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  • mrussel1
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    Lerxst1992 said:
    Go Beavers said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    mrussel1 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    So just to be clear......there are people who are surprised that a textbook narcissist and pathological liar would try to make Memorial day about himself?? :o
    Lol. It's not really that it surprises me he thinks it or anything. What stuns me over and over again is that he doesn't filter it for appearance's sake, or that someone isn't monitoring every Tweet and stopping all the idiotic ones from getting sent. Surely Trump is aware by now that many of his tweets are damaging to him.... but he  just doesn't care. That's the weird part.
    He paid off a porn star for Chrissakes... there is literally nothing damaging to him at this point.  It's a sad commentary on the lives of the sycophants.  
    Which leads again to the question. ......

    What' worse?
    The lying narcissist who'll say anything he wants no matter how hateful, ignorant, racist, etc.?
    Or the person who supports him and his behavior?

    And when his party wins the house and Senate in a few months? Just watch him fire Rosie and  Bobby, uh oh. 

    Dems need to learn the lessons of the last four congressional elections. So far this year, they are not impressive.
    What are you using to gauge not impressive? They’ve flipped seats at the state level already. Dems probably won’t flip the Senate but they have a decent chancenwith the House. Mueller will probably be done late July/early August, and we’ll see what the fallout is from there. 



    To add to my other reply above, losing the House would be an absolute disaster for the Ds. Decent chance for the House?? Thats enough to give me agita  .

    If they lose... I would guess ... Mueller and Rosie would be fired by the end of 2018 (rumors are Mueller will not be releasing any major reports before election day), Medicare and social security would be privatized by 2019 and, any other guesses? Obamacare completely repealed?

    And Trump would be an overwhelming favorite for four more years. America loves to root for the winners.

    Yes Dems, you better figure this House race out before November.


    Who is Rosie?  And I think your rumors are completely wrong.  Mueller will likely release his report to Rosenstein by July or August, which would include any further indictments.  I would not expect Trump to be one of those, but could be a un-indicted co - conspirator.  That will not be public.  It will then go to the respective judiciary committees.  At that point, Rosenstein will have the choice to redact and release the report to the public.  He is under no legal obligation to do so, but I'm sure the pressure will be enormous.  

    Your predictions about Trump are total guesses and probably worth nothing (like everyone else's).  There are too many variables in play between now and 2020. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    One can only imagine.


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  • cincybearcat
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    One can only imagine.


    Clearly Stormy is nearby. That looks like the exact size.
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    The Juggler said:
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    Everytime I see Trump's press conferences I laugh because he's like some comical clown figure, someone you might expect from a Austin Powers movie. Then I remember, this guy is the president of the USA and in charge of the free world.
    Trump hasn't given a proper press conference in well over a year. Don't be fooled by these little things with foreign leaders where they're both required to take a few questions. Or when reporters are forced to shout questions to him while he walks to Marine One. These things are not press conferences. 
    Noted. I was actually wondering if I should use 'press conferences' when typing that post. Let's say 'media ambush' lol.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    John Boehner, of the glassy-eyed Boenhers says there is no GOP; there's a Trump Party.
    https://www.axios.com/john-boehner-no-republican-party-trump-party-8c840a45-a526-410d-9d7a-d93d11ae99e4.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100

    I've been feeling that way for a while now.  Trump is going to go down as one of the most important people in US history...however this all plays out.
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  • tbergs
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    OnWis97 said:
    John Boehner, of the glassy-eyed Boenhers says there is no GOP; there's a Trump Party.
    https://www.axios.com/john-boehner-no-republican-party-trump-party-8c840a45-a526-410d-9d7a-d93d11ae99e4.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100

    I've been feeling that way for a while now.  Trump is going to go down as one of the most important people in US history...however this all plays out.
    I saw this article and also noticed Boehner made these remarks.
    • Trump is "most unusual person we've elected" as president, Boehner said.
    • Trump won the election fairly, Boehner said.
    • If all the "noise" surrounding the president is taken away, his policies are "by and large" good things from a Republican standpoint.
    • On the state of politics: "It's too divided. The left and the right are gnawing at each other" and the press is "throwing gasoline on it."
    • On foreign affairs: Boehner said foreign countries are "thrilled the U.S. is leading" again and that Trump is "doing the right thing" on foreign policy.
    • On a potential trade war: Boehner said he doesn't believe Trump is trying to start a trade war, but wants to get people to the negotiating table.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • oftenreading
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    tbergs said:
    OnWis97 said:
    John Boehner, of the glassy-eyed Boenhers says there is no GOP; there's a Trump Party.
    https://www.axios.com/john-boehner-no-republican-party-trump-party-8c840a45-a526-410d-9d7a-d93d11ae99e4.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100

    I've been feeling that way for a while now.  Trump is going to go down as one of the most important people in US history...however this all plays out.
    I saw this article and also noticed Boehner made these remarks.
    • Trump is "most unusual person we've elected" as president, Boehner said.
    • Trump won the election fairly, Boehner said.
    • If all the "noise" surrounding the president is taken away, his policies are "by and large" good things from a Republican standpoint.
    • On the state of politics: "It's too divided. The left and the right are gnawing at each other" and the press is "throwing gasoline on it."
    • On foreign affairs: Boehner said foreign countries are "thrilled the U.S. is leading" again and that Trump is "doing the right thing" on foreign policy.
    • On a potential trade war: Boehner said he doesn't believe Trump is trying to start a trade war, but wants to get people to the negotiating table.

    Huh.  I don't get the sense that other countries are "thrilled" by how the US is "leading" these days.
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  • Go Beavers
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    OnWis97 said:
    John Boehner, of the glassy-eyed Boenhers says there is no GOP; there's a Trump Party.
    https://www.axios.com/john-boehner-no-republican-party-trump-party-8c840a45-a526-410d-9d7a-d93d11ae99e4.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100

    I've been feeling that way for a while now.  Trump is going to go down as one of the most important people in US history...however this all plays out.
    He’ll go down as the historical marker of the dying segment of the population that represents our past racism and xenophobia. 
  • mrussel1
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    Go Beavers said:
    OnWis97 said:
    John Boehner, of the glassy-eyed Boenhers says there is no GOP; there's a Trump Party.
    https://www.axios.com/john-boehner-no-republican-party-trump-party-8c840a45-a526-410d-9d7a-d93d11ae99e4.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100

    I've been feeling that way for a while now.  Trump is going to go down as one of the most important people in US history...however this all plays out.
    He’ll go down as the historical marker of the dying segment of the population that represents our past racism and xenophobia. 
    The failure of the baby boomers is really astounding.  BrianLux aside of course...
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Something I've always wondered ... Is there a way that pollster were able to determine how many people who voted for Trump that don't normally vote? 
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  • cincybearcat
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    Meltdown99 said:
    Something I've always wondered ... Is there a way that pollster were able to determine how many people who voted for Trump that don't normally vote? 
    https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls/national/president

    One of the exit polls was first time voters. The majority of those voted for Clinton. Now that’s not exactly what your asking but it’s what I could find fast :)
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  • mrussel1
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    Meltdown99 said:
    Something I've always wondered ... Is there a way that pollster were able to determine how many people who voted for Trump that don't normally vote? 
    There will be research papers and books written about this.  Pollsters classify people into registered and likely voters.  At the state level, they missed huge swaths of voters that they did not consider likely, but evidently voted.  The polls were accurate at the national level, it's the state where things went wrong with the polling.  
  • Go Beavers
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    mrussel1 said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Something I've always wondered ... Is there a way that pollster were able to determine how many people who voted for Trump that don't normally vote? 
    There will be research papers and books written about this.  Pollsters classify people into registered and likely voters.  At the state level, they missed huge swaths of voters that they did not consider likely, but evidently voted.  The polls were accurate at the national level, it's the state where things went wrong with the polling.  
    And the people reporting they were undecided was higher than normal, which I think threw up a red flag for Nate Silver, if I remember right. 
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,681
    tbergs said:
    OnWis97 said:
    John Boehner, of the glassy-eyed Boenhers says there is no GOP; there's a Trump Party.
    https://www.axios.com/john-boehner-no-republican-party-trump-party-8c840a45-a526-410d-9d7a-d93d11ae99e4.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100

    I've been feeling that way for a while now.  Trump is going to go down as one of the most important people in US history...however this all plays out.
    I saw this article and also noticed Boehner made these remarks.
    • Trump is "most unusual person we've elected" as president, Boehner said.
    • Trump won the election fairly, Boehner said.
    • If all the "noise" surrounding the president is taken away, his policies are "by and large" good things from a Republican standpoint.
    • On the state of politics: "It's too divided. The left and the right are gnawing at each other" and the press is "throwing gasoline on it."
    • On foreign affairs: Boehner said foreign countries are "thrilled the U.S. is leading" again and that Trump is "doing the right thing" on foreign policy.
    • On a potential trade war: Boehner said he doesn't believe Trump is trying to start a trade war, but wants to get people to the negotiating table.
    Lol. Some of these ring true. Yes, Trump's unusual. Yes, if all the "noise" is taken away, his policies are largely good from a Republican point of (which is not a compliment as far as I'm concerned!), but the "noise" is a BIG deal - it has a direct impact on international relations and on everyone in America. Obviously yes, US politics are too divided and the right and left are gnawing at each other and yes, the media is fueling it, although i'm not sure what other option the media has, considering. HAHAHAHA about other countries being thrilled and about the US leading again and that Trump is doing any of the rights things. The exact opposite things are true - that comment made him a bald faced liar. And HAHAHAHA about Trump not trying to start a trade war. He has already started a trade war, and is badly damaging negotiations, which he's never been in in good faith in the first place.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,681
    edited June 2018
    mrussel1 said:
    Go Beavers said:
    OnWis97 said:
    John Boehner, of the glassy-eyed Boenhers says there is no GOP; there's a Trump Party.
    https://www.axios.com/john-boehner-no-republican-party-trump-party-8c840a45-a526-410d-9d7a-d93d11ae99e4.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100

    I've been feeling that way for a while now.  Trump is going to go down as one of the most important people in US history...however this all plays out.
    He’ll go down as the historical marker of the dying segment of the population that represents our past racism and xenophobia. 
    The failure of the baby boomers is really astounding.  BrianLux aside of course...
    Agreed. The baby boomers as a whole group and as a political force have wound up a disaster for future generations in many ways (always taking into account individual exceptions).
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    I look forward to the Cambridge Analytica, russian troll bots and Team Trump Treason’s campaign analysis by Team Mueller. $1,000,000 a day buys you something. Maybe 88,000 votes in three swing states?
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    edited June 2018
    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/grieving-mother-after-meeting-trump-it-was-talking-toddler/amp

    Grieving mother after meeting Trump: 'It was like talking to a toddler'


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  • mrussel1
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    "Empathy gap".. that's a generous way of putting it. 
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    mrussel1 said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Something I've always wondered ... Is there a way that pollster were able to determine how many people who voted for Trump that don't normally vote? 
    There will be research papers and books written about this.  Pollsters classify people into registered and likely voters.  At the state level, they missed huge swaths of voters that they did not consider likely, but evidently voted.  The polls were accurate at the national level, it's the state where things went wrong with the polling.  
    I was just curious if the people who didn't vote decided to vote for Trump because they saw him as the anti-politician...

    Something definitely went wrong...



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  • mrussel1
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    Meltdown99 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Something I've always wondered ... Is there a way that pollster were able to determine how many people who voted for Trump that don't normally vote? 
    There will be research papers and books written about this.  Pollsters classify people into registered and likely voters.  At the state level, they missed huge swaths of voters that they did not consider likely, but evidently voted.  The polls were accurate at the national level, it's the state where things went wrong with the polling.  
    I was just curious if the people who didn't vote decided to vote for Trump because they saw him as the anti-politician...

    Something definitely went wrong...



    I don't know if it's anti-politician, but he certainly did a good job of stoking white fear among the older crowd.  

    Something went wrong and continues to go wrong every day.  
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