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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,197

    Trump finally gets a daily intelligence brief. Why is that?

    Today's Events

    9:00 AM: Vice President Mike Pence delivers remarks at the World Summit in defense of persecuted Christians
    10:00 AM: President Donald J. Trump receives his daily intelligence briefing
    1:30 PM: Press Briefing with Principal Deputy Press Secretary Sarah Sanders Watch


    Because he compromised the operational security of the Oval Office?

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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    BS44325 said:
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    dignin said:
    So can we finally put this myth to bed that Trump is brilliant and playing some kind of 3D chess?

    Even the dimmest of bulbs among us must have come to the realization that the man is an idiot.

    His people must be pooping their pants after that train wreck of an interview.
    Trump has only ever given train wreck interviews. You seem to be stuck on the idea that it matters. It has never mattered and it will likely continue to never matter. It is not 3D chess when you recognize the obvious.
    You're reeling a bit.

    You'd do well to listen to your last statement, It is not 3D chess when you recognize the obvious. Idiots voted for this man hoping for the moon. It was stupid of them.

    No they did not. Hope was the slogan for the last presidency. This was a fuck the establishment vote. Part of the establishment took a massive hit yesterday. His voters will dig that. 
    I'm still baffled how an Ivy League-educated, New York City billionaire that spent the 1980s sucking up to liberal elites in New York, is the champion for the disenfranchised, anti-establishment, rural working class.
    Because accurate or not he always marketed himself as the billionaire you want to be. He marketed himself as the billionaire you could be! Americans deep down and from all walks of life want to succeed. That American Dream is real. He tapped into that spirit many many years ago.
    His voters are just like him...except for the whole "being born into it thing."  
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
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    and I can't wrap my head around why some of you keep trying to prove BS wrong. he's not wrong. I haven't seen much, if anything, he has said that isn't true. he is stating nothing but facts, as far as I can tell. he's not a trump supporter, he's a supporter of what's actually happening, or how he perceives things to be happening, not of what he hopes to happen. 
    He has been emphatic declaring that this was a collective movement on the part of an American public that sought meaningful change from the establishment.

    That is simply not the case. While an aspect of it is true, this president is a result of a candidate pandering to a naive base that eagerly bought into a dream (America getting great again) and policies that aligned with their views on various items including race.

    And early on... he was more overtly promoting Trump over Clinton- bristling when Clinton was spoken to favourably and defensive when Trump was attacked. He's obviously eased off his position given how supporting him now would make him look like a fool (choosing his words very carefully).
    What? This is proof that you haven't followed along...at all. Trump was my last choice of every Republican candidate but I had a feeling he would win the minute he came down the escalator and I knew he would win the minute Scott Walker dropped out of the race. I understood what he was doing and thought his strategy was brilliant whether I like him or not. Now when it came to the general I absolutely supported him over Hillary. I always said of two shitty candidates he was the one with more potential upside and I also explained how he could use his attributes to his advantage once it came time to govern. I still believe that and I am not "easing off" anything...not a g-ddamn thing.
    The line you have walked has not been as clear as you claim, BS.

    Messages can sometimes be misinterpreted, but I'm not the only one to note you, in subtle and diminishing fashion, placing some distance between yourself and the candidate you originally 'appeared' to have championed.

    Optics aside... I'll say that you often choose the unpopular position on key issues and you represent that position very well. It's tough to do around here and I appreciate your contributions. Don't ever confuse my posts as disrespectful- even if they come across that way.
    Not to worry...I do not see it as disrespectful. It's rough and tumble here sometimes and I like it. On this point where I would say you are mistaken is that yes I championed him over Clinton. I absolutely did 100% and I would still champion him over her. I am not distancing myself from that. However I never championed him as the republican of my choice. Far from it. He would have been my last choice even though I understood that he could win.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,881
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    mrussel1 said:
    Sarah Huckabee Sanders says that the Rank and File had lost confidence in Comey.  She wasn't under oath.

    Acting Director McCabe said "that is absolutely not true".  He is under oath.  

    Another person has sold their integrity to the devil that is DJT.  How many people will he drag into the mud with him?  How many people will lie for him?  Word is from a Comey source is that he refused to pledge personal loyalty to Trump just last week.  That was the end of Comey.  


    The Daily Caller is reporting otherwise 

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/17/exclusive-fbi-agents-say-comey-stood-in-the-way-of-clinton-email-investigation/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

     “People are starting to talk. They’re calling their former friends outside the bureau asking for help. We were asked to day to provide legal representation to people inside the bureau and agreed to do so and to former agents who want to come forward and talk. Comey thought this was going to go away.”

    He explained, “It’s not. People inside the bureau are furious. They are embarrassed. They feel like they are being led by a hack but more than that that they think he’s a crook. They think he’s fundamentally dishonest. They have no confidence in him. The bureau inside right now is a mess.”

    He added, “The most important thing of all is that the agents have decided that they are going to talk.”

    People on background to the Daily Caller or guy under oath..  Hmm...  One report from today or the one right before the election.  Hmm.  One quote is contemporaneous and one is out of the dust bins of history.  Hmm.  
  • dignin
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    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Sarah Huckabee Sanders says that the Rank and File had lost confidence in Comey.  She wasn't under oath.

    Acting Director McCabe said "that is absolutely not true".  He is under oath.  

    Another person has sold their integrity to the devil that is DJT.  How many people will he drag into the mud with him?  How many people will lie for him?  Word is from a Comey source is that he refused to pledge personal loyalty to Trump just last week.  That was the end of Comey.  


    The Daily Caller is reporting otherwise 

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/17/exclusive-fbi-agents-say-comey-stood-in-the-way-of-clinton-email-investigation/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

     “People are starting to talk. They’re calling their former friends outside the bureau asking for help. We were asked to day to provide legal representation to people inside the bureau and agreed to do so and to former agents who want to come forward and talk. Comey thought this was going to go away.”

    He explained, “It’s not. People inside the bureau are furious. They are embarrassed. They feel like they are being led by a hack but more than that that they think he’s a crook. They think he’s fundamentally dishonest. They have no confidence in him. The bureau inside right now is a mess.”

    He added, “The most important thing of all is that the agents have decided that they are going to talk.”

    People on background to the Daily Caller or guy under oath..  Hmm...  One report from today or the one right before the election.  Hmm.  One quote is contemporaneous and one is out of the dust bins of history.  Hmm.  
    But one is confirmation bias, so it wins the day! 
  • BS44325
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    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Sarah Huckabee Sanders says that the Rank and File had lost confidence in Comey.  She wasn't under oath.

    Acting Director McCabe said "that is absolutely not true".  He is under oath.  

    Another person has sold their integrity to the devil that is DJT.  How many people will he drag into the mud with him?  How many people will lie for him?  Word is from a Comey source is that he refused to pledge personal loyalty to Trump just last week.  That was the end of Comey.  


    The Daily Caller is reporting otherwise 

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/17/exclusive-fbi-agents-say-comey-stood-in-the-way-of-clinton-email-investigation/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

     “People are starting to talk. They’re calling their former friends outside the bureau asking for help. We were asked to day to provide legal representation to people inside the bureau and agreed to do so and to former agents who want to come forward and talk. Comey thought this was going to go away.”

    He explained, “It’s not. People inside the bureau are furious. They are embarrassed. They feel like they are being led by a hack but more than that that they think he’s a crook. They think he’s fundamentally dishonest. They have no confidence in him. The bureau inside right now is a mess.”

    He added, “The most important thing of all is that the agents have decided that they are going to talk.”

    People on background to the Daily Caller or guy under oath..  Hmm...  One report from today or the one right before the election.  Hmm.  One quote is contemporaneous and one is out of the dust bins of history.  Hmm.  
    Haaa. My entire point is that the whole Russia thread is "people on background" vs "people under oath"! You can't choose when to accept one over the other. Let's admit the public evidence we have on any of these issues is thin as shit!
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,419

    Trump finally gets a daily intelligence brief. Why is that?

    Today's Events

    9:00 AM: Vice President Mike Pence delivers remarks at the World Summit in defense of persecuted Christians
    10:00 AM: President Donald J. Trump receives his daily intelligence briefing
    1:30 PM: Press Briefing with Principal Deputy Press Secretary Sarah Sanders Watch


    Because he compromised the operational security of the Oval Office?

    Because as he himself once said...

    "Im a smart guy I don't  need intelligence "
  • mrussel1
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    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Sarah Huckabee Sanders says that the Rank and File had lost confidence in Comey.  She wasn't under oath.

    Acting Director McCabe said "that is absolutely not true".  He is under oath.  

    Another person has sold their integrity to the devil that is DJT.  How many people will he drag into the mud with him?  How many people will lie for him?  Word is from a Comey source is that he refused to pledge personal loyalty to Trump just last week.  That was the end of Comey.  


    The Daily Caller is reporting otherwise 

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/17/exclusive-fbi-agents-say-comey-stood-in-the-way-of-clinton-email-investigation/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

     “People are starting to talk. They’re calling their former friends outside the bureau asking for help. We were asked to day to provide legal representation to people inside the bureau and agreed to do so and to former agents who want to come forward and talk. Comey thought this was going to go away.”

    He explained, “It’s not. People inside the bureau are furious. They are embarrassed. They feel like they are being led by a hack but more than that that they think he’s a crook. They think he’s fundamentally dishonest. They have no confidence in him. The bureau inside right now is a mess.”

    He added, “The most important thing of all is that the agents have decided that they are going to talk.”

    People on background to the Daily Caller or guy under oath..  Hmm...  One report from today or the one right before the election.  Hmm.  One quote is contemporaneous and one is out of the dust bins of history.  Hmm.  
    Haaa. My entire point is that the whole Russia thread is "people on background" vs "people under oath"! You can't choose when to accept one over the other. Let's admit the public evidence we have on any of these issues is thin as shit!
    Bullshit, again.  So you are saying that Comey has denied under oath that he is investigating the Trump team's ties to Russia during the campaign?  Is that your position here?  Like, WTF are you exactly arguing?  That there's no investigation?  That there's no subpoena's coming out of a grand jury or out of the Senate committee?  Are you saying that?  

  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,419
    edited May 2017

     Ethics Office Wants To Know If Trump Appointees Are Keeping Their Promises http://n.pr/2qwOzFZ

    Следить за деньгами
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610

    Trump finally gets a daily intelligence brief. Why is that?

    Today's Events

    9:00 AM: Vice President Mike Pence delivers remarks at the World Summit in defense of persecuted Christians
    10:00 AM: President Donald J. Trump receives his daily intelligence briefing
    1:30 PM: Press Briefing with Principal Deputy Press Secretary Sarah Sanders Watch


    Because he compromised the operational security of the Oval Office?

    10:00 AM must be when Fox & Friends ends.  So Trump kinda considers it is second intelligence briefing.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,197
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Sarah Huckabee Sanders says that the Rank and File had lost confidence in Comey.  She wasn't under oath.

    Acting Director McCabe said "that is absolutely not true".  He is under oath.  

    Another person has sold their integrity to the devil that is DJT.  How many people will he drag into the mud with him?  How many people will lie for him?  Word is from a Comey source is that he refused to pledge personal loyalty to Trump just last week.  That was the end of Comey.  


    The Daily Caller is reporting otherwise 

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/17/exclusive-fbi-agents-say-comey-stood-in-the-way-of-clinton-email-investigation/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

     “People are starting to talk. They’re calling their former friends outside the bureau asking for help. We were asked to day to provide legal representation to people inside the bureau and agreed to do so and to former agents who want to come forward and talk. Comey thought this was going to go away.”

    He explained, “It’s not. People inside the bureau are furious. They are embarrassed. They feel like they are being led by a hack but more than that that they think he’s a crook. They think he’s fundamentally dishonest. They have no confidence in him. The bureau inside right now is a mess.”

    He added, “The most important thing of all is that the agents have decided that they are going to talk.”

    People on background to the Daily Caller or guy under oath..  Hmm...  One report from today or the one right before the election.  Hmm.  One quote is contemporaneous and one is out of the dust bins of history.  Hmm.  
    Haaa. My entire point is that the whole Russia thread is "people on background" vs "people under oath"! You can't choose when to accept one over the other. Let's admit the public evidence we have on any of these issues is thin as shit!


    There are known knowns. There are known unknowns. And there are unknown unknowns. Trump could make all of this go away by releasing his tax returns and fully cooperating, and directing those close to him to fully cooperate, with all 9-10 investigations.

    But instead, we have to follow the money, from Russia with love, all the way to impeachment.

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  • mrussel1
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    OnWis97 said:

    Trump finally gets a daily intelligence brief. Why is that?

    Today's Events

    9:00 AM: Vice President Mike Pence delivers remarks at the World Summit in defense of persecuted Christians
    10:00 AM: President Donald J. Trump receives his daily intelligence briefing
    1:30 PM: Press Briefing with Principal Deputy Press Secretary Sarah Sanders Watch


    Because he compromised the operational security of the Oval Office?

    10:00 AM must be when Fox & Friends ends.  So Trump kinda considers it is second intelligence briefing.
    Ha!  So true!
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,881
    edited May 2017
    @BS44325

    Strange that this report conflicts with the rock solid October reporting from the Daily Caller... WH cancels trip to FBI HQ on advice of the bureau because "he would not be well received"..  I guess we'll see who's right within the week.  Is it McCabe or Tucker Carlson?  If he goes or does not, go...well there's the answer.  

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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,460
    Curious what all the forum Trump supporters think now? You guys bitched and moaned any time Obama went golfing and/or left your gun ranges for the grocery store, cleared out all the shelves and hunkered down in your underground bunkers thinking the world was coming to an end. So....whatcha' all think of this level of treason and corruption? Every president has probably had something to hide, but this? This is fucked.
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  • cincybearcat
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    I'm old enough to remember when Bill Clinton was impeached for telling ONE (1) lie.


    Our current POTUS can't open his mouth without lying.


    To be fair - he did lie under oath. It's actually a very different thing. Oh and he screwed a subordinate at the workplace....he was a sleaze.


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  • josevolution
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    I'm not on twitter but did he tweet about Rosie again while this crisis is happening lol this will be a really bad burn& crash administration might not happen tonight or tomorrow or next weekend but it will ! 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    edited May 2017
    Well, let's see... I don't usually look at Twitter, but maybe I should, because here are a few of his most recent tweets. They are very informative!


    "Russia must be laughing up their sleeves watching as the U.S. tears itself apart over a Democrat EXCUSE for losing the election."
    Followed by:
    "Yesterday, on the same day- I had meetings with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and the FM of Ukraine, Pavlo Klimkin. #LetsMakePeace!"

    This one is pretty hilarious:
    "'Presidential Executive Order on the Establishment of Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity'" coupled with a nice photo of him signing with Pence looking on adoringly.

    And, as always, making peace among Americans and ending divisions, all the while acting blissfully unaware of the fact that everyone is looking at one of the most egregious conflicts of interest in POTUS history:
    "Dems have been complaining for months & months about Dir. Comey. Now that he has been fired they PRETEND to be aggrieved. Phony hypocrites!"
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    edited May 2017
    Oh, and was sure to retweet this, obviously in order to improve trade relations, lol: http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/09/americas/mexico-second-deadliest-conflict-2016/

    He doesn't mind CNN and its fake news when it works for him, lol.

    HAHAHA, oh no, I've gone down the rabbit hole.

    So apparently now no news is also fake news. :lol:

    "Biggest story today between Clapper & Yates is on surveillance. Why doesn't the media report on this? #FakeNews!"


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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    edited May 2017
    Btw, his whole Twitter feed is EXTREMELY disturbing, re "Fake media". I'd say about 75% of his many, many tweets refer to the news media as the "fake media" or "fake news". The context isn't even a factor anymore. That's just what he calls it as a matter of course now. That is exactly how you brainwash the masses into not trusting the media and believing what he says instead, no matter what. He knows it. I know we all know this, but I just can't believe he is working so hard and openly on the #1 first step in establishing fascism. It's just fucking nuts. Reading his crazy twitter feed kind of brings it home again for me. Truly scary shit.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,881
    This was the funniest story of the day... Trump team furious that the Russians tricked them.  I think the official Obama response was "duh".  

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/11/politics/oval-office-photos-donald-trump-russians/

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