Donald Trump

PJPOWER

josevolution said:

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

Tiki said:

Trump denies offering $1 million for Warren DNA test, even though he did

#payupfatass

sounds like he's going to say it doesn't prove she's an "Indian" which was what he offered the $1mil for.  Total bullshit of course.

All that fucking time he was calling her "Pocahontas".....

The tests showed that she is no more Native American than the average European American, right?  Her tests came back that she was between 1/64 and 1/1,024 Native American.  Hell, I’m more Native American than she is, lol.  
Regardless, the whole thing just seems like a sideshow.  I don’t imagine that anyone supported her based on her heritage, right?

Funny you criticize her but not one word on him calling her Pocahantas and offering to pay a million which he is on tape saying it lol ..

Go smoke another one Jose...where did I criticize her?  I was just saying what the tests showed.

my2hands

Tiki said:

Trump calls Stormy Daniels 'Horseface'

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/411607-trump-calls-stormy-daniels-horseface

Amazing reporting there by the hill *eye roll*

my2hands

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/16/politics/donald-trump-fundraising/index.html

While people focus on toilet paper and name calling, I hope they are ready for 8 years of it, because its happening

PJ_Soul

pjl44 said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjl44 said:

The Cherokee Nation is not pleased with today's news

https://www.mediaite.com/online/cherokee-nation-criticizes-elizabeth-warren-over-dna-test-undermining-tribal-interests-with-heritage-claims/

It seems to me that they're criticizing the wrong person.

But yeah, I certainly wish this would all go away immediately. It's incredibly inappropriate and uncomfortable, and I would have hoped that Warren is way above even acknowledging any of this Pocahontas shit coming from Trump.

That's awfully dismissive of their point. They have concerns that go beyond 2018 partisan American political bickering.

I'm not dismissive, and I'm aware of the issues. I was simply focusing on something in particular, i.e. my thoughts about Warren as far as this is concerned. Are you saying that I'm obligated to focus on what the Cherokee nation wants to focus on in every post about this?

Jason P

I’m not sure why Warren would even stoop back into Trump’s dojo based on the results of that test. If anything it suggests she has insulated herself with “yes” people on her team if no one raised the possibility that this was an unwise move that could easily get flipped back against her. Wasn’t the fact that Trump’s derogatory term attack could be used as a rally for him attacking women good enough?  

If I’m trying to prove a point and my best point is that I’m right to a percentage point that even Indy Car and F1 don’t use to determine lap times,  I’m gonna keep looking for another avenue to prove I’m right. 

PJ_Soul

Jason P said:

I’m not sure why Warren would even stoop back into Trump’s dojo based on the results of that test. If anything it suggests she has insulated herself with “yes” people on her team if no one raised the possibility that this was an unwise move that could easily get flipped back against her. Wasn’t the fact that Trump’s derogatory term attack could be used as a rally for him attacking women good enough?  

If I’m trying to prove a point and my best point is that I’m right to a percentage point that even Indy Car and F1 don’t use to determine lap times,  I’m gonna keep looking for another avenue to prove I’m right. 

Yeah, agreed. Although I do give her enough to credit to assume that she did think it through... and she decided to do it anyway for some reason... I dunno, I guess everyone is entitled to make a less than good decision every once in a while. I still think she's pretty great (in relative terms, as always when speaking about politicians). I'm not going to hold this against her or anything. But she really should have just ignored Trump on this completely, and let the idiot continue to dig his own hole with the racist and sexist rhetoric.

Gern Blansten

Jason P said:

I’m not sure why Warren would even stoop back into Trump’s dojo based on the results of that test. If anything it suggests she has insulated herself with “yes” people on her team if no one raised the possibility that this was an unwise move that could easily get flipped back against her. Wasn’t the fact that Trump’s derogatory term attack could be used as a rally for him attacking women good enough?  

If I’m trying to prove a point and my best point is that I’m right to a percentage point that even Indy Car and F1 don’t use to determine lap times,  I’m gonna keep looking for another avenue to prove I’m right. 

Without the test being revealed tRump would continue to berate her.  The test should have shut him up but of course now he just says the test was fake and his idiot followers believe him.

Gern Blansten

I do like that she can now demand that $1,000,000 to charity from him now.  He's a multi-billionaire (according to him)...$1mil is like finding a buck in the street

PJ_Soul

Gern Blansten said:

I do like that she can now demand that $1,000,000 to charity from him now.  He's a multi-billionaire (according to him)...$1mil is like finding a buck in the street

Yeah, good point. I mean, he's the one who challenged her to do it, in the name of charity (and is also the one who kept hammering her in that totally racist way that he did) ... One can definitely look at this as her trying to earn $1M for charity, and now he can be the guy who refuses to donate to charity even though he promised to.

Anyway, at the end of the day, no matter how you look at it, Trump comes out the bad guy, as usual.

pjl44

PJ_Soul said:

pjl44 said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjl44 said:

The Cherokee Nation is not pleased with today's news

https://www.mediaite.com/online/cherokee-nation-criticizes-elizabeth-warren-over-dna-test-undermining-tribal-interests-with-heritage-claims/

It seems to me that they're criticizing the wrong person.

But yeah, I certainly wish this would all go away immediately. It's incredibly inappropriate and uncomfortable, and I would have hoped that Warren is way above even acknowledging any of this Pocahontas shit coming from Trump.

That's awfully dismissive of their point. They have concerns that go beyond 2018 partisan American political bickering.

I'm not dismissive, and I'm aware of the issues. I was simply focusing on something in particular, i.e. my thoughts about Warren as far as this is concerned. Are you saying that I'm obligated to focus on what the Cherokee nation wants to focus on in every post about this?

"It seems to me that they're criticizing the wrong person" is completely dismissive of what they're taking offense to. 

PJ_Soul

pjl44 said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjl44 said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjl44 said:

The Cherokee Nation is not pleased with today's news

https://www.mediaite.com/online/cherokee-nation-criticizes-elizabeth-warren-over-dna-test-undermining-tribal-interests-with-heritage-claims/

It seems to me that they're criticizing the wrong person.

But yeah, I certainly wish this would all go away immediately. It's incredibly inappropriate and uncomfortable, and I would have hoped that Warren is way above even acknowledging any of this Pocahontas shit coming from Trump.

That's awfully dismissive of their point. They have concerns that go beyond 2018 partisan American political bickering.

I'm not dismissive, and I'm aware of the issues. I was simply focusing on something in particular, i.e. my thoughts about Warren as far as this is concerned. Are you saying that I'm obligated to focus on what the Cherokee nation wants to focus on in every post about this?

"It seems to me that they're criticizing the wrong person" is completely dismissive of what they're taking offense to. 

It's not dismissive. It's an opinion about their focus. Not agreeing isn't the same as dismissive.

pjl44

PJ_Soul said:

pjl44 said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjl44 said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjl44 said:

The Cherokee Nation is not pleased with today's news

https://www.mediaite.com/online/cherokee-nation-criticizes-elizabeth-warren-over-dna-test-undermining-tribal-interests-with-heritage-claims/

It seems to me that they're criticizing the wrong person.

But yeah, I certainly wish this would all go away immediately. It's incredibly inappropriate and uncomfortable, and I would have hoped that Warren is way above even acknowledging any of this Pocahontas shit coming from Trump.

That's awfully dismissive of their point. They have concerns that go beyond 2018 partisan American political bickering.

I'm not dismissive, and I'm aware of the issues. I was simply focusing on something in particular, i.e. my thoughts about Warren as far as this is concerned. Are you saying that I'm obligated to focus on what the Cherokee nation wants to focus on in every post about this?

"It seems to me that they're criticizing the wrong person" is completely dismissive of what they're taking offense to. 

It's not dismissive. It's an opinion about their focus. Not agreeing isn't the same as dismissive.

You are not dismissing their point, just saying they should drop it and focus on something else. Got it.

PJ_Soul

pjl44 said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjl44 said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjl44 said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjl44 said:

The Cherokee Nation is not pleased with today's news

https://www.mediaite.com/online/cherokee-nation-criticizes-elizabeth-warren-over-dna-test-undermining-tribal-interests-with-heritage-claims/

It seems to me that they're criticizing the wrong person.

But yeah, I certainly wish this would all go away immediately. It's incredibly inappropriate and uncomfortable, and I would have hoped that Warren is way above even acknowledging any of this Pocahontas shit coming from Trump.

That's awfully dismissive of their point. They have concerns that go beyond 2018 partisan American political bickering.

I'm not dismissive, and I'm aware of the issues. I was simply focusing on something in particular, i.e. my thoughts about Warren as far as this is concerned. Are you saying that I'm obligated to focus on what the Cherokee nation wants to focus on in every post about this?

"It seems to me that they're criticizing the wrong person" is completely dismissive of what they're taking offense to. 

It's not dismissive. It's an opinion about their focus. Not agreeing isn't the same as dismissive.

You are not dismissing their point, just saying they should drop it and focus on something else. Got it.

Oh FFS. I didn't say they should do anything at all. Are you hallucinating posts or something?

pjl44

PJ_Soul said:

pjl44 said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjl44 said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjl44 said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjl44 said:

The Cherokee Nation is not pleased with today's news

https://www.mediaite.com/online/cherokee-nation-criticizes-elizabeth-warren-over-dna-test-undermining-tribal-interests-with-heritage-claims/

It seems to me that they're criticizing the wrong person.

But yeah, I certainly wish this would all go away immediately. It's incredibly inappropriate and uncomfortable, and I would have hoped that Warren is way above even acknowledging any of this Pocahontas shit coming from Trump.

That's awfully dismissive of their point. They have concerns that go beyond 2018 partisan American political bickering.

I'm not dismissive, and I'm aware of the issues. I was simply focusing on something in particular, i.e. my thoughts about Warren as far as this is concerned. Are you saying that I'm obligated to focus on what the Cherokee nation wants to focus on in every post about this?

"It seems to me that they're criticizing the wrong person" is completely dismissive of what they're taking offense to. 

It's not dismissive. It's an opinion about their focus. Not agreeing isn't the same as dismissive.

You are not dismissing their point, just saying they should drop it and focus on something else. Got it.

Oh FFS. I didn't say they should do anything at all. Are you hallucinating posts or something?

You said, as I quoted directly twice, that they should be criticizing someone else and not her

PJ_Soul

pjl44 said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjl44 said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjl44 said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjl44 said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjl44 said:

The Cherokee Nation is not pleased with today's news

https://www.mediaite.com/online/cherokee-nation-criticizes-elizabeth-warren-over-dna-test-undermining-tribal-interests-with-heritage-claims/

It seems to me that they're criticizing the wrong person.

But yeah, I certainly wish this would all go away immediately. It's incredibly inappropriate and uncomfortable, and I would have hoped that Warren is way above even acknowledging any of this Pocahontas shit coming from Trump.

That's awfully dismissive of their point. They have concerns that go beyond 2018 partisan American political bickering.

I'm not dismissive, and I'm aware of the issues. I was simply focusing on something in particular, i.e. my thoughts about Warren as far as this is concerned. Are you saying that I'm obligated to focus on what the Cherokee nation wants to focus on in every post about this?

"It seems to me that they're criticizing the wrong person" is completely dismissive of what they're taking offense to. 

It's not dismissive. It's an opinion about their focus. Not agreeing isn't the same as dismissive.

You are not dismissing their point, just saying they should drop it and focus on something else. Got it.

Oh FFS. I didn't say they should do anything at all. Are you hallucinating posts or something?

You said, as I quoted directly twice, that they should be criticizing someone else and not her

No, I said that it seems to me that they're criticizing the wrong person. I you can't see the difference between what you're saying and what I actually said, that's not my problem.

oftenreading

Gern Blansten said:

I do like that she can now demand that $1,000,000 to charity from him now.  He's a multi-billionaire (according to him)...$1mil is like finding a buck in the street

I assumed that the main reason she did it was to get him to either (1) pay up the $1,000,000 to charity, or (2) be able to prove him (again) a lying blowhard who doesn’t keep his promises. It’s win-win. 

pjl44

PJ_Soul said:

pjl44 said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjl44 said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjl44 said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjl44 said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjl44 said:

The Cherokee Nation is not pleased with today's news

https://www.mediaite.com/online/cherokee-nation-criticizes-elizabeth-warren-over-dna-test-undermining-tribal-interests-with-heritage-claims/

It seems to me that they're criticizing the wrong person.

But yeah, I certainly wish this would all go away immediately. It's incredibly inappropriate and uncomfortable, and I would have hoped that Warren is way above even acknowledging any of this Pocahontas shit coming from Trump.

That's awfully dismissive of their point. They have concerns that go beyond 2018 partisan American political bickering.

I'm not dismissive, and I'm aware of the issues. I was simply focusing on something in particular, i.e. my thoughts about Warren as far as this is concerned. Are you saying that I'm obligated to focus on what the Cherokee nation wants to focus on in every post about this?

"It seems to me that they're criticizing the wrong person" is completely dismissive of what they're taking offense to. 

It's not dismissive. It's an opinion about their focus. Not agreeing isn't the same as dismissive.

You are not dismissing their point, just saying they should drop it and focus on something else. Got it.

Oh FFS. I didn't say they should do anything at all. Are you hallucinating posts or something?

You said, as I quoted directly twice, that they should be criticizing someone else and not her

No, I said that it seems to me that they're criticizing the wrong person. I you can't see the difference between what you're saying and what I actually said, that's not my problem.

cincybearcat

my2hands said:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/16/politics/donald-trump-fundraising/index.html

While people focus on toilet paper and name calling, I hope they are ready for 8 years of it, because its happening

Be careful. Everytime I point out all the stupid stuff the left is focused on, they don't take kindly to it.

It's amazing how low Trump has brought the national discussion.  And people keep following him down.

Gern Blansten

I think we might be in for a surprise in 2020.  I'm guessing some republican (Flake? Kasich?) will run on an Independent ticket to siphon votes away from tRump to make sure he doesn't pollute our country any more than necessary.

PJ_Soul

cincybearcat said:

my2hands said:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/16/politics/donald-trump-fundraising/index.html

While people focus on toilet paper and name calling, I hope they are ready for 8 years of it, because its happening

Be careful. Everytime I point out all the stupid stuff the left is focused on, they don't take kindly to it.

It's amazing how low Trump has brought the national discussion.  And people keep following him down.

I really don't think this is at all restricted to the left.