Donald Trump

Lerxst1992

EdsonNascimento said:

josevolution said:

mfc2006 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

He ain't playin':

"I hope there won't be that, but I will tell you this—anybody throwing rocks... we will consider that a firearm, because there's not much difference when you get hit in the face with a rock,” Trump said to reporters in the Oval Office in his latest speech about the caravan.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/trump-says-military-at-border-will-use-lethal-force/ar-BBPef5D?ocid=spartanntp

What in the actual fuck?

Can you believe there’s still two years of this still to happen uhgg

If economy keeps humming, its 6.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to overcook the economy. Check out what they did to the section 179 and bonus depreciation laws. But that stuff swings the other way once the assets pass its accelerated deduction phase. Also check out what they did to the deficit,and what they will be doing to your Medicare if the dems lose the House.

What is a tougher challenge for our leaders is to pry some of the wealth out of the 3 richest families in the U.S.

cincybearcat

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

josevolution said:

mfc2006 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

He ain't playin':

"I hope there won't be that, but I will tell you this—anybody throwing rocks... we will consider that a firearm, because there's not much difference when you get hit in the face with a rock,” Trump said to reporters in the Oval Office in his latest speech about the caravan.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/trump-says-military-at-border-will-use-lethal-force/ar-BBPef5D?ocid=spartanntp

What in the actual fuck?

Can you believe there’s still two years of this still to happen uhgg

If economy keeps humming, its 6.

The economy is only an issue when it's bad.  That's an axiom that continues to hold true.  How many candidates are running on the tax cuts or the economy as their primary issue?  Not very many.  It's healthcare and immigration.  

In don’t know about that. Was watching tv late last night....every political ad (Ohio) was a negative add about taxes. Everyone one back to back over 2 cycles. There are a lot running on taxes in Ohio at least 

my2hands

In this area they only thing they are running on is opposition to Trump and sayi g tge republican candidate supports Trump. 

What is the Dems message right now besides Trump sucks? What is their platform, agenda, and ideas?

Ledbetterman10

my2hands said:

In this area they only thing they are running on is opposition to Trump and sayi g tge republican candidate supports Trump. 

What is the Dems message right now besides Trump sucks? What is their platform, agenda, and ideas?

Tucker Carlson posed this same question last night...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U21xq19kyA

dignin

Who cares what Tucker says.

Even up here in Canada I hear plenty about what democrats stand for. I suggest you guys find better sources then TV ads and Fox news.

Ledbetterman10

dignin said:

Who cares what Tucker says.

Even up here in Canada I hear plenty about what democrats stand for. I suggest you guys find better sources then TV ads and Fox news.

I'm not suggesting you have to "care" about what anybody says. my2hands asked "What is the Dems message right now besides Trump sucks? What is their platform, agenda, and ideas?" and Carlson asked the exact same question. So maybe my2hands would be interested in watching that video, and that's why I posted it. And then he can agree or disagree with what's said on it. 

But you have all the answers, so tell me, what are the Democrats running on? Because that's was the question: what are they running on right now during this election cycle? Not "what does the democratic party stand for?" We all know the answer to that. 

HughFreakingDillon

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Who cares what Tucker says.

Even up here in Canada I hear plenty about what democrats stand for. I suggest you guys find better sources then TV ads and Fox news.

I'm not suggesting you have to "care" about what anybody says. my2hands asked "What is the Dems message right now besides Trump sucks? What is their platform, agenda, and ideas?" and Carlson asked the exact same question. So maybe my2hands would be interested in watching that video, and that's why I posted it. And then he can agree or disagree with what's said on it. 

But you have all the answers, so tell me, what does Democratic Party stand for right now...other than Trump is horrible?

I gotta say, I don't know either. mind you, I haven't researched it, but just reading the news here and there I see basically nothing. It's nothing but "vote blue!". 

Ledbetterman10

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Who cares what Tucker says.

Even up here in Canada I hear plenty about what democrats stand for. I suggest you guys find better sources then TV ads and Fox news.

I'm not suggesting you have to "care" about what anybody says. my2hands asked "What is the Dems message right now besides Trump sucks? What is their platform, agenda, and ideas?" and Carlson asked the exact same question. So maybe my2hands would be interested in watching that video, and that's why I posted it. And then he can agree or disagree with what's said on it. 

But you have all the answers, so tell me, what does Democratic Party stand for right now...other than Trump is horrible?

I gotta say, I don't know either. mind you, I haven't researched it, but just reading the news here and there I see basically nothing. It's nothing but "vote blue!". 

I did edit my post to ask him what the dems are "running on" rather than "stand for." And yeah...I don't really know the answer either. It just seems that every stance is the antithesis of what the republicans want...which I understand to a degree...but it comes off like they have no ideas. Trump: "Caravan bad!" Democrats: "Caravan not bad!" and so on....

Halifax2TheMax

How do you have a rational conversation with anyone who doesn’t call this out? It doesn’t matter what the Dems platform is because the repubs will just lie about it, continuously. M2H is smart enough to know what the Dems stand for or capable enough to research it but he could pick a candidate and ask because the Dems aren’t running on a national platform. Dems are running on state and district issues, as well as wrapping Team Trump Treason around their necks. And they’re not just claiming Team Trump Treason sucks, they’re explaining why he sucks. And if you need someone else to explain that to you, there’s no hope.

https://apple.news/Ayr6wLtcZTB-iXB0nicxPJg

84 lies or mistruths in one day.

Ledbetterman10

Halifax2TheMax said:

 And if you need someone else to explain that to you, there’s no hope.

Jeez you are just a caricature of all the liberals that that Trump whips his base into a frenzy over. I can almost see why they buy in. Almost. 

dignin

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Who cares what Tucker says.

Even up here in Canada I hear plenty about what democrats stand for. I suggest you guys find better sources then TV ads and Fox news.

I'm not suggesting you have to "care" about what anybody says. my2hands asked "What is the Dems message right now besides Trump sucks? What is their platform, agenda, and ideas?" and Carlson asked the exact same question. So maybe my2hands would be interested in watching that video, and that's why I posted it. And then he can agree or disagree with what's said on it. 

But you have all the answers, so tell me, what are the Democrats running on? Because that's was the question: what are they running on right now during this election cycle? Not "what does the democratic party stand for?" We all know the answer to that. 

Protecting american elections from foreign attacks.

Protecting medicare.

Stopping voter purges and gerrymandering.

Against rampant irresponsible deficits.

Common sense gun reform.

Against slashing taxes on the ridiculously rich.

Against trickle down.

For DACA and immigration reform.

They are for providing a check on the executive branch.

These are just a few off the top of my head. I listen to a lot of podcasts. A great one is Pod Save America, it's out twice a week. They have democratic candidates on every show who explain what they stand for.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

 And if you need someone else to explain that to you, there’s no hope.

Jeez you are just a caricature of all the liberals that that Trump whips his base into a frenzy over. I can almost see why they buy in. Almost. 

I'll never understand why simpletons hate smart people so much. The smart people are the ones that do things like heal them or make advances in agriculture.

If you had to take an IQ test to cast a vote (something that's actually reasonable- you can't have Simple Jack voting when he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground), Trump would lose in a landslide. His base wouldn't qualify.

Ledbetterman10

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Who cares what Tucker says.

Even up here in Canada I hear plenty about what democrats stand for. I suggest you guys find better sources then TV ads and Fox news.

I'm not suggesting you have to "care" about what anybody says. my2hands asked "What is the Dems message right now besides Trump sucks? What is their platform, agenda, and ideas?" and Carlson asked the exact same question. So maybe my2hands would be interested in watching that video, and that's why I posted it. And then he can agree or disagree with what's said on it. 

But you have all the answers, so tell me, what are the Democrats running on? Because that's was the question: what are they running on right now during this election cycle? Not "what does the democratic party stand for?" We all know the answer to that. 

Protecting american elections from foreign attacks.
NOW they want this to stop after their horrible 2016 loss. American elections have been meddled in for decades. 
Protecting medicare.
This is why they'll be getting my vote. 
Stopping voter purges and gerrymandering.
Democrats are just as guilty of Gerrymandering. You should see how they changed the Pennsylvania districts. 
Against rampant irresponsible deficits.
Everyone not in power says they're doing this. 
Common sense gun reform.
They say this every election. 
Against slashing taxes on the ridiculously rich.
They say this every election. 
Against trickle down.
They say this every election. 
For DACA and immigration reform.
What kind of immigration reform?
They are for providing a check on the executive branch.
Somebody's gotta do it. I wish them luck.
These are just a few off the top of my head. I listen to a lot of podcasts. A great one is Pod Save America, it's out twice a week. They have democratic candidates on every show who explain what they stand for.

My responses are in bold

mrussel1

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Who cares what Tucker says.

Even up here in Canada I hear plenty about what democrats stand for. I suggest you guys find better sources then TV ads and Fox news.

I'm not suggesting you have to "care" about what anybody says. my2hands asked "What is the Dems message right now besides Trump sucks? What is their platform, agenda, and ideas?" and Carlson asked the exact same question. So maybe my2hands would be interested in watching that video, and that's why I posted it. And then he can agree or disagree with what's said on it. 

But you have all the answers, so tell me, what does Democratic Party stand for right now...other than Trump is horrible?

I gotta say, I don't know either. mind you, I haven't researched it, but just reading the news here and there I see basically nothing. It's nothing but "vote blue!". 

The problem is that you don't live in the States, therefore you don't see local ads.  The Democratic strategy has been to localize the issues.  I'm in a competitive race in VA-7 and the issue is healthcare on the D side and Immigration on the R side.  

mrussel1

cincybearcat said:

mrussel1 said:

EdsonNascimento said:

josevolution said:

mfc2006 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

He ain't playin':

"I hope there won't be that, but I will tell you this—anybody throwing rocks... we will consider that a firearm, because there's not much difference when you get hit in the face with a rock,” Trump said to reporters in the Oval Office in his latest speech about the caravan.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/trump-says-military-at-border-will-use-lethal-force/ar-BBPef5D?ocid=spartanntp

What in the actual fuck?

Can you believe there’s still two years of this still to happen uhgg

If economy keeps humming, its 6.

The economy is only an issue when it's bad.  That's an axiom that continues to hold true.  How many candidates are running on the tax cuts or the economy as their primary issue?  Not very many.  It's healthcare and immigration.  

In don’t know about that. Was watching tv late last night....every political ad (Ohio) was a negative add about taxes. Everyone one back to back over 2 cycles. There are a lot running on taxes in Ohio at least 

So there are negative ads about how the tax cuts only helped the wealthy and the corporations.  Taxes are not the economy and your statement actually proves my point.  The Democrats feel that, despite the 10 year Bull run, they can run effectively against the GOP tax cuts.  

HughFreakingDillon

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Who cares what Tucker says.

Even up here in Canada I hear plenty about what democrats stand for. I suggest you guys find better sources then TV ads and Fox news.

I'm not suggesting you have to "care" about what anybody says. my2hands asked "What is the Dems message right now besides Trump sucks? What is their platform, agenda, and ideas?" and Carlson asked the exact same question. So maybe my2hands would be interested in watching that video, and that's why I posted it. And then he can agree or disagree with what's said on it. 

But you have all the answers, so tell me, what does Democratic Party stand for right now...other than Trump is horrible?

I gotta say, I don't know either. mind you, I haven't researched it, but just reading the news here and there I see basically nothing. It's nothing but "vote blue!". 

The problem is that you don't live in the States, therefore you don't see local ads.  The Democratic strategy has been to localize the issues.  I'm in a competitive race in VA-7 and the issue is healthcare on the D side and Immigration on the R side.  

true enough. 

dignin

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Who cares what Tucker says.

Even up here in Canada I hear plenty about what democrats stand for. I suggest you guys find better sources then TV ads and Fox news.

I'm not suggesting you have to "care" about what anybody says. my2hands asked "What is the Dems message right now besides Trump sucks? What is their platform, agenda, and ideas?" and Carlson asked the exact same question. So maybe my2hands would be interested in watching that video, and that's why I posted it. And then he can agree or disagree with what's said on it. 

But you have all the answers, so tell me, what are the Democrats running on? Because that's was the question: what are they running on right now during this election cycle? Not "what does the democratic party stand for?" We all know the answer to that. 

Protecting american elections from foreign attacks.
NOW they want this to stop after their horrible 2016 loss. American elections have been meddled in for decades. 
Protecting medicare.
This is why they'll be getting my vote. 
Stopping voter purges and gerrymandering.
Democrats are just as guilty of Gerrymandering. You should see how they changed the Pennsylvania districts. 
Against rampant irresponsible deficits.
Everyone not in power says they're doing this. 
Common sense gun reform.
They say this every election. 
Against slashing taxes on the ridiculously rich.
They say this every election. 
Against trickle down.
They say this every election. 
For DACA and immigration reform.
What kind of immigration reform?
They are for providing a check on the executive branch.
Somebody's gotta do it. I wish them luck.
These are just a few off the top of my head. I listen to a lot of podcasts. A great one is Pod Save America, it's out twice a week. They have democratic candidates on every show who explain what they stand for.

My responses are in bold

Okay, what do you want from me? You asked and I answered. You seemed to already know what they stood for so why did you ask? 

Ledbetterman10

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Who cares what Tucker says.

Even up here in Canada I hear plenty about what democrats stand for. I suggest you guys find better sources then TV ads and Fox news.

I'm not suggesting you have to "care" about what anybody says. my2hands asked "What is the Dems message right now besides Trump sucks? What is their platform, agenda, and ideas?" and Carlson asked the exact same question. So maybe my2hands would be interested in watching that video, and that's why I posted it. And then he can agree or disagree with what's said on it. 

But you have all the answers, so tell me, what are the Democrats running on? Because that's was the question: what are they running on right now during this election cycle? Not "what does the democratic party stand for?" We all know the answer to that. 

Protecting american elections from foreign attacks.
NOW they want this to stop after their horrible 2016 loss. American elections have been meddled in for decades. 
Protecting medicare.
This is why they'll be getting my vote. 
Stopping voter purges and gerrymandering.
Democrats are just as guilty of Gerrymandering. You should see how they changed the Pennsylvania districts. 
Against rampant irresponsible deficits.
Everyone not in power says they're doing this. 
Common sense gun reform.
They say this every election. 
Against slashing taxes on the ridiculously rich.
They say this every election. 
Against trickle down.
They say this every election. 
For DACA and immigration reform.
What kind of immigration reform?
They are for providing a check on the executive branch.
Somebody's gotta do it. I wish them luck.
These are just a few off the top of my head. I listen to a lot of podcasts. A great one is Pod Save America, it's out twice a week. They have democratic candidates on every show who explain what they stand for.

My responses are in bold

Okay, what do you want from me? You asked and I answered. You seemed to already know what they stood for so why did you ask? 

I don't want anything from ya. You suggested I should find better sources than TV ads and Cable News and I asked well what do you know? So you seem to know. That's good.

dignin

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Who cares what Tucker says.

Even up here in Canada I hear plenty about what democrats stand for. I suggest you guys find better sources then TV ads and Fox news.

I'm not suggesting you have to "care" about what anybody says. my2hands asked "What is the Dems message right now besides Trump sucks? What is their platform, agenda, and ideas?" and Carlson asked the exact same question. So maybe my2hands would be interested in watching that video, and that's why I posted it. And then he can agree or disagree with what's said on it. 

But you have all the answers, so tell me, what does Democratic Party stand for right now...other than Trump is horrible?

I gotta say, I don't know either. mind you, I haven't researched it, but just reading the news here and there I see basically nothing. It's nothing but "vote blue!". 

The problem is that you don't live in the States, therefore you don't see local ads.  The Democratic strategy has been to localize the issues.  I'm in a competitive race in VA-7 and the issue is healthcare on the D side and Immigration on the R side.  

Yes, this is what I've been hearing for months. Not all candidates are the same, they are not the borg. The strategy is to have a big tent party right now. Candidates more tailored to the district they are running in.

Ledbetterman10

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

 And if you need someone else to explain that to you, there’s no hope.

Jeez you are just a caricature of all the liberals that that Trump whips his base into a frenzy over. I can almost see why they buy in. Almost. 

I'll never understand why simpletons hate smart people so much. The smart people are the ones that do things like heal them or make advances in agriculture.

If you had to take an IQ test to cast a vote (something that's actually reasonable- you can't have Simple Jack voting when he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground), Trump would lose in a landslide. His base wouldn't qualify.

I'm not sure if you're calling me a simpleton here but what I'm saying is I "get" where these MAGA-hat-wearing people might be coming from when they complain about smug elitists. And yes, I know the there's no smugger, elitist than Trump. The irony isn't lost on me.