When everybody on Earth knows what an awful decision he was making, it's amazing that it is just allowed to happen. Nobody at the Pentagon, Generals, his sycophant cabinet, nobody steps in and throws amendment 25 at him or does more whistleblowing. They are all complicit.
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so how are we at odds with turkey that ops at incirlik are at risk?
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so how are we at odds with turkey that ops at incirlik are at risk?
Turkey is invading Kurdish held territory... we are retreating and if we leave that base, the nukes will be hostages until and if we can remove them. This will take a tremendous amount of logistical security and even construction to wherever they go, if we get them.
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so how are we at odds with turkey that ops at incirlik are at risk?
Turkey is invading Kurdish held territory... we are retreating and if we leave that base, the nukes will be hostages until and if we can remove them. This will take a tremendous amount of logistical security and even construction to wherever they go, if we get them.
still not understanding the need to leave incirlik. has there been talk from official sources?
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so how are we at odds with turkey that ops at incirlik are at risk?
Turkey is invading Kurdish held territory... we are retreating and if we leave that base, the nukes will be hostages until and if we can remove them. This will take a tremendous amount of logistical security and even construction to wherever they go, if we get them.
still not understanding the need to leave incirlik. has there been talk from official sources?
I'm not getting the connection.
The official source is sending mortars to US positions, even after being warned.
They have terrorists within their Army & are not doing what they told our moronic president they wanted to do. Create a safety zone & resettle displaced Syrians.
They are just attacking the Kurds, moving further South every day. They lied to Trump. He was stupid to believe them, but I digress.
US forces would not safely be able to enter Turkey right now. We definitely couldn't waltz in & just remove our nukes.
Turkey may be a NATO ally in name but they are not our friend. Hopefully Trump is realizing that.
I'm just worried about the US soldiers stuck in the middle of this insanity. Perry & Pompeo are on this so ..... idk.
Turkey bad, nukes dangerous, possession is 90%, US not possessing.
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so how are we at odds with turkey that ops at incirlik are at risk?
Turkey is invading Kurdish held territory... we are retreating and if we leave that base, the nukes will be hostages until and if we can remove them. This will take a tremendous amount of logistical security and even construction to wherever they go, if we get them.
still not understanding the need to leave incirlik. has there been talk from official sources?
I'm not getting the connection.
The official source is sending mortars to US positions, even after being warned.
They have terrorists within their Army & are not doing what they told our moronic president they wanted to do. Create a safety zone & resettle displaced Syrians.
They are just attacking the Kurds, moving further South every day. They lied to Trump. He was stupid to believe them, but I digress.
US forces would not safely be able to enter Turkey right now. We definitely couldn't waltz in & just remove our nukes.
Turkey may be a NATO ally in name but they are not our friend. Hopefully Trump is realizing that.
I'm just worried about the US soldiers stuck in the middle of this insanity. Perry & Pompeo are on this so ..... idk.
Turkey bad, nukes dangerous, possession is 90%, US not possessing.
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Incirlik Air Base has a U.S. Air Force complement of about five thousand airmen, with several hundred airmen from the Royal Air Force and Turkish Air Force also present, as of late 2002. The primary unit stationed at Incirlik Air Base is the 39th Air Base Wing (39 ABW) of the U.S. Air Force. Incirlik Air Base has one 3,048 m (10,000 ft)-long runway,[6][7] located among about 57 hardened aircraft shelters. Tactical nuclear weapons are stored at the base.[8]
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I pretty sure the Turkish army has not taken over a staffed USAF base and started pilfering the nuclear weapons. Shit's mad uncomfortable there for sure but that's what happens when you're "all about our great military being respected around the world..." and you "know more than the generals".
In 2017 he told a reporter, right after his first meeting with President Vladimir Putin of Russia, that it was his “gut feel” for how to deal with foreign leaders, honed over years in the real estate world, that guided him. “Foreign policy is what I’ll be remembered for,” he said.
In 2017 he told a reporter, right after his first meeting with President Vladimir Putin of Russia, that it was his “gut feel” for how to deal with foreign leaders, honed over years in the real estate world, that guided him. “Foreign policy is what I’ll be remembered for,” he said.
I think you have to put all of the pieces together rather than one..
1. The US is retreating from area held in Turkey 2. 50 tactical warheads are stored in Turkey 3. The US is now instilling sanctions on Turkey as Trump threatens to "totally destroy" the Turkish economy 4. Turkey is being aided by Russia, as Russia has moved into areas vacated by teh US and now "patrolling areas" 5. Turkey and the US are moving towards colder relationships 6. Turkish troops will have complete control of the area surrounding the NATO base 7. Removal of the nukes into US controlled space will require cooperation by the Turks and presumably Russia. You can't airlift these out like Saigon. 8. This makes these nukes effectively hostages.
I think you have to put all of the pieces together rather than one..
1. The US is retreating from area held in Turkey 2. 50 tactical warheads are stored in Turkey 3. The US is now instilling sanctions on Turkey as Trump threatens to "totally destroy" the Turkish economy 4. Turkey is being aided by Russia, as Russia has moved into areas vacated by teh US and now "patrolling areas" 5. Turkey and the US are moving towards colder relationships 6. Turkish troops will have complete control of the area surrounding the NATO base 7. Removal of the nukes into US controlled space will require cooperation by the Turks and presumably Russia. You can't airlift these out like Saigon. 8. This makes these nukes effectively hostages.
I think you guys are way off base.
big IF are the nukes still there or were they ever.
I have a reliable source in the NATO community. They qualified their answer with yet, but have neither seen nor heard of any movement from Incirlik. And they are in a position to know.
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Take a peek at the base location. We have regular and heavy Navy presence in The Med with the 6th Fleet.....
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I think you have to put all of the pieces together rather than one..
1. The US is retreating from area held in Turkey 2. 50 tactical warheads are stored in Turkey 3. The US is now instilling sanctions on Turkey as Trump threatens to "totally destroy" the Turkish economy 4. Turkey is being aided by Russia, as Russia has moved into areas vacated by teh US and now "patrolling areas" 5. Turkey and the US are moving towards colder relationships 6. Turkish troops will have complete control of the area surrounding the NATO base 7. Removal of the nukes into US controlled space will require cooperation by the Turks and presumably Russia. You can't airlift these out like Saigon. 8. This makes these nukes effectively hostages.
I think you guys are way off base.
big IF are the nukes still there or were they ever.
I have a reliable source in the NATO community. They qualified their answer with yet, but have neither seen nor heard of any movement from Incirlik. And they are in a position to know.
It sounds like this Fiona Hill testimony was pretty damning yesterday. It appears that Bolton instructed her to go to White House lawyers with the issue. Perhaps Bolton will be up on the Hill testifying sooner than later. He will be quite the wild card.
“I am not part of whatever drug deal Sondland and Mulvaney are cooking up,” Mr. Bolton, a Yale-trained lawyer, told Ms. Hill to tell White House lawyers, according to two people at the deposition. (Another person in the room initially said Mr. Bolton referred to Mr. Giuliani and Mr. Mulvaney, but two others said he cited Mr. Sondland.)
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It sounds like this Fiona Hill testimony was pretty damning yesterday. It appears that Bolton instructed her to go to White House lawyers with the issue. Perhaps Bolton will be up on the Hill testifying sooner than later. He will be quite the wild card.
“I am not part of whatever drug deal Sondland and Mulvaney are cooking up,” Mr. Bolton, a Yale-trained lawyer, told Ms. Hill to tell White House lawyers, according to two people at the deposition. (Another person in the room initially said Mr. Bolton referred to Mr. Giuliani and Mr. Mulvaney, but two others said he cited Mr. Sondland.)
gives new perspective on his resignation now........
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I think you have to put all of the pieces together rather than one..
1. The US is retreating from area held in Turkey 2. 50 tactical warheads are stored in Turkey 3. The US is now instilling sanctions on Turkey as Trump threatens to "totally destroy" the Turkish economy 4. Turkey is being aided by Russia, as Russia has moved into areas vacated by teh US and now "patrolling areas" 5. Turkey and the US are moving towards colder relationships 6. Turkish troops will have complete control of the area surrounding the NATO base 7. Removal of the nukes into US controlled space will require cooperation by the Turks and presumably Russia. You can't airlift these out like Saigon. 8. This makes these nukes effectively hostages.
I think you guys are way off base.
big IF are the nukes still there or were they ever.
I have a reliable source in the NATO community. They qualified their answer with yet, but have neither seen nor heard of any movement from Incirlik. And they are in a position to know.
The presence of nuclear weapons at Incirlik, though never publicly
confirmed or denied by the U.S. government, has long been essentially an
open secret. It became even less of a secret earlier this year when a
Canadian senator published, apparently by accident, a document
containing the bases where the United States is keeping nuclear weapons.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-followed-his-gut-on-syria-calamity-came-fast/ar-AAILbg6
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They have terrorists within their Army & are not doing what they told our moronic president they wanted to do. Create a safety zone & resettle displaced Syrians.
They are just attacking the Kurds, moving further South every day. They lied to Trump. He was stupid to believe them, but I digress.
US forces would not safely be able to enter Turkey right now. We definitely couldn't waltz in & just remove our nukes.
Turkey may be a NATO ally in name but they are not our friend. Hopefully Trump is realizing that.
I'm just worried about the US soldiers stuck in the middle of this insanity. Perry & Pompeo are on this so ..... idk.
Turkey bad, nukes dangerous, possession is 90%, US not possessing.
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Shit's mad uncomfortable there for sure but that's what happens when you're "all about our great military being respected around the world..." and you "know more than the generals".
Mike Pence will straighten it all out.
In 2017 he told a reporter, right after his first meeting with President Vladimir Putin of Russia, that it was his “gut feel” for how to deal with foreign leaders, honed over years in the real estate world, that guided him. “Foreign policy is what I’ll be remembered for,” he said.
1. The US is retreating from area held in Turkey
2. 50 tactical warheads are stored in Turkey
3. The US is now instilling sanctions on Turkey as Trump threatens to "totally destroy" the Turkish economy
4. Turkey is being aided by Russia, as Russia has moved into areas vacated by teh US and now "patrolling areas"
5. Turkey and the US are moving towards colder relationships
6. Turkish troops will have complete control of the area surrounding the NATO base
7. Removal of the nukes into US controlled space will require cooperation by the Turks and presumably Russia. You can't airlift these out like Saigon.
8. This makes these nukes effectively hostages.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-followed-his-gut-on-syria-calamity-came-fast/ar-AAILbg6
https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2019/10/14/with-turkeys-invasion-of-syria-concerns-mount-over-nukes-at-incirlik/
He has no idea what he's doing.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/14/us/politics/bolton-giuliani-fiona-hill-testimony.html
“I am not part of whatever drug deal Sondland and Mulvaney are cooking up,” Mr. Bolton, a Yale-trained lawyer, told Ms. Hill to tell White House lawyers, according to two people at the deposition. (Another person in the room initially said Mr. Bolton referred to Mr. Giuliani and Mr. Mulvaney, but two others said he cited Mr. Sondland.)
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Why Christian music's biggest stars refuse to change their tune for the Trump era
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