What the hell? ... This reminds me so much of those propaganda performances that China always did during the cultural revolution, with those little kids singing and dancing in their uniforms with their guns. So fucking weird! It doesn't even seem real.
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What the hell? ... This reminds me so much of those propaganda performances that China always did during the cultural revolution, with those little kids singing and dancing in their uniforms with their guns. So fucking weird! It doesn't even seem real.
Yeah it's in the same realm as that I suppose. But Trump ripping them off is Oh So Trump.
I will say this though about the media. I think they clearly have twisted Trump's words on the testing comments lately. I think it is clear that Trump is saying the US has more cases because we test more and that when he says if we didn't test we would have less reported cases. He is all about comparing to other countries. The media and late night comedians are disingenuous in claiming Trump thinks if we didn't test than there would be no cases.
I can't stand Trump but the media should do better. When they twist words to fit their narrative it just gives the right more to be angry about.
Which media are you seeing twisting the comments in this way? I have not seen the media conflate the two issues, when I look at the major media outlets. I've seen the media reporting that people are horrified at the suggestion to reduce testing to have "better numbers"; I haven't seen anyone reporting that Trump believes that if you stop testing the actual number of cases will go down.
"I told my people to slow down testing...."
Yeah, that one was last night and a stupid comment. The comments I am referring to are before.
and from before other shit FROM HIS OWN MOUTH, not spin, not misrepresenting. HIS WORDS.
If you listen to the video I posted around the 2:30 mark he clearly was saying that if you don't test then you don't have any cases. He was speaking of reported cases and not saying that no one would be sick (as Seth Myers contends). Even as dumb as Trump is anyone with a brain knows what he was referring to there if you look at the context. He was making the argument that other countries don't test as many people and that is why the US has more cases. I can't stand Trump but I also can't stand it when media/pundits attack him (or anyone) when that is not what was said in context. Actually, I don't there was any context missed. If you don't test you don't have confirmed cases. It hurts credibility of the media and makes it easier for the far right to point and say "well the liberal media lies too".
This is bad on so many levels.
1. That we have the most cases is irrelevant. We have the most deaths. By a ton. That’s why trump and the gop need to be exposed by the media. The testing is an effort to PREVENT DEATH. It is for certain not funny and trump should be impeached again for making jokes about life and death issues. The testing tells us who should be isolated so others don’t get infected and die a horrible death.
Yup, like his base cares about Venezuela? If they even know it exists as a country and not a planet?
This Bolton book is either all true or all lies. If it's classified than it's true. If he's lying, well then, it can't really be classified. It cannot be both.
Get ready for higher grocery costs and a housing construction slow down.
Do migrant farmers get H1B1s? That would surprise me. This will affect Inidans, Chinese and other white collar workers, I would guess. During the recession, many companies stopped sponsoring these. My former company did the same. It was considered risky to sponsor a lot of these while unemployment was 10%.
Get ready for higher grocery costs and a housing construction slow down.
Do migrant farmers get H1B1s? That would surprise me. This will affect Inidans, Chinese and other white collar workers, I would guess. During the recession, many companies stopped sponsoring these. My former company did the same. It was considered risky to sponsor a lot of these while unemployment was 10%.
I thought they fell under Hb2s which are included in the ban but those are construction and hospitality related, maybe? So construction but not farming. Confusing as hell but I guess Team Trump Treason is still trying to salvage his disastrous farm policy. I’m not sure I even referenced the construction visas properly. Its Monday.
Somebody needs to get on this fast and make sure it doesn't happen. If it does, the demonstrations of the last few weeks will look like a party at the soda shop on Happy Days.
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Get ready for higher grocery costs and a housing construction slow down.
Do migrant farmers get H1B1s? That would surprise me. This will affect Inidans, Chinese and other white collar workers, I would guess. During the recession, many companies stopped sponsoring these. My former company did the same. It was considered risky to sponsor a lot of these while unemployment was 10%.
I thought they fell under Hb2s which are included in the ban but those are construction and hospitality related, maybe? So construction but not farming. Confusing as hell but I guess Team Trump Treason is still trying to salvage his disastrous farm policy. I’m not sure I even referenced the construction visas properly. Its Monday.
how about..all of them.. I guess I just figured a good chunk of the migrant farmers were here illegally already.
The freeze applies to H-1B visas designed for high-skilled workers, particularly in the tech industry, and H-2B visas used by seasonal workers, such as in the construction and hospitality industries. Others that are impacted are H-4 visas given to spouses of H-1B visa holders; L-1 visas for executives who work for large corporations; and some J-1 visas for scholars and professors.
Get ready for higher grocery costs and a housing construction slow down.
Do migrant farmers get H1B1s? That would surprise me. This will affect Inidans, Chinese and other white collar workers, I would guess. During the recession, many companies stopped sponsoring these. My former company did the same. It was considered risky to sponsor a lot of these while unemployment was 10%.
I thought they fell under Hb2s which are included in the ban but those are construction and hospitality related, maybe? So construction but not farming. Confusing as hell but I guess Team Trump Treason is still trying to salvage his disastrous farm policy. I’m not sure I even referenced the construction visas properly. Its Monday.
how about..all of them.. I guess I just figured a good chunk of the migrant farmers were here illegally already.
The freeze applies to H-1B visas designed for high-skilled workers, particularly in the tech industry, and H-2B visas used by seasonal workers, such as in the construction and hospitality industries. Others that are impacted are H-4 visas given to spouses of H-1B visa holders; L-1 visas for executives who work for large corporations; and some J-1 visas for scholars and professors.
Apparently with exceptions for those working in food processing, including farming and seafood, and au pairs.
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I used to work in academic research, and we used H1Bs for several positions, from clinical and lab research, to IT. They're a bit of a pain to process and there are lots of moments for scrutiny, but overall I learned a lot about the type of people on H1Bs. The majority were brilliant and were doing amazing work here. I thought H2s referred to spouses/family of H1Bs, but I might be thinking of J1s and J2 visas.
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CYA Barr has lost the heads of the DOJ’s criminal and civil divisions as well as the Solicitor General. Let that sink in. Only the best people folks, only the best. Suckers.
I used to work in academic research, and we used H1Bs for several positions, from clinical and lab research, to IT. They're a bit of a pain to process and there are lots of moments for scrutiny, but overall I learned a lot about the type of people on H1Bs. The majority were brilliant and were doing amazing work here. I thought H2s referred to spouses/family of H1Bs, but I might be thinking of J1s and J2 visas.
I don't see Biden or any democrat making an issue out of this. They don't vote.
I will say this though about the media. I think they clearly have twisted Trump's words on the testing comments lately. I think it is clear that Trump is saying the US has more cases because we test more and that when he says if we didn't test we would have less reported cases. He is all about comparing to other countries. The media and late night comedians are disingenuous in claiming Trump thinks if we didn't test than there would be no cases.
I can't stand Trump but the media should do better. When they twist words to fit their narrative it just gives the right more to be angry about.
he clearly stated, and i watched the entire clip, that he wanted the testing to be slowed down so the numbers would go down. slowed testing=more deaths. that isn't leftist propaganda. that's a direct contextual quote and it's fucking disgusting.
I used to work in academic research, and we used H1Bs for several positions, from clinical and lab research, to IT. They're a bit of a pain to process and there are lots of moments for scrutiny, but overall I learned a lot about the type of people on H1Bs. The majority were brilliant and were doing amazing work here. I thought H2s referred to spouses/family of H1Bs, but I might be thinking of J1s and J2 visas.
I don't see Biden or any democrat making an issue out of this. They don't vote.
Oh for sure. I guess I was only pointing out that it's a shame these people are cut off for the time being from coming to the US and helping us in various ways.
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Except the part where she says that they are not america. Because like it or not they are. Bad dark underbelly of America, but still america
As long as Trump's in office they ARE America and we (or at least I) am not. And if Trump wins (well, fairly) then this absolutely is their country.
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if someone is on the verge of drowning and you prevent someone from throwing them a way to stay afloat, like with a life preserver or something, does that make you a murderer?
if someone is on the verge of drowning and you prevent someone from throwing them a way to stay afloat, like with a life preserver or something, does that make you a murderer?
i'd say so
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if someone is on the verge of drowning and you prevent someone from throwing them a way to stay afloat, like with a life preserver or something, does that make you a murderer?
Probably would be ruled second-degree murder or voluntary manslaughter.
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How about if the American people were in danger from a killer virus and you tried to prevent them from easily getting a test for a diagnosis so they could get treatment and maybe not infect others who might also die, by walking around in public? Is that similar?
How about if the American people were in danger from a killer virus and you tried to prevent them from easily getting a test for a diagnosis so they could get treatment and maybe not infect others who might also die, by walking around in public? Is that similar?
i knew this was where you were going, but it wouldn't hold up. that slippery slope would eventually land at cutting funds to medicare, which would be a major stretch.
is he ethically bankrupt? no question. but merely telling his supporters that he told his people to slow down testing? no.
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2. Saying the US has the most testing is another lie. When you measure per capita, the US is TWENTY SIXTH in testing https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
edit, please remember to sort by “tests per 1 mil pop” until the larger amounts are up top and you will see USA at 26th
If it's classified than it's true. If he's lying, well then, it can't really be classified.
It cannot be both.
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Somebody needs to get on this fast and make sure it doesn't happen. If it does, the demonstrations of the last few weeks will look like a party at the soda shop on Happy Days.
The freeze applies to H-1B visas designed for high-skilled workers, particularly in the tech industry, and H-2B visas used by seasonal workers, such as in the construction and hospitality industries. Others that are impacted are H-4 visas given to spouses of H-1B visa holders; L-1 visas for executives who work for large corporations; and some J-1 visas for scholars and professors.
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As long as Trump's in office they ARE America and we (or at least I) am not. And if Trump wins (well, fairly) then this absolutely is their country.
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Probably would be ruled second-degree murder or voluntary manslaughter.
is he ethically bankrupt? no question. but merely telling his supporters that he told his people to slow down testing? no.
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