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  • TJ25487TJ25487 Posts: 1,475
    benjs said:
    dignin said:
    It's interesting to see the mind of a true Trump supporter.

    Also scary.
    Reminds me of the Godfather days. GF, is that you? ;) 
    No Fredo! It's not. 
  • TJ25487 said:
    The Barr/Durham investigation is coming to a close. I'm sure you all will discount that as lies and propaganda as well. 
    We’ve been collectively holding our breath since January 2018. What’s taking so long?
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  • TJ25487TJ25487 Posts: 1,475
    PJ_Soul said:
    Breitbart most certainly is not what CNN and MSNBC are to the left.
    Apparently you didn't see the Fox News (most watched news channel) report where Project Veritas infiltrated the CNN boardroom and tape recorded the owner Jeff Zucker basically saying to his higher ups " Fuck the news, get Trump". 
  • TJ25487TJ25487 Posts: 1,475
    TJ25487 said:
    Nolte: Dem Star Impeachment Witness Vindman Confirms Trump Did Nothing Wrong

    Another swing and a miss by the left. 

    https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/10/30/nolte-dem-star-impeachment-witness-vindman-confirms-trump-did-nothing-wrong/
    breitbart? Seriously?
    No links from....

    rt
    daily stormer 
    infowars
    daily pundit
    newsmax
    focksnooze
    daily caller
    washington  examiner 
    Oh is this a " my news sources are better than your news sources" deal???
    I didn't know you were the official news police. 
    Noted. Can you please give me a list of news sources that I am allowed to quote on here? 
    Thanks, 
  • TJ25487TJ25487 Posts: 1,475
    Also, FYI, whistleblower reports are not “leaks”.


    TJ24587 says:

    and a friend of a friend of a friend who was on the phone call is also not a whistleblower. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,348
    TJ25487 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Breitbart most certainly is not what CNN and MSNBC are to the left.
    Apparently you didn't see the Fox News (most watched news channel) report where Project Veritas infiltrated the CNN boardroom and tape recorded the owner Jeff Zucker basically saying to his higher ups " Fuck the news, get Trump". 
    The network nightly news pulls 3x as many viewers as fox. That's where swing voters get their information. 
  • TJ25487TJ25487 Posts: 1,475
    TJ25487 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    Nolte: Dem Star Impeachment Witness Vindman Confirms Trump Did Nothing Wrong

    Another swing and a miss by the left. 

    https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/10/30/nolte-dem-star-impeachment-witness-vindman-confirms-trump-did-nothing-wrong/
    Are you completely daft?  He went straight to NSC lawyers with concerns.  Read his damn opening statement and stop getting information Nolte on Breitbart.  All he does is write propaganda for the those without critical thinking skills.  Read the opening statement and then tell me that Vindman thinks everything was fine.  Christ almighty..  https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/Read-Alexander-Vindmans-Opening-Statement-on-Trumps-Ukraine-Call-564036951.html

    How about a nice easy quote?  "I was concerned by the call," Vindman wrote in his opening statement. "I did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen, and I was worried about the implications for the U.S. government’s support of Ukraine."

    The statement went on to say: "I realized that if Ukraine pursued an investigation into the Bidens and Burisma, it would likely be interpreted as a partisan play which would undoubtedly result in Ukraine losing the bipartisan support it has thus far maintained. This would all undermine U.S. national security. Following the call, I again reported my concerns to NSC’s lead counsel."

    Get out of your bubble and deal with facts.  


    I'm not as daft as your going to look when this impeachment charade is over. Vindman, Shiff, Nadler, Brennon, Clapper, Comey, Struck, Paige Pelosi, Baker, Simpson, Steele etc. etc. can all go whining and crying to anybody they want saying that Trump did this or did that but in the end nothing sticks as Trump breaking the law. For Christ sake you guys! The only reason we are hearing about all the crazy stuff Trump says is because all of his private conversations get leaked out because of all the partisan hacks in Washington that have been trying to take him out since before he took office. Nobody ever leaked Obama's conversations as they were protecting him, other than when he got caught on tape telling a Russian ambassador to " tell Vladimir that I will have more flexibility after my last election".

     If our wives or significant others heard all of our private conversations that we have amongst friends and acquaintances they would probably leave us. 

    Back to Ukraine: Nevermind the Quid Pro Quo where Biden said that if they don't fire the investigator that is looking into the company that his son worked for (who had no reason to work there) that he would withhold a billion dollars of tax payer money. That is the real smoking gun that nobody wants to look into for fear of finding out the truth. 

    Next up: John Bolton who of course the media is going to prop up as the best guy since Abe Lincoln when all they have ever done in the past is label him as a crazy fool which he very well could be. 

    Stay tuned! 
    Are you really trying to equate calls and conversations regarding governmental business to private conversations with friends? 
     
    There’s a reason that people are reporting these, and it’s because they’re concerned that they break the law. 


    TJ24587 says:

    Yes there is a difference between personal and business conversations. I am saying that Obama could have been heard saying that he murdered someone and nobody would have said boo. Heck! He was even caught on tape telling a Russian ambassador " Tell Putin I will have more flexibility after the next election" I'm sure that didn't have any suspicious implications??? I know I know, Obama has a big heart! 

    So they are reporting his private comments because they are concerned citizens huh? Where were they when the Obama administration wire tapped Trump Tower and when Samantha Powers unmasked a bunch of private citizens? Not to mention when they started spying on Carter Paige. Oh and where was the press when Hillary was throwing subpoena'd government servers out her window and smashing her cell phones with hammers??? I guess the media was busy with more important news of the day?
  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    TJ25487 said:
    TJ, being a Republican is a choice. Being a whatever(liberal, independent, satanist) is a choice. 

    Sticking with a belligerent racist criminal traitor is ignorant and just makes you look uninformed and gives your arguments no merit. This guy is the worst president in the history of the United States and it’s not even close. W got us into two forever wars. Carter was incompetent but had a good heart. Clinton and his wife are criminals too but guess what. News flash. She lost. The only people that still bring her up are Trumpers that have no merit for an argument. 

    Part of being an adult is admitting when your wrong. The laundry list of infractions and all of the associates of Trump and his family that have already been arrested and are getting indicted is growing. His prior and current administration lackeys are singing like birds in spring. 

    When will you and others realize that putting a known con man into office was a bad choice. Find another Republican with some merit to right the ship. I agree with some republican ideas. But I’m an environmental tree hugger who also understands that there can be a balance of consumerism and environmentalism. 

    This guy is a lost cause and from what it looks like a treasonous traitor. Ask the Kurds. Look at who benefits from that withdrawal. Russia. Remember when the republicans were the fuck Russia party and this buffoon welcomes them with open arms and gift bags. 

    To sum it up, it’s better to admit when your wrong and get on the rescue ship instead of going down with the titanic. We are Humans first and Americans second. History and present day will show that this criminal was the downfall of America and hopefully whoever comes next regardless of party can right the wrong. 
    PJ - I respect your opinions and you make some good points here but feel your opinions are a bit skewed as you believe mine are. 
    I am neither a Republican or Democrat

  • TJ25487TJ25487 Posts: 1,475
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Breitbart most certainly is not what CNN and MSNBC are to the left.
    Apparently you didn't see the Fox News (most watched news channel) report where Project Veritas infiltrated the CNN boardroom and tape recorded the owner Jeff Zucker basically saying to his higher ups " Fuck the news, get Trump". 
    The network nightly news pulls 3x as many viewers as fox. That's where swing voters get their information. 
    Sorry. I meant to say cable news. So what did you think of the report?
  • TJ25487 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    Nolte: Dem Star Impeachment Witness Vindman Confirms Trump Did Nothing Wrong

    Another swing and a miss by the left. 

    https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/10/30/nolte-dem-star-impeachment-witness-vindman-confirms-trump-did-nothing-wrong/
    Are you completely daft?  He went straight to NSC lawyers with concerns.  Read his damn opening statement and stop getting information Nolte on Breitbart.  All he does is write propaganda for the those without critical thinking skills.  Read the opening statement and then tell me that Vindman thinks everything was fine.  Christ almighty..  https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/Read-Alexander-Vindmans-Opening-Statement-on-Trumps-Ukraine-Call-564036951.html

    How about a nice easy quote?  "I was concerned by the call," Vindman wrote in his opening statement. "I did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen, and I was worried about the implications for the U.S. government’s support of Ukraine."

    The statement went on to say: "I realized that if Ukraine pursued an investigation into the Bidens and Burisma, it would likely be interpreted as a partisan play which would undoubtedly result in Ukraine losing the bipartisan support it has thus far maintained. This would all undermine U.S. national security. Following the call, I again reported my concerns to NSC’s lead counsel."

    Get out of your bubble and deal with facts.  


    I'm not as daft as your going to look when this impeachment charade is over. Vindman, Shiff, Nadler, Brennon, Clapper, Comey, Struck, Paige Pelosi, Baker, Simpson, Steele etc. etc. can all go whining and crying to anybody they want saying that Trump did this or did that but in the end nothing sticks as Trump breaking the law. For Christ sake you guys! The only reason we are hearing about all the crazy stuff Trump says is because all of his private conversations get leaked out because of all the partisan hacks in Washington that have been trying to take him out since before he took office. Nobody ever leaked Obama's conversations as they were protecting him, other than when he got caught on tape telling a Russian ambassador to " tell Vladimir that I will have more flexibility after my last election".

     If our wives or significant others heard all of our private conversations that we have amongst friends and acquaintances they would probably leave us. 

    Back to Ukraine: Nevermind the Quid Pro Quo where Biden said that if they don't fire the investigator that is looking into the company that his son worked for (who had no reason to work there) that he would withhold a billion dollars of tax payer money. That is the real smoking gun that nobody wants to look into for fear of finding out the truth. 

    Next up: John Bolton who of course the media is going to prop up as the best guy since Abe Lincoln when all they have ever done in the past is label him as a crazy fool which he very well could be. 

    Stay tuned! 
    Are you really trying to equate calls and conversations regarding governmental business to private conversations with friends? 
     
    There’s a reason that people are reporting these, and it’s because they’re concerned that they break the law. 


    TJ24587 says:

    Yes there is a difference between personal and business conversations. I am saying that Obama could have been heard saying that he murdered someone and nobody would have said boo. Heck! He was even caught on tape telling a Russian ambassador " Tell Putin I will have more flexibility after the next election" I'm sure that didn't have any suspicious implications??? I know I know, Obama has a big heart! 

    So they are reporting his private comments because they are concerned citizens huh? Where were they when the Obama administration wire tapped Trump Tower and when Samantha Powers unmasked a bunch of private citizens? Not to mention when they started spying on Carter Paige. Oh and where was the press when Hillary was throwing subpoena'd government servers out her window and smashing her cell phones with hammers??? I guess the media was busy with more important news of the day?
    You enjoying that fruit from the poisonous tree an awful lot. Be careful, you’ll feel bloated and make rash decisions. Like spike the football. Speaking of which, when will you reference the four page CYA Barr summary report in Team Trump Treason’s defense? Asking for a friend.
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  • TJ25487TJ25487 Posts: 1,475
    TJ25487 said:
    The Barr/Durham investigation is coming to a close. I'm sure you all will discount that as lies and propaganda as well. 
    We’ve been collectively holding our breath since January 2018. What’s taking so long?
    You might be thinking of the Inspector Generals Investigation which has been going on since then but the Attorney General's separate investigation was started this past May I believe. The IG can only report but can't indict. The AG can indict. BTW the AG probe just got upgraded to a criminal investigation which may mean they are finding out about some nefarious deeds by the Obama DOJ/FBI, many of whom have already quit or have been fired for misconduct. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,348
    TJ25487 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Breitbart most certainly is not what CNN and MSNBC are to the left.
    Apparently you didn't see the Fox News (most watched news channel) report where Project Veritas infiltrated the CNN boardroom and tape recorded the owner Jeff Zucker basically saying to his higher ups " Fuck the news, get Trump". 
    The network nightly news pulls 3x as many viewers as fox. That's where swing voters get their information. 
    Sorry. I meant to say cable news. So what did you think of the report?
    It's irrelevant to me.  I have no expectation that news be fair.  Historically,  political parties had their own organs.  

    Im aware of the report, as I saw it on Drudge.  That guy pled down from a felony for fraud or something,  so you'll have to excuse me for not digging deep. 
  • TJ25487 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    The Barr/Durham investigation is coming to a close. I'm sure you all will discount that as lies and propaganda as well. 
    We’ve been collectively holding our breath since January 2018. What’s taking so long?
    You might be thinking of the Inspector Generals Investigation which has been going on since then but the Attorney General's separate investigation was started this past May I believe. The IG can only report but can't indict. The AG can indict. BTW the AG probe just got upgraded to a criminal investigation which may mean they are finding out about some nefarious deeds by the Obama DOJ/FBI, many of whom have already quit or have been fired for misconduct. 
    I’ll keep holding my breath. You had two years of a repub Congress that had full investigative power and instead of conducting investigations and hearings, you had a record number of repubs resign, lost the house to the dems in the midterms and lost a few seats in the senate. Thus far, for 2020, you have 19 repubs not running in the house and it appears you’ll lose the senate, on what should be riding the coattails of the very stable genius. No Obama era convictions, never mind malfescence. You got nothing.
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  • TJ25487TJ25487 Posts: 1,475
    TJ25487 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    Nolte: Dem Star Impeachment Witness Vindman Confirms Trump Did Nothing Wrong

    Another swing and a miss by the left. 

    https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/10/30/nolte-dem-star-impeachment-witness-vindman-confirms-trump-did-nothing-wrong/
    Are you completely daft?  He went straight to NSC lawyers with concerns.  Read his damn opening statement and stop getting information Nolte on Breitbart.  All he does is write propaganda for the those without critical thinking skills.  Read the opening statement and then tell me that Vindman thinks everything was fine.  Christ almighty..  https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/Read-Alexander-Vindmans-Opening-Statement-on-Trumps-Ukraine-Call-564036951.html

    How about a nice easy quote?  "I was concerned by the call," Vindman wrote in his opening statement. "I did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen, and I was worried about the implications for the U.S. government’s support of Ukraine."

    The statement went on to say: "I realized that if Ukraine pursued an investigation into the Bidens and Burisma, it would likely be interpreted as a partisan play which would undoubtedly result in Ukraine losing the bipartisan support it has thus far maintained. This would all undermine U.S. national security. Following the call, I again reported my concerns to NSC’s lead counsel."

    Get out of your bubble and deal with facts.  


    I'm not as daft as your going to look when this impeachment charade is over. Vindman, Shiff, Nadler, Brennon, Clapper, Comey, Struck, Paige Pelosi, Baker, Simpson, Steele etc. etc. can all go whining and crying to anybody they want saying that Trump did this or did that but in the end nothing sticks as Trump breaking the law. For Christ sake you guys! The only reason we are hearing about all the crazy stuff Trump says is because all of his private conversations get leaked out because of all the partisan hacks in Washington that have been trying to take him out since before he took office. Nobody ever leaked Obama's conversations as they were protecting him, other than when he got caught on tape telling a Russian ambassador to " tell Vladimir that I will have more flexibility after my last election".

     If our wives or significant others heard all of our private conversations that we have amongst friends and acquaintances they would probably leave us. 

    Back to Ukraine: Nevermind the Quid Pro Quo where Biden said that if they don't fire the investigator that is looking into the company that his son worked for (who had no reason to work there) that he would withhold a billion dollars of tax payer money. That is the real smoking gun that nobody wants to look into for fear of finding out the truth. 

    Next up: John Bolton who of course the media is going to prop up as the best guy since Abe Lincoln when all they have ever done in the past is label him as a crazy fool which he very well could be. 

    Stay tuned! 
    Are you really trying to equate calls and conversations regarding governmental business to private conversations with friends? 
     
    There’s a reason that people are reporting these, and it’s because they’re concerned that they break the law. 


    TJ24587 says:

    Yes there is a difference between personal and business conversations. I am saying that Obama could have been heard saying that he murdered someone and nobody would have said boo. Heck! He was even caught on tape telling a Russian ambassador " Tell Putin I will have more flexibility after the next election" I'm sure that didn't have any suspicious implications??? I know I know, Obama has a big heart! 

    So they are reporting his private comments because they are concerned citizens huh? Where were they when the Obama administration wire tapped Trump Tower and when Samantha Powers unmasked a bunch of private citizens? Not to mention when they started spying on Carter Paige. Oh and where was the press when Hillary was throwing subpoena'd government servers out her window and smashing her cell phones with hammers??? I guess the media was busy with more important news of the day?
    You enjoying that fruit from the poisonous tree an awful lot. Be careful, you’ll feel bloated and make rash decisions. Like spike the football. Speaking of which, when will you reference the four page CYA Barr summary report in Team Trump Treason’s defense? Asking for a friend.

    TJ24587 says:

    Well you sound like sour grapes which can also bloat you and cause you to vote for a left wing radical socialist for a president. Are you asking about the Barr Summary report that Mueller and Rod "I'll wear a wire" Rosenstein read and approved? The one that Mueller said he would not add to? Tell your friend that the Barr summary summed up the Mueller report just fine. Better yet refer your friend to Muellers official testimony where he sounded like a blathering idiot who didn't sound like he read his own report as it most likely was written by the corrupt Andrew Wisemann who has a history of putting innocent people in jail. 
  • TJ25487TJ25487 Posts: 1,475
    TJ25487 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    The Barr/Durham investigation is coming to a close. I'm sure you all will discount that as lies and propaganda as well. 
    We’ve been collectively holding our breath since January 2018. What’s taking so long?
    You might be thinking of the Inspector Generals Investigation which has been going on since then but the Attorney General's separate investigation was started this past May I believe. The IG can only report but can't indict. The AG can indict. BTW the AG probe just got upgraded to a criminal investigation which may mean they are finding out about some nefarious deeds by the Obama DOJ/FBI, many of whom have already quit or have been fired for misconduct. 
    I’ll keep holding my breath. You had two years of a repub Congress that had full investigative power and instead of conducting investigations and hearings, you had a record number of repubs resign, lost the house to the dems in the midterms and lost a few seats in the senate. Thus far, for 2020, you have 19 repubs not running in the house and it appears you’ll lose the senate, on what should be riding the coattails of the very stable genius. No Obama era convictions, never mind malfescence. You got nothing.
    The Repubs are corrupt politicians as well. During the day the Dems and Repubs hate each other then at night go out to dinner together. 
    99 percent of the Republicans wouldn't touch Trump when he first got into office as they felt he was toxic and was going to flame out and they didn't want to be associated with him and go down with him. When they saw that he was actually a great president and started whipping the lazy leaches of allies into shape and fighting to bring jobs back and stand up against the America fleecing China most of them went " oh shit" and jumped on board and here we are today. So yes when the Republicans had the house and Senate they didn't do shit and now that the Dems have the house they have done less than shit. So I'm sure if what you laughably say is true and they win the House and Senate I'm sure they will square this country away. All evidence to the contrary though. 
  • TJ25487TJ25487 Posts: 1,475
    Smellyman said:
    TJ25487 said:
    TJ, being a Republican is a choice. Being a whatever(liberal, independent, satanist) is a choice. 

    Sticking with a belligerent racist criminal traitor is ignorant and just makes you look uninformed and gives your arguments no merit. This guy is the worst president in the history of the United States and it’s not even close. W got us into two forever wars. Carter was incompetent but had a good heart. Clinton and his wife are criminals too but guess what. News flash. She lost. The only people that still bring her up are Trumpers that have no merit for an argument. 

    Part of being an adult is admitting when your wrong. The laundry list of infractions and all of the associates of Trump and his family that have already been arrested and are getting indicted is growing. His prior and current administration lackeys are singing like birds in spring. 

    When will you and others realize that putting a known con man into office was a bad choice. Find another Republican with some merit to right the ship. I agree with some republican ideas. But I’m an environmental tree hugger who also understands that there can be a balance of consumerism and environmentalism. 

    This guy is a lost cause and from what it looks like a treasonous traitor. Ask the Kurds. Look at who benefits from that withdrawal. Russia. Remember when the republicans were the fuck Russia party and this buffoon welcomes them with open arms and gift bags. 

    To sum it up, it’s better to admit when your wrong and get on the rescue ship instead of going down with the titanic. We are Humans first and Americans second. History and present day will show that this criminal was the downfall of America and hopefully whoever comes next regardless of party can right the wrong. 
    PJ - I respect your opinions and you make some good points here but feel your opinions are a bit skewed as you believe mine are. 
    I am neither a Republican or Democrat

    There is a Youtube video of a Gene Simmons from Kiss interview where the interviewer asks Gene who was talking of his conservative views if he was a Democrat or a Republican. His answer: "I'm an American". As I previously have mentioned. I voted for Obama in his first term. 
  • TJ25487 said:
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    Nolte: Dem Star Impeachment Witness Vindman Confirms Trump Did Nothing Wrong

    Another swing and a miss by the left. 

    https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/10/30/nolte-dem-star-impeachment-witness-vindman-confirms-trump-did-nothing-wrong/
    Are you completely daft?  He went straight to NSC lawyers with concerns.  Read his damn opening statement and stop getting information Nolte on Breitbart.  All he does is write propaganda for the those without critical thinking skills.  Read the opening statement and then tell me that Vindman thinks everything was fine.  Christ almighty..  https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/Read-Alexander-Vindmans-Opening-Statement-on-Trumps-Ukraine-Call-564036951.html

    How about a nice easy quote?  "I was concerned by the call," Vindman wrote in his opening statement. "I did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen, and I was worried about the implications for the U.S. government’s support of Ukraine."

    The statement went on to say: "I realized that if Ukraine pursued an investigation into the Bidens and Burisma, it would likely be interpreted as a partisan play which would undoubtedly result in Ukraine losing the bipartisan support it has thus far maintained. This would all undermine U.S. national security. Following the call, I again reported my concerns to NSC’s lead counsel."

    Get out of your bubble and deal with facts.  


    I'm not as daft as your going to look when this impeachment charade is over. Vindman, Shiff, Nadler, Brennon, Clapper, Comey, Struck, Paige Pelosi, Baker, Simpson, Steele etc. etc. can all go whining and crying to anybody they want saying that Trump did this or did that but in the end nothing sticks as Trump breaking the law. For Christ sake you guys! The only reason we are hearing about all the crazy stuff Trump says is because all of his private conversations get leaked out because of all the partisan hacks in Washington that have been trying to take him out since before he took office. Nobody ever leaked Obama's conversations as they were protecting him, other than when he got caught on tape telling a Russian ambassador to " tell Vladimir that I will have more flexibility after my last election".

     If our wives or significant others heard all of our private conversations that we have amongst friends and acquaintances they would probably leave us. 

    Back to Ukraine: Nevermind the Quid Pro Quo where Biden said that if they don't fire the investigator that is looking into the company that his son worked for (who had no reason to work there) that he would withhold a billion dollars of tax payer money. That is the real smoking gun that nobody wants to look into for fear of finding out the truth. 

    Next up: John Bolton who of course the media is going to prop up as the best guy since Abe Lincoln when all they have ever done in the past is label him as a crazy fool which he very well could be. 

    Stay tuned! 
    Are you really trying to equate calls and conversations regarding governmental business to private conversations with friends? 
     
    There’s a reason that people are reporting these, and it’s because they’re concerned that they break the law. 


    TJ24587 says:

    Yes there is a difference between personal and business conversations. I am saying that Obama could have been heard saying that he murdered someone and nobody would have said boo. Heck! He was even caught on tape telling a Russian ambassador " Tell Putin I will have more flexibility after the next election" I'm sure that didn't have any suspicious implications??? I know I know, Obama has a big heart! 

    So they are reporting his private comments because they are concerned citizens huh? Where were they when the Obama administration wire tapped Trump Tower and when Samantha Powers unmasked a bunch of private citizens? Not to mention when they started spying on Carter Paige. Oh and where was the press when Hillary was throwing subpoena'd government servers out her window and smashing her cell phones with hammers??? I guess the media was busy with more important news of the day?
    You enjoying that fruit from the poisonous tree an awful lot. Be careful, you’ll feel bloated and make rash decisions. Like spike the football. Speaking of which, when will you reference the four page CYA Barr summary report in Team Trump Treason’s defense? Asking for a friend.

    TJ24587 says:

    Well you sound like sour grapes which can also bloat you and cause you to vote for a left wing radical socialist for a president. Are you asking about the Barr Summary report that Mueller and Rod "I'll wear a wire" Rosenstein read and approved? The one that Mueller said he would not add to? Tell your friend that the Barr summary summed up the Mueller report just fine. Better yet refer your friend to Muellers official testimony where he sounded like a blathering idiot who didn't sound like he read his own report as it most likely was written by the corrupt Andrew Wisemann who has a history of putting innocent people in jail. 
    Was you there?
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    Nolte: Dem Star Impeachment Witness Vindman Confirms Trump Did Nothing Wrong

    Another swing and a miss by the left. 

    https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/10/30/nolte-dem-star-impeachment-witness-vindman-confirms-trump-did-nothing-wrong/
    Are you completely daft?  He went straight to NSC lawyers with concerns.  Read his damn opening statement and stop getting information Nolte on Breitbart.  All he does is write propaganda for the those without critical thinking skills.  Read the opening statement and then tell me that Vindman thinks everything was fine.  Christ almighty..  https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/Read-Alexander-Vindmans-Opening-Statement-on-Trumps-Ukraine-Call-564036951.html

    How about a nice easy quote?  "I was concerned by the call," Vindman wrote in his opening statement. "I did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen, and I was worried about the implications for the U.S. government’s support of Ukraine."

    The statement went on to say: "I realized that if Ukraine pursued an investigation into the Bidens and Burisma, it would likely be interpreted as a partisan play which would undoubtedly result in Ukraine losing the bipartisan support it has thus far maintained. This would all undermine U.S. national security. Following the call, I again reported my concerns to NSC’s lead counsel."

    Get out of your bubble and deal with facts.  


    I'm not as daft as your going to look when this impeachment charade is over. Vindman, Shiff, Nadler, Brennon, Clapper, Comey, Struck, Paige Pelosi, Baker, Simpson, Steele etc. etc. can all go whining and crying to anybody they want saying that Trump did this or did that but in the end nothing sticks as Trump breaking the law. For Christ sake you guys! The only reason we are hearing about all the crazy stuff Trump says is because all of his private conversations get leaked out because of all the partisan hacks in Washington that have been trying to take him out since before he took office. Nobody ever leaked Obama's conversations as they were protecting him, other than when he got caught on tape telling a Russian ambassador to " tell Vladimir that I will have more flexibility after my last election".

     If our wives or significant others heard all of our private conversations that we have amongst friends and acquaintances they would probably leave us. 

    Back to Ukraine: Nevermind the Quid Pro Quo where Biden said that if they don't fire the investigator that is looking into the company that his son worked for (who had no reason to work there) that he would withhold a billion dollars of tax payer money. That is the real smoking gun that nobody wants to look into for fear of finding out the truth. 

    Next up: John Bolton who of course the media is going to prop up as the best guy since Abe Lincoln when all they have ever done in the past is label him as a crazy fool which he very well could be. 

    Stay tuned! 
    Are you really trying to equate calls and conversations regarding governmental business to private conversations with friends? 
     
    There’s a reason that people are reporting these, and it’s because they’re concerned that they break the law. 


    TJ24587 says:

    Yes there is a difference between personal and business conversations. I am saying that Obama could have been heard saying that he murdered someone and nobody would have said boo. Heck! He was even caught on tape telling a Russian ambassador " Tell Putin I will have more flexibility after the next election" I'm sure that didn't have any suspicious implications??? I know I know, Obama has a big heart! 

    So they are reporting his private comments because they are concerned citizens huh? Where were they when the Obama administration wire tapped Trump Tower and when Samantha Powers unmasked a bunch of private citizens? Not to mention when they started spying on Carter Paige. Oh and where was the press when Hillary was throwing subpoena'd government servers out her window and smashing her cell phones with hammers??? I guess the media was busy with more important news of the day?
    You enjoying that fruit from the poisonous tree an awful lot. Be careful, you’ll feel bloated and make rash decisions. Like spike the football. Speaking of which, when will you reference the four page CYA Barr summary report in Team Trump Treason’s defense? Asking for a friend.

    TJ24587 says:

    Well you sound like sour grapes which can also bloat you and cause you to vote for a left wing radical socialist for a president. Are you asking about the Barr Summary report that Mueller and Rod "I'll wear a wire" Rosenstein read and approved? The one that Mueller said he would not add to? Tell your friend that the Barr summary summed up the Mueller report just fine. Better yet refer your friend to Muellers official testimony where he sounded like a blathering idiot who didn't sound like he read his own report as it most likely was written by the corrupt Andrew Wisemann who has a history of putting innocent people in jail. 
    Was you there?
    Was I where?
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    The Barr/Durham investigation is coming to a close. I'm sure you all will discount that as lies and propaganda as well. 
    We’ve been collectively holding our breath since January 2018. What’s taking so long?
    You might be thinking of the Inspector Generals Investigation which has been going on since then but the Attorney General's separate investigation was started this past May I believe. The IG can only report but can't indict. The AG can indict. BTW the AG probe just got upgraded to a criminal investigation which may mean they are finding out about some nefarious deeds by the Obama DOJ/FBI, many of whom have already quit or have been fired for misconduct. 
    I’ll keep holding my breath. You had two years of a repub Congress that had full investigative power and instead of conducting investigations and hearings, you had a record number of repubs resign, lost the house to the dems in the midterms and lost a few seats in the senate. Thus far, for 2020, you have 19 repubs not running in the house and it appears you’ll lose the senate, on what should be riding the coattails of the very stable genius. No Obama era convictions, never mind malfescence. You got nothing.
    The Repubs are corrupt politicians as well. During the day the Dems and Repubs hate each other then at night go out to dinner together. 
    99 percent of the Republicans wouldn't touch Trump when he first got into office as they felt he was toxic and was going to flame out and they didn't want to be associated with him and go down with him. When they saw that he was actually a great president and started whipping the lazy leaches of allies into shape and fighting to bring jobs back and stand up against the America fleecing China most of them went " oh shit" and jumped on board and here we are today. So yes when the Republicans had the house and Senate they didn't do shit and now that the Dems have the house they have done less than shit. So I'm sure if what you laughably say is true and they win the House and Senate I'm sure they will square this country away. All evidence to the contrary though. 
    Except I was referring to the congress’s investigative capabilities, not repealing and replacing Obamacare with something more beautiful, greater and less expensive. Or building a wall. Or digging more coal. Or creating more manufacturing jobs in the rust belt, etc, etc. The dem house has passed multiple pieces of legislation but Moscow Mitchy Baby is afraid of the Ghost of Obama Past and won’t bring anything to a vote. I look forward to November, do you?
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    Nolte: Dem Star Impeachment Witness Vindman Confirms Trump Did Nothing Wrong

    Another swing and a miss by the left. 

    https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/10/30/nolte-dem-star-impeachment-witness-vindman-confirms-trump-did-nothing-wrong/
    Are you completely daft?  He went straight to NSC lawyers with concerns.  Read his damn opening statement and stop getting information Nolte on Breitbart.  All he does is write propaganda for the those without critical thinking skills.  Read the opening statement and then tell me that Vindman thinks everything was fine.  Christ almighty..  https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/Read-Alexander-Vindmans-Opening-Statement-on-Trumps-Ukraine-Call-564036951.html

    How about a nice easy quote?  "I was concerned by the call," Vindman wrote in his opening statement. "I did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen, and I was worried about the implications for the U.S. government’s support of Ukraine."

    The statement went on to say: "I realized that if Ukraine pursued an investigation into the Bidens and Burisma, it would likely be interpreted as a partisan play which would undoubtedly result in Ukraine losing the bipartisan support it has thus far maintained. This would all undermine U.S. national security. Following the call, I again reported my concerns to NSC’s lead counsel."

    Get out of your bubble and deal with facts.  


    I'm not as daft as your going to look when this impeachment charade is over. Vindman, Shiff, Nadler, Brennon, Clapper, Comey, Struck, Paige Pelosi, Baker, Simpson, Steele etc. etc. can all go whining and crying to anybody they want saying that Trump did this or did that but in the end nothing sticks as Trump breaking the law. For Christ sake you guys! The only reason we are hearing about all the crazy stuff Trump says is because all of his private conversations get leaked out because of all the partisan hacks in Washington that have been trying to take him out since before he took office. Nobody ever leaked Obama's conversations as they were protecting him, other than when he got caught on tape telling a Russian ambassador to " tell Vladimir that I will have more flexibility after my last election".

     If our wives or significant others heard all of our private conversations that we have amongst friends and acquaintances they would probably leave us. 

    Back to Ukraine: Nevermind the Quid Pro Quo where Biden said that if they don't fire the investigator that is looking into the company that his son worked for (who had no reason to work there) that he would withhold a billion dollars of tax payer money. That is the real smoking gun that nobody wants to look into for fear of finding out the truth. 

    Next up: John Bolton who of course the media is going to prop up as the best guy since Abe Lincoln when all they have ever done in the past is label him as a crazy fool which he very well could be. 

    Stay tuned! 
    Are you really trying to equate calls and conversations regarding governmental business to private conversations with friends? 
     
    There’s a reason that people are reporting these, and it’s because they’re concerned that they break the law. 


    TJ24587 says:

    Yes there is a difference between personal and business conversations. I am saying that Obama could have been heard saying that he murdered someone and nobody would have said boo. Heck! He was even caught on tape telling a Russian ambassador " Tell Putin I will have more flexibility after the next election" I'm sure that didn't have any suspicious implications??? I know I know, Obama has a big heart! 

    So they are reporting his private comments because they are concerned citizens huh? Where were they when the Obama administration wire tapped Trump Tower and when Samantha Powers unmasked a bunch of private citizens? Not to mention when they started spying on Carter Paige. Oh and where was the press when Hillary was throwing subpoena'd government servers out her window and smashing her cell phones with hammers??? I guess the media was busy with more important news of the day?
    You enjoying that fruit from the poisonous tree an awful lot. Be careful, you’ll feel bloated and make rash decisions. Like spike the football. Speaking of which, when will you reference the four page CYA Barr summary report in Team Trump Treason’s defense? Asking for a friend.

    TJ24587 says:

    Well you sound like sour grapes which can also bloat you and cause you to vote for a left wing radical socialist for a president. Are you asking about the Barr Summary report that Mueller and Rod "I'll wear a wire" Rosenstein read and approved? The one that Mueller said he would not add to? Tell your friend that the Barr summary summed up the Mueller report just fine. Better yet refer your friend to Muellers official testimony where he sounded like a blathering idiot who didn't sound like he read his own report as it most likely was written by the corrupt Andrew Wisemann who has a history of putting innocent people in jail. 
    Was you there?
    Was I where?
    With Rod when he wore the wire?
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    TJ25487 said:
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    mrussel1 said:
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    Nolte: Dem Star Impeachment Witness Vindman Confirms Trump Did Nothing Wrong

    Another swing and a miss by the left. 

    https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/10/30/nolte-dem-star-impeachment-witness-vindman-confirms-trump-did-nothing-wrong/
    Are you completely daft?  He went straight to NSC lawyers with concerns.  Read his damn opening statement and stop getting information Nolte on Breitbart.  All he does is write propaganda for the those without critical thinking skills.  Read the opening statement and then tell me that Vindman thinks everything was fine.  Christ almighty..  https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/Read-Alexander-Vindmans-Opening-Statement-on-Trumps-Ukraine-Call-564036951.html

    How about a nice easy quote?  "I was concerned by the call," Vindman wrote in his opening statement. "I did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen, and I was worried about the implications for the U.S. government’s support of Ukraine."

    The statement went on to say: "I realized that if Ukraine pursued an investigation into the Bidens and Burisma, it would likely be interpreted as a partisan play which would undoubtedly result in Ukraine losing the bipartisan support it has thus far maintained. This would all undermine U.S. national security. Following the call, I again reported my concerns to NSC’s lead counsel."

    Get out of your bubble and deal with facts.  


    I'm not as daft as your going to look when this impeachment charade is over. Vindman, Shiff, Nadler, Brennon, Clapper, Comey, Struck, Paige Pelosi, Baker, Simpson, Steele etc. etc. can all go whining and crying to anybody they want saying that Trump did this or did that but in the end nothing sticks as Trump breaking the law. For Christ sake you guys! The only reason we are hearing about all the crazy stuff Trump says is because all of his private conversations get leaked out because of all the partisan hacks in Washington that have been trying to take him out since before he took office. Nobody ever leaked Obama's conversations as they were protecting him, other than when he got caught on tape telling a Russian ambassador to " tell Vladimir that I will have more flexibility after my last election".

     If our wives or significant others heard all of our private conversations that we have amongst friends and acquaintances they would probably leave us. 

    Back to Ukraine: Nevermind the Quid Pro Quo where Biden said that if they don't fire the investigator that is looking into the company that his son worked for (who had no reason to work there) that he would withhold a billion dollars of tax payer money. That is the real smoking gun that nobody wants to look into for fear of finding out the truth. 

    Next up: John Bolton who of course the media is going to prop up as the best guy since Abe Lincoln when all they have ever done in the past is label him as a crazy fool which he very well could be. 

    Stay tuned! 
    Are you really trying to equate calls and conversations regarding governmental business to private conversations with friends? 
     
    There’s a reason that people are reporting these, and it’s because they’re concerned that they break the law. 


    TJ24587 says:

    Yes there is a difference between personal and business conversations. I am saying that Obama could have been heard saying that he murdered someone and nobody would have said boo. Heck! He was even caught on tape telling a Russian ambassador " Tell Putin I will have more flexibility after the next election" I'm sure that didn't have any suspicious implications??? I know I know, Obama has a big heart! 

    So they are reporting his private comments because they are concerned citizens huh? Where were they when the Obama administration wire tapped Trump Tower and when Samantha Powers unmasked a bunch of private citizens? Not to mention when they started spying on Carter Paige. Oh and where was the press when Hillary was throwing subpoena'd government servers out her window and smashing her cell phones with hammers??? I guess the media was busy with more important news of the day?
    You enjoying that fruit from the poisonous tree an awful lot. Be careful, you’ll feel bloated and make rash decisions. Like spike the football. Speaking of which, when will you reference the four page CYA Barr summary report in Team Trump Treason’s defense? Asking for a friend.

    TJ24587 says:

    Well you sound like sour grapes which can also bloat you and cause you to vote for a left wing radical socialist for a president. Are you asking about the Barr Summary report that Mueller and Rod "I'll wear a wire" Rosenstein read and approved? The one that Mueller said he would not add to? Tell your friend that the Barr summary summed up the Mueller report just fine. Better yet refer your friend to Muellers official testimony where he sounded like a blathering idiot who didn't sound like he read his own report as it most likely was written by the corrupt Andrew Wisemann who has a history of putting innocent people in jail. 
    Was you there?
    Was I where?
    With Rod when he wore the wire?
    No as he never wore the wire. They just talked about it. 
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    mrussel1 said:
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    Nolte: Dem Star Impeachment Witness Vindman Confirms Trump Did Nothing Wrong

    Another swing and a miss by the left. 

    https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/10/30/nolte-dem-star-impeachment-witness-vindman-confirms-trump-did-nothing-wrong/
    Are you completely daft?  He went straight to NSC lawyers with concerns.  Read his damn opening statement and stop getting information Nolte on Breitbart.  All he does is write propaganda for the those without critical thinking skills.  Read the opening statement and then tell me that Vindman thinks everything was fine.  Christ almighty..  https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/Read-Alexander-Vindmans-Opening-Statement-on-Trumps-Ukraine-Call-564036951.html

    How about a nice easy quote?  "I was concerned by the call," Vindman wrote in his opening statement. "I did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen, and I was worried about the implications for the U.S. government’s support of Ukraine."

    The statement went on to say: "I realized that if Ukraine pursued an investigation into the Bidens and Burisma, it would likely be interpreted as a partisan play which would undoubtedly result in Ukraine losing the bipartisan support it has thus far maintained. This would all undermine U.S. national security. Following the call, I again reported my concerns to NSC’s lead counsel."

    Get out of your bubble and deal with facts.  


    I'm not as daft as your going to look when this impeachment charade is over. Vindman, Shiff, Nadler, Brennon, Clapper, Comey, Struck, Paige Pelosi, Baker, Simpson, Steele etc. etc. can all go whining and crying to anybody they want saying that Trump did this or did that but in the end nothing sticks as Trump breaking the law. For Christ sake you guys! The only reason we are hearing about all the crazy stuff Trump says is because all of his private conversations get leaked out because of all the partisan hacks in Washington that have been trying to take him out since before he took office. Nobody ever leaked Obama's conversations as they were protecting him, other than when he got caught on tape telling a Russian ambassador to " tell Vladimir that I will have more flexibility after my last election".

     If our wives or significant others heard all of our private conversations that we have amongst friends and acquaintances they would probably leave us. 

    Back to Ukraine: Nevermind the Quid Pro Quo where Biden said that if they don't fire the investigator that is looking into the company that his son worked for (who had no reason to work there) that he would withhold a billion dollars of tax payer money. That is the real smoking gun that nobody wants to look into for fear of finding out the truth. 

    Next up: John Bolton who of course the media is going to prop up as the best guy since Abe Lincoln when all they have ever done in the past is label him as a crazy fool which he very well could be. 

    Stay tuned! 
    Are you really trying to equate calls and conversations regarding governmental business to private conversations with friends? 
     
    There’s a reason that people are reporting these, and it’s because they’re concerned that they break the law. 


    TJ24587 says:

    Yes there is a difference between personal and business conversations. I am saying that Obama could have been heard saying that he murdered someone and nobody would have said boo. Heck! He was even caught on tape telling a Russian ambassador " Tell Putin I will have more flexibility after the next election" I'm sure that didn't have any suspicious implications??? I know I know, Obama has a big heart! 

    So they are reporting his private comments because they are concerned citizens huh? Where were they when the Obama administration wire tapped Trump Tower and when Samantha Powers unmasked a bunch of private citizens? Not to mention when they started spying on Carter Paige. Oh and where was the press when Hillary was throwing subpoena'd government servers out her window and smashing her cell phones with hammers??? I guess the media was busy with more important news of the day?
    You enjoying that fruit from the poisonous tree an awful lot. Be careful, you’ll feel bloated and make rash decisions. Like spike the football. Speaking of which, when will you reference the four page CYA Barr summary report in Team Trump Treason’s defense? Asking for a friend.

    TJ24587 says:

    Well you sound like sour grapes which can also bloat you and cause you to vote for a left wing radical socialist for a president. Are you asking about the Barr Summary report that Mueller and Rod "I'll wear a wire" Rosenstein read and approved? The one that Mueller said he would not add to? Tell your friend that the Barr summary summed up the Mueller report just fine. Better yet refer your friend to Muellers official testimony where he sounded like a blathering idiot who didn't sound like he read his own report as it most likely was written by the corrupt Andrew Wisemann who has a history of putting innocent people in jail. 
    Was you there?
    Was I where?
    With Rod when he wore the wire?
    No as he never wore the wire. They just talked about it. 
    Was you there when they talked about it?
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  • TJ25487TJ25487 Posts: 1,475
    TJ25487 said:
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    The Barr/Durham investigation is coming to a close. I'm sure you all will discount that as lies and propaganda as well. 
    We’ve been collectively holding our breath since January 2018. What’s taking so long?
    You might be thinking of the Inspector Generals Investigation which has been going on since then but the Attorney General's separate investigation was started this past May I believe. The IG can only report but can't indict. The AG can indict. BTW the AG probe just got upgraded to a criminal investigation which may mean they are finding out about some nefarious deeds by the Obama DOJ/FBI, many of whom have already quit or have been fired for misconduct. 
    I’ll keep holding my breath. You had two years of a repub Congress that had full investigative power and instead of conducting investigations and hearings, you had a record number of repubs resign, lost the house to the dems in the midterms and lost a few seats in the senate. Thus far, for 2020, you have 19 repubs not running in the house and it appears you’ll lose the senate, on what should be riding the coattails of the very stable genius. No Obama era convictions, never mind malfescence. You got nothing.
    The Repubs are corrupt politicians as well. During the day the Dems and Repubs hate each other then at night go out to dinner together. 
    99 percent of the Republicans wouldn't touch Trump when he first got into office as they felt he was toxic and was going to flame out and they didn't want to be associated with him and go down with him. When they saw that he was actually a great president and started whipping the lazy leaches of allies into shape and fighting to bring jobs back and stand up against the America fleecing China most of them went " oh shit" and jumped on board and here we are today. So yes when the Republicans had the house and Senate they didn't do shit and now that the Dems have the house they have done less than shit. So I'm sure if what you laughably say is true and they win the House and Senate I'm sure they will square this country away. All evidence to the contrary though. 
    Except I was referring to the congress’s investigative capabilities, not repealing and replacing Obamacare with something more beautiful, greater and less expensive. Or building a wall. Or digging more coal. Or creating more manufacturing jobs in the rust belt, etc, etc. The dem house has passed multiple pieces of legislation but Moscow Mitchy Baby is afraid of the Ghost of Obama Past and won’t bring anything to a vote. I look forward to November, do you?
    I don't know why Mitch wouldn't bring the "New Green Deal" to a vote? Maybe he likes eating steak? 
    As far as November goes I am looking forward to Keeping America Great. Thankfully the majority of the young millennials that have been brainwashed by the mostly left wing learning institutions don't vote. And as of now illegal aliens can only vote in California. 
    See you at the polls. 
  • TJ25487TJ25487 Posts: 1,475
    Sorry guys as must apologize for pooping on everyone's parade. Up until recently I only ever was on the Porch forum and then somebody started a thread asking which forum most of us frequent and I saw that the Porch was not that big of a hit and this forum saw the most action so I had to come over here and check it out. I quickly glommed onto this thread and away I went. Well now that I have been looking around here at some of the other threads I see that it is mostly patronized by about about ten people who are mostly IMO left wing tree hugging climate enthusiasts and there is nothing wrong with that. Not my cup of tea but nothing wrong with it. After letting off a bunch of    steam on this thread I feel I have got out some pent up political frustrations and will leave you guys alone as I don't want to break up your party. You were here first and I respect that. I am only here because of my love for Pearl Jam and I don't want to ruin that over political differences. 
    Thanks for listening. 
  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    tree hugging climate enthusiast > Racist, bigoted, polluting, misogynistic, treasonous, deficit building, ally distancing, Russian loving, pussy grabbing, colluding maga morons
  • TJ25487TJ25487 Posts: 1,475
    Smellyman said:
    tree hugging climate enthusiast > Racist, bigoted, polluting, misogynistic, treasonous, deficit building, ally distancing, Russian loving, pussy grabbing, colluding maga morons
    Yep, sounding like your typical democrat every four years. Touch'e
  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,097
    TJ25487 said:
    Sorry guys as must apologize for pooping on everyone's parade. Up until recently I only ever was on the Porch forum and then somebody started a thread asking which forum most of us frequent and I saw that the Porch was not that big of a hit and this forum saw the most action so I had to come over here and check it out. I quickly glommed onto this thread and away I went. Well now that I have been looking around here at some of the other threads I see that it is mostly patronized by about about ten people who are mostly IMO left wing tree hugging climate enthusiasts and there is nothing wrong with that. Not my cup of tea but nothing wrong with it. After letting off a bunch of    steam on this thread I feel I have got out some pent up political frustrations and will leave you guys alone as I don't want to break up your party. You were here first and I respect that. I am only here because of my love for Pearl Jam and I don't want to ruin that over political differences. 
    Thanks for listening. 
    You're not ruining anything, you just came, shat out a bunch of copied and pasted 'victories' that you refused to debate their validity on, and left. If your party does have ideals or good ideas, you didn't represent them here, and you made your side look as ignorant and undereducated as ever. Take care.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,174
    TJ25487 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    The Barr/Durham investigation is coming to a close. I'm sure you all will discount that as lies and propaganda as well. 
    We’ve been collectively holding our breath since January 2018. What’s taking so long?
    You might be thinking of the Inspector Generals Investigation which has been going on since then but the Attorney General's separate investigation was started this past May I believe. The IG can only report but can't indict. The AG can indict. BTW the AG probe just got upgraded to a criminal investigation which may mean they are finding out about some nefarious deeds by the Obama DOJ/FBI, many of whom have already quit or have been fired for misconduct. 
    I’ll keep holding my breath. You had two years of a repub Congress that had full investigative power and instead of conducting investigations and hearings, you had a record number of repubs resign, lost the house to the dems in the midterms and lost a few seats in the senate. Thus far, for 2020, you have 19 repubs not running in the house and it appears you’ll lose the senate, on what should be riding the coattails of the very stable genius. No Obama era convictions, never mind malfescence. You got nothing.
    The Repubs are corrupt politicians as well. During the day the Dems and Repubs hate each other then at night go out to dinner together. 
    99 percent of the Republicans wouldn't touch Trump when he first got into office as they felt he was toxic and was going to flame out and they didn't want to be associated with him and go down with him. When they saw that he was actually a great president and started whipping the lazy leaches of allies into shape and fighting to bring jobs back and stand up against the America fleecing China most of them went " oh shit" and jumped on board and here we are today. So yes when the Republicans had the house and Senate they didn't do shit and now that the Dems have the house they have done less than shit. So I'm sure if what you laughably say is true and they win the House and Senate I'm sure they will square this country away. All evidence to the contrary though. 
    Great president lol he will down as thee most corrupt disgraceful disgusting Baffoon to occupy the WH there’s not even a close 2nd , ask the coal miners are they tired of all the jobs coming back ? 
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    If Bernie or Warren said they know how to get public health care and Canada will pay for it, I'd call them a fucking idiot and never vote for them.

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