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  • ikiTikiT USAPosts: 7,266
    dignin said:
    Trump was credibly accused of rape just a couple of weeks ago and it was barely a blip in the news. It just went on the "Trump is a piece of shit" pile, which is absolutely gigantic.

    There's just so much shitty shit he's done and doing its hard to find a place to start, he's inundating us with so much. How does one keep up?

    And the supporters have the nerve to say "well if it was true it would be front page news". It's all pretty unbelievable.
     
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  • ikiTikiT USAPosts: 7,266

    #ITMFA 


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  • mfc2006mfc2006 PDX--->KCPosts: 31,851
    njnancy said:
    jeffbr said:
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    The utm_source=reddit.com doesn't mean the info in the article came from Reddit. That is a tag in the URL to track where it was seen. So someone found this article on Reddit. It could have had a tag from facebook, or no tag at all if it was directly from their website. The utm in the URL is just for analytics. Just wanted to clarify that your last point doesn't make sense. A CNN or Fox News report could have a utm_source of reddit if that is where it was posted and they used utm_source for analytics.
    Gotcha. Thanks. Ok. My bad.   

    I just checked MSNBC.com.  This story is not reported there.  Lol.   Acosta defending his sentencing is the headline. I'd think this would be front and center if other such news agencies thought it had even a modicum of fact. 
    It was the headline because he just held a press conference. 

    MSNBC has covered this aspect of this disgusting case. 

    I don't get what the LOL is for though. There is nothing funny in any way about this whole lurid story.
    Nothing funny about it at all.
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  • ikiTikiT USAPosts: 7,266
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    There are multiple instances of @EdsonNascimento casually talking about Bill Clinton's "history of rape" as concrete facts....yet here he is giving Trump, who has been accused by many more women and is even on tape admitting to sexually assaulting them simply because he is a celebrity, the benefit of the doubt. Gee. I wonder why?

    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/comment/6591748#
    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/comment/6592280#Comment_6592280

    Folks, in the Trump era and then in the Post Trump era, we must hold his hypocritical supporters accountable for their nonsense. 
    Lol Clinton did commit rape thought it's called workplace sexual harassment.  That's rape in my book. When the most powerful person in the company (i.e. world) has an intern provide a blow job - that's rape. Plain and simple.   Even if he thought it was "consensual." As with underage girls, there's no consent possible.
    LOL'ing away from this convo.

    EN-You're not in charge of the book.  Plain and simple.  Adults (even interns) make decisions.  
    Children?  Not so much.

    You know what is rape?  What Donnie did to E. Jean Carroll in the dressing room.  HILARIOUS, right?  Ignoring it is even funnier.

    sostupid


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  • EdsonNascimentoEdsonNascimento Posts: 5,189
    mfc2006 said:
    njnancy said:
    jeffbr said:
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    The utm_source=reddit.com doesn't mean the info in the article came from Reddit. That is a tag in the URL to track where it was seen. So someone found this article on Reddit. It could have had a tag from facebook, or no tag at all if it was directly from their website. The utm in the URL is just for analytics. Just wanted to clarify that your last point doesn't make sense. A CNN or Fox News report could have a utm_source of reddit if that is where it was posted and they used utm_source for analytics.
    Gotcha. Thanks. Ok. My bad.   

    I just checked MSNBC.com.  This story is not reported there.  Lol.   Acosta defending his sentencing is the headline. I'd think this would be front and center if other such news agencies thought it had even a modicum of fact. 
    It was the headline because he just held a press conference. 

    MSNBC has covered this aspect of this disgusting case. 

    I don't get what the LOL is for though. There is nothing funny in any way about this whole lurid story.
    Nothing funny about it at all.
    You're smarter than that (or at least I believe so).  The Lol wasn't at the situation, but rather the prior post.  I think the context was pretty simple. I'm assuming you just read her simpleton response to try to negate the point than the actual post she was referring to.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 20,432
    Would anyone want to wager whether any of those caged unaccompanied or separated from their parents minors are being sexually abused, either by fellow detainees or the adults responsible for their care and safety? Everyone okay with Team Trump Treason’s complicity? Par for the course, right? Welcome to ‘Murica where moral compasses don’t exist.
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  • EdsonNascimentoEdsonNascimento Posts: 5,189
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    There are multiple instances of @EdsonNascimento casually talking about Bill Clinton's "history of rape" as concrete facts....yet here he is giving Trump, who has been accused by many more women and is even on tape admitting to sexually assaulting them simply because he is a celebrity, the benefit of the doubt. Gee. I wonder why?

    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/comment/6591748#
    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/comment/6592280#Comment_6592280

    Folks, in the Trump era and then in the Post Trump era, we must hold his hypocritical supporters accountable for their nonsense. 
    Lol Clinton did commit rape thought it's called workplace sexual harassment.  That's rape in my book. When the most powerful person in the company (i.e. world) has an intern provide a blow job - that's rape. Plain and simple.   Even if he thought it was "consensual." As with underage girls, there's no consent possible.
    Lol. Dude. This is your quote:
    "to be purely political, Bills rape came out before he was elected and Hillary attacked the victim.   And all of that happened before Hillary ran for senate or anything else.  Then he doubled down while in office.   If that doesn't bother you, I don't know what to tell you."

    You're talking about his accusations as if they were undisputed facts. With Trump, you're giving him a MUCH longer leash when it comes to the benefit of the doubt. 

    Just asking for some consistency.

    Be better.  
    Lol - I'm laughing at you not the situation to help those that can't or don't want to understand - context, context, context - to be purely political (As in - from a political lense) - and it was in reference to Hillary attacking the victim (Alleged or otherwise - to be fair, I did not say alleged at the time, so your interpretation there is a fair one).  Hillary did attack the victim. Has Melania? That's the similar reference.  Is Melania running for office.  

    So, taking things out of context is fun.  You need another hobby.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • EdsonNascimentoEdsonNascimento Posts: 5,189
    dignin said:
    Trump was credibly accused of rape just a couple of weeks ago and it was barely a blip in the news. It just went on the "Trump is a piece of shit" pile, which is absolutely gigantic.

    There's just so much shitty shit he's done and doing its hard to find a place to start, he's inundating us with so much. How does one keep up?

    And the supporters have the nerve to say "well if it was true it would be front page news". It's all pretty unbelievable.
     
    For the record - not a Trump supporter. I do support (most of) his policies.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • EdsonNascimentoEdsonNascimento Posts: 5,189
    Would anyone want to wager whether any of those caged unaccompanied or separated from their parents minors are being sexually abused, either by fellow detainees or the adults responsible for their care and safety? Everyone okay with Team Trump Treason’s complicity? Par for the course, right? Welcome to ‘Murica where moral compasses don’t exist.
    The bad actors need to be brought to justice.  Whoever committed those crimes you are referring to need to be severely punished once proven guilty  (And hopefully quickly).  As with all other crimes of similar nature.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • njnancynjnancy Northern New JerseyPosts: 4,779
    mfc2006 said:
    njnancy said:
    jeffbr said:
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    The utm_source=reddit.com doesn't mean the info in the article came from Reddit. That is a tag in the URL to track where it was seen. So someone found this article on Reddit. It could have had a tag from facebook, or no tag at all if it was directly from their website. The utm in the URL is just for analytics. Just wanted to clarify that your last point doesn't make sense. A CNN or Fox News report could have a utm_source of reddit if that is where it was posted and they used utm_source for analytics.
    Gotcha. Thanks. Ok. My bad.   

    I just checked MSNBC.com.  This story is not reported there.  Lol.   Acosta defending his sentencing is the headline. I'd think this would be front and center if other such news agencies thought it had even a modicum of fact. 
    It was the headline because he just held a press conference. 

    MSNBC has covered this aspect of this disgusting case. 

    I don't get what the LOL is for though. There is nothing funny in any way about this whole lurid story.
    Nothing funny about it at all.
    You're smarter than that (or at least I believe so).  The Lol wasn't at the situation, but rather the prior post.  I think the context was pretty simple. I'm assuming you just read her simpleton response to try to negate the point than the actual post she was referring to.
    Matt is smart.

    'Her' is not a simpleton nor does 'her' write simpleton responses. There is no need for that.

    I responded to your post about MSNBC/headlines,nothing brainless there.

    I commented on the LOL because I don't find sex trafficking peodphilia nor the coverage of it funny in the least.

    I have not said anything dismissive or demeaning to you, I expect the same courtesy.

    Maybe then we can have real debate. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 20,432
    dignin said:
    Trump was credibly accused of rape just a couple of weeks ago and it was barely a blip in the news. It just went on the "Trump is a piece of shit" pile, which is absolutely gigantic.

    There's just so much shitty shit he's done and doing its hard to find a place to start, he's inundating us with so much. How does one keep up?

    And the supporters have the nerve to say "well if it was true it would be front page news". It's all pretty unbelievable.
     
    For the record - not a Trump supporter. I do support (most of) his policies.
    As a supporter of most of Team Trump Treason’s policies, do you support separating minor migrant children from their parents at the border and caging them?
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 PDX--->KCPosts: 31,851
    mfc2006 said:
    njnancy said:
    jeffbr said:
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    The utm_source=reddit.com doesn't mean the info in the article came from Reddit. That is a tag in the URL to track where it was seen. So someone found this article on Reddit. It could have had a tag from facebook, or no tag at all if it was directly from their website. The utm in the URL is just for analytics. Just wanted to clarify that your last point doesn't make sense. A CNN or Fox News report could have a utm_source of reddit if that is where it was posted and they used utm_source for analytics.
    Gotcha. Thanks. Ok. My bad.   

    I just checked MSNBC.com.  This story is not reported there.  Lol.   Acosta defending his sentencing is the headline. I'd think this would be front and center if other such news agencies thought it had even a modicum of fact. 
    It was the headline because he just held a press conference. 

    MSNBC has covered this aspect of this disgusting case. 

    I don't get what the LOL is for though. There is nothing funny in any way about this whole lurid story.
    Nothing funny about it at all.
    You're smarter than that (or at least I believe so).  The Lol wasn't at the situation, but rather the prior post.  I think the context was pretty simple. I'm assuming you just read her simpleton response to try to negate the point than the actual post she was referring to.
    My response was simply that there is nothing funny about this type of behavior at all.

    In addition to that, she made a valid response regarding how MSNBC has covered it. I hope that clears it up.
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  • ikiTikiT USAPosts: 7,266
    dignin said:
    Trump was credibly accused of rape just a couple of weeks ago and it was barely a blip in the news. It just went on the "Trump is a piece of shit" pile, which is absolutely gigantic.

    There's just so much shitty shit he's done and doing its hard to find a place to start, he's inundating us with so much. How does one keep up?

    And the supporters have the nerve to say "well if it was true it would be front page news". It's all pretty unbelievable.
     
    For the record - not a Trump supporter. I do support (most of) his policies.
    There are fine people on both sides...
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 34,085
    ikiT said:
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    There are multiple instances of @EdsonNascimento casually talking about Bill Clinton's "history of rape" as concrete facts....yet here he is giving Trump, who has been accused by many more women and is even on tape admitting to sexually assaulting them simply because he is a celebrity, the benefit of the doubt. Gee. I wonder why?

    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/comment/6591748#
    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/comment/6592280#Comment_6592280

    Folks, in the Trump era and then in the Post Trump era, we must hold his hypocritical supporters accountable for their nonsense
    word.
    The internet is forever. At least it will be fun watching these people try to weasel their way out of previous statements.
    Look! It's happening already here in this thread!
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  • ikiTikiT USAPosts: 7,266
    dignin said:
    Trump was credibly accused of rape just a couple of weeks ago and it was barely a blip in the news. It just went on the "Trump is a piece of shit" pile, which is absolutely gigantic.

    There's just so much shitty shit he's done and doing its hard to find a place to start, he's inundating us with so much. How does one keep up?

    And the supporters have the nerve to say "well if it was true it would be front page news". It's all pretty unbelievable.
     
    For the record - not a Trump supporter. I do support (most of) his policies.
    Just remember: what you’re seeing and what you're reading is not what’s happening.
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  • ikiTikiT USAPosts: 7,266
    The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 6,388
    The current govt in power is a govt that preaches a rhetoric based wholly on....
    Fear
    Hate
    Ignorance 
    Jealousy 
    Lies

    I.e. a govt of evil

    When you support this govt and it's  "leader " you support evil
    When you support evil in any,  way, shape, or form that makes you evil as well

    #ITMFA 

  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 20,432
    Would anyone want to wager whether any of those caged unaccompanied or separated from their parents minors are being sexually abused, either by fellow detainees or the adults responsible for their care and safety? Everyone okay with Team Trump Treason’s complicity? Par for the course, right? Welcome to ‘Murica where moral compasses don’t exist.
    The bad actors need to be brought to justice.  Whoever committed those crimes you are referring to need to be severely punished once proven guilty  (And hopefully quickly).  As with all other crimes of similar nature.
    Let’s see how aggressively they investigate and prosecute those BPA responsible. I’m not holding my breath and expect Sheriff Joe like pardons. Or they could just add a disco ball and invite Team Trump Treason and Epstein down for a “party.”

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/10/politics/migrant-child-abuse-allegations-yuma-sector/index.html
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 14,114
    edited July 11
    "Could you imagine having Sleepy Joe Biden, or @AlfredENeuman99 ;or a very nervous and skinny version of Pocahontas (1000/24th), as your President, rather than what you have now, so great looking and smart, a true Stable Genius!" Mr Trump tweeted.

    Is the bolded really true @RYME ?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 20,432
    “I love the uneducated.” Thanks, Faux News.


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    “Wherever the people are well informed, they can be trusted with their own government.” Thomas Jefferson

    Let that sink in.


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    The man they call my enemy. I've seen his eyes, he looks just like me - A mirror...
  • EdsonNascimentoEdsonNascimento Posts: 5,189
    This is how you bend the cost curve and create better quality of living (and not by simply throwing more money at it - which is a bizarre way to reduce cost in the first place) -

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/how-trumps-executive-order-could-save-lives-by-transforming-how-the-us-treats-kidney-disease/ar-AAEbt5C?li=BBnb7Kz


    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 6,388
    Don't  worry about nagging things like the Constitution of the United States or the SCOTUS.
    Just do as you damn well please.....

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 12,861
    This is how you bend the cost curve and create better quality of living (and not by simply throwing more money at it - which is a bizarre way to reduce cost in the first place) -

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/how-trumps-executive-order-could-save-lives-by-transforming-how-the-us-treats-kidney-disease/ar-AAEbt5C?li=BBnb7Kz


    So the solution to the cost curve is executive order, not legislation.  That's an interesting take on the role of government.  We don't like the bicameral Constitutional process, we like the monarch process.  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 20,432
    mrussel1 said:
    This is how you bend the cost curve and create better quality of living (and not by simply throwing more money at it - which is a bizarre way to reduce cost in the first place) -

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/how-trumps-executive-order-could-save-lives-by-transforming-how-the-us-treats-kidney-disease/ar-AAEbt5C?li=BBnb7Kz


    So the solution to the cost curve is executive order, not legislation.  That's an interesting take on the role of government.  We don't like the bicameral Constitutional process, we like the monarch process.  
    Monarch is putting it too kindly. Authoritarian is more like it.
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