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  • njnancynjnancy Posts: 5,096
    benjs said:
    njnancy said:
    benjs said:
    ikiT said:
    he gonna get stomped yo.  
    Personally, I think the 'never compromise' cohort of nominees threaten this reality. All it took was one of several different actions in the 2016 elections to have lost Trump the election. That very likely would've included a cohort of 'Bernie Bros' who were vocal in refusing to vote for Clinton when push came to shove, and this time could include a cohort of Sanders/Warren/Williamson voters (okay, maybe the Williamson voters aren't going to sway the election, but Sanders and Warren voters could). If a more classical candidate makes it through the primaries, I'm very worried about this happening.
    It's not the time for a candidate that wants to change the way that the country works. Whether I agree with them or not is irrelevant. Trump is that person on the right, it is the wrong strategy on the right. And saying they will sign executive orders on day one is wrong, wrong wrong. We want to counter Trump's disregard for regular order. 

    Dems will win the popular vote again, no doubt. The problem is will they win the electoral college. They need to chill the hell out with the opposite revolution of Trump. We need someone who is not 'scary' but has the right priorities. This candidate can't be the one who is going to change everything to a leftist view. It's not the time. The Dems are making a huge mistake and the base is not who votes in the general. Most Dems are left of center or center, but not far left. I hope they get on the right path. Not saying anyone is wrong, or right for the matter, just saying it's not the time to recreate the country - that's happening right now and the country needs a person who is not for doing that. 
    Nancy, I'm not sure I made my point well based on your response. I'm not talking about recreating the country - I'm talking about the calculus of votes. I'm suggesting that there was an anti-corruption cohort of voters last time around, who would not vote anyone other than an anti-corruption politician (Sanders). I'm saying that I fear that with the 'never compromise' rhetoric from Sanders/Warren, that same cohort could exist again (and in fact larger with the combined pool of voters in that frame of mind), which could make the path to presidency for a 'safe route' politician like Biden challenging. It's the danger of Democratic in-fighting - how they risk alienating voters from their DNC peers' agendas, and not just the Republican agenda, and thus reduce the cumulative DNC voting base post-primaries. 
    I agree with  your post. I just added a bit more 'passion' to the argument. Damn Dems are gonna mess this up. Especially with the no compromise bs. They are already tainting people in their own party before the general, it really angers me. 

    And Sanders has again stated that he is going all the way to the convention. So much for getting behind the nominee.

    And this is why we can't have nice things. 


  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,029
    Trump’s July Fourth event and weekend protests bankrupted D.C. security fund, mayor says


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/trumps-july-fourth-event-and-weekend-protests-bankrupted-dc-security-fund-mayor-says/2019/07/10/fb0d1de4-a316-11e9-b732-41a79c2551bf_story.html?utm_term=.d873e234fd6c&tid=sm_fb

    President Trump’s overhauled July Fourth celebration cost the D.C. government $1.7 million, an amount that — combined with police expenses for demonstrations through the weekend — has bankrupted a special fund used to protect the nation’s capital from terrorist threats and provide security at events such as rallies and state funerals.

    In a letter to the president Tuesday, D.C. Mayor Muriel E. Bowser (D) warned that the fund has now been depleted and is estimated to be running a $6 million deficit by Sept. 30. The mayor also noted that the account was never reimbursed for $7.3 million in expenses from Trump’s 2017 inauguration.

    [Read the mayor’s letter to the president here]

    Bowser requested that the White House commit to fully reimbursing the fund.

    “We ask for your help with ensuring the residents of the District of Columbia are not asked to cover millions of dollars of federal expenses and are able to maintain our high standards of protection for federal events,” she wrote.

    The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
    Trump’s expensive Fourth of July event, explained

    President Trump has asked the Pentagon to marshal a broadening array of military hardware, including tanks and fighter jets, for his Fourth of July address. (Luis Velarde/The Washington Post)

    Chris Rodriguez, director of the D.C. Homeland Security and Emergency Management Agency, said in an interview that the estimated costs for July Fourth were six times as much as in years past and were likely to grow as the city continues to tally expenses.

    [Trump still owes the District $7.3 million in inauguration costs]

    The president’s new Independence Day celebration, called “A Salute to America,” included a speech by Trump at the Lincoln Memorial, flyovers by military aircraft and a display of armored vehicles on the Mall. The changes stoked protests of the president at what is typically an apolitical event, with activists flying a derisive “Baby Trump” balloon near the World War II Memorial.

    On Saturday, some of the president’s supporters gathered at a rally on Freedom Plaza organized by right-wing activists. That event also drew a large counter protest, and hundreds of police officers were deployed to prevent violence between the two sides.

    The District’s Emergency Planning and Security Fund is filled by federal money that reimburses the city for its unique public safety costs as the nation’s capital. Those include providing security at presidential inaugurations, visits by foreign dignitaries and the massive rallies that periodically come to the District.

    While it once carried large balances from year to year, in the Trump era the fund has dwindled. It was never repaid more than $7 million of the $27.3 million in costs the city incurred during the 2017 inauguration, city officials said.

    [Norton, Van Hollen seek $6 million for D.C. security costs]

    White House officials have said that the District agreed to use unspent money in the emergency fund to pay for inaugural costs, an assertion denied by the Bowser administration.

    Congress and the White House have been placing less money in the account each year than the city is spending — in fiscal 2017, for example, $14.9 million was added to the fund while $24.4 million was spent.

    Bowser said in her letter to Trump that the December funeral of former president George H.W. Bush had also contributed to the fund’s depletion.

    Last month, Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D), the District’s nonvoting representative in Congress, and Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) wrote a letter to leaders of the House and Senate appropriations committees urging that an additional $6 million be put into the emergency fund.





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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,484
    edited July 2019
    He’s an absolute embarrassment to humanity.
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  • EdsonNascimentoEdsonNascimento Posts: 5,522
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,338
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    Business Insider is a pretty good source and if you look around this story is being reported widely.

    And given Trump's history this is really, really easy to believe.
  • njnancynjnancy Posts: 5,096
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    This was broken by a different news source and confirmed. Do you REALLY doubt that this happened? Really?
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,257
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
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  • njnancynjnancy Posts: 5,096
    I am ready to slap this Acosta dude. He should just stop talking. It's making things worse. 
  • EdsonNascimentoEdsonNascimento Posts: 5,522
    njnancy said:
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    This was broken by a different news source and confirmed. Do you REALLY doubt that this happened? Really?

    Doubt it happened as it's being quoted?  Yes. Believe it's in the realm of possibility?  Also, yes.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • njnancynjnancy Posts: 5,096
    njnancy said:
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    This was broken by a different news source and confirmed. Do you REALLY doubt that this happened? Really?

    Doubt it happened as it's being quoted?  Yes. Believe it's in the realm of possibility?  Also, yes.
    Fair enough.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,257
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    There are multiple instances of @EdsonNascimento casually talking about Bill Clinton's "history of rape" as concrete facts....yet here he is giving Trump, who has been accused by many more women and is even on tape admitting to sexually assaulting them simply because he is a celebrity, the benefit of the doubt. Gee. I wonder why?

    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/comment/6591748#
    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/comment/6592280#Comment_6592280

    Folks, in the Trump era and then in the Post Trump era, we must hold his hypocritical supporters accountable for their nonsense. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,551
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    Care to comment on the affidavit in support of the restraining order, attached in the linked document?

     https://www.scribd.com/doc/316341058/Donald-Trump-Jeffrey-Epstein-Rape-Lawsuit-and-Affidavits
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,257
    njnancy said:
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    This was broken by a different news source and confirmed. Do you REALLY doubt that this happened? Really?

    Doubt it happened as it's being quoted?  Yes. Believe it's in the realm of possibility?  Also, yes.
    This is reasonable. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,551
    dignin said:
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    Business Insider is a pretty good source and if you look around this story is being reported widely.

    And given Trump's history this is really, really easy to believe.
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  • EdsonNascimentoEdsonNascimento Posts: 5,522
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    There are multiple instances of @EdsonNascimento casually talking about Bill Clinton's "history of rape" as concrete facts....yet here he is giving Trump, who has been accused by many more women and is even on tape admitting to sexually assaulting them simply because he is a celebrity, the benefit of the doubt. Gee. I wonder why?

    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/comment/6591748#
    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/comment/6592280#Comment_6592280

    Folks, in the Trump era and then in the Post Trump era, we must hold his hypocritical supporters accountable for their nonsense. 
    Lol Clinton did commit rape thought it's called workplace sexual harassment.  That's rape in my book. When the most powerful person in the company (i.e. world) has an intern provide a blow job - that's rape. Plain and simple.   Even if he thought it was "consensual." As with underage girls, there's no consent possible.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • EdsonNascimentoEdsonNascimento Posts: 5,522
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    Care to comment on the affidavit in support of the restraining order, attached in the linked document?

     https://www.scribd.com/doc/316341058/Donald-Trump-Jeffrey-Epstein-Rape-Lawsuit-and-Affidavits
    Yeah. It's an accusation to be investigated.   Let's see what comes of it.

    I mean really. C'mon guys - this isn't that difficult. If it's proven he did this, then he should be severely punished. I'm just not going to do that based on accusations and reddit stories.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,338
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    Care to comment on the affidavit in support of the restraining order, attached in the linked document?

     https://www.scribd.com/doc/316341058/Donald-Trump-Jeffrey-Epstein-Rape-Lawsuit-and-Affidavits
    Yeah. It's an accusation to be investigated.   Let's see what comes of it.

    I mean really. C'mon guys - this isn't that difficult. If it's proven he did this, then he should be severely punished. I'm just not going to do that based on accusations and reddit stories.
    Not a Reddit story, why do you keep insinuating it is?
  • EdsonNascimentoEdsonNascimento Posts: 5,522
    dignin said:
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    Care to comment on the affidavit in support of the restraining order, attached in the linked document?

     https://www.scribd.com/doc/316341058/Donald-Trump-Jeffrey-Epstein-Rape-Lawsuit-and-Affidavits
    Yeah. It's an accusation to be investigated.   Let's see what comes of it.

    I mean really. C'mon guys - this isn't that difficult. If it's proven he did this, then he should be severely punished. I'm just not going to do that based on accusations and reddit stories.
    Not a Reddit story, why do you keep insinuating it is?
    utm_source=reddit.com

    Just b/c another publication links to it, doesn't make it their story. Investigate the source of your material. In this case, it wasn't that difficult. It was right there in the link.  Also, like I said - look up George Houraney and see if he might have an axe to grind.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    The utm_source=reddit.com doesn't mean the info in the article came from Reddit. That is a tag in the URL to track where it was seen. So someone found this article on Reddit. It could have had a tag from facebook, or no tag at all if it was directly from their website. The utm in the URL is just for analytics. Just wanted to clarify that your last point doesn't make sense. A CNN or Fox News report could have a utm_source of reddit if that is where it was posted and they used utm_source for analytics.
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  • EdsonNascimentoEdsonNascimento Posts: 5,522
    jeffbr said:
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    The utm_source=reddit.com doesn't mean the info in the article came from Reddit. That is a tag in the URL to track where it was seen. So someone found this article on Reddit. It could have had a tag from facebook, or no tag at all if it was directly from their website. The utm in the URL is just for analytics. Just wanted to clarify that your last point doesn't make sense. A CNN or Fox News report could have a utm_source of reddit if that is where it was posted and they used utm_source for analytics.
    Gotcha. Thanks. Ok. My bad.   

    I just checked MSNBC.com.  This story is not reported there.  Lol.   Acosta defending his sentencing is the headline. I'd think this would be front and center if other such news agencies thought it had even a modicum of fact. 
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,338
    dignin said:
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    Care to comment on the affidavit in support of the restraining order, attached in the linked document?

     https://www.scribd.com/doc/316341058/Donald-Trump-Jeffrey-Epstein-Rape-Lawsuit-and-Affidavits
    Yeah. It's an accusation to be investigated.   Let's see what comes of it.

    I mean really. C'mon guys - this isn't that difficult. If it's proven he did this, then he should be severely punished. I'm just not going to do that based on accusations and reddit stories.
    Not a Reddit story, why do you keep insinuating it is?
    utm_source=reddit.com

    Just b/c another publication links to it, doesn't make it their story. Investigate the source of your material. In this case, it wasn't that difficult. It was right there in the link.  Also, like I said - look up George Houraney and see if he might have an axe to grind.
    I don't think you understand how Reddit or any other news aggregation site works. 

    As jeffbr has just stated.
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,338
    jeffbr said:
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    The utm_source=reddit.com doesn't mean the info in the article came from Reddit. That is a tag in the URL to track where it was seen. So someone found this article on Reddit. It could have had a tag from facebook, or no tag at all if it was directly from their website. The utm in the URL is just for analytics. Just wanted to clarify that your last point doesn't make sense. A CNN or Fox News report could have a utm_source of reddit if that is where it was posted and they used utm_source for analytics.
    Gotcha. Thanks. Ok. My bad.   

    I just checked MSNBC.com.  This story is not reported there.  Lol.   Acosta defending his sentencing is the headline. I'd think this would be front and center if other such news agencies thought it had even a modicum of fact. 
    If you want to shit on a source or article at least take the time to read it. Otherwise you can look really silly. The original source for this article was from the New York Times ( yeah I know, the failing one). Was referenced right at the beginning of the article.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/09/us/politics/trump-epstein.html


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,551
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    Please point me to the post where someone stated, "I/we hope Team Trump Treason molested under age girls."
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,257
    edited July 2019
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    There are multiple instances of @EdsonNascimento casually talking about Bill Clinton's "history of rape" as concrete facts....yet here he is giving Trump, who has been accused by many more women and is even on tape admitting to sexually assaulting them simply because he is a celebrity, the benefit of the doubt. Gee. I wonder why?

    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/comment/6591748#
    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/comment/6592280#Comment_6592280

    Folks, in the Trump era and then in the Post Trump era, we must hold his hypocritical supporters accountable for their nonsense. 
    Lol Clinton did commit rape thought it's called workplace sexual harassment.  That's rape in my book. When the most powerful person in the company (i.e. world) has an intern provide a blow job - that's rape. Plain and simple.   Even if he thought it was "consensual." As with underage girls, there's no consent possible.
    Lol. Dude. This is your quote:
    "to be purely political, Bills rape came out before he was elected and Hillary attacked the victim.   And all of that happened before Hillary ran for senate or anything else.  Then he doubled down while in office.   If that doesn't bother you, I don't know what to tell you."

    You're talking about his accusations as if they were undisputed facts. With Trump, you're giving him a MUCH longer leash when it comes to the benefit of the doubt. 

    Just asking for some consistency.

    Be better.  

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  • njnancynjnancy Posts: 5,096
    jeffbr said:
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    The utm_source=reddit.com doesn't mean the info in the article came from Reddit. That is a tag in the URL to track where it was seen. So someone found this article on Reddit. It could have had a tag from facebook, or no tag at all if it was directly from their website. The utm in the URL is just for analytics. Just wanted to clarify that your last point doesn't make sense. A CNN or Fox News report could have a utm_source of reddit if that is where it was posted and they used utm_source for analytics.
    Gotcha. Thanks. Ok. My bad.   

    I just checked MSNBC.com.  This story is not reported there.  Lol.   Acosta defending his sentencing is the headline. I'd think this would be front and center if other such news agencies thought it had even a modicum of fact. 
    It was the headline because he just held a press conference. 

    MSNBC has covered this aspect of this disgusting case. 

    I don't get what the LOL is for though. There is nothing funny in any way about this whole lurid story.
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,193
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    Following a ton of circumstantial evidence of chauvinistic behaviour from Trump, over 20 sexual abuse allegations, and a legacy of hanging around with people like Epstein, and thus concluding that Trump likely has acted unsavourily, does not mean that anyone wants Trump to be proven unsavoury; it means we collectively have functional eyes and ears. If I smell smoke in a building on fire, does that also mean I want it to burn to the ground?
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,338
    edited July 2019
    Trump was credibly accused of rape just a couple of weeks ago and it was barely a blip in the news. It just went on the "Trump is a piece of shit" pile, which is absolutely gigantic.

    There's just so much shitty shit he's done and doing its hard to find a place to start, he's inundating us with so much. How does one keep up?

    And the supporters have the nerve to say "well if it was true it would be front page news". It's all pretty unbelievable.
     
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,551
    dignin said:
    Trump was credibly accused of rape just a couple of weeks ago and it was barely a blip in the news. It just went on the "Trump is a piece of shit" pile, which is absolutely gigantic.

    There's just so much shitty shit he's done and doing its hard to find a place to start, he's inundating us with so much. How does one keep up?

    And the supporters have the nerve to say "well if it was true it would be front page news". It's all pretty unbelievable.
     
    Hey but the unemployment rate and stock market, right? Woot.
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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,057
    dignin said:

    Trump once hosted an exclusive party with Jeffrey Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate, a new report says. It was just the 2 of them and '28 girls.'



    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-epstein-party-at-mar-a-lago-women-2019-7?utm_source=reddit.com
    Don't jump at every story b/c you want it to be true (kind of scary there's a segment here that actually does hope Trump molested under age girls).  Consider the source and the fact that this isn't front page on every site.

    Not saying there aren't some facts that are correct in there (not that I'd know), but considering the source (look up George Houraney) I'd be skeptical there's not some missing facts and some slanting of others.  You shouldn't need a source=reddit in your link for real stories.
    There are multiple instances of @EdsonNascimento casually talking about Bill Clinton's "history of rape" as concrete facts....yet here he is giving Trump, who has been accused by many more women and is even on tape admitting to sexually assaulting them simply because he is a celebrity, the benefit of the doubt. Gee. I wonder why?

    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/comment/6591748#
    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/comment/6592280#Comment_6592280

    Folks, in the Trump era and then in the Post Trump era, we must hold his hypocritical supporters accountable for their nonsense
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