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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,844
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,663
    I don't know what is stupider.....
    Believing Scaramucci
    Or believing the currently elected president 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,522
    don't hold your breath. he's being booked on these shows knowing he's going to say something provocative, so he keeps making these claims. he was a press sec for 11 days. he doesn't know shit. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,745
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  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,052
    Yo it's all just PRESIDENTIAL HARASSMENT!

     
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  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,052
    He's doing the HARASSING.  With an emphasis on ASSING.  
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  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,052
    edited November 2019
    All Don was ever interested in was acting rich, and chasing tail.  Being married never even slowed him down.  All the lying he did to his wives, now he does that to us.  

    Instead of continuing on that path, he became our wrestling villain President.  That's literally how he acts, like it's a TV show.
    Contrarian just for the sake of it, but now it's real, and he likes it.  The WWE is on network TV 3 nights a week in the US of A.  
    He acts exactly like those wrestlers.  Running his mouth, challenging everybody, but he has the tie on so he has to be a little classy.

    I've posted this before but it's really worth another look...  



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  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,052
    I'm so sure the 2020 Campaign TOTALLY paid a public performance licensing fee to Neil Young for blasting "Rockin in the Free World" before that Kentucky ho down last night.  




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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,745
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,745
    maybe. but the phone records corroborate at least a portion of her story. lends credence to the rest.


    what I fail to understand is , is not just her but other women also continuing contact or pursuit of business or job opportunities with the same men who assualt them.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,522
    mickeyrat said:
    maybe. but the phone records corroborate at least a portion of her story. lends credence to the rest.


    what I fail to understand is , is not just her but other women also continuing contact or pursuit of business or job opportunities with the same men who assualt them.
    there has been innumerable reasons he should have been taken down by now. but the checks and balances just aren't there. to be honest, they have never been there. i was reading up on clinton's impeachment. he got off when he absolutely shouldn't have. almost all senators voted along party lines, not with non-partisan facts. he should have been removed easily. it's all a sham. 

    unfortunately, in today's climate, most women have no choice, they normalize it to themselves that this is just how it is, they feel as if they did something to deserve it, endless reasons. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,466
    edited November 2019
    mickeyrat said:
    maybe. but the phone records corroborate at least a portion of her story. lends credence to the rest.


    what I fail to understand is , is not just her but other women also continuing contact or pursuit of business or job opportunities with the same men who assualt them.
    there has been innumerable reasons he should have been taken down by now. but the checks and balances just aren't there. to be honest, they have never been there. i was reading up on clinton's impeachment. he got off when he absolutely shouldn't have. almost all senators voted along party lines, not with non-partisan facts. he should have been removed easily. it's all a sham. 

    unfortunately, in today's climate, most women have no choice, they normalize it to themselves that this is just how it is, they feel as if they did something to deserve it, endless reasons. 
    Wait....you think Clinton "absolutely" deserved to be removed from office? Really?

    Impeachment is about politics. Clinton was a popular president so he wasn't convicted in the senate. Nixon's popularity plunged after the tapes were released and he resigned to avoid embarrasment. Trump is historically unpopular, gotta see where his numbers are at by the time this goes to the senate.


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  • mickeyrat said:
    maybe. but the phone records corroborate at least a portion of her story. lends credence to the rest.


    what I fail to understand is , is not just her but other women also continuing contact or pursuit of business or job opportunities with the same men who assualt them.
    there has been innumerable reasons he should have been taken down by now. but the checks and balances just aren't there. to be honest, they have never been there. i was reading up on clinton's impeachment. he got off when he absolutely shouldn't have. almost all senators voted along party lines, not with non-partisan facts. he should have been removed easily. it's all a sham. 

    unfortunately, in today's climate, most women have no choice, they normalize it to themselves that this is just how it is, they feel as if they did something to deserve it, endless reasons. 
    Wait....you think Clinton deserved to be removed from office?

    Impeachment is about politics. Clinton was a popular president so he wasn't convicted in the senate. Nixon's popularity plunged after the tapes were released and he resigned to avoid embarrasment. Trump is historically unpopular, gotta see where his numbers are by the time this goes to the senate.


    Clinton also sat for a video taped deposition, of which his perjury charge emanated, for lying about consensual sex during an investigation that began with a failed land deal in Arkansas. Team Trump Treason potentially committed ten acts of obstruction of justice in providing written answers to questions provided by Team Mueller. Imagine Team Trump Treason’s perjury charges if he were to be deposed on camera. The current Ukraine impeachment centers around election interference, which is what the Team Mueller investigation centered around. Can’t even compare the two investigations, from the reason that initiated them, cooperation of witnesses and justice department involvement, to how they were conducted and the ultimate result (we’re still waiting on that piece but it ain’t gonna be the same).
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,466
    Looks like the blue wave from last year is continuing from Kentucky to Virginia, to right here in my backyard. Getting turn out higher in urban areas are key but also, as I remember arguing with some folks last year, Trump is making republicans toxic in suburban counties. Check out some news in my neck of the woods (suburban Philly-which is crucial next year):








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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,175
    Yes Baffoon keep showing up to boost up republicans that are up for elections! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,663
    edited November 2019
    Yes Baffoon keep showing up to boost up republicans that are up for elections! 
    Sure hope if he goes to the game on Saturday that he's an Alabama fan. That way LSU is sure to win.

    #GeauxTigers
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,348
    edited November 2019
    What a douche. Fake Christians.  It's amazing how the teachings of Jesus are corrupted through the centuries and today. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,522
    mickeyrat said:
    maybe. but the phone records corroborate at least a portion of her story. lends credence to the rest.


    what I fail to understand is , is not just her but other women also continuing contact or pursuit of business or job opportunities with the same men who assualt them.
    there has been innumerable reasons he should have been taken down by now. but the checks and balances just aren't there. to be honest, they have never been there. i was reading up on clinton's impeachment. he got off when he absolutely shouldn't have. almost all senators voted along party lines, not with non-partisan facts. he should have been removed easily. it's all a sham. 

    unfortunately, in today's climate, most women have no choice, they normalize it to themselves that this is just how it is, they feel as if they did something to deserve it, endless reasons. 
    Wait....you think Clinton "absolutely" deserved to be removed from office? Really?

    Impeachment is about politics. Clinton was a popular president so he wasn't convicted in the senate. Nixon's popularity plunged after the tapes were released and he resigned to avoid embarrasment. Trump is historically unpopular, gotta see where his numbers are at by the time this goes to the senate.


    impeachment is about popularity? I thought it was about not being corrupt, not lying under oath, not being accused of sexual assault by multiple women, you know, that kind of thing. 

    so I guess trump was right. you really can't impeach a president who's doing a good job. LOL
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,522
    mickeyrat said:
    maybe. but the phone records corroborate at least a portion of her story. lends credence to the rest.


    what I fail to understand is , is not just her but other women also continuing contact or pursuit of business or job opportunities with the same men who assualt them.
    there has been innumerable reasons he should have been taken down by now. but the checks and balances just aren't there. to be honest, they have never been there. i was reading up on clinton's impeachment. he got off when he absolutely shouldn't have. almost all senators voted along party lines, not with non-partisan facts. he should have been removed easily. it's all a sham. 

    unfortunately, in today's climate, most women have no choice, they normalize it to themselves that this is just how it is, they feel as if they did something to deserve it, endless reasons. 
    Wait....you think Clinton deserved to be removed from office?

    Impeachment is about politics. Clinton was a popular president so he wasn't convicted in the senate. Nixon's popularity plunged after the tapes were released and he resigned to avoid embarrasment. Trump is historically unpopular, gotta see where his numbers are by the time this goes to the senate.


    Clinton also sat for a video taped deposition, of which his perjury charge emanated, for lying about consensual sex during an investigation that began with a failed land deal in Arkansas. Team Trump Treason potentially committed ten acts of obstruction of justice in providing written answers to questions provided by Team Mueller. Imagine Team Trump Treason’s perjury charges if he were to be deposed on camera. The current Ukraine impeachment centers around election interference, which is what the Team Mueller investigation centered around. Can’t even compare the two investigations, from the reason that initiated them, cooperation of witnesses and justice department involvement, to how they were conducted and the ultimate result (we’re still waiting on that piece but it ain’t gonna be the same).
    not everything is "being compared" to. trump is not the benchmark for every other incident in history. clinton lied under oath. full stop. just because trump is a corrupt and potentially treasonous POS doesn't mean every other person less corrupt than him gets a pass. that's not how this works. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,522
    edited November 2019
    the female cyclist who flipped off trump's motorcade and lost her job because of it just won local office in virginia. 
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  • mickeyrat said:
    maybe. but the phone records corroborate at least a portion of her story. lends credence to the rest.


    what I fail to understand is , is not just her but other women also continuing contact or pursuit of business or job opportunities with the same men who assualt them.
    there has been innumerable reasons he should have been taken down by now. but the checks and balances just aren't there. to be honest, they have never been there. i was reading up on clinton's impeachment. he got off when he absolutely shouldn't have. almost all senators voted along party lines, not with non-partisan facts. he should have been removed easily. it's all a sham. 

    unfortunately, in today's climate, most women have no choice, they normalize it to themselves that this is just how it is, they feel as if they did something to deserve it, endless reasons. 
    Wait....you think Clinton deserved to be removed from office?

    Impeachment is about politics. Clinton was a popular president so he wasn't convicted in the senate. Nixon's popularity plunged after the tapes were released and he resigned to avoid embarrasment. Trump is historically unpopular, gotta see where his numbers are by the time this goes to the senate.


    Clinton also sat for a video taped deposition, of which his perjury charge emanated, for lying about consensual sex during an investigation that began with a failed land deal in Arkansas. Team Trump Treason potentially committed ten acts of obstruction of justice in providing written answers to questions provided by Team Mueller. Imagine Team Trump Treason’s perjury charges if he were to be deposed on camera. The current Ukraine impeachment centers around election interference, which is what the Team Mueller investigation centered around. Can’t even compare the two investigations, from the reason that initiated them, cooperation of witnesses and justice department involvement, to how they were conducted and the ultimate result (we’re still waiting on that piece but it ain’t gonna be the same).
    not everything is "being compared" to. trump is not the benchmark for every other incident in history. clinton lied under oath. full stop. just because trump is a corrupt and potentially treasonous POS doesn't mean every other person less corrupt than him gets a pass. that's not how this works. 
    Except one was a real witch hunt and one is not. I don’t remember “sexual assault” being one of the articles of impeachment against Clinton. Regardless, impeachment is not a legal process, and as Juggler stated, it’s a political process, which ultimately means it’s a “popularity” contest. Lying about a sexual affair during an investigation that started out as an investigation of a land deal isn’t the same degree of perjury as lying about a quid pro quo to influence an election, not to compare. At least a majority of elected senators thought so.

    If it’s not being “compared,” then why did you bring up Clinton’s impeachment in the Team Trump Treason thread?
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 19,428
    edited November 2019
    mickeyrat said:
    maybe. but the phone records corroborate at least a portion of her story. lends credence to the rest.


    what I fail to understand is , is not just her but other women also continuing contact or pursuit of business or job opportunities with the same men who assualt them.
    there has been innumerable reasons he should have been taken down by now. but the checks and balances just aren't there. to be honest, they have never been there. i was reading up on clinton's impeachment. he got off when he absolutely shouldn't have. almost all senators voted along party lines, not with non-partisan facts. he should have been removed easily. it's all a sham. 

    unfortunately, in today's climate, most women have no choice, they normalize it to themselves that this is just how it is, they feel as if they did something to deserve it, endless reasons. 
    I do think that Clinton should have been convicted...he opened himself up to blackmail at a minimum and disgraced the office.

    However, comparing Clinton's misdeed to tRump is night and day.  Comparing tRump to Nixon is night and day.  This fucker is dangerous and I can't believe the inner workings of the admin haven't taken care of it yet.

    In hindsight it was probably appropriate that Clinton wasn't convicted.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,522
    mickeyrat said:
    maybe. but the phone records corroborate at least a portion of her story. lends credence to the rest.


    what I fail to understand is , is not just her but other women also continuing contact or pursuit of business or job opportunities with the same men who assualt them.
    there has been innumerable reasons he should have been taken down by now. but the checks and balances just aren't there. to be honest, they have never been there. i was reading up on clinton's impeachment. he got off when he absolutely shouldn't have. almost all senators voted along party lines, not with non-partisan facts. he should have been removed easily. it's all a sham. 

    unfortunately, in today's climate, most women have no choice, they normalize it to themselves that this is just how it is, they feel as if they did something to deserve it, endless reasons. 
    Wait....you think Clinton deserved to be removed from office?

    Impeachment is about politics. Clinton was a popular president so he wasn't convicted in the senate. Nixon's popularity plunged after the tapes were released and he resigned to avoid embarrasment. Trump is historically unpopular, gotta see where his numbers are by the time this goes to the senate.


    Clinton also sat for a video taped deposition, of which his perjury charge emanated, for lying about consensual sex during an investigation that began with a failed land deal in Arkansas. Team Trump Treason potentially committed ten acts of obstruction of justice in providing written answers to questions provided by Team Mueller. Imagine Team Trump Treason’s perjury charges if he were to be deposed on camera. The current Ukraine impeachment centers around election interference, which is what the Team Mueller investigation centered around. Can’t even compare the two investigations, from the reason that initiated them, cooperation of witnesses and justice department involvement, to how they were conducted and the ultimate result (we’re still waiting on that piece but it ain’t gonna be the same).
    not everything is "being compared" to. trump is not the benchmark for every other incident in history. clinton lied under oath. full stop. just because trump is a corrupt and potentially treasonous POS doesn't mean every other person less corrupt than him gets a pass. that's not how this works. 
    Except one was a real witch hunt and one is not. I don’t remember “sexual assault” being one of the articles of impeachment against Clinton. Regardless, impeachment is not a legal process, and as Juggler stated, it’s a political process, which ultimately means it’s a “popularity” contest. Lying about a sexual affair during an investigation that started out as an investigation of a land deal isn’t the same degree of perjury as lying about a quid pro quo to influence an election, not to compare. At least a majority of elected senators thought so.

    If it’s not being “compared,” then why did you bring up Clinton’s impeachment in the Team Trump Treason thread?
    I fully understand it's not a legal process. it seems to be a political/popularity issue, but it's not supposed to be. it's supposed to be an employability issue. and lying under oath is a very good reason to remove from office. you can sugar coat it all you want, it was just a separate finding from a different issue, it makes no difference. he lied under oath. you lie to your superiors, you are gone. that's it. if I get caught doing something by my work and I'm questioned about it, and I lie to them during questioning, I'm history. 

    a VERY SLIM majority of elected senators thought so, only because the democrats controlled the senate. come on. seems like you're trying to paint this is as both parties came to a consensus that he was innocent. haha. 

    all I said was I was reading up on clinton's impeachment as I got interested in it after thinking about how all these idiots vote along party lines and not along what's right and wrong, so I looked up how each senator voted during clinton's trial. I wasn't comparing the wrong doings of either. only the process which is contained within both. not sure why anyone has to constantly defend subjects they bring up here to you, especially when it's relevant. 
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  • mickeyrat said:
    maybe. but the phone records corroborate at least a portion of her story. lends credence to the rest.


    what I fail to understand is , is not just her but other women also continuing contact or pursuit of business or job opportunities with the same men who assualt them.
    there has been innumerable reasons he should have been taken down by now. but the checks and balances just aren't there. to be honest, they have never been there. i was reading up on clinton's impeachment. he got off when he absolutely shouldn't have. almost all senators voted along party lines, not with non-partisan facts. he should have been removed easily. it's all a sham. 

    unfortunately, in today's climate, most women have no choice, they normalize it to themselves that this is just how it is, they feel as if they did something to deserve it, endless reasons. 
    Wait....you think Clinton deserved to be removed from office?

    Impeachment is about politics. Clinton was a popular president so he wasn't convicted in the senate. Nixon's popularity plunged after the tapes were released and he resigned to avoid embarrasment. Trump is historically unpopular, gotta see where his numbers are by the time this goes to the senate.


    Clinton also sat for a video taped deposition, of which his perjury charge emanated, for lying about consensual sex during an investigation that began with a failed land deal in Arkansas. Team Trump Treason potentially committed ten acts of obstruction of justice in providing written answers to questions provided by Team Mueller. Imagine Team Trump Treason’s perjury charges if he were to be deposed on camera. The current Ukraine impeachment centers around election interference, which is what the Team Mueller investigation centered around. Can’t even compare the two investigations, from the reason that initiated them, cooperation of witnesses and justice department involvement, to how they were conducted and the ultimate result (we’re still waiting on that piece but it ain’t gonna be the same).
    not everything is "being compared" to. trump is not the benchmark for every other incident in history. clinton lied under oath. full stop. just because trump is a corrupt and potentially treasonous POS doesn't mean every other person less corrupt than him gets a pass. that's not how this works. 
    Except one was a real witch hunt and one is not. I don’t remember “sexual assault” being one of the articles of impeachment against Clinton. Regardless, impeachment is not a legal process, and as Juggler stated, it’s a political process, which ultimately means it’s a “popularity” contest. Lying about a sexual affair during an investigation that started out as an investigation of a land deal isn’t the same degree of perjury as lying about a quid pro quo to influence an election, not to compare. At least a majority of elected senators thought so.

    If it’s not being “compared,” then why did you bring up Clinton’s impeachment in the Team Trump Treason thread?
    I fully understand it's not a legal process. it seems to be a political/popularity issue, but it's not supposed to be. it's supposed to be an employability issue. and lying under oath is a very good reason to remove from office. you can sugar coat it all you want, it was just a separate finding from a different issue, it makes no difference. he lied under oath. you lie to your superiors, you are gone. that's it. if I get caught doing something by my work and I'm questioned about it, and I lie to them during questioning, I'm history. 

    a VERY SLIM majority of elected senators thought so, only because the democrats controlled the senate. come on. seems like you're trying to paint this is as both parties came to a consensus that he was innocent. haha. 

    all I said was I was reading up on clinton's impeachment as I got interested in it after thinking about how all these idiots vote along party lines and not along what's right and wrong, so I looked up how each senator voted during clinton's trial. I wasn't comparing the wrong doings of either. only the process which is contained within both. not sure why anyone has to constantly defend subjects they bring up here to you, especially when it's relevant. 
    Yes, it is an "employability issue," and the boss, the American people, through their elected representatives in the Senate, refused to fire Clinton because they believed his lying under oath for the transgression didn't rise to a fireable offense. Employees in work places lie all the time during investigations, sometimes while they're on unpaid leave. The period of unpaid leave may be considered "punishment enough."

    To the first bolded statement, maybe Clinton had a better defense attorney representing him during the senate trial? The job of the repubs, in this case, was to convince 67 senators to vote to remove from office as the punishment. Maybe the repub prosecutors sucked badly or Clinton's defense attorney was stellar in her defense. If you can find a video of her on the senate floor in her defense, I highly suggest that you watch. Not everything is as black and white as you'd like it to be, particularly with the law, or in this case, politics or popularity. And nice projection on your part regarding my thoughts on consensus, haha.

    To the second bolded part, you stated that Clinton should have been removed easily. Do you think the same of Team Trump Trump Treason? Do you think the impeachment process is easy? And feel free to ignore having to "having to constantly defend subjects" to me. You control you, I don't.
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    maybe. but the phone records corroborate at least a portion of her story. lends credence to the rest.


    what I fail to understand is , is not just her but other women also continuing contact or pursuit of business or job opportunities with the same men who assualt them.
    there has been innumerable reasons he should have been taken down by now. but the checks and balances just aren't there. to be honest, they have never been there. i was reading up on clinton's impeachment. he got off when he absolutely shouldn't have. almost all senators voted along party lines, not with non-partisan facts. he should have been removed easily. it's all a sham. 

    unfortunately, in today's climate, most women have no choice, they normalize it to themselves that this is just how it is, they feel as if they did something to deserve it, endless reasons. 
    Wait....you think Clinton "absolutely" deserved to be removed from office? Really?

    Impeachment is about politics. Clinton was a popular president so he wasn't convicted in the senate. Nixon's popularity plunged after the tapes were released and he resigned to avoid embarrasment. Trump is historically unpopular, gotta see where his numbers are at by the time this goes to the senate.


    impeachment is about popularity? I thought it was about not being corrupt, not lying under oath, not being accused of sexual assault by multiple women, you know, that kind of thing. 

    so I guess trump was right. you really can't impeach a president who's doing a good job. LOL
    Yes. Of course it is. It is a political process, not a criminal one.

    Do you think Nixon would've been asked to resign had his approval numbers not plummeted after the tapes were released? Republicans supported him up until that point. 


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