Director James Comey has reportedly sent morale plunging at an agency already enduring one of its most tumultuous periods in history."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/fbi-agents-james-comey-change-profile-photos-a7730496.html
To me, Trump's threatening tweet is rather ominous. Who says, "If you tell on me, I'll tell on you" if they don't have anything they are concerned about being 'told on' for?
I don't think you are going to like what will undoubtedly be unfolding in the next while. I've been of the opinion that impeachment was unlikely; however, I'm beginning to think it is inevitable.
Also...I ain't "optimistic". I am on the "world is heading toward disaster" team. I supported Trump over Hillary as a hail mary pass. I like the direction things are moving but I am not optimistic that disaster can be averted.
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