Options

Donald Trump

19389399419439441969

Comments

  • Options
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    If you object to the US leaving Syria, feel free to volunteer with one of the many warring factions.  It should no longer be acceptable for the US or Canada to send young people to fight in foreign wars.  The middle east is a lost cause...
    There are 2k troops there.  This isn't Vietnam. 
    I know its not Viet Nam.  I do not care if there is 1 soldier there.  Bring them home.  And feel free to join any warring faction in the region you want.  I feel the same about our soldiers being shipped off to Ukraine or anywhere else in the world.  
    These aren't drafted soldiers.  This is the career they chose.  It's not the same argument as in past wars.  

    There's some truth to this post.

    Soldiers doing soldierly things isn't the crux of the issue. Whether or not the US (or any foreign country) should be intervening is the heart of the debate.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Options
    “Remember the Caravans?” Trump wrote on Twitter. “Well, they didn’t get through and none are forming or on their way. Border is tight. Fake News silent!”

    If the border is so tight... then why is a wall necessary? It seems like things are well under control.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Options
    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,087
    “Remember the Caravans?” Trump wrote on Twitter. “Well, they didn’t get through and none are forming or on their way. Border is tight. Fake News silent!”

    If the border is so tight... then why is a wall necessary? It seems like things are well under control.
    he's such an idiot. 
    Flight Risk out NOW!

    www.headstonesband.com




  • Options
    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,456
    “Remember the Caravans?” Trump wrote on Twitter. “Well, they didn’t get through and none are forming or on their way. Border is tight. Fake News silent!”

    If the border is so tight... then why is a wall necessary? It seems like things are well under control.
    he's such an idiot. 
    He regularly contradicts himself and then contradicts his contradiction on a daily basis. It's tough to keep up with his idiocy. 
    chinese-happy.jpg
  • Options
    benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,002
    “Remember the Caravans?” Trump wrote on Twitter. “Well, they didn’t get through and none are forming or on their way. Border is tight. Fake News silent!”

    If the border is so tight... then why is a wall necessary? It seems like things are well under control.
    he's such an idiot. 
    I don’t think he’s an idiot if people keep listening to his garbage. There are other idiots responsible for that.
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

    EV
    Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
  • Options
    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,801
    benjs said:
    “Remember the Caravans?” Trump wrote on Twitter. “Well, they didn’t get through and none are forming or on their way. Border is tight. Fake News silent!”

    If the border is so tight... then why is a wall necessary? It seems like things are well under control.
    he's such an idiot. 
    I don’t think he’s an idiot if people keep listening to his garbage. There are other idiots responsible for that.
    Right, exactly.  The Trump supporters are infinitely worse than Trump. 
  • Options
    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,801
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    If you object to the US leaving Syria, feel free to volunteer with one of the many warring factions.  It should no longer be acceptable for the US or Canada to send young people to fight in foreign wars.  The middle east is a lost cause...
    There are 2k troops there.  This isn't Vietnam. 
    I know its not Viet Nam.  I do not care if there is 1 soldier there.  Bring them home.  And feel free to join any warring faction in the region you want.  I feel the same about our soldiers being shipped off to Ukraine or anywhere else in the world.  
    These aren't drafted soldiers.  This is the career they chose.  It's not the same argument as in past wars.  

    There's some truth to this post.

    Soldiers doing soldierly things isn't the crux of the issue. Whether or not the US (or any foreign country) should be intervening is the heart of the debate.
    Yes, and considering the slaughter of the Syrian people, the risk ISIS posed to us and to the Kurds, I'm okay with 2k soldiers being deployed there, but not indefinitely.  
  • Options
    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,839
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    If you object to the US leaving Syria, feel free to volunteer with one of the many warring factions.  It should no longer be acceptable for the US or Canada to send young people to fight in foreign wars.  The middle east is a lost cause...
    There are 2k troops there.  This isn't Vietnam. 
    I know its not Viet Nam.  I do not care if there is 1 soldier there.  Bring them home.  And feel free to join any warring faction in the region you want.  I feel the same about our soldiers being shipped off to Ukraine or anywhere else in the world.  
    These aren't drafted soldiers.  This is the career they chose.  It's not the same argument as in past wars.  
    That reminds me of W's defenders when he was sending soliders all over the Middle East 15 years ago.  Just because they are volunteers doesn't mean we should use them cavalierly.  
    1995 Milwaukee     1998 Alpine, Alpine     2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston     2004 Boston, Boston     2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty)     2011 Alpine, Alpine     
    2013 Wrigley     2014 St. Paul     2016 Fenway, Fenway, Wrigley, Wrigley     2018 Missoula, Wrigley, Wrigley     2021 Asbury Park     2022 St Louis     2023 Austin, Austin
  • Options
    dignindignin Posts: 9,304
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    If you object to the US leaving Syria, feel free to volunteer with one of the many warring factions.  It should no longer be acceptable for the US or Canada to send young people to fight in foreign wars.  The middle east is a lost cause...
    There are 2k troops there.  This isn't Vietnam. 
    I know its not Viet Nam.  I do not care if there is 1 soldier there.  Bring them home.  And feel free to join any warring faction in the region you want.  I feel the same about our soldiers being shipped off to Ukraine or anywhere else in the world.  
    These aren't drafted soldiers.  This is the career they chose.  It's not the same argument as in past wars.  
    That reminds me of W's defenders when he was sending soliders all over the Middle East 15 years ago.  Just because they are volunteers doesn't mean we should use them cavalierly.  
    You think they are being used irresponsibly?
  • Options
    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,801
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    If you object to the US leaving Syria, feel free to volunteer with one of the many warring factions.  It should no longer be acceptable for the US or Canada to send young people to fight in foreign wars.  The middle east is a lost cause...
    There are 2k troops there.  This isn't Vietnam. 
    I know its not Viet Nam.  I do not care if there is 1 soldier there.  Bring them home.  And feel free to join any warring faction in the region you want.  I feel the same about our soldiers being shipped off to Ukraine or anywhere else in the world.  
    These aren't drafted soldiers.  This is the career they chose.  It's not the same argument as in past wars.  
    That reminds me of W's defenders when he was sending soliders all over the Middle East 15 years ago.  Just because they are volunteers doesn't mean we should use them cavalierly.  
    Cavalierly is the key...  That's not what is happening here.  They actually have a purpose, not one made up by neocons.  Second, it's not the same because during Iraq, there were plenty of guard called up to support the effort and they were in the forward areas.  Third, the US has lost 3 lives in Syria.  I'm not diminishing the value of three lives, but it's not an apt comparison to Iraq.  
  • Options
    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,839
    dignin said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    If you object to the US leaving Syria, feel free to volunteer with one of the many warring factions.  It should no longer be acceptable for the US or Canada to send young people to fight in foreign wars.  The middle east is a lost cause...
    There are 2k troops there.  This isn't Vietnam. 
    I know its not Viet Nam.  I do not care if there is 1 soldier there.  Bring them home.  And feel free to join any warring faction in the region you want.  I feel the same about our soldiers being shipped off to Ukraine or anywhere else in the world.  
    These aren't drafted soldiers.  This is the career they chose.  It's not the same argument as in past wars.  
    That reminds me of W's defenders when he was sending soliders all over the Middle East 15 years ago.  Just because they are volunteers doesn't mean we should use them cavalierly.  
    You think they are being used irresponsibly?
    You know, I don't entirely know.  And my comment was actually meant to go right at the "it's a volunteer military" narrative than anything.  I have just never felt comfortable with that arguement because I believe its logical conclusion is to promote using them cavalierly.
    1995 Milwaukee     1998 Alpine, Alpine     2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston     2004 Boston, Boston     2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty)     2011 Alpine, Alpine     
    2013 Wrigley     2014 St. Paul     2016 Fenway, Fenway, Wrigley, Wrigley     2018 Missoula, Wrigley, Wrigley     2021 Asbury Park     2022 St Louis     2023 Austin, Austin
  • Options
    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,839
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    If you object to the US leaving Syria, feel free to volunteer with one of the many warring factions.  It should no longer be acceptable for the US or Canada to send young people to fight in foreign wars.  The middle east is a lost cause...
    There are 2k troops there.  This isn't Vietnam. 
    I know its not Viet Nam.  I do not care if there is 1 soldier there.  Bring them home.  And feel free to join any warring faction in the region you want.  I feel the same about our soldiers being shipped off to Ukraine or anywhere else in the world.  
    These aren't drafted soldiers.  This is the career they chose.  It's not the same argument as in past wars.  
    That reminds me of W's defenders when he was sending soliders all over the Middle East 15 years ago.  Just because they are volunteers doesn't mean we should use them cavalierly.  
    Cavalierly is the key...  That's not what is happening here.  They actually have a purpose, not one made up by neocons.  Second, it's not the same because during Iraq, there were plenty of guard called up to support the effort and they were in the forward areas.  Third, the US has lost 3 lives in Syria.  I'm not diminishing the value of three lives, but it's not an apt comparison to Iraq.  
    You said "These aren't drafted soldiers.  This is the career they chose.  It's not the same argument as in past wars."  We haven't had a draft since Viet Nam.  So I'd interpret it as a defense of W's exploits.
    1995 Milwaukee     1998 Alpine, Alpine     2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston     2004 Boston, Boston     2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty)     2011 Alpine, Alpine     
    2013 Wrigley     2014 St. Paul     2016 Fenway, Fenway, Wrigley, Wrigley     2018 Missoula, Wrigley, Wrigley     2021 Asbury Park     2022 St Louis     2023 Austin, Austin
  • Options
    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,801
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    If you object to the US leaving Syria, feel free to volunteer with one of the many warring factions.  It should no longer be acceptable for the US or Canada to send young people to fight in foreign wars.  The middle east is a lost cause...
    There are 2k troops there.  This isn't Vietnam. 
    I know its not Viet Nam.  I do not care if there is 1 soldier there.  Bring them home.  And feel free to join any warring faction in the region you want.  I feel the same about our soldiers being shipped off to Ukraine or anywhere else in the world.  
    These aren't drafted soldiers.  This is the career they chose.  It's not the same argument as in past wars.  
    That reminds me of W's defenders when he was sending soliders all over the Middle East 15 years ago.  Just because they are volunteers doesn't mean we should use them cavalierly.  
    Cavalierly is the key...  That's not what is happening here.  They actually have a purpose, not one made up by neocons.  Second, it's not the same because during Iraq, there were plenty of guard called up to support the effort and they were in the forward areas.  Third, the US has lost 3 lives in Syria.  I'm not diminishing the value of three lives, but it's not an apt comparison to Iraq.  
    You said "These aren't drafted soldiers.  This is the career they chose.  It's not the same argument as in past wars."  We haven't had a draft since Viet Nam.  So I'd interpret it as a defense of W's exploits.
    Not really.  Guard is different.  I don't know for sure, but I'm not aware of another war where we called up national guard to fight in a forward area on foreign soil.   If I'm wrong, then I'll retract the previous statement. 
  • Options
    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,590
    benjs said:
    “Remember the Caravans?” Trump wrote on Twitter. “Well, they didn’t get through and none are forming or on their way. Border is tight. Fake News silent!”

    If the border is so tight... then why is a wall necessary? It seems like things are well under control.
    he's such an idiot. 
    I don’t think he’s an idiot if people keep listening to his garbage. There are other idiots responsible for that.
    Exactly!!

    I often  ask....who's  the bigger idiot?
    The jackass who spews the idiocy?
    Or the ignorant jackasses who believe  it?
  • Options
    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,025
    Holy shit bro
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • Options
    dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,827
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Stock market down another 400+ points. How's that tax cut working out for you? Merry Christmas, suckers.
    I’m young, the way it works out for me is that I get stocks on sale now :)
    Not so well for his overly white, old base in retirement or approaching it. More brilliant brilliance in all its brilliancy. The Syrian pullout, the wall funding demand, his attacks on Lindsey and leaving Corker out in the cold? He's ensuring there will be a conviction in the senate. Its hilarious watching a rat lash out and those still defending him. Won't be long until its just Team Trump Treason and Ghouliani. Any over/under on the number of days until flames are spotted in the third floor windows of the White House? SO MUCH WINNING!
    Hopefully old people (of all races) have their eggs in more conservative baskets regarding the stock market.
    Not sure I have enough bags of popcorn for when it all finally goes down.  May even have to resubscribe to cable! 
    I referred to race because it is an overly white and aged populace that make up his base. Also, more disproportionately likely to be affected by a government shutdown. 50% of Americans aren't in the stock market so maybe his base won't even notice nor care? You might want to bag a few deers, gooses, ducks and wild bores and hunker down in your bunker when it all finally goes down.
    Eventually, the shorts will cover (some already have), probably over a period of two to three days, causing a rally (of sorts). But I don't think it will be enough to make up the losses. That has to come organically. 

    My best guess is that this sort-covering rally will come before the end of the year. It won't be a Santa Claus-type rally, but the arrow will be green for a few days before more volatility ensues.
    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • Options
    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,087
    trump tweets the democrats now own the shutdown. 

    schumer tweets back "You own the shutdown—your own words, @realDonaldTrump. The Senate UNANIMOUSLY passed a bipartisan solution to avoid a shutdown. Then you threw another temper tantrum and convinced the House to ignore that compromise"

    HAHAHA
    Flight Risk out NOW!

    www.headstonesband.com




  • Options
    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,318
    Thank you John Roberts. Enough said.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Options
    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,801
    tbergs said:
    Thank you John Roberts. Enough said.
    We will hear the anger on the right for many years to come. 
  • Options
    Saw Chuck Schumer on the Swedish news today. My mom was impressed I knew who he was.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Options
    tbergs said:
    Thank you John Roberts. Enough said.

    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

    Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.

    Brilliantati©
  • Options
    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,839
    tbergs said:
    Thank you John Roberts. Enough said.
    Roberts was appointed in a different era.  From now on, it's all party loyalists to make sure nothing like this happens again.  Go Red!
    1995 Milwaukee     1998 Alpine, Alpine     2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston     2004 Boston, Boston     2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty)     2011 Alpine, Alpine     
    2013 Wrigley     2014 St. Paul     2016 Fenway, Fenway, Wrigley, Wrigley     2018 Missoula, Wrigley, Wrigley     2021 Asbury Park     2022 St Louis     2023 Austin, Austin
  • Options
    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,844
    Saw Chuck Schumer on the Swedish news today. My mom was impressed I knew who he was.
    You see? This isn’t all wasted time ;) 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • Options
    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,801
    This is by far the worst week for any president in a very long time.  Each week gets worse as the walls close in.
  • Options
    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,037
    mrussel1 said:
    This is by far the worst week for any president in a very long time.  Each week gets worse as the walls close in.
    Agreed. I am on the fence about Syria but I like the reduction in force in Afghanistan.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Options
    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,448
    CM189191 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    If you object to the US leaving Syria, feel free to volunteer with one of the many warring factions.  It should no longer be acceptable for the US or Canada to send young people to fight in foreign wars.  The middle east is a lost cause...
    There are 2k troops there.  This isn't Vietnam. 
    I know its not Viet Nam.  I do not care if there is 1 soldier there.  Bring them home.  And feel free to join any warring faction in the region you want.  I feel the same about our soldiers being shipped off to Ukraine or anywhere else in the world.  
    right we need out troops here, in ferguson, chicago and along the border...amiright?


    Have I ever suggested the troops be deployed in the streets...I am suggesting those parts of the world can fend for themselves...
    Fuck the Baffoon 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Options
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    This is by far the worst week for any president in a very long time.  Each week gets worse as the walls close in.
    Agreed. I am on the fence about Syria but I like the reduction in force in Afghanistan.  
    Do you (or anyone on here) even know enough about the situation to have an opinion about reducing the force in Afghanistan or not?

    How well-versed are people about the present situation in Afghanistan...
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Options
    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,448
    Man what a disgusting human and all his supporters are no better , go ahead take the country down you piece of shit ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Options
    stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,359
    Stock market closed the lowest in a decade.
    Is America great again?
  • Options
    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,448
    Stock market closed the lowest in a decade.
    Is America great again?
    America is the new Russia 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
This discussion has been closed.