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Good setup for a crime novel. A lot of jumping to conclusions. If true it is horrible, but we really need someone to break protocol and just out him if that’s the case. I can’t think that with the horrible job he’s done since elected that anyone would really feel that they would be punished for outing Donnie if they had actual intel to prove it. I mean I’m sure at the very least they could expect a pardon if it caused the entire Trump house of cards to fall down. Like what’s the worst punishment for outing a CI I mean didn’t Cheney out a CIA member and not even get a slap on the wrist?
Good setup for a crime novel. A lot of jumping to conclusions. If true it is horrible, but we really need someone to break protocol and just out him if that’s the case. I can’t think that with the horrible job he’s done since elected that anyone would really feel that they would be punished for outing Donnie if they had actual intel to prove it. I mean I’m sure at the very least they could expect a pardon if it caused the entire Trump house of cards to fall down. Like what’s the worst punishment for outing a CI I mean didn’t Cheney out a CIA member and not even get a slap on the wrist?
Are you thinking of Scooter, who was in jail until pardoned by Trump.
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Good setup for a crime novel. A lot of jumping to conclusions. If true it is horrible, but we really need someone to break protocol and just out him if that’s the case. I can’t think that with the horrible job he’s done since elected that anyone would really feel that they would be punished for outing Donnie if they had actual intel to prove it. I mean I’m sure at the very least they could expect a pardon if it caused the entire Trump house of cards to fall down. Like what’s the worst punishment for outing a CI I mean didn’t Cheney out a CIA member and not even get a slap on the wrist?
Are you thinking of Scooter, who was in jail until pardoned by Trump.
Right Scooter Libby who took the fall for Cheney and had his sentence commuted and only paid $250000 fine and I believe served no actual jail time. Was Pardoned of the charge by Trump, but I don’t think he actually served time.
Good setup for a crime novel. A lot of jumping to conclusions. If true it is horrible, but we really need someone to break protocol and just out him if that’s the case. I can’t think that with the horrible job he’s done since elected that anyone would really feel that they would be punished for outing Donnie if they had actual intel to prove it. I mean I’m sure at the very least they could expect a pardon if it caused the entire Trump house of cards to fall down. Like what’s the worst punishment for outing a CI I mean didn’t Cheney out a CIA member and not even get a slap on the wrist?
Are you thinking of Scooter, who was in jail until pardoned by Trump.
Right Scooter Libby who took the fall for Cheney and had his sentence commuted and only paid $250000 fine and I believe served no actual jail time. Was Pardoned of the charge by Trump, but I don’t think he actually served time.
I see. You are correct, no time served. Granted clemency by W., if I understand correctly.
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Good setup for a crime novel. A lot of jumping to conclusions. If true it is horrible, but we really need someone to break protocol and just out him if that’s the case. I can’t think that with the horrible job he’s done since elected that anyone would really feel that they would be punished for outing Donnie if they had actual intel to prove it. I mean I’m sure at the very least they could expect a pardon if it caused the entire Trump house of cards to fall down. Like what’s the worst punishment for outing a CI I mean didn’t Cheney out a CIA member and not even get a slap on the wrist?
It for sure reaks of tinfoil hat conspiracy theory. Also connects a lot of dots. Would be crazy if true....but would it really be that crazy?
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trump is too stupid to be in the mob. he says the quiet part out loud every single day. he would have been whacked in the 80s if he were mob affiliated.
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Very interesting. If the theory that this man has is correct and trump is in fact a CI, then who is to blame for him being in the position he is today? Shady dealings and associations are commonplace in DC, just more reason to question them. Since he has somehow avoided harsh sentencing with all of the wrongdoing he is accused of, it makes you wonder what he really knows. Probably some secrets our government isn't willing to reveal just to get their man.
Very interesting. If the theory that this man has is correct and trump is in fact a CI, then who is to blame for him being in the position he is today? Shady dealings and associations are commonplace in DC, just more reason to question them. Since he has somehow avoided harsh sentencing with all of the wrongdoing he is accused of, it makes you wonder what he really knows. Probably some secrets our government isn't willing to reveal just to get their man.
modern conservatism : where every accusation is a confession, designed to distract deflect divide this is tRUmp's modus operandi
tRUmp spends years railing against the 'deep state', when it may have been the 'deep state' that helped fail him upward into the presidency
now how would it look if that were actually true, and the public was informed?
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Very interesting. If the theory that this man has is correct and trump is in fact a CI, then who is to blame for him being in the position he is today? Shady dealings and associations are commonplace in DC, just more reason to question them. Since he has somehow avoided harsh sentencing with all of the wrongdoing he is accused of, it makes you wonder what he really knows. Probably some secrets our government isn't willing to reveal just to get their man.
modern conservatism : where every accusation is a confession, designed to distract deflect divide this is tRUmp's modus operandi
tRUmp spends years railing against the 'deep state', when it may have been the 'deep state' that helped fail him upward into the presidency
now how would it look if that were actually true, and the public was informed?
Transparency is something I think there is a major lack of within our government so I would be on board. You are still confusing my stance with one of being pro trump for some reason.
Very interesting. If the theory that this man has is correct and trump is in fact a CI, then who is to blame for him being in the position he is today? Shady dealings and associations are commonplace in DC, just more reason to question them. Since he has somehow avoided harsh sentencing with all of the wrongdoing he is accused of, it makes you wonder what he really knows. Probably some secrets our government isn't willing to reveal just to get their man.
modern conservatism : where every accusation is a confession, designed to distract deflect divide this is tRUmp's modus operandi
tRUmp spends years railing against the 'deep state', when it may have been the 'deep state' that helped fail him upward into the presidency
now how would it look if that were actually true, and the public was informed?
Transparency is something I think there is a major lack of within our government so I would be on board. You are still confusing my stance with one of being pro trump for some reason.
No, that's not it.
I am suggesting it's a tRUmp tactic to sow distrust in our government.
see also: both sides are bad the establishment protest voters 3rd party supporters
All of these are tactics to alienate voters from our government, rather than engage it's citizens. Why do you suppose that is?
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Very interesting. If the theory that this man has is correct and trump is in fact a CI, then who is to blame for him being in the position he is today? Shady dealings and associations are commonplace in DC, just more reason to question them. Since he has somehow avoided harsh sentencing with all of the wrongdoing he is accused of, it makes you wonder what he really knows. Probably some secrets our government isn't willing to reveal just to get their man.
modern conservatism : where every accusation is a confession, designed to distract deflect divide this is tRUmp's modus operandi
tRUmp spends years railing against the 'deep state', when it may have been the 'deep state' that helped fail him upward into the presidency
now how would it look if that were actually true, and the public was informed?
Transparency is something I think there is a major lack of within our government so I would be on board. You are still confusing my stance with one of being pro trump for some reason.
No, that's not it.
I am suggesting it's a tRUmp tactic to sow distrust in our government.
see also: both sides are bad the establishment protest voters 3rd party supporters
All of these are tactics to alienate voters from our government, rather than engage it's citizens. Why do you suppose that is?
It really is quite evident that Team Trump Treason is doing Putin on the Ritz's bidding, if you're paying attention, particularly to other things going on in the world. "Russia, if you're listening."
Very interesting. If the theory that this man has is correct and trump is in fact a CI, then who is to blame for him being in the position he is today? Shady dealings and associations are commonplace in DC, just more reason to question them. Since he has somehow avoided harsh sentencing with all of the wrongdoing he is accused of, it makes you wonder what he really knows. Probably some secrets our government isn't willing to reveal just to get their man.
modern conservatism : where every accusation is a confession, designed to distract deflect divide this is tRUmp's modus operandi
tRUmp spends years railing against the 'deep state', when it may have been the 'deep state' that helped fail him upward into the presidency
now how would it look if that were actually true, and the public was informed?
Transparency is something I think there is a major lack of within our government so I would be on board. You are still confusing my stance with one of being pro trump for some reason.
No, that's not it.
I am suggesting it's a tRUmp tactic to sow distrust in our government.
see also: both sides are bad the establishment protest voters 3rd party supporters
All of these are tactics to alienate voters from our government, rather than engage it's citizens. Why do you suppose that is?
If you think trump has anything to do with my stance on politics and our government you are wrong again. I have had this viewpoint for the majority of my adult life. It would seem that someone who has bought into a particular set of ideals presented to them by either party would be just as guilty of falling for tactics, no?
Very interesting. If the theory that this man has is correct and trump is in fact a CI, then who is to blame for him being in the position he is today? Shady dealings and associations are commonplace in DC, just more reason to question them. Since he has somehow avoided harsh sentencing with all of the wrongdoing he is accused of, it makes you wonder what he really knows. Probably some secrets our government isn't willing to reveal just to get their man.
modern conservatism : where every accusation is a confession, designed to distract deflect divide this is tRUmp's modus operandi
tRUmp spends years railing against the 'deep state', when it may have been the 'deep state' that helped fail him upward into the presidency
now how would it look if that were actually true, and the public was informed?
Transparency is something I think there is a major lack of within our government so I would be on board. You are still confusing my stance with one of being pro trump for some reason.
No, that's not it.
I am suggesting it's a tRUmp tactic to sow distrust in our government.
see also: both sides are bad the establishment protest voters 3rd party supporters
All of these are tactics to alienate voters from our government, rather than engage it's citizens. Why do you suppose that is?
If you think trump has anything to do with my stance on politics and our government you are wrong again. I have had this viewpoint for the majority of my adult life. It would seem that someone who has bought into a particular set of ideals presented to them by either party would be just as guilty of falling for tactics, no?
Yep, Bernie is happy to play that role for the far left.
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I think if we had any other person in the Oval Office, that person's approval ratings would be akin to what Cuomo's are in NY, over 70%. This dope gets a 3% bump and his supporters all of sudden think he's waltzing to a landslide victory. Think GW after 9/11 or his father during the Gulf War. They were in the mid 80's during those crisis. The fact that this guy still can't get past the mid 40's at a time when EVERYONE is going through the same thing shows you what kind of leader he is.
Trump should be alarmed instead. His approval ratings have risen far less than other leaders’ ratings during the coronavirus crisis, and Americans don’t seem to fully grasp the severity of the recession that’s coming as businesses shut down and millions lose their jobs. As a tsunami of hardship swamps the nation, Trump may find that his boasting and deflections backfire as people become more and more desperate for relief.
For now, Trump’s approval rating has risen from 43% at the beginning of March—before the coronavirus had shut down much of the U.S. economy – to 45% at the end of the month, according to the Fivethirtyeight composite of polls. Gallup puts Trump’s rating at 49%. By either measure, his approval ratings are close to the highest of his presidency, while his disapproval ratings are close to the lowest levels.
The gains are very small, however, compared with changes in approval ratings for other prominent leaders. Approval ratings for the UK’s Boris Johnson’s rose 15 points in two weeks, according to Morning Consult. Ratings are up 9 points for Germany’s Angela Merkel and 7 points for France’s Emmanuel Macron. Canada’s Justin Trudeau is up 11 points and Australia’s Scott Morrison is up 13 points.
In New York, Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s approval rating has soared from 50% to 71%, as Cuomo conducts televised daily briefings on the crisis in New York, similar to Trump’s daily White House briefings. People normally “rally around the flag” and support their leader during a crisis, yet Trump seems to be badly underperforming, compared with other leaders.
President Donald Trump holds his hand to his face as he talks about masks during a briefing about the coronavirus in the Rose Garden of the White House, Monday, March 30, 2020, in Washington. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)
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That small Trump bump could vanish and become an erosion of support if mainstream economic forecasts come true in coming months. Oxford Economics expects more than 20 million people to lose their jobs by the end of April, with the unemployment rate spiking from 3.5% to 12%. That would be unprecedented carnage. During the Great Recession of 2007–2009, the ranks of the unemployed swelled by 8.6 million or less than half the outlook for the next month alone. The unemployment rate back then peaked at just 10%.
Not feeling it yet?
Americans don’t grasp how bad this is going to get. Consumer confidence fell in the latest Conference Board survey—but only to the levels of early 2016. It’s still way higher than the depths confidence hit during the low point of the Great Recession in 2009. People obviously know something serious is going on when stores and restaurants close indefinitely. But many haven’t yet felt the recession in their paychecks, in lost health insurance or in the distress of family members.
The huge $2.2 trillion stimulus bill Congress just passed will ease the pain for some. Extreme monetary stimulus from the Federal Reserve will also help contain some of the damage. But neither of these measures will do the one thing most likely to end the recession: Contain the virus.
That’s up to Trump, to some extent. Aggressive, competent efforts to massively increase testing and keep people home—regardless of the short-term economic costs—could shorten the duration of the misery. But Trump has performed poorly up till now. He dismissed the threat of the virus for nearly two months, wasting valuable time that gave the virus a foothold in many large cities. He has pushed the idea of reopening the economy prematurely, which could cause a double-dip recession if the virus resurges. Trump also says he’s not aware that a shortage of testing is a problem, even though it’s all over the news and governors have been complaining about shortages to the White House directly.
I can't believe he wants to resume normal business by Easter. He's a madman. And I love how NY governor Cuomo is sticking it to Trump and getting under his skin.
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I can't believe he wants to resume normal business by Easter. He's a madman. And I love how NY governor Cuomo is sticking it to Trump and getting under his skin.
I personally don’t think Cuomo was always doing an amazing job. Trying, but late to the party.
I think he is now trying his best and working hard for the people though. Real leaders end up shining in moments like this.
I can't believe he wants to resume normal business by Easter. He's a madman. And I love how NY governor Cuomo is sticking it to Trump and getting under his skin.
He said that last week but most recently said june. June is optimistic, but I think it's important that our leaders dont put the light at the end of the tunnel too far.
Trump and the federal government is laying out their (loose) guidelines of distancing to april 30th.
I think cuomo has done a great job as our governor. No nonsense, gives off confidence, truthful, consistency, etc.
Trump is all over the place and when he speaks on this, I get anxiety. He is all over the place. Doesnt seem like he wants to be bothered with it sometimes. Not coherent. I dont need to hear his phony and hollow adjectives like " tremendous" right now. It feels rudderless. I hope this administration succeeds and crushes this, but they wont/cant. That's what happens when you elect a clown who has zero qualifications and whose bankroll comes from people hell bent on destroying government protections for the people.
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he would have never tried to strongarm the Ukraine. ever
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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There are no kings inside the gates of eden
Are you thinking of Scooter, who was in jail until pardoned by Trump.
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There are no kings inside the gates of eden
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
this is tRUmp's modus operandi
tRUmp spends years railing against the 'deep state', when it may have been the 'deep state' that helped fail him upward into the presidency
now how would it look if that were actually true, and the public was informed?
I am suggesting it's a tRUmp tactic to sow distrust in our government.
see also:
both sides are bad
the establishment
protest voters
3rd party supporters
All of these are tactics to alienate voters from our government, rather than engage it's citizens. Why do you suppose that is?
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https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?cid=rrpromo
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trumps-approval-bump-is-puny-and-probably-fleeting-204951615.html
Trump’s approval bump is puny and probably fleeting
President Trump is enjoying a modest improvement in his approval ratings, and he’s also proud of the TV ratings for his daily briefings.
Trump should be alarmed instead. His approval ratings have risen far less than other leaders’ ratings during the coronavirus crisis, and Americans don’t seem to fully grasp the severity of the recession that’s coming as businesses shut down and millions lose their jobs. As a tsunami of hardship swamps the nation, Trump may find that his boasting and deflections backfire as people become more and more desperate for relief.
For now, Trump’s approval rating has risen from 43% at the beginning of March—before the coronavirus had shut down much of the U.S. economy – to 45% at the end of the month, according to the Fivethirtyeight composite of polls. Gallup puts Trump’s rating at 49%. By either measure, his approval ratings are close to the highest of his presidency, while his disapproval ratings are close to the lowest levels.
The gains are very small, however, compared with changes in approval ratings for other prominent leaders. Approval ratings for the UK’s Boris Johnson’s rose 15 points in two weeks, according to Morning Consult. Ratings are up 9 points for Germany’s Angela Merkel and 7 points for France’s Emmanuel Macron. Canada’s Justin Trudeau is up 11 points and Australia’s Scott Morrison is up 13 points.
In New York, Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s approval rating has soared from 50% to 71%, as Cuomo conducts televised daily briefings on the crisis in New York, similar to Trump’s daily White House briefings. People normally “rally around the flag” and support their leader during a crisis, yet Trump seems to be badly underperforming, compared with other leaders.
That small Trump bump could vanish and become an erosion of support if mainstream economic forecasts come true in coming months. Oxford Economics expects more than 20 million people to lose their jobs by the end of April, with the unemployment rate spiking from 3.5% to 12%. That would be unprecedented carnage. During the Great Recession of 2007–2009, the ranks of the unemployed swelled by 8.6 million or less than half the outlook for the next month alone. The unemployment rate back then peaked at just 10%.
Not feeling it yet?
Americans don’t grasp how bad this is going to get. Consumer confidence fell in the latest Conference Board survey—but only to the levels of early 2016. It’s still way higher than the depths confidence hit during the low point of the Great Recession in 2009. People obviously know something serious is going on when stores and restaurants close indefinitely. But many haven’t yet felt the recession in their paychecks, in lost health insurance or in the distress of family members.
The huge $2.2 trillion stimulus bill Congress just passed will ease the pain for some. Extreme monetary stimulus from the Federal Reserve will also help contain some of the damage. But neither of these measures will do the one thing most likely to end the recession: Contain the virus.
That’s up to Trump, to some extent. Aggressive, competent efforts to massively increase testing and keep people home—regardless of the short-term economic costs—could shorten the duration of the misery. But Trump has performed poorly up till now. He dismissed the threat of the virus for nearly two months, wasting valuable time that gave the virus a foothold in many large cities. He has pushed the idea of reopening the economy prematurely, which could cause a double-dip recession if the virus resurges. Trump also says he’s not aware that a shortage of testing is a problem, even though it’s all over the news and governors have been complaining about shortages to the White House directly.
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He's a madman.
And I love how NY governor Cuomo is sticking it to Trump and getting under his skin.
Trump and the federal government is laying out their (loose) guidelines of distancing to april 30th.
I think cuomo has done a great job as our governor. No nonsense, gives off confidence, truthful, consistency, etc.
Trump is all over the place and when he speaks on this, I get anxiety. He is all over the place. Doesnt seem like he wants to be bothered with it sometimes. Not coherent. I dont need to hear his phony and hollow adjectives like " tremendous" right now. It feels rudderless. I hope this administration succeeds and crushes this, but they wont/cant. That's what happens when you elect a clown who has zero qualifications and whose bankroll comes from people hell bent on destroying government protections for the people.