Donald Trump

HughFreakingDillon

mrussel1 said:

Christie still hospitalized. https://nypost.com/2020/10/07/chris-christie-remains-hospitalized-with-covid-19-in-new-jersey/

his fitness level is every covid's dream. 

mace1229

Those rumors floating about Trump resigning so Pence could pardon him are laughable. Some of the biggest fake news right there if you believe any of those sources.
Pence can't pardon Trump for a crime he hasn't been charged with yet. He can't just offer an open pardon for all future charges. If Pence loses the election that gives him just a few months to charge and pardon Trump. Can't happen. 

Meltdown99

Gern Blansten said:

https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1313645002245849089

I wish this to be true...

Let’s hope.  Prison would be better...

Meltdown99

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

Christie still hospitalized. https://nypost.com/2020/10/07/chris-christie-remains-hospitalized-with-covid-19-in-new-jersey/

his fitness level is every covid's dream. 

Lol.  I was thinking the same thing...

HughFreakingDillon

mace1229 said:

Those rumors floating about Trump resigning so Pence could pardon him are laughable. Some of the biggest fake news right there if you believe any of those sources.
Pence can't pardon Trump for a crime he hasn't been charged with yet. He can't just offer an open pardon for all future charges. If Pence loses the election that gives him just a few months to charge and pardon Trump. Can't happen. 

i agree with you about the rumours being nonsense, but about the pardon; i read an article some time ago during impeachment where there was a question over the pardon powers of the president; it isn't explicitly clear (if I'm remembering correctly) that they can't pardon him for future charges, as long as the charges stem from a crime committed prior to that pardon. 

Gern Blansten

mace1229 said:

Those rumors floating about Trump resigning so Pence could pardon him are laughable. Some of the biggest fake news right there if you believe any of those sources.
Pence can't pardon Trump for a crime he hasn't been charged with yet. He can't just offer an open pardon for all future charges. If Pence loses the election that gives him just a few months to charge and pardon Trump. Can't happen. 

I used to think that but I don't believe it is true...pretty sure Pence could pardon him 

HughFreakingDillon

didn't ford pardon nixon without any charges laid? and it would have been retroactive to any crimes committed against the US while in office?

mrussel1

HughFreakingDillon said:

didn't ford pardon nixon without any charges laid? and it would have been retroactive to any crimes committed against the US while in office?

Yes, but the Nixon crimes would be federal.  I would think anything laid at Trump's feet are state.  So I agree, the whole thing is nonsense. 

Gern Blansten

I guess I was thinking that Pence could pardon him for Wikileaks or Russian violations...just election shit.  Possibly emoluments violations, etc.

Gern Blansten

https://www.businessinsider.com/michael-cohen-book-trump-pardon-himself-if-he-loses-election-2020-9

Also....tRump could pardon himself it seems

Cohen wrote that he "knew better than anyone" that the reason Trump wanted to replace Berman "was so that while in office, he could arrange to be federally indicted" and then, "in the event he loses the election in November, he could then pardon himself, as he's long claimed to be his right."

"The reason behind that unprecedented and serpentine thinking was that Trump knows perfectly well that he's guilty of the same crimes that resulted in my conviction and incarceration," Cohen wrote.

Cohen pleaded guilty in August 2018 to eight counts of campaign-finance violations, tax fraud, and bank fraud as part of the Southern District of New York's investigation into illegal payments made during the 2016 campaign to the adult-film star Stormy Daniels. Three months later, Cohen also pleaded guilty to one count of lying to Congress as part of the special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 US election.

In his guilty plea, Cohen said he acted at the direction of and for the benefit of Trump. The president's former fixer also said he lied to Congress about the now defunct Trump Tower Moscow project to shield Trump from congressional or legal scrutiny.

MayDay10

gimmesometruth27 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

no way he resigns. no way. his narcissism and ego won't allow it. 

this right here.

i doubt the truthfulness of that tweet by the way. how can he carry on the campaign without those people? those are the ones that made him.

I dunno.  

While im not sure he is considering it.... I would be surprised if a lot of Republicans didnt want him to GTFO before November.  He is sinking a lot of down-ticket Republicans. 

Gern Blansten

The internal polling for tRump's campaign has to be just god awful....I would love to be a fly on the wall for those meetings

dignin

gimmesometruth27 said:

sorry, i do not know how to embed tweets without all of the code showing up :(

Just touch the share button on the tweet, it offers a copy option. Copy, then paste here. That's how I get it to work.

cutz

gimmesometruth27 said:

oh my lord. steve schmidt just gave trump the twitter beatdown of the decade. read the whole rant. i do not know why trump came for schmidt but i am glad he did, haha

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You’ve never beaten me at anything. This is our first dance. <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc^tfw">@realDonaldTrump&lt;/a>. Did you like <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/covita?src=hash&amp;amp;ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#covita</a>. <a href="https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln?ref_src=twsrc^tfw">@ProjectLincoln&lt;/a>. <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson?ref_src=twsrc^tfw">@TheRickWilson&lt;/a> <a href="https://twitter.com/stuartpstevens?ref_src=twsrc^tfw">@stuartpstevens&lt;/a> <a href="https://twitter.com/reedgalen?ref_src=twsrc^tfw">@reedgalen&lt;/a>. We are so much better at this than your team of crooks, wife beaters, degenerates,weirdos and losers. You are losing 1 <a href="https://t.co/w1E9ZvRaYc">https://t.co/w1E9ZvRaYc</a></p>&mdash; Steve Schmidt (@SteveSchmidtSES) <a href="

https://twitter.com/SteveSchmidtSES/status/1313869319818883072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

">October 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Beat down is right !

cutz

Kat said:

The trigger, in case anyone missed it.

https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1313833189631172608

Classic! 

But, sad in ways because it's true(Infecting staffers)

mace1229

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Those rumors floating about Trump resigning so Pence could pardon him are laughable. Some of the biggest fake news right there if you believe any of those sources.
Pence can't pardon Trump for a crime he hasn't been charged with yet. He can't just offer an open pardon for all future charges. If Pence loses the election that gives him just a few months to charge and pardon Trump. Can't happen. 

I used to think that but I don't believe it is true...pretty sure Pence could pardon him 

That seems crazy. And stupid. Wouldn't there have to be something to pardon in order to pardon something? Guess that par for the course with politics though.
Still about a 1% chance of Trump resigning though, and my estimate has a 1% margin of error

gimmesometruth27

Gern Blansten said:

The internal polling for tRump's campaign has to be just god awful....I would love to be a fly on the wall for those meetings

you really want to hear a wheezing trump yelling "FAKE POLLS!!!!!!!!!!!! wheeeeze FAKE POLLS!!!!!!!!!!" in his lonely quarantine room?

gimmesometruth27

dignin said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

sorry, i do not know how to embed tweets without all of the code showing up :(

Just touch the share button on the tweet, it offers a copy option. Copy, then paste here. That's how I get it to work.

i did that and that is how it turned out. stupid laptop...

gimmesometruth27

HughFreakingDillon said:

didn't ford pardon nixon without any charges laid? and it would have been retroactive to any crimes committed against the US while in office?

nixon was an "unindicted co-conspirator". not sure how you can be pardoned if not indicted. 

also, if you accept a pardon, don't you acknowledge committing the crime? or something like that?

darwinstheory

Looking ahead cautiously optimistically, will we get the pleasure of seeing 4'x8' signs reading 'TRUMP 2024' or 'TRUMP IS GONNA RISE AGAIN' beginning on or around November 4, 2020.

darwinstheory

I saw this yesterday as I was talking on the phone with a co-worker. He was awaiting his own test results after his own wife and daughter had recieved their positive Covid19 test results. 

Merkin Baller

https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1313936357803413505?s=21

HughFreakingDillon

gimmesometruth27 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

didn't ford pardon nixon without any charges laid? and it would have been retroactive to any crimes committed against the US while in office?

nixon was an "unindicted co-conspirator". not sure how you can be pardoned if not indicted. 

also, if you accept a pardon, don't you acknowledge committing the crime? or something like that?

from what i read (wikipedia LOL) nixon initially rejected the idea of a pardon, because, like trump, doesn't think he did anything wrong. 

OnWis97

darwinstheory said:

I saw this yesterday as I was talking on the phone with a co-worker. He was awaiting his own test results after his own wife and daughter had recieved their positive Covid19 test results. 

I know we're a bit different in America; self-centered, anti-collectivism, etc. but some of it, like what's pictured here is a direct result of an administration that's trying do downplay it for political gain (and it's not even going well for them...). As awful as everything about Trump is, this should be the last straw for everyone. His administration has not only messed up but they've willfully made it worse and they've turned a critical mass of the population into people like the driver of that vehicle.

HughFreakingDillon

OnWis97 said:

darwinstheory said:

I saw this yesterday as I was talking on the phone with a co-worker. He was awaiting his own test results after his own wife and daughter had recieved their positive Covid19 test results. 

I know we're a bit different in America; self-centered, anti-collectivism, etc. but some of it, like what's pictured here is a direct result of an administration that's trying do downplay it for political gain (and it's not even going well for them...). As awful as everything about Trump is, this should be the last straw for everyone. His administration has not only messed up but they've willfully made it worse and they've turned a critical mass of the population into people like the driver of that vehicle.

to be fair, conspiracy theorists in your (and any) country long predate trump. has he made it worse? yes, but not every idiot out there is a symptom of trump. 

ikiT

get that fucking phone away from him...Jesus.

eddiec

I doubt Trump would consider resigning. If he loses, he will just say the election was fraudulent and every single one of his followers will believe it...forever.

OnWis97

eddiec said:

I doubt Trump would consider resigning. If he loses, he will just say the election was fraudulent and every single one of his followers will believe it...forever.

And Barr will pretend to.  I won't believe Biden will become president until he's actually inaugurated.

HughFreakingDillon

trump has returned to the oval. what a selfish POS

Meltdown99

When Biden wins. They have to meet with Trump officials to transition power, is this correct?  If so, it will be a nightmare...