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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    If the Democratic party is really so fragile that it implodes over the activism of four members, then maybe it deserves to fail. If the voters can't tell the difference between comments made by individual party members and party policy, then that says a lot, too. 
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    OnWis97 said:
    ikiT said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Trump is what Trump is.

    This isn't even about him anymore.  He is 100% reflective of the dominant party and, frankly, is a reflection of what we are.  That it's even possible (and, come on, it's probable) that he's going to win again, is all you need to know about America.  

    It's not about Trump.  It's about us.
    Defeatist NONSENSE.  This is ALL ABOUT HIM.  He's a piece of shit.
    He is absolutely a piece of shit.

    But it says something about us that he is our president.  And even more that he's probably going to be re-elected.  He reflects America more than we want to admit.  
    what actual facts are you basing that on?
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    he gonna get stomped yo
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    ikiT said:
    OnWis97 said:
    ikiT said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Trump is what Trump is.

    This isn't even about him anymore.  He is 100% reflective of the dominant party and, frankly, is a reflection of what we are.  That it's even possible (and, come on, it's probable) that he's going to win again, is all you need to know about America.  

    It's not about Trump.  It's about us.
    Defeatist NONSENSE.  This is ALL ABOUT HIM.  He's a piece of shit.
    He is absolutely a piece of shit.

    But it says something about us that he is our president.  And even more that he's probably going to be re-elected.  He reflects America more than we want to admit.  
    what actual facts are you basing that on?
    He has none. The facts are he's got big problems in all the states that magically swung his way in '16
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,358
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    OnWis97 said:
    ikiT said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Trump is what Trump is.

    This isn't even about him anymore.  He is 100% reflective of the dominant party and, frankly, is a reflection of what we are.  That it's even possible (and, come on, it's probable) that he's going to win again, is all you need to know about America.  

    It's not about Trump.  It's about us.
    Defeatist NONSENSE.  This is ALL ABOUT HIM.  He's a piece of shit.
    He is absolutely a piece of shit.

    But it says something about us that he is our president.  And even more that he's probably going to be re-elected.  He reflects America more than we want to admit.  
    Haha. You gotta stop it with this "he's probably going to be re-elected" nonsense. There's no metric to show that. If anything, he's more likely than most other incumbents to lose re-election.The fact that this is the case with the economy the way it is speaks to how severely disliked he is among most Americans. 

    He has one the lowest job approvals in recorded history. But, more importantly:
    He's underwater big time in the states he needs to win: 
    https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump/
    -3 net approval in Florida
    -9 net approval in Pennsylvania
    -15 net approval in Michigan
    -7 net approval in Ohio
    -14 net approval in Wisconsin
    -3 net approval in South Carolina
    Heck, Texas and Georgia might even be in play at this point. 
    If the economy is still reveling then he gets re-elected, yes.
    That is a big if at this point...and if the election was held today he'd probably lose. Those numbers above are fucking horrible for him. 
    The fed is going to lower interest rates and another boom will happen.

    He was not the popular vote last time but he won.

    I just don't see anyone beating him at this point.
  • CM189191
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,956


    Falling down,...not staying down
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    OnWis97 said:
    ikiT said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Trump is what Trump is.

    This isn't even about him anymore.  He is 100% reflective of the dominant party and, frankly, is a reflection of what we are.  That it's even possible (and, come on, it's probable) that he's going to win again, is all you need to know about America.  

    It's not about Trump.  It's about us.
    Defeatist NONSENSE.  This is ALL ABOUT HIM.  He's a piece of shit.
    He is absolutely a piece of shit.

    But it says something about us that he is our president.  And even more that he's probably going to be re-elected.  He reflects America more than we want to admit.  
    Haha. You gotta stop it with this "he's probably going to be re-elected" nonsense. There's no metric to show that. If anything, he's more likely than most other incumbents to lose re-election.The fact that this is the case with the economy the way it is speaks to how severely disliked he is among most Americans. 

    He has one the lowest job approvals in recorded history. But, more importantly:
    He's underwater big time in the states he needs to win: 
    https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump/
    -3 net approval in Florida
    -9 net approval in Pennsylvania
    -15 net approval in Michigan
    -7 net approval in Ohio
    -14 net approval in Wisconsin
    -3 net approval in South Carolina
    Heck, Texas and Georgia might even be in play at this point. 
    If the economy is still reveling then he gets re-elected, yes.
    That is a big if at this point...and if the election was held today he'd probably lose. Those numbers above are fucking horrible for him. 
    The fed is going to lower interest rates and another boom will happen.

    He was not the popular vote last time but he won.

    I just don't see anyone beating him at this point.
    Look at his approvals in those swing states, dude. '16 doesn't matter because he's not going to run against one of the worst nominees in history again. People are tired of him at this point.

    Also, don't be so sure the fed is going to save him. It doesn't make sense to cut rates right now and it will bite him (and, thus us) in the ass:
    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/el-erian-federal-reserve-rate-cut-complex-124405962.html

    • The more the central bank does now, the less room it will have to cut later if domestic economic momentum wanes. (Remember, the current US economic expansion is already an unusually long one, having also set a new record less month.)

    • The greater the policy easing, the stronger the signal to investors and traders to expand their risk appetite even more – and this at a time when several indicators of excessive risk-taking are already flashing yellow if not red.

    • With easing unlikely to have much beneficial economic effects, corporate and economic fundamentals will lag further already-elevated asset prices, thereby accentuating threats of future financial instability that could cause economic harm.

    • The more the Fed stimulates when the economy is in a good place, the more it will be seen as succumbing to undue pressures from markets and the White House. This could damage its credibility and undermine the effectiveness of its future policy guidance.

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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,992
    edited July 2019
    oftenreading said:
    If the Democratic party is really so fragile that it implodes over the activism of four members, then maybe it deserves to fail. If the voters can't tell the difference between comments made by individual party members and party policy, then that says a lot, too. 
    Many can't and I attribute some of the "credit" to the propaganda masters at Fox News (and all the conservative outlets that follow their lead). I watch Hannity from time to time (I like him as a performance artist more than I do as a political commentator) and he's constantly attributing comments made by AOC (or any "rouge" democrat) to the entire party. He'd have you believe that AOC's "squad" has taken over the Democratic Party and are calling the shots. Of course that's nonsense, but he gets that ball rolling, then all the online or lesser-known conservative commentators follow his lead (because the Republicans are a pretty united front when it comes to propaganda), and before you know it, there's people that think that it's the stance of the Democratic Party that the world will end in 12 years because of cows farting. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    edited July 2019
    oftenreading said:
    If the Democratic party is really so fragile that it implodes over the activism of four members, then maybe it deserves to fail. If the voters can't tell the difference between comments made by individual party members and party policy, then that says a lot, too. 
    We must have different definitions of imploding.  That word sounds quite final.  I'd call it more of a spat.  
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mrussel1 said:
    oftenreading said:
    If the Democratic party is really so fragile that it implodes over the activism of four members, then maybe it deserves to fail. If the voters can't tell the difference between comments made by individual party members and party policy, then that says a lot, too. 
    We must have different definitions of imploding.  That word sounds quite final.  I'd call it more of a spat.  
    That’s kind of my point. People are talking like the sky is falling with this infighting. I don’t believe it is, but if it is, then the party has far more problems than with the “squad” that it needs to address. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,662
    edited July 2019
    oftenreading said:
    mrussel1 said:
    oftenreading said:
    If the Democratic party is really so fragile that it implodes over the activism of four members, then maybe it deserves to fail. If the voters can't tell the difference between comments made by individual party members and party policy, then that says a lot, too. 
    We must have different definitions of imploding.  That word sounds quite final.  I'd call it more of a spat.  
    That’s kind of my point. People are talking like the sky is falling with this infighting. I don’t believe it is, but if it is, then the party has far more problems than with the “squad” that it needs to address. 
    The right is simply doing a bang up job of making it seem like it is, and far too many people are willing to let that work on them.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    PJ_Soul said:
    oftenreading said:
    mrussel1 said:
    oftenreading said:
    If the Democratic party is really so fragile that it implodes over the activism of four members, then maybe it deserves to fail. If the voters can't tell the difference between comments made by individual party members and party policy, then that says a lot, too. 
    We must have different definitions of imploding.  That word sounds quite final.  I'd call it more of a spat.  
    That’s kind of my point. People are talking like the sky is falling with this infighting. I don’t believe it is, but if it is, then the party has far more problems than with the “squad” that it needs to address. 
    The right is simply doing a bang up job of making it seem like it is, and far too many people are willing to let that work on them.
    That's what they do best. They had Nancy Pelosi as their boogeyman for decades. Now they've got a gang of four boogeywomen to choose from.
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    The more mud that is thrown at Trump the more he likes it.  It was a poster on here (sorry if I cannot remember who) said never go mud wrestling with a pig, the pig enjoys it...in this case, Trump enjoys it...
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    Meltdown99 said:
    The more mud that is thrown at Trump the more he likes it.  It was a poster on here (sorry if I cannot remember who) said never go mud wrestling with a pig, the pig enjoys it...in this case, Trump enjoys it...
    You know who don't like it? White suburban women...
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,956
    The Juggler said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    The more mud that is thrown at Trump the more he likes it.  It was a poster on here (sorry if I cannot remember who) said never go mud wrestling with a pig, the pig enjoys it...in this case, Trump enjoys it...
    You know who don't like it? White suburban women...
    Isn't that like...a big voting bloc?

    Falling down,...not staying down
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Kat said:
    The Juggler said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    The more mud that is thrown at Trump the more he likes it.  It was a poster on here (sorry if I cannot remember who) said never go mud wrestling with a pig, the pig enjoys it...in this case, Trump enjoys it...
    You know who don't like it? White suburban women...
    Isn't that like...a big voting bloc?

    Trump isn't sure women should vote, to be fair.  
  • mickeyrat
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    you guys should try this.....


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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    About sums it up, wouldn’t you say?


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  • josevolution
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    About sums it up, wouldn’t you say?


    It totally does , the Baffoon is a hate filled vile human racist if that isn’t clear now I’m not sure it will ever be !
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