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  • yeah, I know. and if congress won't enforce it, what's the fucking point. 
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,097
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-golf-course-covid-aid-scotland_n_61c7f8b2e4b0bb04a630910a

    Donald Trump’s Scottish golf courses claimed nearly $4 million in British government aid in 2020 while he was serving as U.S. president, according to newly released financial filings.

    Trump’s failing operations collected the COVID-19 relief during the pandemic, The Independent reported, even though the U.S. Constitution’s emoluments clause prohibits federal officials from accepting payments from foreign governments.


    the emoluments clause seems to be the flimsiest piece of legislation ever introduced. 
    it isnt legislation

    jesus christ. sorry. "provision". better?

    clause. provides for a political solution . as spelled out in the constitution. it applies to all executive  branch elected or appointed officials...
    requires the political will of the legislative branch in whole to enforce.



    It should have been a reason for impeachment early on. Most of the dems were just ho hum about it and republicans acted like since he was a businessman he could just carry on with that career at the same time. Trump voters laugh about it while getting their undies in a bunch about Hunter Biden and China. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,637
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-golf-course-covid-aid-scotland_n_61c7f8b2e4b0bb04a630910a

    Donald Trump’s Scottish golf courses claimed nearly $4 million in British government aid in 2020 while he was serving as U.S. president, according to newly released financial filings.

    Trump’s failing operations collected the COVID-19 relief during the pandemic, The Independent reported, even though the U.S. Constitution’s emoluments clause prohibits federal officials from accepting payments from foreign governments.


    the emoluments clause seems to be the flimsiest piece of legislation ever introduced. 
    it isnt legislation

    jesus christ. sorry. "provision". better?

    clause. provides for a political solution . as spelled out in the constitution. it applies to all executive  branch elected or appointed officials...
    requires the political will of the legislative branch in whole to enforce.



    It should have been a reason for impeachment early on. Most of the dems were just ho hum about it and republicans acted like since he was a businessman he could just carry on with that career at the same time. Trump voters laugh about it while getting their undies in a bunch about Hunter Biden and China. 
    I agree.

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  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,055
    Liz seems serious.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,097
    edited January 2022
    I'm skeptical at this point that anything will come of it, just from the overall lack of accountability with Trump, but at least it's something:

    NEW YORK (AP) — The office of New York’s attorney general confirmed for the first time Monday that it had subpoenaed former President Donald Trump and his two eldest children, Ivanka and Donald Trump Jr., demanding their testimony in an investigation into the family’s business practices.

    In a court filing, lawyers for Attorney General Letitia James said they are seeking the Trumps’ testimony and documents as part of a yearslong civil probe involving matters including “the valuation of properties owned or controlled” by Trump and his company.

    Monday’s filing was the first public disclosure that investigators scrutinizing the former president’s dealings were also seeking information from Ivanka Trump and Donald Trump Jr., both trusted allies of their father who’ve been executives in his family’s Trump Organization.

    Last month, it was reported that James’ office had requested Trump sit for a deposition.

    James, a Democrat, has spent more than two years looking at whether the Trump Organization misled banks or tax officials about the value of assets — inflating them to gain favorable loan terms or minimizing them to reap tax savings.

    The Trumps have indicated they will fight the subpoenas and are expected to file court papers through their lawyers seeking to have them thrown out. A similar legal fight played out last year after James’ office subpoenaed the testimony of another Trump son, Eric Trump.

    Trump sued James in federal court last month, seeking to put an end to her investigation. Trump, in the lawsuit, claimed that James had violated his constitutional rights in a “thinly-veiled effort to publicly malign Trump and his associates.”

    A state court judge who handled that dispute agreed Monday to entertain arguments over the recent subpoenas.

    Messages seeking comment were left Monday with the Trumps’ lawyers and the Trump Organization. A message seeking comment was also left with the attorney general’s office.

    In the past, the Republican ex-president has decried James’ investigation as part of a “witch hunt” along with a parallel criminal probe being run by the Manhattan district attorney’s office.

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    https://apnews.com/article/business-new-york-donald-trump-subpoenas-ivanka-trump-072e02a5bf16faa89a7f496d16536893
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  • From Letter From an American. Seems POOTWH wasn't as tough on Putin on the Ritz as he'd have you believe. I mean, why arrest someone who might have been involved in, "Russia if you're listening................."

    Today, Russian cybersecurity expert Vladislav Klyushin appeared in a U.S. court (over Zoom) to face charges of securities fraud. Klyushin was arrested in March 2021 in Switzerland, where he was skiing, and has been extradited to the U.S. He is allegedly connected to Russian cyberattacks against the U.S. and our allies, including the interference in the 2016 election. According to Christopher Krebs, the former head of the U.S. Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, if Klyushin flips, he might be able to tell the intelligence community a lot about that election. Even if he doesn’t flip, though, his arrest and possible conviction sends “a strong signal to others like him that they don’t have a lot of freedom of movement outside Russia,” evidence of the isolation Putin’s rule is creating. 


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    Please do not forget to post only portions of articles and link to the rest. We respect copyrights and we do not want additional contacts from outlets about their copyrighted material being fully posted. Thank you. 
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,097
    Kat said:
    Please do not forget to post only portions of articles and link to the rest. We respect copyrights and we do not want additional contacts from outlets about their copyrighted material being fully posted. Thank you. 

    Sorry, my bad.
  • I didn't know this was a thing ^^^
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  • I didn't know this was a thing ^^^
    i didn't either. back in the day i used to post full articles. 

    can we just post a link to the page instead of a portion of the article and then the link?
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  • I didn't know this was a thing ^^^
    i didn't either. back in the day i used to post full articles. 

    can we just post a link to the page instead of a portion of the article and then the link?
    It started with paywalling when folks would post just the link and folks without an account couldn't read it. Posting full articles became rampant and I suppose 10C had been contacted about it. Its a drag for sure but I understand the whys from all sides. And to think I used to have the NYT delivered 7 days a week.
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  • lol orange menace canceled his jan 6 presser at mar-a-lago.

    i wonder if he was afraid people were being sent to arrest him?
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    These Hannity texts are funny. Fucking hypocritical, disingenuous bastards. They all know Trump is crazy yet act totally different when in front of a camera. All of them. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,682
    These Hannity texts are funny. Fucking hypocritical, disingenuous bastards. They all know Trump is crazy yet act totally different when in front of a camera. All of them. 
    It’s the grift
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,309
    lol orange menace canceled his jan 6 presser at mar-a-lago.

    i wonder if he was afraid people were being sent to arrest him?
    I wasn't aware he was going to do that but I'm not surprised. What a colossal piece of shit.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    lol orange menace canceled his jan 6 presser at mar-a-lago.

    i wonder if he was afraid people were being sent to arrest him?
    I wasn't aware he was going to do that but I'm not surprised. What a colossal piece of shit.
    Weird thing is he planned a rally in Arizona instead the following Saturday. I'm assuming it will be near Phoenix. High likelihood of a Cardinals playoff game at the same time. 
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  • how awesome would it be for him to be on stage in phoenix and someone walk up and serve him with legal papers. he is now being sued by 3 more capitol police officers for his role in inciting jan 6.
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  • Sounds just like when POOTWH was POTUS, doesn't it? How this idiot has the following and loyalty he does is unbelievable. So, what is it? A safe full of tapes? How else do you explain the feality? The blind loyalty of all of the playas like Lindsey Flimsy Flip Flop Faloozy (speaking of which, haven't heard much of a peep out of him of late), Moscow Mitchy Baby, Gym Jordan, Matt Getts Off, Hannity, Fucker Carlson, Rudy Ghouliani, et. al? Any chance any of these clowns traveled to Moscow or other points within russia, russia, russia or former Soviet Bloc states between say, 2013 and 2020? Any chance? How else do you explain the backing of such crass stupidity?

    According to a person familiar with the matter, Trump wanted to make a scene and deride reporters at the event but had been told repeatedly by his advisers that it could be the kind of coverage he doesn’t want. Trump also did not know exactly what he wanted his message to be, and his team was taken aback by how many reporters were planning on attending, according to the person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about the matter.

    “It was going to be awful, awful press,” a Trump adviser said. The adviser, who was not authorized to speak publicly about deliberations surrounding the event, said Trump had originally announced the news conference on a lark and without a plan in place.

    A Trump spokesman did not respond to a request for comment.

    Trump cancels Jan. 6 news conference at Mar-a-Lago, blames news media and House committee investigating attack on Capitol - The Washington Post

    How's everyone coping without incandescent light bulbs and low flow shower heads and toilets?

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  • Country Thunder boyz. Hurry! Hotel rooms still available! But time is running out! But if you book now....................

    Former President Donald J. Trump will hold a rally in Arizona in January, a political action committee called Save America that is affiliated with the 45th president announced Thursday.

    Trump will speak at 7 p.m. on Jan. 15 in Florence at the same location where the Country Thunder music festival is held. It will be his first rally appearance of 2022.

    Former President Donald Trump announces Arizona visit on Jan. 15 (azcentral.com)

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  • if people like hannity and others at fox news had this much access to trump, i wonder how many foreign leaders had the same access.
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  • if people like hannity and others at fox news had this much access to trump, i wonder how many foreign leaders had the same access.
    you know, when I was watching that clip, the thought occurred to me....why do MEDIA TALKING HEADS HAVE THE CELL NUMBER OF THE HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER? WTF. Shouldn't they have to go through a publicist or press sec or some freaking intern for that type of access?
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  • if people like hannity and others at fox news had this much access to trump, i wonder how many foreign leaders had the same access.
    you know, when I was watching that clip, the thought occurred to me....why do MEDIA TALKING HEADS HAVE THE CELL NUMBER OF THE HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER? WTF. Shouldn't they have to go through a publicist or press sec or some freaking intern for that type of access?
    i'd bet that only the loyal talking heads would have it. i am sure hannity has it so he can call trump and tell him how he is going to frame the narrative on his show and that way he and trump will be on the same page. it's disgusting.

    keep in mind hannity is not a journalist. he is just a mouthpiece for the gop.
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  • if people like hannity and others at fox news had this much access to trump, i wonder how many foreign leaders had the same access.
    you know, when I was watching that clip, the thought occurred to me....why do MEDIA TALKING HEADS HAVE THE CELL NUMBER OF THE HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER? WTF. Shouldn't they have to go through a publicist or press sec or some freaking intern for that type of access?
    i'd bet that only the loyal talking heads would have it. i am sure hannity has it so he can call trump and tell him how he is going to frame the narrative on his show and that way he and trump will be on the same page. it's disgusting.

    keep in mind hannity is not a journalist. he is just a mouthpiece for the gop.
    well of course he's not a journalist. but it's still crazy that congresspeople would just be so brazen as to give out their personal cell numbers to fox news hosts (or even if don lemon did, same thing). we live in a crazy fucking world. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,682
    if people like hannity and others at fox news had this much access to trump, i wonder how many foreign leaders had the same access.
    you know, when I was watching that clip, the thought occurred to me....why do MEDIA TALKING HEADS HAVE THE CELL NUMBER OF THE HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER? WTF. Shouldn't they have to go through a publicist or press sec or some freaking intern for that type of access?
    i'd bet that only the loyal talking heads would have it. i am sure hannity has it so he can call trump and tell him how he is going to frame the narrative on his show and that way he and trump will be on the same page. it's disgusting.

    keep in mind hannity is not a journalist. he is just a mouthpiece for the gop.
    well of course he's not a journalist. but it's still crazy that congresspeople would just be so brazen as to give out their personal cell numbers to fox news hosts (or even if don lemon did, same thing). we live in a crazy fucking world. 
    I think this is quite common.  I'm sure Joe and Mika have/had access to Hillary,  Pete,  etc.
  • mrussel1 said:
    if people like hannity and others at fox news had this much access to trump, i wonder how many foreign leaders had the same access.
    you know, when I was watching that clip, the thought occurred to me....why do MEDIA TALKING HEADS HAVE THE CELL NUMBER OF THE HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER? WTF. Shouldn't they have to go through a publicist or press sec or some freaking intern for that type of access?
    i'd bet that only the loyal talking heads would have it. i am sure hannity has it so he can call trump and tell him how he is going to frame the narrative on his show and that way he and trump will be on the same page. it's disgusting.

    keep in mind hannity is not a journalist. he is just a mouthpiece for the gop.
    well of course he's not a journalist. but it's still crazy that congresspeople would just be so brazen as to give out their personal cell numbers to fox news hosts (or even if don lemon did, same thing). we live in a crazy fucking world. 
    I think this is quite common.  I'm sure Joe and Mika have/had access to Hillary,  Pete,  etc.
    interesting. I would have thought that to be "unprofessional". 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,682
    mrussel1 said:
    if people like hannity and others at fox news had this much access to trump, i wonder how many foreign leaders had the same access.
    you know, when I was watching that clip, the thought occurred to me....why do MEDIA TALKING HEADS HAVE THE CELL NUMBER OF THE HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER? WTF. Shouldn't they have to go through a publicist or press sec or some freaking intern for that type of access?
    i'd bet that only the loyal talking heads would have it. i am sure hannity has it so he can call trump and tell him how he is going to frame the narrative on his show and that way he and trump will be on the same page. it's disgusting.

    keep in mind hannity is not a journalist. he is just a mouthpiece for the gop.
    well of course he's not a journalist. but it's still crazy that congresspeople would just be so brazen as to give out their personal cell numbers to fox news hosts (or even if don lemon did, same thing). we live in a crazy fucking world. 
    I think this is quite common.  I'm sure Joe and Mika have/had access to Hillary,  Pete,  etc.
    interesting. I would have thought that to be "unprofessional". 
    No doubt Hannity crossed the line into adviser. 
  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    mrussel1 said:
    if people like hannity and others at fox news had this much access to trump, i wonder how many foreign leaders had the same access.
    you know, when I was watching that clip, the thought occurred to me....why do MEDIA TALKING HEADS HAVE THE CELL NUMBER OF THE HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER? WTF. Shouldn't they have to go through a publicist or press sec or some freaking intern for that type of access?
    i'd bet that only the loyal talking heads would have it. i am sure hannity has it so he can call trump and tell him how he is going to frame the narrative on his show and that way he and trump will be on the same page. it's disgusting.

    keep in mind hannity is not a journalist. he is just a mouthpiece for the gop.
    well of course he's not a journalist. but it's still crazy that congresspeople would just be so brazen as to give out their personal cell numbers to fox news hosts (or even if don lemon did, same thing). we live in a crazy fucking world. 
    I think this is quite common.  I'm sure Joe and Mika have/had access to Hillary,  Pete,  etc.

    doubtful.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,309
    edited January 2022
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/06/politics/stephanie-grisham-trump-officials-meeting-cnntv/index.html?utm_term=link&utm_medium=social&utm_source=fbCNN&utm_content=2022-01-06T15:45:11&fbclid=IwAR020627hJasnFN7vQKrhC11fBVOGzkZeFnUB1s1om9k2qLlVtAdyTK7dEw

    This could be big....or it could be a giant pile of shit

    Grisham said she is personally hoping to "travel the country and talk to people who are believers like I once was" and "explain who (Trump) really is," also calling the former President a "master manipulator."


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    https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/06/politics/stephanie-grisham-trump-officials-meeting-cnntv/index.html?utm_term=link&utm_medium=social&utm_source=fbCNN&utm_content=2022-01-06T15:45:11&fbclid=IwAR020627hJasnFN7vQKrhC11fBVOGzkZeFnUB1s1om9k2qLlVtAdyTK7dEw

    This could be big....or it could be a giant pile of shit

    Grisham said she is personally hoping to "travel the country and talk to people who are believers like I once was" and "explain who (Trump) really is," also calling the former President a "master manipulator."



    She said that she did not know who specifically spoke with Trump on January 6 to try to get him to stop the violence, except that Melania Trump did not try and plead with her husband.
    "All I know about that day is he was in the dining room, gleefully watching on his TV, as he often did. 'Look at all of the people fighting for me,' hitting rewind, watching it again. That's what I know," Grisham said.

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