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  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    why is it that Stephen Miller looks like death?
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    edited January 2018

    Haha! The rat is trying to slither back on to the Titanic. To no surprise the man has no spine or dignity.

    Bannon: I'm sorry


    Exclusive: Battered by the backlash from Michael Wolff's book, Steve Bannon is trying to make amends with the Trump family, providing a statement to Axios that expresses "regret" to President Trump and praises his son, Donald Trump Jr.

    • "Donald Trump, Jr. is both a patriot and a good man. He has been relentless in his advocacy for his father and the agenda that has helped turn our country around."
    • "My support is also unwavering for the president and his agenda — as I have shown daily in my national radio broadcasts, on the pages of Breitbart News and in speeches and appearances from Tokyo and Hong Kong to Arizona and Alabama."
    • "President Trump was the only candidate that could have taken on and defeated the Clinton apparatus. I am the only person to date to conduct a global effort to preach the message of Trump and Trumpism; and remain ready to stand in the breach for this president's efforts to make America great again."
    • "My comments about the meeting with Russian nationals came from my life experiences as a Naval officer stationed aboard a destroyer whose main mission was to hunt Soviet submarines to my time at the Pentagon during the Reagan years when our focus was the defeat of 'the evil empire' and to making films about Reagan's war against the Soviets and Hillary Clinton's involvement in selling uranium to them."
    • "My comments were aimed at Paul Manafort, a seasoned campaign professional with experience and knowledge of how the Russians operate. He should have known they are duplicitous, cunning and not our friends. To reiterate, those comments were not aimed at Don Jr."
    • "Everything I have to say about the ridiculous nature of the Russian 'collusion' investigation I said on my 60 Minutes interview. There was no collusion and the investigation is a witch hunt."
    • "I regret that my delay in responding to the inaccurate reporting regarding Don Jr has diverted attention from the president's historical accomplishments in the first year of his presidency."
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  • vaggar99 said:
    why is it that Stephen Miller looks like death?
    State’s witness?
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  • rgambs
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    BS44325 said:
    When the collusion narrative collapses those heavily invested in it fall the hardest.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/05/operation-condor-how-nsa-director-mike-rogers-saved-the-u-s-from-a-massive-constitutional-crisis/

    It is all coming to light. Watergate 2.0
    :rofl:
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,410
    rgambs said:
    BS44325 said:
    When the collusion narrative collapses those heavily invested in it fall the hardest.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/05/operation-condor-how-nsa-director-mike-rogers-saved-the-u-s-from-a-massive-constitutional-crisis/

    It is all coming to light. Watergate 2.0
    :rofl:
    Seriously. Every time he mentions this as a comparison to Watergate diminishes his credibility. I sometimes find his posts to be somewhat reasonable, but then this garbage.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • BS44325
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    tbergs said:
    rgambs said:
    BS44325 said:
    When the collusion narrative collapses those heavily invested in it fall the hardest.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/05/operation-condor-how-nsa-director-mike-rogers-saved-the-u-s-from-a-massive-constitutional-crisis/

    It is all coming to light. Watergate 2.0
    :rofl:
    Seriously. Every time he mentions this as a comparison to Watergate diminishes his credibility. I sometimes find his posts to be somewhat reasonable, but then this garbage.
    This is the story you have all been avoiding. The intelligence apparatus that you were all so concerned about when Bush was president was then used by Obama to target a political enemy. To paraphrase Peter Strzok...Trump was so awful that an insurance policy was needed. It is all coming to light and it is worse then Watergate. Hatred of Trump blinds you all to the fact that laws were broken. Domestic spying under false pretenses occurred. The garbage is piling up.


  • BS44325
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    BS44325 said:
    Embarrassing.
    Thats all you have? Really?
    Well what more do you want? You’re aimlessly ranting and raving like Trump on twitter while even Obama’s people are approving of the Trump approach. You asked about North Korea? I hope you got a clip of Tom Donilon and Mike Morrell (both from Obama admin) on Face The Nation today:

    https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/transcript-tom-donilon-and-mike-morell-on-face-the-nation-jan-7-2018/

    Key quote from Donilon
    “And by the way, we've just started really in a lot of these areas, in the banking, finance, and- and oil, and energy area, and it's having some effect. And I think we saw some of that effect with respect to Kim Jong-un on New Year's Day reaching out to the South for talks.

    I agree with the assessment that it's not likely to lead anywhere fundamentally different at this point. But nonetheless, I think an indication of the pressure.”

    Add that to what Panetta said on Iran and it’s quite clear that serious people in the previous administration recognize the positive steps Trump has taken.

    Like i said...embarrassing.

  • BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Embarrassing.
    Thats all you have? Really?
    Well what more do you want? You’re aimlessly ranting and raving like Trump on twitter while even Obama’s people are approving of the Trump approach. You asked about North Korea? I hope you got a clip of Tom Donilon and Mike Morrell (both from Obama admin) on Face The Nation today:

    https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/transcript-tom-donilon-and-mike-morell-on-face-the-nation-jan-7-2018/

    Key quote from Donilon
    “And by the way, we've just started really in a lot of these areas, in the banking, finance, and- and oil, and energy area, and it's having some effect. And I think we saw some of that effect with respect to Kim Jong-un on New Year's Day reaching out to the South for talks.

    I agree with the assessment that it's not likely to lead anywhere fundamentally different at this point. But nonetheless, I think an indication of the pressure.”

    Add that to what Panetta said on Iran and it’s quite clear that serious people in the previous administration recognize the positive steps Trump has taken.

    Like i said...embarrassing.

    You miss a key quote, “it’s not likely to lead to anything fundamentally different.” You still believe China and Russia have US interests at heart. Embarrassing.
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  • BS44325 said:
    tbergs said:
    rgambs said:
    BS44325 said:
    When the collusion narrative collapses those heavily invested in it fall the hardest.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/05/operation-condor-how-nsa-director-mike-rogers-saved-the-u-s-from-a-massive-constitutional-crisis/

    It is all coming to light. Watergate 2.0
    :rofl:
    Seriously. Every time he mentions this as a comparison to Watergate diminishes his credibility. I sometimes find his posts to be somewhat reasonable, but then this garbage.
    This is the story you have all been avoiding. The intelligence apparatus that you were all so concerned about when Bush was president was then used by Obama to target a political enemy. To paraphrase Peter Strzok...Trump was so awful that an insurance policy was needed. It is all coming to light and it is worse then Watergate. Hatred of Trump blinds you all to the fact that laws were broken. Domestic spying under false pretenses occurred. The garbage is piling up.


    Yea, sure it was. I guess you haven’t read the declassified portions of the intelligence report? Nor do you acknowledge that foreign intelligence services brought information regarding Team Trump Treason and Russia to the attention of US intelligence. Or that Papadopoulos was openly bragging about hillary’s Stolen emails in a London bar. Keep believing that neocon false narrative, Professor.
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Embarrassing.
    Thats all you have? Really?
    Well what more do you want? You’re aimlessly ranting and raving like Trump on twitter while even Obama’s people are approving of the Trump approach. You asked about North Korea? I hope you got a clip of Tom Donilon and Mike Morrell (both from Obama admin) on Face The Nation today:

    https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/transcript-tom-donilon-and-mike-morell-on-face-the-nation-jan-7-2018/

    Key quote from Donilon
    “And by the way, we've just started really in a lot of these areas, in the banking, finance, and- and oil, and energy area, and it's having some effect. And I think we saw some of that effect with respect to Kim Jong-un on New Year's Day reaching out to the South for talks.

    I agree with the assessment that it's not likely to lead anywhere fundamentally different at this point. But nonetheless, I think an indication of the pressure.”

    Add that to what Panetta said on Iran and it’s quite clear that serious people in the previous administration recognize the positive steps Trump has taken.

    Like i said...embarrassing.

    You miss a key quote, “it’s not likely to lead to anything fundamentally different.” You still believe China and Russia have US interests at heart. Embarrassing.
    Do I believe China and Russia have US interests at heart? Of course not. Never have. You are clearly the Michael Wolff of the AMT. That quote you pulled out above however is important and is why I believe the world is in a very perilous state. I believe you said I was all “doom and gloom” about this and on that you are correct. My stance has been consistent...the world is in grave danger...the status quo was not working...the Trump approach is a hail mary pass that could work but like Donilon I don’t have faith that things will change. All we can do is hope that we have someone who is willing to try. Trump is trying and on a bipartisan basis the people such as Donilon and Morell approve. Please try to follow along. The rest of the AMT is likely bored with things having to be repeated to you again and again.

  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,297
    edited January 2018
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Embarrassing.
    Thats all you have? Really?
    Well what more do you want? You’re aimlessly ranting and raving like Trump on twitter while even Obama’s people are approving of the Trump approach. You asked about North Korea? I hope you got a clip of Tom Donilon and Mike Morrell (both from Obama admin) on Face The Nation today:

    https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/transcript-tom-donilon-and-mike-morell-on-face-the-nation-jan-7-2018/

    Key quote from Donilon
    “And by the way, we've just started really in a lot of these areas, in the banking, finance, and- and oil, and energy area, and it's having some effect. And I think we saw some of that effect with respect to Kim Jong-un on New Year's Day reaching out to the South for talks.

    I agree with the assessment that it's not likely to lead anywhere fundamentally different at this point. But nonetheless, I think an indication of the pressure.”

    Add that to what Panetta said on Iran and it’s quite clear that serious people in the previous administration recognize the positive steps Trump has taken.

    Like i said...embarrassing.

    You miss a key quote, “it’s not likely to lead to anything fundamentally different.” You still believe China and Russia have US interests at heart. Embarrassing.
    Do I believe China and Russia have US interests at heart? Of course not. Never have. You are clearly the Michael Wolff of the AMT. That quote you pulled out above however is important and is why I believe the world is in a very perilous state. I believe you said I was all “doom and gloom” about this and on that you are correct. My stance has been consistent...the world is in grave danger...the status quo was not working...the Trump approach is a hail mary pass that could work but like Donilon I don’t have faith that things will change. All we can do is hope that we have someone who is willing to try. Trump is trying and on a bipartisan basis the people such as Donilon and Morell approve. Please try to follow along. The rest of the AMT is likely bored with things having to be repeated to you again and again.

    With such a negative view of the world, how do you emerge from your basement. 
    If I’m the Michael Wolff of the AMT, you Professor are certainly the Chicken Little with your years of “the sky is falling” world is in peril schtick. Get a new act, it’s become boring.
     
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,565
    edited January 2018
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Embarrassing.
    Thats all you have? Really?
    Well what more do you want? You’re aimlessly ranting and raving like Trump on twitter while even Obama’s people are approving of the Trump approach. You asked about North Korea? I hope you got a clip of Tom Donilon and Mike Morrell (both from Obama admin) on Face The Nation today:

    https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/transcript-tom-donilon-and-mike-morell-on-face-the-nation-jan-7-2018/

    Key quote from Donilon
    “And by the way, we've just started really in a lot of these areas, in the banking, finance, and- and oil, and energy area, and it's having some effect. And I think we saw some of that effect with respect to Kim Jong-un on New Year's Day reaching out to the South for talks.

    I agree with the assessment that it's not likely to lead anywhere fundamentally different at this point. But nonetheless, I think an indication of the pressure.”

    Add that to what Panetta said on Iran and it’s quite clear that serious people in the previous administration recognize the positive steps Trump has taken.

    Like i said...embarrassing.

    You miss a key quote, “it’s not likely to lead to anything fundamentally different.” You still believe China and Russia have US interests at heart. Embarrassing.
    Do I believe China and Russia have US interests at heart? Of course not. Never have. You are clearly the Michael Wolff of the AMT. That quote you pulled out above however is important and is why I believe the world is in a very perilous state. I believe you said I was all “doom and gloom” about this and on that you are correct. My stance has been consistent...the world is in grave danger...the status quo was not working...the Trump approach is a hail mary pass that could work but like Donilon I don’t have faith that things will change. All we can do is hope that we have someone who is willing to try. Trump is trying and on a bipartisan basis the people such as Donilon and Morell approve. Please try to follow along. The rest of the AMT is likely bored with things having to be repeated to you again and again.

    That’s a bigly confirmation bias waiting to happen. You concluded we’re all doomed, then when it turns out we’re not doomed, you’ll credit trump. 

  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    BS44325 said:
    tbergs said:
    rgambs said:
    BS44325 said:
    When the collusion narrative collapses those heavily invested in it fall the hardest.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/05/operation-condor-how-nsa-director-mike-rogers-saved-the-u-s-from-a-massive-constitutional-crisis/

    It is all coming to light. Watergate 2.0
    :rofl:
    Seriously. Every time he mentions this as a comparison to Watergate diminishes his credibility. I sometimes find his posts to be somewhat reasonable, but then this garbage.
    This is the story you have all been avoiding. The intelligence apparatus that you were all so concerned about when Bush was president was then used by Obama to target a political enemy. To paraphrase Peter Strzok...Trump was so awful that an insurance policy was needed. It is all coming to light and it is worse then Watergate. Hatred of Trump blinds you all to the fact that laws were broken. Domestic spying under false pretenses occurred. The garbage is piling up.


    Yea, sure it was. I guess you haven’t read the declassified portions of the intelligence report? Nor do you acknowledge that foreign intelligence services brought information regarding Team Trump Treason and Russia to the attention of US intelligence. Or that Papadopoulos was openly bragging about hillary’s Stolen emails in a London bar. Keep believing that neocon false narrative, Professor.
    Ha. You swallow up so much crap I’m surprised you don’t have cholera. What foreign intelligence service do you speak of? Christopher Steeles intelligence? Trustworthy Russian intelligence sources? An Australian overhearing Papadopoulos talk about already public info? If you heard James Clapper last week you would know that Papadopoulos was “not even on his radar” and yet we’re to believe that is the reason why this whole Russian probe began?

    https://youtu.be/Dh-47Q6zEkU

    Not to mention if Papadopoulos was the reason for the investigation then a FISA warrant would have been obtained on him and not Carter Page. It is quite obvious that the DNC funded dossier was used under false pretenses to get the warrant on Page and then was abused to spy on Trump and the transition. The panic among the principles is setting in everywhere and now that congress has access to all the FBI records, employees and Fusion GPS bank records people are trying to downplay your precious dossier and are claiming it was Papadopoulos or “foreign intelligence” sources that triggered the investigation. Your party lied to you Halifax. They lied to all of you. They saw Trump as a threat and compromised their principles to stop him. They abused the intelligence gathering process in a way you all feared the Bush administration would do. It was a crime. You can still hate Trump and recognize that what was done to him was wrong. The swamp is draining.


  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,565
    There’s reason without George P’s fat mouth to get a fisa warrant. 
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Embarrassing.
    Thats all you have? Really?
    Well what more do you want? You’re aimlessly ranting and raving like Trump on twitter while even Obama’s people are approving of the Trump approach. You asked about North Korea? I hope you got a clip of Tom Donilon and Mike Morrell (both from Obama admin) on Face The Nation today:

    https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/transcript-tom-donilon-and-mike-morell-on-face-the-nation-jan-7-2018/

    Key quote from Donilon
    “And by the way, we've just started really in a lot of these areas, in the banking, finance, and- and oil, and energy area, and it's having some effect. And I think we saw some of that effect with respect to Kim Jong-un on New Year's Day reaching out to the South for talks.

    I agree with the assessment that it's not likely to lead anywhere fundamentally different at this point. But nonetheless, I think an indication of the pressure.”

    Add that to what Panetta said on Iran and it’s quite clear that serious people in the previous administration recognize the positive steps Trump has taken.

    Like i said...embarrassing.

    You miss a key quote, “it’s not likely to lead to anything fundamentally different.” You still believe China and Russia have US interests at heart. Embarrassing.
    Do I believe China and Russia have US interests at heart? Of course not. Never have. You are clearly the Michael Wolff of the AMT. That quote you pulled out above however is important and is why I believe the world is in a very perilous state. I believe you said I was all “doom and gloom” about this and on that you are correct. My stance has been consistent...the world is in grave danger...the status quo was not working...the Trump approach is a hail mary pass that could work but like Donilon I don’t have faith that things will change. All we can do is hope that we have someone who is willing to try. Trump is trying and on a bipartisan basis the people such as Donilon and Morell approve. Please try to follow along. The rest of the AMT is likely bored with things having to be repeated to you again and again.

    That’s a bigly confirmation bias waiting to happen. You concluded we’re all doomed, then when it turns out we’re not doomed, you’ll credit trump. 

    You don’t appreciate how close the world is to the next world war. This is not a problem of Trump’s making and it is a problem that we would be confronted with regardless of who is president at the moment. 

    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/671371/China-President-Xi-Jinping-prepares-army-for-war-USA-North-Korea-WW3-Nuclear-missile-video

    You’re darn right if we somehow manage to escape this pickle I’ll credit Trump. Either way I wouldn’t bet on it.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,565
    trump is a greater threat than anyone else with nukes, including NK. But be afraid, vote conservative!
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    There’s reason without George P’s fat mouth to get a fisa warrant. 
    And you’ll find out whether that’s true soon enough. You might also find that a misrepresentation may have been made to a FISA court judge. If that’s the case.... ka. Boom.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,565
    BS44325 said:
    There’s reason without George P’s fat mouth to get a fisa warrant. 
    And you’ll find out whether that’s true soon enough. You might also find that a misrepresentation may have been made to a FISA court judge. If that’s the case.... ka. Boom.
    Or I might not, and then you’ll push the next item fed to you by right wing media in an attempt to discredit the investigation. 
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    BS44325 said:
    tbergs said:
    rgambs said:
    BS44325 said:
    When the collusion narrative collapses those heavily invested in it fall the hardest.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/05/operation-condor-how-nsa-director-mike-rogers-saved-the-u-s-from-a-massive-constitutional-crisis/

    It is all coming to light. Watergate 2.0
    :rofl:
    Seriously. Every time he mentions this as a comparison to Watergate diminishes his credibility. I sometimes find his posts to be somewhat reasonable, but then this garbage.
    This is the story you have all been avoiding. The intelligence apparatus that you were all so concerned about when Bush was president was then used by Obama to target a political enemy. To paraphrase Peter Strzok...Trump was so awful that an insurance policy was needed. It is all coming to light and it is worse then Watergate. Hatred of Trump blinds you all to the fact that laws were broken. Domestic spying under false pretenses occurred. The garbage is piling up.


    Yea, sure it was. I guess you haven’t read the declassified portions of the intelligence report? Nor do you acknowledge that foreign intelligence services brought information regarding Team Trump Treason and Russia to the attention of US intelligence. Or that Papadopoulos was openly bragging about hillary’s Stolen emails in a London bar. Keep believing that neocon false narrative, Professor.
    Ha. You swallow up so much crap I’m surprised you don’t have cholera. What foreign intelligence service do you speak of? Christopher Steeles intelligence? Trustworthy Russian intelligence sources? An Australian overhearing Papadopoulos talk about already public info? If you heard James Clapper last week you would know that Papadopoulos was “not even on his radar” and yet we’re to believe that is the reason why this whole Russian probe began?

    https://youtu.be/Dh-47Q6zEkU

    Not to mention if Papadopoulos was the reason for the investigation then a FISA warrant would have been obtained on him and not Carter Page. It is quite obvious that the DNC funded dossier was used under false pretenses to get the warrant on Page and then was abused to spy on Trump and the transition. The panic among the principles is setting in everywhere and now that congress has access to all the FBI records, employees and Fusion GPS bank records people are trying to downplay your precious dossier and are claiming it was Papadopoulos or “foreign intelligence” sources that triggered the investigation. Your party lied to you Halifax. They lied to all of you. They saw Trump as a threat and compromised their principles to stop him. They abused the intelligence gathering process in a way you all feared the Bush administration would do. It was a crime. You can still hate Trump and recognize that what was done to him was wrong. The swamp is draining.


    How many Obama Administration officials were indicted or otherwise caught up in scandal, Professor? You so want the neocon narrative of the intelligence apparatus being used against political opponents to be true that you suspend reality. You also don’t seem to grasp how FISA warrants work. The only witch hunts are Republican lead witch hunts. Team Mueller is connecting the dots and getting to the bottom of Team Trump Treason’s Russian collusion. I’ve linked the declassified intelligence report and I’m sure you can find it. Team Trump Treason was picked up well before the Dossier was even a wet dream in the repubes establishment, where it was started. It’s okay, you can live in your alternate reality. My money is on Team Mueller.
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  • rgambs
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    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    Embarrassing.
    Thats all you have? Really?
    Well what more do you want? You’re aimlessly ranting and raving like Trump on twitter while even Obama’s people are approving of the Trump approach. You asked about North Korea? I hope you got a clip of Tom Donilon and Mike Morrell (both from Obama admin) on Face The Nation today:

    https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/transcript-tom-donilon-and-mike-morell-on-face-the-nation-jan-7-2018/

    Key quote from Donilon
    “And by the way, we've just started really in a lot of these areas, in the banking, finance, and- and oil, and energy area, and it's having some effect. And I think we saw some of that effect with respect to Kim Jong-un on New Year's Day reaching out to the South for talks.

    I agree with the assessment that it's not likely to lead anywhere fundamentally different at this point. But nonetheless, I think an indication of the pressure.”

    Add that to what Panetta said on Iran and it’s quite clear that serious people in the previous administration recognize the positive steps Trump has taken.

    Like i said...embarrassing.

    You miss a key quote, “it’s not likely to lead to anything fundamentally different.” You still believe China and Russia have US interests at heart. Embarrassing.
    Do I believe China and Russia have US interests at heart? Of course not. Never have. You are clearly the Michael Wolff of the AMT. That quote you pulled out above however is important and is why I believe the world is in a very perilous state. I believe you said I was all “doom and gloom” about this and on that you are correct. My stance has been consistent...the world is in grave danger...the status quo was not working...the Trump approach is a hail mary pass that could work but like Donilon I don’t have faith that things will change. All we can do is hope that we have someone who is willing to try. Trump is trying and on a bipartisan basis the people such as Donilon and Morell approve. Please try to follow along. The rest of the AMT is likely bored with things having to be repeated to you again and again.

    That’s a bigly confirmation bias waiting to happen. You concluded we’re all doomed, then when it turns out we’re not doomed, you’ll credit trump. 

    You don’t appreciate how close the world is to the next world war. This is not a problem of Trump’s making and it is a problem that we would be confronted with regardless of who is president at the moment. 

    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/671371/China-President-Xi-Jinping-prepares-army-for-war-USA-North-Korea-WW3-Nuclear-missile-video

    You’re darn right if we somehow manage to escape this pickle I’ll credit Trump. Either way I wouldn’t bet on it.
    So how do you divorce this from our extremely volatile POTUS?
    On what grounds do you assume Xi Jinping would be preparing for war with a POTUS who can't be baited into making dick measuring jokes on twitter?
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
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