This sounds like the junior high school economics club put out a statement. Good lord is this country fucked if they think that owned the libs. I’m sure their base is fist pumping. Or is it the weak assed half way fist salute a la nazi?
52% believe the search was justified. That's a solid number. That number will likely only increase as more information comes out, like that photo from yesterday.
52% believe the search was justified. That's a solid number. That number will likely only increase as more information comes out, like that photo from yesterday.
From the WSJ no less.
Weird… I was led to believe the majority of Americans feel the opposite, that there’s no small amount of people willing to die for him & all this will only help him in 2024.
the ACTUAL number, post Ukraine impeachment, post election loss, post Jan 6, post SECOND impeachment, post not going to Joe's inauguration like a little bitch, and now this stolen classified document caper (he did that AFTER he tried to overthrow the government, mind you) I FEEL is closer to 21% or 22%. I just FEEL it.
Who's got any Camden tickets that don't cost 1100 dollars? I'm an excellent ticket buddy.
Me. They are right next to the MSG GA I'm not going to use.
And are the MSG tix next to the Apollo tix you’re not going to use as well? How much for the trifecta? Or have you already donated them to the raffle for POOTWH’s Defense Fund?
And you know POOTWH is giddy with desire as to how putin on the ritz is a real mob boss and wishes he could be too.
Lukoil CEO dies in mysterious fall from Moscow hospital window
The chairman of Russia’s second-largest oil company, Lukoil, died Thursday after reportedly falling from the window of a Moscow hospital where he was being treated after suffering a heart attack.
Ravil Maganov, 67, fell from a sixth-floor window at the Central Clinical Hospital around 7 a.m. local time, the state-run Tass news agency reported.
It was not clear whether Maganov’s death was an accident, a suicide or something more sinister.
Conflicting theories immediately emerged in the Russian media, with Tass citing an unnamed source in law enforcement as saying that Maganov had been taking antidepressants and killed himself.
Baza, an online outlet with links to the police, reported that the oil executive might have slipped while smoking on a balcony.
Lukoil confirmed Maganov’s death but said only that he “passed away following a severe illness.”
“Ravil Maganov immensely contributed to the development of not only the company, but of the entire Russian oil and gas sector,” the company said in a statement posted on its website that also expressed condolences to his family on behalf of Lukoil’s “thousands of employees.”
Maganov’s unexplained fall is at least the sixth fatal incident this year involving high-profile Russian oil and gas executives whose lives ended in gory or murky circumstances.
Who's got any Camden tickets that don't cost 1100 dollars? I'm an excellent ticket buddy.
Me. They are right next to the MSG GA I'm not going to use.
And are the MSG tix next to the Apollo tix you’re not going to use as well? How much for the trifecta? Or have you already donated them to the raffle for POOTWH’s Defense Fund?
Totally forgot about the Apollo show. I need to dump those tickets in a hurry.
Gee, look what page of this thread we're on. Its a sign. See? what's 9X7? No, its not 45. Go back to school you deplorable. But it is 63. What's 63-9? Why 54, of course! 54 reversed is 45 but that's not all! What is 54-7? Why its 47 and not your waist size. Could be but probably not. Now, what's 47-2? Where does he get 2 from you ask? Look at the thread page, its 1917, and 1+1=2, right, tie your shoe or is it buckle? Anyways, 47-2=45! OMFG!
Gee, look what page of this thread we're on. Its a sign. See? what's 9X7? No, its not 45. Go back to school you deplorable. But it is 63. What's 63-9? Why 54, of course! 54 reversed is 45 but that's not all! What is 54-7? Why its 47 and not your waist size. Could be but probably not. Now, what's 47-2? Where does he get 2 from you ask? Look at the thread page, its 1917, and 1+1=2, right, tie your shoe or is it buckle? Anyways, 47-2=45! OMFG!
45 shall return.
to the shitter for round two. Another dump will be blasted and TOPSECRET/SCI docs will be torn up and flushed.
Over 10,000 govt docs without classified markings were seized from Mar-a-Lago, DOJ says
Besides documents marked top secret and classified, newly unsealed information shows Trump also had a mountain of other documents and photos.
In addition to troves of information marked "secret" and "top secret," the FBI's search of former President Donald Trump's Florida home turned up over 10,000 U.S. government documents and photographs without classification markings, a newly unsealed Justice Department inventoryof the seized items shows.
Someone should walk into a police station in Wilkes Barre, PA and file a theft report and request that POOTWH be arrested and detained for theft of government property. I’d assume that as a citizen and tax payer, you’d have standing. Or show up with zip ties and make a citizen’s arrest.
It's US Govt. PROPERTY and does not belong to him.
I'm aware of that, but if he took it when he was prez, I'm just asking if it is technically illegal or not.
I don't know, but on it's face. it doesn't make sense that one would be allowed to hang onto government documents after leaving office & returning to private citizenship.
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It's US Govt. PROPERTY and does not belong to him.
I'm aware of that, but if he took it when he was prez, I'm just asking if it is technically illegal or not.
I don't know, but on it's face. it doesn't make sense that one would be allowed to hang onto government documents after leaving office & returning to private citizenship.
I love how some of his supporters have used the "well he may have been using these documents to write his memoir." Lol. Everyone knows that is not true. Plus, Trump has not even used that excuse. Plus, if he was using them for that reason, he would not have refused to return them over the last year and a half.
They have nothing.
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Trump search inventory reveals new details from FBI seizure
By ERIC TUCKER
45 mins ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — Along with highly classified government documents, the FBI agents who searched former President Donald Trump’s Florida estate found dozens of empty folders marked classified but with nothing inside and no explanation of what might have been there, according to a more detailed inventory of the seized material made public on Friday.
The agents also found more than 10,000 other government documents kept by Trump with no classification marked.
The inventory compiled by the Justice Department reveals in general terms the contents of 33 boxes and containers taken from Trump’s office and a storage room at Mar-a-Lago during the Aug. 8 search. Though the inventory does not describe the content of the documents, it shows the extent to which classified information — including material at the top-secret level — was stashed in boxes at the home and mixed among newspapers, magazines, clothing and other personal items.
And the empty folders raise the question of whether the government has recovered all of the classified papers that Trump kept after leaving the White House.
The inventory makes clear for the first time the volume of unclassified government documents at the home even though presidential records were to have been turned over to the National Archives and Records Administration. The Archives had tried unsuccessfully for months to secure their return from Trump and then contacted the FBI after locating classified information in a batch of 15 boxes it received in January.
The Justice Department has said there was no secure space at Mar-a-Lago for sensitive government secrets, and has opened a criminal investigation focused on their retention there and on what it says were efforts in the past several months to obstruct the probe. It is also investigating potential violations of a law that criminalizes the mutilation or concealment of government records, classified or not.
Lawyers for Trump did not immediately return an email seeking comment Friday. Trump spokesman Taylor Budowich asserted that the FBI search was a “SMASH AND GRAB” — though the Justice Department had received court-authorized permission to search specific locations in the home.
The inventory had been filed earlier under seal, but the Justice Department had said that given the “extraordinary circumstances,” it did not object to making it public. Trump himself has previously called for the disclosure of documents related to the search. U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon said on Thursday that she planned to unseal the inventory and did so on Friday.
All told, the inventory shows, the FBI seized more than 100 documents with classification markings in August, including 18 marked top secret, 54 secret and 31 confidential. The FBI had identified 184 documents marked as classified in 15 boxes recovered by the Archives in January, and received additional classified documents in a single Redweld envelope during a June visit to Mar-a-Lago.
The Justice Department has said that it searched the property in August after developing evidence that documents were likely “concealed and removed” from the storage room as part of an effort to obstruct its probe.
The court filings have not offered an explanation for why Trump had kept the classified documents, and why he and his representatives did not return them when requested.
The inventory shows that 48 empty folders with classified banners were taken either from the storage room or office, along with additional empty folders labeled as “Return to Staff Secretary” or military aide.
It is not clear from the inventory list what might have happened to any of the documents that apparently had been inside.
Separately Friday, the Justice Department said in a court filing that it had reviewed the records seized during the recent search and had segregated those with classified markings to ensure that they were being stored according to proper protocol and procedure.
“The seized materials will continue to be used to further the government’s investigation, and the investigative team will continue to use and evaluate the seized materials as it takes further investigative steps, such as through additional witness interviews and grand jury practice,” the department said.
It added that “additional evidence pertaining to the seized items,” including the manner in which they were stored, “will inform the government’s investigation.”
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House committee reaches deal to get Trump financial records
By KEVIN FREKING
Yesterday
WASHINGTON (AP) — A House committee seeking financial records from former President Donald Trump has reached an agreement that ends litigation on the matter and requires an accounting firm to turn over some of the material, the panel's leader announced Thursday.
The long-running case began in April 2019, when the House Committee on Oversight and Reform first subpoenaed a wealth of records from Trump’s then-accounting firm, Mazars USA. The committee cited testimony from Trump's former attorney, Michael Cohen, that it said raised questions about the president's representation of his financial affairs when it came to seeking loans and paying taxes.
Under the agreement, Trump has agreed to end his legal challenges to the subpoena and Mazars USA has agreed to produce responsive documents to the committee as expeditiously as possible, said Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., who heads the committee.
“After numerous court victories, I am pleased that my committee has now reached an agreement to obtain key financial documents that former President Trump fought for years to hide from Congress,” Maloney said.
Trump is facing investigations on several fronts, including the storage of top-secret government information discovered at Trump's Mar-a-Lago home and whether the former president's team criminally obstructed the inquiry. In Georgia, prosecutors are investigating whether he and allies illegally tried to interfere in the 2020 presidential election. Meanwhile, congressional committees are following through on investigations that began when he was president.
The settlement over Mazars follows a July decision by a federal appeals court in Washington that narrowed what records Congress is entitled to obtain. The court said the committee should be given records pertinent to financial ties between foreign countries and Trump or any of his businesses for 2017-18.
The appeals court also ordered Mazars to turn over documents between November 2016 and 2018 relating to the Trump company that held the lease granted by the federal government for the former Trump International Hotel, located between the White House and the Capitol.
In the decision, the court said Trump's financial records would “advance the Committee’s consideration of ethics reform legislation across all three of its investigative tracks,” including on presidential ethics and conflicts of interest, presidential financial disclosures, and presidential adherence to Constitutional safeguards against foreign interference and undue influence.
The House investigation dates February 2019, when Trump's former personal attorney, Cohen, testified to the committee that Trump had a history of misrepresenting the value of assets to gain favorable loan terms and tax benefits.
Cohen served time in federal prison after pleading guilty in 2018 to tax crimes, lying to Congress and campaign finance violations, some of which involved his role in orchestrating payments to two women to keep them from talking about alleged affairs with Trump.
But his testimony prompted the committee to seek key financial documents from Mazars, and in April 2019, the committee issued a subpoena to Mazars seeking four targeted categories of documents.
The following month, Trump sued to prevent Mazars from complying with the subpoena. The case has been winding its way through the court system since.
Mazars earlier this year said it had cut ties with Trump and warned that financial statements the firm had prepared for Trump “should no longer be relied upon” by anyone doing business with him.
Another House committee, the House Ways and Means Committee, has been seeking Trump's tax returns and waging its own litigation. In that case, a three-judge appellate court panel agreed last month with a lower court's decision in favor of Congress and that the Treasury Department should provide the tax returns to the committee.
The Justice Department, under the Trump administration, had defended a decision by then-Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin to withhold the tax returns from Congress. Mnuchin argued that he could withhold the documents because he concluded they were being sought by Democrats for partisan reasons. A lawsuit ensued.
After Biden took office, the committee renewed the request, seeking Trump’s tax returns and additional information from 2015-2020. The White House took the position that the request was a valid one and that the Treasury Department had no choice but to comply. Trump then attempted to halt the handover in court.
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Someone should walk into a police station in Wilkes Barre, PA and file a theft report and request that POOTWH be arrested and detained for theft of government property. I’d assume that as a citizen and tax payer, you’d have standing. Or show up with zip ties and make a citizen’s arrest.
52% believe the search was justified. That's a solid number. That number will likely only increase as more information comes out, like that photo from yesterday.
I donno , 52% sounds shockingly low, considering he clearly broke the law and lied to investigators.
At least we know your MSG GAs are getting used since we saw them on trumps floor next to the top secret SCI docs. Not sure if the Camden $1100s were on the floor.
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52% believe the search was justified. That's a solid number. That number will likely only increase as more information comes out, like that photo from yesterday.
Time will tell I suppose.
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the ACTUAL number, post Ukraine impeachment, post election loss, post Jan 6, post SECOND impeachment, post not going to Joe's inauguration like a little bitch, and now this stolen classified document caper (he did that AFTER he tried to overthrow the government, mind you) I FEEL is closer to 21% or 22%. I just FEEL it.
It's DEFINATELY not half the country.
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Lukoil CEO dies in mysterious fall from Moscow hospital window
The chairman of Russia’s second-largest oil company, Lukoil, died Thursday after reportedly falling from the window of a Moscow hospital where he was being treated after suffering a heart attack.Ravil Maganov, 67, fell from a sixth-floor window at the Central Clinical Hospital around 7 a.m. local time, the state-run Tass news agency reported.
It was not clear whether Maganov’s death was an accident, a suicide or something more sinister.
Conflicting theories immediately emerged in the Russian media, with Tass citing an unnamed source in law enforcement as saying that Maganov had been taking antidepressants and killed himself.
Baza, an online outlet with links to the police, reported that the oil executive might have slipped while smoking on a balcony.
Russian oil giant Lukoil had big dreams for its U.S. gas stations. The invasion of Ukraine could spell the end.Lukoil confirmed Maganov’s death but said only that he “passed away following a severe illness.”
“Ravil Maganov immensely contributed to the development of not only the company, but of the entire Russian oil and gas sector,” the company said in a statement posted on its website that also expressed condolences to his family on behalf of Lukoil’s “thousands of employees.”
Maganov’s unexplained fall is at least the sixth fatal incident this year involving high-profile Russian oil and gas executives whose lives ended in gory or murky circumstances.
Lukoil CEO dies in mysterious fall from Moscow hospital window (msn.com)
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45 shall return.
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Over 10,000 govt docs without classified markings were seized from Mar-a-Lago, DOJ says
In addition to troves of information marked "secret" and "top secret," the FBI's search of former President Donald Trump's Florida home turned up over 10,000 U.S. government documents and photographs without classification markings, a newly unsealed Justice Department inventory of the seized items shows.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/10000-government-docs-classified-markings-seized-trumps-mar-lago-doj-s-rcna46064
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Arrest this puke already...if only they knew where he was.
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They have nothing.
WASHINGTON (AP) — Along with highly classified government documents, the FBI agents who searched former President Donald Trump’s Florida estate found dozens of empty folders marked classified but with nothing inside and no explanation of what might have been there, according to a more detailed inventory of the seized material made public on Friday.
The agents also found more than 10,000 other government documents kept by Trump with no classification marked.
The inventory compiled by the Justice Department reveals in general terms the contents of 33 boxes and containers taken from Trump’s office and a storage room at Mar-a-Lago during the Aug. 8 search. Though the inventory does not describe the content of the documents, it shows the extent to which classified information — including material at the top-secret level — was stashed in boxes at the home and mixed among newspapers, magazines, clothing and other personal items.
And the empty folders raise the question of whether the government has recovered all of the classified papers that Trump kept after leaving the White House.
The inventory makes clear for the first time the volume of unclassified government documents at the home even though presidential records were to have been turned over to the National Archives and Records Administration. The Archives had tried unsuccessfully for months to secure their return from Trump and then contacted the FBI after locating classified information in a batch of 15 boxes it received in January.
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Trump documents probe: Judge appears open to special master
A timeline of the investigation into Trump's Mar-a-Lago docs
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The Justice Department has said there was no secure space at Mar-a-Lago for sensitive government secrets, and has opened a criminal investigation focused on their retention there and on what it says were efforts in the past several months to obstruct the probe. It is also investigating potential violations of a law that criminalizes the mutilation or concealment of government records, classified or not.
Lawyers for Trump did not immediately return an email seeking comment Friday. Trump spokesman Taylor Budowich asserted that the FBI search was a “SMASH AND GRAB” — though the Justice Department had received court-authorized permission to search specific locations in the home.
The inventory was released as the Justice Department undertakes its criminal investigation, as intelligence agencies assess any risk to national security caused by mishandling of classified information and as a judge weighs whether to appoint a special master — essentially an outside legal expert — to review the records.
The inventory had been filed earlier under seal, but the Justice Department had said that given the “extraordinary circumstances,” it did not object to making it public. Trump himself has previously called for the disclosure of documents related to the search. U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon said on Thursday that she planned to unseal the inventory and did so on Friday.
All told, the inventory shows, the FBI seized more than 100 documents with classification markings in August, including 18 marked top secret, 54 secret and 31 confidential. The FBI had identified 184 documents marked as classified in 15 boxes recovered by the Archives in January, and received additional classified documents in a single Redweld envelope during a June visit to Mar-a-Lago.
The Justice Department has said that it searched the property in August after developing evidence that documents were likely “concealed and removed” from the storage room as part of an effort to obstruct its probe.
The court filings have not offered an explanation for why Trump had kept the classified documents, and why he and his representatives did not return them when requested.
The inventory shows that 48 empty folders with classified banners were taken either from the storage room or office, along with additional empty folders labeled as “Return to Staff Secretary” or military aide.
It is not clear from the inventory list what might have happened to any of the documents that apparently had been inside.
Separately Friday, the Justice Department said in a court filing that it had reviewed the records seized during the recent search and had segregated those with classified markings to ensure that they were being stored according to proper protocol and procedure.
“The seized materials will continue to be used to further the government’s investigation, and the investigative team will continue to use and evaluate the seized materials as it takes further investigative steps, such as through additional witness interviews and grand jury practice,” the department said.
It added that “additional evidence pertaining to the seized items,” including the manner in which they were stored, “will inform the government’s investigation.”
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WASHINGTON (AP) — A House committee seeking financial records from former President Donald Trump has reached an agreement that ends litigation on the matter and requires an accounting firm to turn over some of the material, the panel's leader announced Thursday.
The long-running case began in April 2019, when the House Committee on Oversight and Reform first subpoenaed a wealth of records from Trump’s then-accounting firm, Mazars USA. The committee cited testimony from Trump's former attorney, Michael Cohen, that it said raised questions about the president's representation of his financial affairs when it came to seeking loans and paying taxes.
Under the agreement, Trump has agreed to end his legal challenges to the subpoena and Mazars USA has agreed to produce responsive documents to the committee as expeditiously as possible, said Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., who heads the committee.
“After numerous court victories, I am pleased that my committee has now reached an agreement to obtain key financial documents that former President Trump fought for years to hide from Congress,” Maloney said.
Trump is facing investigations on several fronts, including the storage of top-secret government information discovered at Trump's Mar-a-Lago home and whether the former president's team criminally obstructed the inquiry. In Georgia, prosecutors are investigating whether he and allies illegally tried to interfere in the 2020 presidential election. Meanwhile, congressional committees are following through on investigations that began when he was president.
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The settlement over Mazars follows a July decision by a federal appeals court in Washington that narrowed what records Congress is entitled to obtain. The court said the committee should be given records pertinent to financial ties between foreign countries and Trump or any of his businesses for 2017-18.
The appeals court also ordered Mazars to turn over documents between November 2016 and 2018 relating to the Trump company that held the lease granted by the federal government for the former Trump International Hotel, located between the White House and the Capitol.
In the decision, the court said Trump's financial records would “advance the Committee’s consideration of ethics reform legislation across all three of its investigative tracks,” including on presidential ethics and conflicts of interest, presidential financial disclosures, and presidential adherence to Constitutional safeguards against foreign interference and undue influence.
The House investigation dates February 2019, when Trump's former personal attorney, Cohen, testified to the committee that Trump had a history of misrepresenting the value of assets to gain favorable loan terms and tax benefits.
Cohen served time in federal prison after pleading guilty in 2018 to tax crimes, lying to Congress and campaign finance violations, some of which involved his role in orchestrating payments to two women to keep them from talking about alleged affairs with Trump.
But his testimony prompted the committee to seek key financial documents from Mazars, and in April 2019, the committee issued a subpoena to Mazars seeking four targeted categories of documents.
The following month, Trump sued to prevent Mazars from complying with the subpoena. The case has been winding its way through the court system since.
Mazars earlier this year said it had cut ties with Trump and warned that financial statements the firm had prepared for Trump “should no longer be relied upon” by anyone doing business with him.
Another House committee, the House Ways and Means Committee, has been seeking Trump's tax returns and waging its own litigation. In that case, a three-judge appellate court panel agreed last month with a lower court's decision in favor of Congress and that the Treasury Department should provide the tax returns to the committee.
The Justice Department, under the Trump administration, had defended a decision by then-Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin to withhold the tax returns from Congress. Mnuchin argued that he could withhold the documents because he concluded they were being sought by Democrats for partisan reasons. A lawsuit ensued.
After Biden took office, the committee renewed the request, seeking Trump’s tax returns and additional information from 2015-2020. The White House took the position that the request was a valid one and that the Treasury Department had no choice but to comply. Trump then attempted to halt the handover in court.
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At least we know your MSG GAs are getting used since we saw them on trumps floor next to the top secret SCI docs. Not sure if the Camden $1100s were on the floor.