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  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,249
    More MOAB please
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,910
    Sanctions are stupid. I never like sanctions. I think they are counterproductive in the long run.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    PJ_Soul said:
    Sanctions are stupid. I never like sanctions. I think they are counterproductive in the long run.
    Tell that to black South Africa.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    JimmyV said:
    Trump
    Russia
    Trump
    Russia

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-puts-the-brake-on-new-russian-sanctions-reversing-haleys-announcement/2018/04/16/ac3ad4f8-417f-11e8-8569-26fda6b404c7_story.html?utm_term=.0a33845aeca7

    Oh yea, there’s a PTape. “Morally unfit and susceptible to black mail by Russia.”
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,910
    edited April 2018
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Sanctions are stupid. I never like sanctions. I think they are counterproductive in the long run.
    Tell that to black South Africa.
    I'm talking current day, but also, boiling that down to the sanctions isn't really accurate. That situation has no comparison to Syria or Russia or North Korea or anywhere else.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,101
    my2hands said:
    not a fan of the Comey book tour interview last night... why be petty and talk about his appearance? came off as bush-league to me
    I agree he should of just stayed on message that this president is a wanna be mobster but if you writte a book it's almost impossible to not do a tour promoting it ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,984
    edited April 2018
    And the plot thickens.
    Revealed in court today....Sean Hannity, client of Michael Cohen.

    Post edited by Kat on
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    PJ_Soul said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Sanctions are stupid. I never like sanctions. I think they are counterproductive in the long run.
    Tell that to black South Africa.
    I'm talking current day, but also, boiling that down to the sanctions isn't really accurate. That situation has no comparison to Syria or Russia or North Korea or anywhere else.
    I didn’t say it boiled it down to sanctions but rather disputed your claim that sanctions are “stupid” or that they’re “counterproductive.” I’d also argue that they should be given a go before the alternative.
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  • ikiT
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    Kat said:
    And the plot thickens.
    Revealed in court today....Sean Hannity, client of Michael Cohen.

    HILARIOUS
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  • my2hands
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    josevolution said:
    my2hands said:
    not a fan of the Comey book tour interview last night... why be petty and talk about his appearance? came off as bush-league to me
    I agree he should of just stayed on message that this president is a wanna be mobster but if you writte a book it's almost impossible to not do a tour promoting it ...
    I don't mind promoting his book... my problem is some of his content, like talking shit about his appearance, was just to try and sell more copies... it was juvenile 
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,910
    edited April 2018

    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Sanctions are stupid. I never like sanctions. I think they are counterproductive in the long run.
    Tell that to black South Africa.
    I'm talking current day, but also, boiling that down to the sanctions isn't really accurate. That situation has no comparison to Syria or Russia or North Korea or anywhere else.
    I didn’t say it boiled it down to sanctions but rather disputed your claim that sanctions are “stupid” or that they’re “counterproductive.” I’d also argue that they should be given a go before the alternative.
    Yes, sanctions against nations in response to tyrants are very stupid and countereproductive and are not better than alternatives because they will work to make the issues worse. Sanctions validate dictators, they strengthen their position in a tyrannical government, they bolster their goals as dictators, and they tend to help rally domestic support for said dictatorial government. They lead to more suffering among the nation's citizens, further solidifying a tyrant's position.
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  • pjhawks
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    PJ_Soul said:
    pjhawks said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Judging by how few posts have been made in this thread in the past couple of days, and how many are in the Syria threads, it looks like this distraction is working pretty well, lol. Trump must be thrilled!
    i would hardly call a government using chemical weapons on their own people a distraction.  more like an evil act that needed a response.
    Er, tthe bombing of Syria is the distraction, not the use of chemical weapons by Assad. Military action is pretty well known to be used as a distraction... And it works, and you've just proven it. That doesn't mean that the action doesn't have a major impact, but that does not diminish the fact that leaders who are in trouble often use military actions to distract voters from the shit that have them in trouble.
    And HAHAHAHHAHAHA re an evil act that needed a response. As if Trump gives a flying fuck about acts of evil. The US government loves to pretend that this shit is about them caring about people, but that is never the case.
    so nothing should have been done about Syria using chemical weapons on their own people?
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    PJ_Soul said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Sanctions are stupid. I never like sanctions. I think they are counterproductive in the long run.
    Tell that to black South Africa.
    I'm talking current day, but also, boiling that down to the sanctions isn't really accurate. That situation has no comparison to Syria or Russia or North Korea or anywhere else.
    I didn’t say it boiled it down to sanctions but rather disputed your claim that sanctions are “stupid” or that they’re “counterproductive.” I’d also argue that they should be given a go before the alternative.
    Yes, sanctions against nations in response to tyrants are very stupid and countereproductive and are not better than alternatives because they will work to make the issues worse. Sanctions validate dictators, they strengthen their position in a tyrannical government, they bolster their goals as dictators, and they tend to help rally domestic support for said dictatorial government. They lead to more suffering among the nation's citizens, further solidifying a tyrant's position.
    So, do nothing and then drop bombs? Or just go straight to dropping bombs? Or just do nothing? How about sanctions against individuals within tyrannical governments? Also stupid and counterproductive?
     
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  • mrussel1
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    Tiki said:
    Kat said:
    And the plot thickens.
    Revealed in court today....Sean Hannity, client of Michael Cohen.

    HILARIOUS
    So awesome and not surprising.  
  • ikiT
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    Bombs are never the answer.
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  • tbergs
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    PJ_Soul said:
    Judging by how few posts have been made in this thread in the past couple of days, and how many are in the Syria threads, it looks like this distraction is working pretty well, lol. Trump must be thrilled!
    Honestly, intelligent people can manage multiple issues happening at the same time. It's just that he now isn't the only story and actually draws more attention to him in a different way, that some find worse and others are indifferent to. This thread is usually pretty lame anyway when it comes to content.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • ikiT
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    President Trump on Monday put the brakes on a preliminary plan to impose additional economic sanctions on Russia.

    Asked Monday morning why it had taken 24 hours for the administration to walk back Nikki Haley’s comments, one White House official said only that there had been confusion internally about what the plan was.

    WOW
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  • OnWis97
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    my2hands said:
    josevolution said:
    my2hands said:
    not a fan of the Comey book tour interview last night... why be petty and talk about his appearance? came off as bush-league to me
    I agree he should of just stayed on message that this president is a wanna be mobster but if you writte a book it's almost impossible to not do a tour promoting it ...
    I don't mind promoting his book... my problem is some of his content, like talking shit about his appearance, was just to try and sell more copies... it was juvenile 
    I watched it and for the most part Comey was very un-Trump-like; his replies were measured and not full of silly accusations and stupid insults.  I'd guess he went easy on Trump, as he was making an effort to not be alarming.  The one thing I did not like was the hair, long tie, etc.  This was in response to something like "what was your early impression of him?"  I was ready for "high-strung," narcissistic," or "paronoid."  I was really disappointed to hear "well that hair is all his, the tie is too long" (and whatever else he said).
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  • my2hands
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    OnWis97 said:
    my2hands said:
    josevolution said:
    my2hands said:
    not a fan of the Comey book tour interview last night... why be petty and talk about his appearance? came off as bush-league to me
    I agree he should of just stayed on message that this president is a wanna be mobster but if you writte a book it's almost impossible to not do a tour promoting it ...
    I don't mind promoting his book... my problem is some of his content, like talking shit about his appearance, was just to try and sell more copies... it was juvenile 
    I watched it and for the most part Comey was very un-Trump-like; his replies were measured and not full of silly accusations and stupid insults.  I'd guess he went easy on Trump, as he was making an effort to not be alarming.  The one thing I did not like was the hair, long tie, etc.  This was in response to something like "what was your early impression of him?"  I was ready for "high-strung," narcissistic," or "paronoid."  I was really disappointed to hear "well that hair is all his, the tie is too long" (and whatever else he said).

    that's what i'm talking about... my GF and I just shook or head in disappointment... we all know the dudes tie is WAY too long lol
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