PJPOWER : but Eric Holder & the Clinton Foundation!
Halifax2TheMax : whar indictments, whar?
PJPOWER : asparagus
....if only we listened to tRump supporters, perhaps we could understand, reason and compromise with them.... ....nope, turns out they're just morons....
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PJPOWER : but Eric Holder & the Clinton Foundation!
Halifax2TheMax : whar indictments, whar?
PJPOWER : asparagus
....if only we listened to tRump supporters, perhaps we could understand, reason and compromise with them.... ....nope, turns out they're just morons....
Whar? I’m no “trump supporter”, but also not a Clinton supporter. I’d be happy with them sharing a prison cell together if investigators find wrongdoing and if either of them are indicted. Neither Trump nor Hillary have been indicted, will they? Lots of interest in the Clinton Foundation profiting from Russia deals while she was in office and lots of speculation that Trump has a “ptape”. Time will tell. Pretty sure this is all “change you can believe in”.
PJPOWER : but Eric Holder & the Clinton Foundation!
Halifax2TheMax : whar indictments, whar?
PJPOWER : asparagus
....if only we listened to tRump supporters, perhaps we could understand, reason and compromise with them.... ....nope, turns out they're just morons....
Whar?
What is it good for, absolutely nothing, say it again. Or, weren’t they a band in the 80s?
PJPOWER : but Eric Holder & the Clinton Foundation!
Halifax2TheMax : whar indictments, whar?
PJPOWER : asparagus
....if only we listened to tRump supporters, perhaps we could understand, reason and compromise with them.... ....nope, turns out they're just morons....
Whar?
What is it good for, absolutely nothing, say it again. Or, weren’t they a band in the 80s?
Gwar maybe?
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PJPOWER : but Eric Holder & the Clinton Foundation!
Halifax2TheMax : whar indictments, whar?
PJPOWER : asparagus
....if only we listened to tRump supporters, perhaps we could understand, reason and compromise with them.... ....nope, turns out they're just morons....
Whar?
What is it good for, absolutely nothing, say it again. Or, weren’t they a band in the 80s?
Yes WAR is a band from the 70's, 80's and beyond. Great music from that my to ethnic band with hits such Cisco Kid, The World Is A Ghetto and a fab of mine Why Can We be Friends.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
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no no no no...
Come on guys, it's "War HUH! what is it good for?"
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
PJPOWER : but Eric Holder & the Clinton Foundation!
Halifax2TheMax : whar indictments, whar?
PJPOWER : asparagus
....if only we listened to tRump supporters, perhaps we could understand, reason and compromise with them.... ....nope, turns out they're just morons....
Whar? I’m no “trump supporter”, but also not a Clinton supporter. I’d be happy with them sharing a prison cell together if investigators find wrongdoing and if either of them are indicted. Neither Trump nor Hillary have been indicted, will they? Lots of interest in the Clinton Foundation profiting from Russia deals while she was in office and lots of speculation that Trump has a “ptape”. Time will tell. Pretty sure this is all “change you can believe in”.
On the other hand, the tRump Foundation is a private foundation and has been a source of controversy, criticism and scrutiny. The foundation has been fined for making political contributions and admitted engaging in self-dealing practices to benefit Trump, his family, and businesses. It has had no paid staff. The board of directors consisted of tRump, his three kids, and another Trump Organization employee. Trump said he intended to dissolve the foundation; but is unable to do to ongoing investigations. Needless to say, I was unable to locate their annual reports and financial statements.
You sure are acting like a tRump supporter, stop engaging in this what-about-ism and projection. It's not a good look.
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PJPOWER : but Eric Holder & the Clinton Foundation!
Halifax2TheMax : whar indictments, whar?
PJPOWER : asparagus
....if only we listened to tRump supporters, perhaps we could understand, reason and compromise with them.... ....nope, turns out they're just morons....
Whar? I’m no “trump supporter”, but also not a Clinton supporter. I’d be happy with them sharing a prison cell together if investigators find wrongdoing and if either of them are indicted. Neither Trump nor Hillary have been indicted, will they? Lots of interest in the Clinton Foundation profiting from Russia deals while she was in office and lots of speculation that Trump has a “ptape”. Time will tell. Pretty sure this is all “change you can believe in”.
On the other hand, the tRump Foundation is a private foundation and has been a source of controversy, criticism and scrutiny. The foundation has been fined for making political contributions and admitted engaging in self-dealing practices to benefit Trump, his family, and businesses. It has had no paid staff. The board of directors consisted of tRump, his three kids, and another Trump Organization employee. Trump said he intended to dissolve the foundation; but is unable to do to ongoing investigations. Needless to say, I was unable to locate their annual reports and financial statements.
You sure are acting like a tRump supporter, stop engaging in this what-about-ism and projection. It's not a good look.
PJPOWER : but Eric Holder & the Clinton Foundation!
Halifax2TheMax : whar indictments, whar?
PJPOWER : asparagus
....if only we listened to tRump supporters, perhaps we could understand, reason and compromise with them.... ....nope, turns out they're just morons....
Whar? I’m no “trump supporter”, but also not a Clinton supporter. I’d be happy with them sharing a prison cell together if investigators find wrongdoing and if either of them are indicted. Neither Trump nor Hillary have been indicted, will they? Lots of interest in the Clinton Foundation profiting from Russia deals while she was in office and lots of speculation that Trump has a “ptape”. Time will tell. Pretty sure this is all “change you can believe in”.
PJPOWER : but Eric Holder & the Clinton Foundation!
Halifax2TheMax : whar indictments, whar?
PJPOWER : asparagus
....if only we listened to tRump supporters, perhaps we could understand, reason and compromise with them.... ....nope, turns out they're just morons....
Whar? I’m no “trump supporter”, but also not a Clinton supporter. I’d be happy with them sharing a prison cell together if investigators find wrongdoing and if either of them are indicted. Neither Trump nor Hillary have been indicted, will they? Lots of interest in the Clinton Foundation profiting from Russia deals while she was in office and lots of speculation that Trump has a “ptape”. Time will tell. Pretty sure this is all “change you can believe in”.
On the other hand, the tRump Foundation is a private foundation and has been a source of controversy, criticism and scrutiny. The foundation has been fined for making political contributions and admitted engaging in self-dealing practices to benefit Trump, his family, and businesses. It has had no paid staff. The board of directors consisted of tRump, his three kids, and another Trump Organization employee. Trump said he intended to dissolve the foundation; but is unable to do to ongoing investigations. Needless to say, I was unable to locate their annual reports and financial statements.
You sure are acting like a tRump supporter, stop engaging in this what-about-ism and projection. It's not a good look.
This week, in an interview with Bloomberg News, Mr. Giustra said he was frustrated with the news media treatment he had received, and echoed the foundation’s position on Canadian privacy law, saying that by law he could not even tell the Clinton Foundation who his donors were.
you mistake manufactured outrage for controversy, do better
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let's be objective here: if the tables were turned, and it was Trump and the GOP that had funded this dossier, not Clinton, wouldn't you all still be screaming "Collusion!"?
let's be objective here: if the tables were turned, and it was Trump and the GOP that had funded this dossier, not Clinton, wouldn't you all still be screaming "Collusion!"?
No.
lol, ok.
I respectfully disagree. I find that, as unfit as Trump is, and as corrupt as his admin is, I still think, no matter what, people would treat the same situation with higher scrutiny with Trump than with Clinton.
let's be objective here: if the tables were turned, and it was Trump and the GOP that had funded this dossier, not Clinton, wouldn't you all still be screaming "Collusion!"?
No.
lol, ok.
I respectfully disagree. I find that, as unfit as Trump is, and as corrupt as his admin is, I still think, no matter what, people would treat the same situation with higher scrutiny with Trump than with Clinton.
I'm not sure that rings true. I mean, I think Clinton is always held up to far greater scrutiny than Trump and friends. But also, a dossier full of facts isn't the same as colluding to change the results of an election. Just using the term collusion kind of puts this dossier in the same ballpark as Trump's collusion with Russia, and I don't think these two things belong in the same ballpark together.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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let's be objective here: if the tables were turned, and it was Trump and the GOP that had funded this dossier, not Clinton, wouldn't you all still be screaming "Collusion!"?
No.
lol, ok.
I respectfully disagree. I find that, as unfit as Trump is, and as corrupt as his admin is, I still think, no matter what, people would treat the same situation with higher scrutiny with Trump than with Clinton.
I'm not sure that rings true. I mean, I think Clinton is always held up to far greater scrutiny than Trump and friends. But also, a dossier full of facts isn't the same as colluding to change the results of an election. Just using the term collusion kind of puts this dossier in the same ballpark as Trump's collusion with Russia, and I don't think these two things belong in the same ballpark together.
Hiring a firm to dig up dirt on Trump's shady dealings in Russia is not quite the same thing as accepting a meeting from the Kremlin's representatives which promised damaging info on Clinton. One is knowingly colluding with representatives from a foreign government, the other is opposition research through a private company.....which, I believe happens all the time.
let's be objective here: if the tables were turned, and it was Trump and the GOP that had funded this dossier, not Clinton, wouldn't you all still be screaming "Collusion!"?
No.
lol, ok.
I respectfully disagree. I find that, as unfit as Trump is, and as corrupt as his admin is, I still think, no matter what, people would treat the same situation with higher scrutiny with Trump than with Clinton.
I'm not sure that rings true. I mean, I think Clinton is always held up to far greater scrutiny than Trump and friends. But also, a dossier full of facts isn't the same as colluding to change the results of an election. Just using the term collusion kind of puts this dossier in the same ballpark as Trump's collusion with Russia, and I don't think these two things belong in the same ballpark together.
Hiring a firm to dig up dirt on Trump's shady dealings in Russia is not quite the same thing as accepting a meeting from the Kremlin's representatives which promised damaging info on Clinton. One is knowingly colluding with representatives from a foreign government, the other is opposition research through a private company.....which, I believe happens all the time.
And here’s the thing, why would a campaign hire oppo research specifically as it relates to Russia? Because it was “rumored” or “whispered” or because lips were flapping about trump’s sexual preferences while in Moscow for the miss universe pageant? We’re not talking about hookers and blow in Atlantic City for a reason. So Hillary just decides to tell the DNC to get her dirt on trump and Russia, I don’t care, make it up if you have to? Problem for Trump is, you can’t mske this shit up.
let's be objective here: if the tables were turned, and it was Trump and the GOP that had funded this dossier, not Clinton, wouldn't you all still be screaming "Collusion!"?
No.
lol, ok.
I respectfully disagree. I find that, as unfit as Trump is, and as corrupt as his admin is, I still think, no matter what, people would treat the same situation with higher scrutiny with Trump than with Clinton.
I'm not sure that rings true. I mean, I think Clinton is always held up to far greater scrutiny than Trump and friends. But also, a dossier full of facts isn't the same as colluding to change the results of an election. Just using the term collusion kind of puts this dossier in the same ballpark as Trump's collusion with Russia, and I don't think these two things belong in the same ballpark together.
Hiring a firm to dig up dirt on Trump's shady dealings in Russia is not quite the same thing as accepting a meeting from the Kremlin's representatives which promised damaging info on Clinton. One is knowingly colluding with representatives from a foreign government, the other is opposition research through a private company.....which, I believe happens all the time.
And here’s the thing, why would a campaign hire oppo research specifically as it relates to Russia? Because it was “rumored” or “whispered” or because lips were flapping about trump’s sexual preferences while in Moscow for the miss universe pageant? We’re not talking about hookers and blow in Atlantic City for a reason. So Hillary just decides to tell the DNC to get her dirt on trump and Russia, I don’t care, make it up if you have to? Problem for Trump is, you can’t mske this shit up.
We'll know all this and more as soon as Bobby and his team finish up....
let's be objective here: if the tables were turned, and it was Trump and the GOP that had funded this dossier, not Clinton, wouldn't you all still be screaming "Collusion!"?
No.
lol, ok.
I respectfully disagree. I find that, as unfit as Trump is, and as corrupt as his admin is, I still think, no matter what, people would treat the same situation with higher scrutiny with Trump than with Clinton.
I'm not sure that rings true. I mean, I think Clinton is always held up to far greater scrutiny than Trump and friends. But also, a dossier full of facts isn't the same as colluding to change the results of an election. Just using the term collusion kind of puts this dossier in the same ballpark as Trump's collusion with Russia, and I don't think these two things belong in the same ballpark together.
Hiring a firm to dig up dirt on Trump's shady dealings in Russia is not quite the same thing as accepting a meeting from the Kremlin's representatives which promised damaging info on Clinton. One is knowingly colluding with representatives from a foreign government, the other is opposition research through a private company.....which, I believe happens all the time.
And here’s the thing, why would a campaign hire oppo research specifically as it relates to Russia? Because it was “rumored” or “whispered” or because lips were flapping about trump’s sexual preferences while in Moscow for the miss universe pageant? We’re not talking about hookers and blow in Atlantic City for a reason. So Hillary just decides to tell the DNC to get her dirt on trump and Russia, I don’t care, make it up if you have to? Problem for Trump is, you can’t mske this shit up.
We'll know all this and more as soon as Bobby and his team finish up....
let's be objective here: if the tables were turned, and it was Trump and the GOP that had funded this dossier, not Clinton, wouldn't you all still be screaming "Collusion!"?
No.
lol, ok.
I respectfully disagree. I find that, as unfit as Trump is, and as corrupt as his admin is, I still think, no matter what, people would treat the same situation with higher scrutiny with Trump than with Clinton.
I'm not sure that rings true. I mean, I think Clinton is always held up to far greater scrutiny than Trump and friends. But also, a dossier full of facts isn't the same as colluding to change the results of an election. Just using the term collusion kind of puts this dossier in the same ballpark as Trump's collusion with Russia, and I don't think these two things belong in the same ballpark together.
Hiring a firm to dig up dirt on Trump's shady dealings in Russia is not quite the same thing as accepting a meeting from the Kremlin's representatives which promised damaging info on Clinton. One is knowingly colluding with representatives from a foreign government, the other is opposition research through a private company.....which, I believe happens all the time.
Well right. I mean, building the dossier is basically doing a private investigation into bad shit Trump was doing. I'm not actually sure why anyone is bothered by this, and I know that collusion is not the right term to use. Another false equivalency being built by the right.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
so i've been working in and around the construction industry for the last couple years. I can tell you firsthand, Mexico does indeed send its best. DT does not know what he says. I wish this racist pig could be made to eat his shit.
No matter what he does he will be known as president predator , pathological liar , racist , narcissistic but never as a good president or honest president or caring president ! Hey it's easy to fight the opioids pandemic just don't start to do drugs I never did and look at me ! Idiot for the ages ...
No matter what he does he will be known as president predator , pathological liar , racist , narcissistic but never as a good president or honest president or caring president ! Hey it's easy to fight the opioids pandemic just don't start to do drugs I never did and look at me ! Idiot for the ages ...
let's be objective here: if the tables were turned, and it was Trump and the GOP that had funded this dossier, not Clinton, wouldn't you all still be screaming "Collusion!"?
No.
lol, ok.
I respectfully disagree. I find that, as unfit as Trump is, and as corrupt as his admin is, I still think, no matter what, people would treat the same situation with higher scrutiny with Trump than with Clinton.
I'm not sure that rings true. I mean, I think Clinton is always held up to far greater scrutiny than Trump and friends. But also, a dossier full of facts isn't the same as colluding to change the results of an election. Just using the term collusion kind of puts this dossier in the same ballpark as Trump's collusion with Russia, and I don't think these two things belong in the same ballpark together.
I'm not comparing the two things. I'm comparing the reaction that Trump gets for doing things in relation to the reaction others get/would get for doing the same thing.
By and large Trump gets what he deserves, but there have been instances where I think "um....that's really not a big deal.....it's only a big deal because it's Trump".
I'd like to remind you all that I was Tiki before all of that shit in Charlottesville went down. I actually changed my name in here (with administrative help) from thetikibomb cause I thought that was too much.
Charlottesville 2013 was my 5th PJ show, maybe 8 or nine rows up right next to Mikey, and it was amazing.
Another reason to impeach that sorry assed "so-called" President? He's down with the white Supremacists. He's BARELY a generation and a half down from being a full fledged Nazi, and it turns out that xenophobia and flat out RACISM is hard to flush down the toilet when you're in a hurry. He's truly dangerous.
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....if only we listened to tRump supporters, perhaps we could understand, reason and compromise with them....
....nope, turns out they're just morons....
I’m no “trump supporter”, but also not a Clinton supporter. I’d be happy with them sharing a prison cell together if investigators find wrongdoing and if either of them are indicted. Neither Trump nor Hillary have been indicted, will they? Lots of interest in the Clinton Foundation profiting from Russia deals while she was in office and lots of speculation that Trump has a “ptape”. Time will tell. Pretty sure this is all “change you can believe in”.
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Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Come on guys, it's "War HUH! what is it good for?"
Clinton Foundation is a non-profit. And you can find their Annual Reports, Financials & Tax-Exempt Materials here.
On the other hand, the tRump Foundation is a private foundation and has been a source of controversy, criticism and scrutiny. The foundation has been fined for making political contributions and admitted engaging in self-dealing practices to benefit Trump, his family, and businesses. It has had no paid staff. The board of directors consisted of tRump, his three kids, and another Trump Organization employee. Trump said he intended to dissolve the foundation; but is unable to do to ongoing investigations. Needless to say, I was unable to locate their annual reports and financial statements.
You sure are acting like a tRump supporter, stop engaging in this what-about-ism and projection. It's not a good look.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/04/30/us/politics/canadian-partnership-shielded-identities-of-donors-to-clinton-foundation.html
ftfa:
you mistake manufactured outrage for controversy, do better
I respectfully disagree. I find that, as unfit as Trump is, and as corrupt as his admin is, I still think, no matter what, people would treat the same situation with higher scrutiny with Trump than with Clinton.
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Hiring a firm to dig up dirt on Trump's shady dealings in Russia is not quite the same thing as accepting a meeting from the Kremlin's representatives which promised damaging info on Clinton. One is knowingly colluding with representatives from a foreign government, the other is opposition research through a private company.....which, I believe happens all the time.
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
Brilliantati©
We'll know all this and more as soon as Bobby and his team finish up....
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Someone Put Up A Plaque To Mark The Spot Where Trump Bragged About Groping Women
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Hey it's easy to fight the opioids pandemic just don't start to do drugs I never did and look at me ! Idiot for the ages ...
Share with your spouses...far and wide... http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/27/health/marijuana-increased-sex/index.html
By and large Trump gets what he deserves, but there have been instances where I think "um....that's really not a big deal.....it's only a big deal because it's Trump".
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I actually changed my name in here (with administrative help) from thetikibomb cause I thought that was too much.
Charlottesville 2013 was my 5th PJ show, maybe 8 or nine rows up right next to Mikey, and it was amazing.
Another reason to impeach that sorry assed "so-called" President? He's down with the white Supremacists. He's BARELY a generation and a half down from being a full fledged Nazi, and it turns out that xenophobia and flat out RACISM is hard to flush down the toilet when you're in a hurry. He's truly dangerous.
and the PTAPE too.