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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    mickeyrat said:
    looks like he has lost the national review, a conservative site

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/11/no/
    That's pretty scathing 

    the headline is priceless....


    Maybe the review shouldn’t have spent 4 years telling us Trump’s corruption and crimes weren’t real. Too late, guys. 
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    mickeyrat said:
    When JFK jr appears they’ll all get behind him. 
  • mickeyrat said:
    When JFK jr appears they’ll all get behind him. 
    In Dealey Plaza.
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    Scio me nihil scire

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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,738
    I think its clear a lot of the republican machine which includes their media machine is backing desantis.  Behind that, Im sure is a lot of money.  In Washington, Im sure a lot of Rs in office want this problem dealt with. Many powerful and influential people to pull the rug out.   

    I also wonder if they'll pull an Ole at some point and allow one or more of these legal boulders to finish the job
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    MayDay10 said:
    I think its clear a lot of the republican machine which includes their media machine is backing desantis.  Behind that, Im sure is a lot of money.  In Washington, Im sure a lot of Rs in office want this problem dealt with. Many powerful and influential people to pull the rug out.   

    I also wonder if they'll pull an Ole at some point and allow one or more of these legal boulders to finish the job
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  • MayDay10 said:
    I think its clear a lot of the republican machine which includes their media machine is backing desantis.  Behind that, Im sure is a lot of money.  In Washington, Im sure a lot of Rs in office want this problem dealt with. Many powerful and influential people to pull the rug out.   

    I also wonder if they'll pull an Ole at some point and allow one or more of these legal boulders to finish the job
    Then the rigged, fixed deep state system is real and POOTWH takes his 35% third party.
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  • Like I said, going to be fun to watch. Are you sick and tired of all the winning yet?
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,647
    McConnell is going to wish he would have convicted tRump. It's going to be great to watch this unfold.

    Dems have 2024 locked up
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  • MayDay10 said:
    Id honestly consider voting for Romney at this point 
    Romney doesn't bother me...insane how the tRump/GOP reduced him to nothing.

    I still remember being blown away that both previous GOP presidential candidates (McCain/Romney) were both saying tRump was a piece of shit and the GOP totally ignored them.
    I remember most people saying McCain and Romney were pieces of shit, lol.

    Wow how things have changed.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    edited November 2022
    MayDay10 said:
    Id honestly consider voting for Romney at this point 
    Romney doesn't bother me...insane how the tRump/GOP reduced him to nothing.

    I still remember being blown away that both previous GOP presidential candidates (McCain/Romney) were both saying tRump was a piece of shit and the GOP totally ignored them.
    I remember most people saying McCain and Romney were pieces of shit, lol.

    Wow how things have changed.
    Are you comparing them to Trump? The hatred is not remotely on the same level and for good reason. 

    Personally, I've always liked both of them.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,350
    I think he's commenting on how "POS" has been redefined. 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,647
    MayDay10 said:
    Id honestly consider voting for Romney at this point 
    Romney doesn't bother me...insane how the tRump/GOP reduced him to nothing.

    I still remember being blown away that both previous GOP presidential candidates (McCain/Romney) were both saying tRump was a piece of shit and the GOP totally ignored them.
    I remember most people saying McCain and Romney were pieces of shit, lol.

    Wow how things have changed.
    Are you comparing them to Trump? The hatred is not remotely on the same level and for good reason. 

    Personally, I've always liked both of them.
    McCain solidified my slide to the democratic party. I had voted for Kerry over Bush due to Bush cutting taxes and going to war in the same year.

    Nothing against McCain except his selection of Palin. No fucking way was I voting for that shit.
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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,055
    SO MUCH LOSING

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    MayDay10 said:
    Id honestly consider voting for Romney at this point 
    Romney doesn't bother me...insane how the tRump/GOP reduced him to nothing.

    I still remember being blown away that both previous GOP presidential candidates (McCain/Romney) were both saying tRump was a piece of shit and the GOP totally ignored them.
    I remember most people saying McCain and Romney were pieces of shit, lol.

    Wow how things have changed.
    Are you comparing them to Trump? The hatred is not remotely on the same level and for good reason. 

    Personally, I've always liked both of them.
    McCain solidified my slide to the democratic party. I had voted for Kerry over Bush due to Bush cutting taxes and going to war in the same year.

    Nothing against McCain except his selection of Palin. No fucking way was I voting for that shit.
    Me too, actually. I voted third party that year...would've voted for him had he made a competent selection. That sad, I still liked him. 
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,194
    MayDay10 said:
    Id honestly consider voting for Romney at this point 
    Romney doesn't bother me...insane how the tRump/GOP reduced him to nothing.

    I still remember being blown away that both previous GOP presidential candidates (McCain/Romney) were both saying tRump was a piece of shit and the GOP totally ignored them.
    I remember most people saying McCain and Romney were pieces of shit, lol.

    Wow how things have changed.
    I can only specifically speak for myself, but I didn't say that. I voted against them but I generally didn't dislike them.  My overall memory isn't really that...though it is that about W.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,647
    OnWis97 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    Id honestly consider voting for Romney at this point 
    Romney doesn't bother me...insane how the tRump/GOP reduced him to nothing.

    I still remember being blown away that both previous GOP presidential candidates (McCain/Romney) were both saying tRump was a piece of shit and the GOP totally ignored them.
    I remember most people saying McCain and Romney were pieces of shit, lol.

    Wow how things have changed.
    I can only specifically speak for myself, but I didn't say that. I voted against them but I generally didn't dislike them.  My overall memory isn't really that...though it is that about W.
    Romney bothered me a bit just because I felt like he was letting the far right influence him too much during his campaign. But that was just politics.

    I wouldn't have been nervous with him as POTUS though. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,814
    MayDay10 said:
    Id honestly consider voting for Romney at this point 
    Romney doesn't bother me...insane how the tRump/GOP reduced him to nothing.

    I still remember being blown away that both previous GOP presidential candidates (McCain/Romney) were both saying tRump was a piece of shit and the GOP totally ignored them.
    I remember most people saying McCain and Romney were pieces of shit, lol.

    Wow how things have changed.
    Are you comparing them to Trump? The hatred is not remotely on the same level and for good reason. 

    Personally, I've always liked both of them.
    I voted for Obama twice, but respect both of these guys.  This is how it should be.  
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    Ironically, the only kind of similar hatred I saw (and still see) towards McCain came from the magamoo republicans. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,277

     
    Trump criminal probes will proceed — even as he's candidate
    By ERIC TUCKER
    42 mins ago

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Donald Trump's early announcement of his third White House bid won't shield the former president from the criminal investigations already confronting him as an ordinary citizen, leaving him legally and politically exposed as he seeks the 2024 Republican nomination.

    The Justice Department is pushing ahead with its probes. And with the midterm elections now mostly complete and the 2024 presidential campaign months away from beginning in earnest, federal prosecutors have plenty of time to continue their work even as Trump hits the campaign trail.

    “I don’t think the department is going to hesitate as a result of Trump nominating himself and anointing himself as the first candidate in the 2024 election,” said former Justice Department prosecutor Michael Weinstein. “I just think they will see that as him trying to game the system as he's done very successfully in the courts," and they're prepared for his “blowback.”

    Trump enters the race facing federal investigations related to his efforts to overturn the 2020 election results and into the hoarding of top-secret government documents at his Florida estate — plus a separate s tate probe in Georgia. The Mar-a-Lago investigation has advanced especially swiftly, with prosecutors this month giving a close Trump ally immunity to secure his testimony before a federal grand jury. Justice Department lawyers in that probe say they have amassed evidence of potential crimes involving not only obstruction but also the willful retention of national defense information.

    It remains unclear if anyone will be charged, as does the timetable for a decision. But former officials say the best way to ensure the outcome is seen as above reproach is to conduct a by-the-book investigation showing no special favor or ill treatment because of Trump's former high office.

    “The public will have the most faith in what you’re doing, and you will get the most successful results, if you treat Donald Trump like any other American,” said Matthew Miller, who served as Justice Department spokesman under former Attorney General Eric Holder.

    Current Attorney General Merrick Garland has suggested as much, saying last summer in response to questions about Trump and the Jan. 6 investigation that “no person is above the law.” Asked in a July television interview how a potential Trump candidacy might affect the department, Garland replied: “We will hold accountable anyone who is criminally responsible for attempting to interfere with the transfer — legitimate, lawful transfer — of power from one administration to the next."

    Despite the former president's announcement, the Department of Justice will continue its investigation into the classified documents found at Mar-a-Lago. (Nov. 15)

    Investigating any elected official, or candidate for office, almost always invites political speculation. Justice Department protocol cautions prosecutors against taking overt action in the direct run-up to an election, but that's more a standard convention than a hard-and-fast rule. And the 2024 presidential contest is two years away.

    Still, it's not easy to investigate a former president or current candidate. That's especially true in the case of Trump, who spent his presidency assailing his own Justice Department and haranguing attorneys general he himself had appointed. He has already lambasted the FBI for searching Mar-a-Lago in August, using the episode to raise funds from supporters.

    Now, with his candidacy official, he and his supporters will try to reframe the narrative of the investigation as political persecution by a Democratic administration that fears him for 2024.

    In fact, one risk for Democrats is that Trump — who during his announcement Tuesday declared himself “a victim” — could galvanize his supporters anew with that argument. On the other hand, the results of last week's midterm elections suggest he may be more politically vulnerable than many had thought, including in his Republican Party.

    What about past investigations of a presidential candidate? There is a recent precedent, though under different circumstances.

    In 2016, the Obama administration's Justice Department investigated Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton over her use of a private email server as secretary of state. Despite the efforts of the law enforcement officials who worked the investigation to remain above the fray, the probe became repeatedly mired in presidential politics — in ways that may not have been foreseen when it began.

    Then-Attorney General Loretta Lynch expressed regret over a chance encounter she had with Bill Clinton in the final days of the investigation. Former FBI Director James Comey was blamed for harming Clinton’s candidacy by making a detailed public explanation of why the bureau was not recommending charges and then for reopening the probe 11 days before the election.

    David Laufman, who supervised that investigation for the Justice Department as chief of the same section now running the Mar-a-Lago probe, said there's a “surreal disconnect” between the political maelstrom that accompanies politically freighted investigations and the heads-down mentality of a prosecutor determined to just do the work.

    “Here we were, conducting a criminal investigation with national security undertones in a way that was practically splashed on the front page of every newspaper every fricking day," Laufman said. “And all we could do was to continue to do what we knew had to be done — to obtain all the relevant facts needed to make judgments about whether it was appropriate to recommend criminal charges.”

    He said he believed the investigators working Mar-a-Lago have been the same way, praising their professionalism amid pressure from the public and even concerns about their personal safety.

    In the Clinton case, Comey has said he considered recommending a separate special counsel to direct the investigation, though he ultimately did not. The option of a specially appointed prosecutor who would report to Garland exists here as well, just as the Trump-era Justice Department appointed former FBI Director Robert Mueller to lead the investigation into potential coordination between the 2016 Trump campaign and Russia.

    It's not clear how seriously Garland would consider that. A department spokesman declined to comment.

    Politics aside, in making the decision whether to bring an indictment, much will ultimately depend on the strength of the Justice Department's case.

    “If the government's case is exceptionally strong, I think the rule of law will have a predominant weight in the attorney general's calculus,” Laufman said.

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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,194
    mrussel1 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    Id honestly consider voting for Romney at this point 
    Romney doesn't bother me...insane how the tRump/GOP reduced him to nothing.

    I still remember being blown away that both previous GOP presidential candidates (McCain/Romney) were both saying tRump was a piece of shit and the GOP totally ignored them.
    I remember most people saying McCain and Romney were pieces of shit, lol.

    Wow how things have changed.
    Are you comparing them to Trump? The hatred is not remotely on the same level and for good reason. 

    Personally, I've always liked both of them.
    I voted for Obama twice, but respect both of these guys.  This is how it should be.  
    Same. Of course, I did dislike both of their running mates.
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,876
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    Id honestly consider voting for Romney at this point 
    Romney doesn't bother me...insane how the tRump/GOP reduced him to nothing.

    I still remember being blown away that both previous GOP presidential candidates (McCain/Romney) were both saying tRump was a piece of shit and the GOP totally ignored them.
    I remember most people saying McCain and Romney were pieces of shit, lol.

    Wow how things have changed.
    Are you comparing them to Trump? The hatred is not remotely on the same level and for good reason. 

    Personally, I've always liked both of them.
    I voted for Obama twice, but respect both of these guys.  This is how it should be.  
    Same. Of course, I did dislike both of their running mates.
    Terrible running mates. Pence was actually the least crazy VP pick in years for republicans, but they had to one up themselves by going full crazy on POTUS.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,055
    Mike Pence has issues.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    MayDay10 said:
    Id honestly consider voting for Romney at this point 
    Romney doesn't bother me...insane how the tRump/GOP reduced him to nothing.

    I still remember being blown away that both previous GOP presidential candidates (McCain/Romney) were both saying tRump was a piece of shit and the GOP totally ignored them.
    I remember most people saying McCain and Romney were pieces of shit, lol.

    Wow how things have changed.
    Yup and in reality they were the last chance to stop this MAGA wave...
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    Id honestly consider voting for Romney at this point 
    Romney doesn't bother me...insane how the tRump/GOP reduced him to nothing.

    I still remember being blown away that both previous GOP presidential candidates (McCain/Romney) were both saying tRump was a piece of shit and the GOP totally ignored them.
    I remember most people saying McCain and Romney were pieces of shit, lol.

    Wow how things have changed.
    Are you comparing them to Trump? The hatred is not remotely on the same level and for good reason. 

    Personally, I've always liked both of them.
    I voted for Obama twice, but respect both of these guys.  This is how it should be.  
    Same. Of course, I did dislike both of their running mates.
    I voted for Obama over McCain...partly due to the Alaskan.  I voted for Mitt over Obama...and I'd do it again.
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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,055
    I voted for Hillary in a pretty far down the road contested primary.  I did vote for Obama twice and was SHOCKED that they just acted like racists.

    I wasn't the biggest Bill Clinton fan, and I did not vote for him.  Mike Dukakis got screwed as did John Kerry.

    Ralph Nader and Ross Perot.   

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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,647
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,647
    edited November 2022
    tbergs said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    Id honestly consider voting for Romney at this point 
    Romney doesn't bother me...insane how the tRump/GOP reduced him to nothing.

    I still remember being blown away that both previous GOP presidential candidates (McCain/Romney) were both saying tRump was a piece of shit and the GOP totally ignored them.
    I remember most people saying McCain and Romney were pieces of shit, lol.

    Wow how things have changed.
    Are you comparing them to Trump? The hatred is not remotely on the same level and for good reason. 

    Personally, I've always liked both of them.
    I voted for Obama twice, but respect both of these guys.  This is how it should be.  
    Same. Of course, I did dislike both of their running mates.
    Terrible running mates. Pence was actually the least crazy VP pick in years for republicans, but they had to one up themselves by going full crazy on POTUS.
    At the time Pence would not have been re-elected as Gov of Indiana. He had been pushing this anti-gay messaging and his polling here was horrible. 

    He was the perfect choice for tRump because he brought the radical Xtian vote.

    Here he is at the last supper signing the anti-gay bill


    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,055
    That was my favorite dip-in to that speech.  I turned it on, he spread his arms like Jesus and said, "I’m a victim."

    He had those saps LOCKED IN the fucking ballroom, right near where they found all that paper.  
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,647
    It's still amazing to me that the GOP just doesn't put an end to tRump. So far his VP, SecDef, SecState, former Chiefs of Staff, GOP megadonors, etc., have all  come out against him publicly.


    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
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