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    MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,612
    Tester is winning
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    Who needs college?  Easy way for young people to get into debt and be shackled to a job they hate....Free market principles need to decrease the price and make higher-education more affordable. Oh yeah let’s legalize weed....duh

    I like what you say about the RHCP.

    That is all.
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    And if the Mueller issue does NOT lead to impeachment, i'm afraid 2020 may be a lock.

    Democrats somehow let this guy become the "America First" candidate that is also "protecting the border" and therefore is protecting the country, meanwhile the democrats seem more eager to protect trans bathroom use people..... want a POTUS that protects them, protects the country, and puts America first. Elections really arent that complicated. Dems will fuck this up, I'm convinced of it. 
    I believe you are misreading last night's results.  While FL is depressing, by and large everythign else was positive.  We learned:
    1. Democratic votes substantially outpaced Republican
    2. Midwest states appear to have flipped at some level back to blue, judging by the governorship changes in WI and MI.  Scott Walker losing was huge.  He was elected twice and survived a recall.
    3. Women have heavily come over to Democrats
    4. Aggressive HOR forecasts were in the 30 to 35 range pick up.  I think we are looking at 33/34.  That's pretty damn good.
    5. The GOP is becoming an increasingly white, older and rural party.  Yet the country is becoming more urban, younger and diverse.  Demographics are destiny.  It's not overnight, but it's happening.  

    The Senate map in 2020 is flipped.  Republicans have to defend far more seats, many of them in blue states.  
    Yeah.

    The republicans are hemorrhaging votes from women, suburbanites, independents and minorities. Basing your long term success on uneducated white males is a losing strategy for them....shouldn't this be obvious to everyone looking at this objectively?
    And yet 2016 still happened and the GOP still controls the Senate and Governors... this was a normal midterm pendulum swing, not a blue wave
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    Same shit i heard in the W & Obama years... young, women, demographics, the old white party is dead in the water... yet here we are 


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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007

    What's that on Trumpy's shoe?  He is so screwed, and he has NO IDEA.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    That Georgia election?   SHADY.
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    Tiki said:
    That Georgia election?   SHADY.
    Of course it was.
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    eddieceddiec Posts: 3,838
    my2hands said:
    Same shit i heard in the W & Obama years... young, women, demographics, the old white party is dead in the water... yet here we are
    It still holds true.
    The baby boomers are aging but still a huge voting force.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    someone hit the Wikipedia pretty hard this morning.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    like out of a BONG.  what a dipshit
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Maxine Waters clap clap clap-clap-clap
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    are you kidding me?
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    didn't want the embrace.  LOSERS
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    he's wandering now...They got nothing.  ZERO

    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
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    Tiki said:
    he's wandering now...They got nothing.  ZERO

    What in God's name are you rambling about???
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    YO

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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    Tiki said:
    Maxine Waters clap clap clap-clap-clap
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    Waters has the clap? Who knew?
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,678
    I think he's watching Trump presser, God help him.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    it's ridiculous

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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,836
    edited November 2018
    It's got to be killing him and his advisors....Bannon, little eichmann, gorka, hannity, David Duke, Richard spencer.....that so many women, muslims, and native Americans won seats in the house.
    Every action has an equal and opposite reaction...elect 1st african american president? Get a racist president to follow.  Elect a racist president? Elect record numbers of women, minorities and openly gay candidates.
    The only people in this country who care about a person’s sexual preference, race, gender or other insignificance is the dems.  People are people to me, i’m still unsure of how the fact that a guy who loves a guy should make me feel a certain way about voting, or because someone is Muslim I should care more or less.

    ya’ll love to make it a race or gender issue.  

    By the way, as far as the whole immigration issue goes, I feel like everyone always misses the point.  There’s a million people a year that enter our country legally that you never hear a peep about.  People should be able to come here, that’s human and important.  What we conservatives care about is ILLEGAL immigration- we care about laws.

    anywho, I thought the midterms went as I thought they would.  Sure I hoped repubs would hold onto the house but I doubted it.  I knew Cruz would win Texas, I assumed tester would lose Montana (is that confirmed yet?) and I figured Florida would be red.  It’ll be interesting to see investigations step up a ton with mueller and the dems unfocused on a platform or politics and entirely focused on dethroning trump.  My guess is the house will not be focused on legislation but rather stopping trump anyway they can.
    this is laughable. 

    first, it's sexual ORIENTATION. 
    second, it is only made an "issue" so we can reach a stage where people don't have to hide who they are for fear of right wing hooliganism. and it is a big deal, in terms of showing progress, when people you metioned are elected into positions of power. you don't think Obama's election was significant? or should people not have mentioned his skin colour. Oh, right, I forgot, it was DONALD TRUMP who made his skin colour an issue. 
    third, we all get it about immigration. literally no one is for open borders. that's a republican talking point that you have been fooled into believing so you'll vote for them out of fear. and it works, apparently. 
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,986
    my god what a shitshow....I still can't believe anyone votes for this idiot
    He reminds me of my high school Spanish teacher, always yelling at people to sit down then doing nothing when they don't.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    He legit doesn't know how shit works.
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Tiki said:
    He legit doesn't know how shit works.
    He legit knows how to win an election
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,678
    my2hands said:
    Tiki said:
    He legit doesn't know how shit works.
    He legit knows how to win an election
    That's not governing.  How about we respect the office and the institutions and not just the campaigning.  
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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Tiki said:
    he's wandering now...They got nothing.  ZERO

    A first I thought you meant he just wandered off the stage.  LOL.  
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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    my2hands said:
    Tiki said:
    He legit doesn't know how shit works.
    He legit knows how to win an election
    Yup.  Let's see if my theory is true.  I don't believe he wanted the job.  Let's see if he can say even crazier shit in 2020.  
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,829
    my2hands said:
    Tiki said:
    He legit doesn't know how shit works.
    He legit knows how to win an election
    Yup.  Let's see if my theory is true.  I don't believe he wanted the job.  Let's see if he can say even crazier shit in 2020.  
    There were times I felt like he was trying to throw the election.    And I am sure he'd rather be back home sleeping on a cash-stuffed mattress in a gold box-spring.  But he also probably wants to win because his ego can't take the idea of being a "one-term-president."
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    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    Tiki said:
    He legit doesn't know how shit works.
    He legit knows how to win an election
    That's not governing.  How about we respect the office and the institutions and not just the campaigning.  
    He’s not interested in governing and never was. He just wants to be the most famous and important person in the world...which unfortunately he is. Winning elections or “winning” events like the Kavanaugh confirmation is all he cares about. 
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    Tiki said:
    He legit doesn't know how shit works.
    He legit knows how to win an election
    That's not governing.  How about we respect the office and the institutions and not just the campaigning.  
    Talk to him,not me lol
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,608
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    Tiki said:
    He legit doesn't know how shit works.
    He legit knows how to win an election
    That's not governing.  How about we respect the office and the institutions and not just the campaigning.  
    He’s not interested in governing and never was. He just wants to be the most famous and important person in the world...which unfortunately he is. Winning elections or “winning” events like the Kavanaugh confirmation is all he cares about. 
    100% true. What people have to worry most about is the fact that so many Americans are perfectly okay with choosing a leader like that.
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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    And if the Mueller issue does NOT lead to impeachment, i'm afraid 2020 may be a lock.

    Democrats somehow let this guy become the "America First" candidate that is also "protecting the border" and therefore is protecting the country, meanwhile the democrats seem more eager to protect trans bathroom use people..... want a POTUS that protects them, protects the country, and puts America first. Elections really arent that complicated. Dems will fuck this up, I'm convinced of it. 
    I believe you are misreading last night's results.  While FL is depressing, by and large everythign else was positive.  We learned:
    1. Democratic votes substantially outpaced Republican
    2. Midwest states appear to have flipped at some level back to blue, judging by the governorship changes in WI and MI.  Scott Walker losing was huge.  He was elected twice and survived a recall.
    3. Women have heavily come over to Democrats
    4. Aggressive HOR forecasts were in the 30 to 35 range pick up.  I think we are looking at 33/34.  That's pretty damn good.
    5. The GOP is becoming an increasingly white, older and rural party.  Yet the country is becoming more urban, younger and diverse.  Demographics are destiny.  It's not overnight, but it's happening.  

    The Senate map in 2020 is flipped.  Republicans have to defend far more seats, many of them in blue states.  
    1) Not everywhere...certainly not Florida and certainly not Ohio to name a couple.
    2) Scott Walker losing is big "ish". Nobody should really run a third time. It doesn't matter how successful you are...everyone has an expiry date. That being said this will be the most important state in 2020.
    3) Not all women and not necessarily in the states where it matters
    4) 33/34 is historical average for a president in first term which is a subpar performance based on the "Trump repudiation" the AMT was expecting...this repudiation didn't happen and conservatives surprisingly held strong in some seats and flipped a few other.
    5) The urban/rural split is absolutely real but as always this is an electoral college game and not a popular vote game. 2020 election will completely boil down to Wisconsin and possibly Michigan...especially if John James is on the ballot again. No point for anybody to even campaign anywhere else. Progressive democrats lost last night while moderate dems won...the dems will need a candidate that can push turnout while not veering too far to the left...who that is remains to be seen.

    The Senate map in 2020 is flipped but the GOP likely built the buffer they need to retain control. Doug Jones told me so.
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