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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451
    edited August 2022
    so if the hunter biden laptop story was election interference costing trump the election, the comey announcement cost hillary the election and she should be installed as president. lol

    Didn't Fox News and / or the NYP (or other RW media outlets) decline to run w/ the Biden laptop story because the sourcing was flimsy, or worse? 

    Am I misremembering that or do I have the timing wrong? 
  • I don't really know. I didn't really follow it as I thought it was just another guiliani brain collapse. 
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451
    edited August 2022
    Are there any polls to support the statement that this is what the majority of America believes? 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    Haha.  You're funny.  What makes you think 51% of America thinks this?  Is it just negativity or pure cynicism?
  • it's really quite something how some can view things so incredibly opposite. like the mueller report. it was either damning or exonerating. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    so if the hunter biden laptop story was election interference costing trump the election, the comey announcement cost hillary the election and she should be installed as president. lol

    Didn't Fox News and / or the NYP (or other RW media outlets) decline to run w/ the Biden laptop story because the sourcing was flimsy, or worse? 

    Am I misremembering that or do I have the timing wrong? 
    The NYP wouldn’t share what they allegedly had as it related to the Hunter Biden laptop contents with other news outlets like the NYT and WaPo who wanted to track down the provenance of said contents. As such, they wouldn’t take a Rupert Murdick sources word for it and run with any stories. And they reported on the allegations but that was it. As we know, the possession of and the provenance of the contents is highly suspect. But don’t worry, Bull Durham is drawing up indictments as we type and Hunter will be going to prison very soon.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    it's really quite something how some can view things so incredibly opposite. like the mueller report. it was either damning or exonerating. 
    The Mueller report was only exonerating to people who believed Bill Barr's lies about it though. Imagine if his bullshit memo didn't come out first and create a much more friendly narrative for Trump...
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    From the WaPo letters to the editor. And some said it couldn’t happen here.

    Fascism is not a coherent body of ideas, per say, but an irrationalist expression of toxic masculinity that emerges in a time of crisis, appealing to a perceived sense of grievance among an historically privileged group. It is always backwards looking, trying to restore an idealized past (Ancient Rome, Teutonic Germany, America in the 50’s.) It is totalitarian to the core and hostile to urban culture (Trump officials railed against modern “cosmopolitans,” just like the Nazis did…)., Fascism is always an expression of the culture it idealizes, so it will necessarily vary from country to country. Catholic in Spain; Lutheran in Germany; and in America, Evangelical. Fascists demonize the State and gaslight their victims. Finally, they seize power by generating a contrived crisis, then scapegoating the innocent and the helpless. 

    This describes the modern day Republican Party perfectly, and it is high time for Liberals in this country to realize that for better or worse, their Republican friends and relations (if they still have any) aren’t misguided in their beliefs. They are not confused about anything and it is time to stop infantilizing them. 

    They are supporting Fascism. That makes them Fascists.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451
    “When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in a flag & carrying a cross.”




  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,637
    mrussel1 said:
    Haha.  You're funny.  What makes you think 51% of America thinks this?  Is it just negativity or pure cynicism?


    Ok I'll modify...51% of the ones willing to die for their man.

    Us libs will just try to quietly fit in when the 1st amendment is replaced with the Trump is great and is our forever ruler amendment 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    mrussel1 said:
    Haha.  You're funny.  What makes you think 51% of America thinks this?  Is it just negativity or pure cynicism?


    Ok I'll modify...51% of the ones willing to die for their man.

    Us libs will just try to quietly fit in when the 1st amendment is replaced with the Trump is great and is our forever ruler amendment 
    Yeah, I don't think so. 
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,637
    So the esteemed senator from South Carolina was wrong, there would not be riots in the streets? 
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451
    So the esteemed senator from South Carolina was wrong, there would not be riots in the streets? 

    Has trump been indicted? 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    So the esteemed senator from South Carolina was wrong, there would not be riots in the streets? 
    He's carrying Trump's talking points because Trump has pictures or some other dirt on him.  It's so obvious. 
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451

    If they have reason to prosecute the guy, err on the side of the law. 

    Living in fear of how his base might react is asinine. I'm starting to wonder how some people get out of bed every morning. 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    mrussel1 said:
    So the esteemed senator from South Carolina was wrong, there would not be riots in the streets? 
    He's carrying Trump's talking points because Trump has pictures or some other dirt on him.  It's so obvious. 
    Big time....Graham is terrified of whatever tRump has. My guess is that tRump will burn him at some point anyway which will be fucking hilarious.
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,637
    mrussel1 said:
    So the esteemed senator from South Carolina was wrong, there would not be riots in the streets? 
    He's carrying Trump's talking points because Trump has pictures or some other dirt on him.  It's so obvious. 

    Maybe the dirt is the threat of violence against poor old Lindsay,  just a simple man from Seneca.  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    mrussel1 said:
    So the esteemed senator from South Carolina was wrong, there would not be riots in the streets? 
    He's carrying Trump's talking points because Trump has pictures or some other dirt on him.  It's so obvious. 

    Maybe the dirt is the threat of violence against poor old Lindsay,  just a simple man from Seneca.  
    Or maybe it was Lindsey Flimsey flip flop Faloozy standing and peeing on that bed in Moscow?
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451
    mrussel1 said:
    So the esteemed senator from South Carolina was wrong, there would not be riots in the streets? 
    He's carrying Trump's talking points because Trump has pictures or some other dirt on him.  It's so obvious. 

    Maybe the dirt is the threat of violence against poor old Lindsay,  just a simple man from Seneca.  
    Why do you give Graham the benefit of the doubt? 

    Why assume the best of people who have proven time and again that they don't act in good faith? 
  • this "dirt on graham" thing is kind of funny. people assume he's not just a snake who wants to keep his cash cow happy? many/most of those that piss off trump end up getting primaried/lose their next election. I doubt it's anything more than that. 

    graham will turn on him when he's comfortable that trump's base no longer matters. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    this "dirt on graham" thing is kind of funny. people assume he's not just a snake who wants to keep his cash cow happy? many/most of those that piss off trump end up getting primaried/lose their next election. I doubt it's anything more than that. 

    graham will turn on him when he's comfortable that trump's base no longer matters. 
    I think Graham is gay and if he is outed, he's done in SC.  
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,982
    edited August 2022
    sure, but doesn't mean trump has that dirt on him. sometimes I think people intentionally turn real politics into some type of primetime drama series. 

    graham's been around forever. trump has been around for a heartbeat. why would trump have that dirt and not someone else?
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  • mrussel1 said:
    this "dirt on graham" thing is kind of funny. people assume he's not just a snake who wants to keep his cash cow happy? many/most of those that piss off trump end up getting primaried/lose their next election. I doubt it's anything more than that. 

    graham will turn on him when he's comfortable that trump's base no longer matters. 
    I think Graham is gay and if he is outed, he's done in SC.  
    i don't care if he is gay or not. i care about him being a hypocrite.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    I don’t care if Lindsey Flimsey Flip Flop Faloozy is gay or not and wished that if he is, he could be comfortable being who he is and not have to hide it or pretend to be someone he’s not. He’d be accepted for who he is in the dem party but not for his views.

    POOTWH grew up with and learned from the dirtiest of the dirtiest tricksters, Roger Dodger Stoned and Cohn. If catch and kill isn’t an indication then I’m sure Putin on the ritz has lent a hand. It was common practice in the Cold War days to try and compromise western targets for leverage via blackmail and in the hopes of having them turn over or switch sides for fear of being exposed. If you think that shit stopped when Putin on the ritz burst onto the scene, you’re sadly mistaken. How many times has Lindsey Flimsey Flip Flop Faloozy and Moscow Mitchy Baby visited any former Soviet Union nations or satellite countries from say 1989 on? To think there may not be compromising dirt on them is to believe in the tooth fairy, particularly with the “outrage” of comet pizza, Epstein, and Coconut Grove. Remember, everything is a projection. These guys are just as perverted but closeted better than anyone.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    Why would POOTWH rip up top secret classified documents? What was the content? What could he have read in a top secret document that would make him rip it up? Could it be “Pee tape, exists, has been viewed, Senators, Kentucky, Georgia?”
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    Q. How did top secret documents get inside your desk, located inside your office located inside your club Mar-I-Lieo?

    A. Ummmm, I dunno, it was the hamberdergaler? Little guy, striped suit, masked eyes, fedora? No?
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  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,055
    I don't know, he just FEELS guilty to me...


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  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,055
    I'd check Trump Tower and Bedminister and that POS hotel in Vegas, too.

    He got that shit spread out all over.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,538
    So when does he give the orders for the cultists to take it to the streets!
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