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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,510
    mrussel1 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    The producers should start putting a sticker on their products ”this product is now sadly 5% more expensive because of Donald Trump”
    This tariff's timing seems to be a deflection.

    However - we bitch and moan about other countries stealing jobs and then we bitch and moan about tariffs that try to level the playing field because we have to pay more?  Not sure about the mexico tariff but I am mostly aligned with Trump on the China tariffs and discussion.  It's the one area that he is actually trying to do the work of a president.  The US people don't have the stomach for any hard work anymore.
    I admit I have no problem with the trade war with China, since I think that every western nation should boycott China altogether until the get in line in terms of the right to freedom of its citizens, and stops being a totalitarian government with its hands all over international criminality that has a multi-billion dollar impact on our economies, i.e. money laundering and drug trafficking, among other things. The Chinese government is essentially the world's gangland boss. Obviously all of our countries continue to do business with them, eagerly, because of MONEY MONEY MONEY, and to hell with all the drugs and crime their government facilitates around the world, and to hell with the death and misery it brings upon its own people, and to hell with their extreme Big Brother tactics. Money rules as far as any of our own governments are concerned. I do know that complete boycotts on China would create global economic chaos if China refused to get in line very quickly (and maybe it would, who knows). Yes, I am aware it would destroy mega-companies and make things more expensive, etc etc etc. It would be like an economic revolution, and a messy one. But to me it would be worth it, frankly. It would stop this disturbing trend of everyone making China the fast-rising challenger in being the world's ultimate economic and military leader/dominator. I don't want to live in a world where a government like China's essentially rules the world. Fuck that. I can't believe we've all let it get as far as it has, with it being the way it is. This has to fucking stop... preferably without a fucking war with China, because I can't see anyone besides China winning that! Sigh. But I'm not an idiot. None of this will happen, and China will keep handily take over the world.
    For the record, the TPP would have gone a long way to marginalize China.  While reducing trade barriers may seem to help the Chinese, strict labor standards along with pay minimums would make the Chinese labor market less desirable, and they were not even included in the talks.  Instead, Trump walked away from it (Bernie would have too, and Hillary was bullied into it... all mistakes), and China is now negotiating directly with SE Asia nations and strengthening its hand.  


    He cares not as much as marginalizing China as he does owning Obama. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,309
    mrussel1 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    The producers should start putting a sticker on their products ”this product is now sadly 5% more expensive because of Donald Trump”
    This tariff's timing seems to be a deflection.

    However - we bitch and moan about other countries stealing jobs and then we bitch and moan about tariffs that try to level the playing field because we have to pay more?  Not sure about the mexico tariff but I am mostly aligned with Trump on the China tariffs and discussion.  It's the one area that he is actually trying to do the work of a president.  The US people don't have the stomach for any hard work anymore.
    I admit I have no problem with the trade war with China, since I think that every western nation should boycott China altogether until the get in line in terms of the right to freedom of its citizens, and stops being a totalitarian government with its hands all over international criminality that has a multi-billion dollar impact on our economies, i.e. money laundering and drug trafficking, among other things. The Chinese government is essentially the world's gangland boss. Obviously all of our countries continue to do business with them, eagerly, because of MONEY MONEY MONEY, and to hell with all the drugs and crime their government facilitates around the world, and to hell with the death and misery it brings upon its own people, and to hell with their extreme Big Brother tactics. Money rules as far as any of our own governments are concerned. I do know that complete boycotts on China would create global economic chaos if China refused to get in line very quickly (and maybe it would, who knows). Yes, I am aware it would destroy mega-companies and make things more expensive, etc etc etc. It would be like an economic revolution, and a messy one. But to me it would be worth it, frankly. It would stop this disturbing trend of everyone making China the fast-rising challenger in being the world's ultimate economic and military leader/dominator. I don't want to live in a world where a government like China's essentially rules the world. Fuck that. I can't believe we've all let it get as far as it has, with it being the way it is. This has to fucking stop... preferably without a fucking war with China, because I can't see anyone besides China winning that! Sigh. But I'm not an idiot. None of this will happen, and China will keep handily take over the world.
    For the record, the TPP would have gone a long way to marginalize China.  While reducing trade barriers may seem to help the Chinese, strict labor standards along with pay minimums would make the Chinese labor market less desirable, and they were not even included in the talks.  Instead, Trump walked away from it (Bernie would have too, and Hillary was bullied into it... all mistakes), and China is now negotiating directly with SE Asia nations and strengthening its hand.  


    He cares not as much as marginalizing China as he does owning Obama. 
    Very true.  He would kill for a deal with NK that looked like the JCPOA, yet he panned that deal because Obama did it.  Petty.  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,194
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    The producers should start putting a sticker on their products ”this product is now sadly 5% more expensive because of Donald Trump”
    This tariff's timing seems to be a deflection.

    However - we bitch and moan about other countries stealing jobs and then we bitch and moan about tariffs that try to level the playing field because we have to pay more?  Not sure about the mexico tariff but I am mostly aligned with Trump on the China tariffs and discussion.  It's the one area that he is actually trying to do the work of a president.  The US people don't have the stomach for any hard work anymore.
    I admit I have no problem with the trade war with China, since I think that every western nation should boycott China altogether until the get in line in terms of the right to freedom of its citizens, and stops being a totalitarian government with its hands all over international criminality that has a multi-billion dollar impact on our economies, i.e. money laundering and drug trafficking, among other things. The Chinese government is essentially the world's gangland boss. Obviously all of our countries continue to do business with them, eagerly, because of MONEY MONEY MONEY, and to hell with all the drugs and crime their government facilitates around the world, and to hell with the death and misery it brings upon its own people, and to hell with their extreme Big Brother tactics. Money rules as far as any of our own governments are concerned. I do know that complete boycotts on China would create global economic chaos if China refused to get in line very quickly (and maybe it would, who knows). Yes, I am aware it would destroy mega-companies and make things more expensive, etc etc etc. It would be like an economic revolution, and a messy one. But to me it would be worth it, frankly. It would stop this disturbing trend of everyone making China the fast-rising challenger in being the world's ultimate economic and military leader/dominator. I don't want to live in a world where a government like China's essentially rules the world. Fuck that. I can't believe we've all let it get as far as it has, with it being the way it is. This has to fucking stop... preferably without a fucking war with China, because I can't see anyone besides China winning that! Sigh. But I'm not an idiot. None of this will happen, and China will keep handily take over the world.
    For the record, the TPP would have gone a long way to marginalize China.  While reducing trade barriers may seem to help the Chinese, strict labor standards along with pay minimums would make the Chinese labor market less desirable, and they were not even included in the talks.  Instead, Trump walked away from it (Bernie would have too, and Hillary was bullied into it... all mistakes), and China is now negotiating directly with SE Asia nations and strengthening its hand.  


    He cares not as much as marginalizing China as he does owning Obama. 
    Very true.  He would kill for a deal with NK that looked like the JCPOA, yet he panned that deal because Obama did it.  Petty.  
    Who in their right mind would make a deal with the Team Trump Treason administration? Horrible negotiator and reneges only minutes or days later. I wouldn’t trust anything Team Trump Treason agreed to.
     
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,309
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    The producers should start putting a sticker on their products ”this product is now sadly 5% more expensive because of Donald Trump”
    This tariff's timing seems to be a deflection.

    However - we bitch and moan about other countries stealing jobs and then we bitch and moan about tariffs that try to level the playing field because we have to pay more?  Not sure about the mexico tariff but I am mostly aligned with Trump on the China tariffs and discussion.  It's the one area that he is actually trying to do the work of a president.  The US people don't have the stomach for any hard work anymore.
    I admit I have no problem with the trade war with China, since I think that every western nation should boycott China altogether until the get in line in terms of the right to freedom of its citizens, and stops being a totalitarian government with its hands all over international criminality that has a multi-billion dollar impact on our economies, i.e. money laundering and drug trafficking, among other things. The Chinese government is essentially the world's gangland boss. Obviously all of our countries continue to do business with them, eagerly, because of MONEY MONEY MONEY, and to hell with all the drugs and crime their government facilitates around the world, and to hell with the death and misery it brings upon its own people, and to hell with their extreme Big Brother tactics. Money rules as far as any of our own governments are concerned. I do know that complete boycotts on China would create global economic chaos if China refused to get in line very quickly (and maybe it would, who knows). Yes, I am aware it would destroy mega-companies and make things more expensive, etc etc etc. It would be like an economic revolution, and a messy one. But to me it would be worth it, frankly. It would stop this disturbing trend of everyone making China the fast-rising challenger in being the world's ultimate economic and military leader/dominator. I don't want to live in a world where a government like China's essentially rules the world. Fuck that. I can't believe we've all let it get as far as it has, with it being the way it is. This has to fucking stop... preferably without a fucking war with China, because I can't see anyone besides China winning that! Sigh. But I'm not an idiot. None of this will happen, and China will keep handily take over the world.
    For the record, the TPP would have gone a long way to marginalize China.  While reducing trade barriers may seem to help the Chinese, strict labor standards along with pay minimums would make the Chinese labor market less desirable, and they were not even included in the talks.  Instead, Trump walked away from it (Bernie would have too, and Hillary was bullied into it... all mistakes), and China is now negotiating directly with SE Asia nations and strengthening its hand.  


    He cares not as much as marginalizing China as he does owning Obama. 
    Very true.  He would kill for a deal with NK that looked like the JCPOA, yet he panned that deal because Obama did it.  Petty.  
    Who in their right mind would make a deal with the Team Trump Treason administration? Horrible negotiator and reneges only minutes or days later. I wouldn’t trust anything Team Trump Treason agreed to.
     
    Literally no one.  Everyone knows his word isn't worth shit.  
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,870
    Boy, do I ever find this comparing how big countries' war balls are distasteful and low brow. Just voicing my opinion about it. Carry on.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,309
    PJ_Soul said:
    Boy, do I ever find this comparing how big countries' war balls are distasteful and low brow. Just voicing my opinion about it. Carry on.
    I'll try to be smarter and classier for you. 
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,055
    PJ_Soul said:
    Boy, do I ever find this comparing how big countries' war balls are distasteful and low brow. Just voicing my opinion about it. Carry on.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,194
    Remember that authoritarianism we were talking about? Another step closer.

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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Posts: 15,165
    lol he called Meghan Markle "nasty"
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    That’s accurate.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,129
    https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-says-he-would-be-much-better-princess-than-meghan-markle
    Is this for realzzz man he’s totally nuts or what would you call it ..
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    LOL.  WTF.  He is going completely nuts.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,194
    I heard it was a TMZ intercept of a phone call with a Mar-I-Lieo member.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,659
    Not for real
    New Yorker humor
    But believable
  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,170
    So why does he call Meghan nasty, is there a particular reason?

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    g under p said:
    So why does he call Meghan nasty, is there a particular reason?

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  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,052
    What a surprise...

    Trump tells UK he 'wouldn't pay' $50 billion Brexit divorce bill


    https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/02/politics/trump-sunday-times-interview-brexit-grb-intl/index.html
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,055
    ikiT said:
    What a surprise...

    Trump tells UK he 'wouldn't pay' $50 billion Brexit divorce bill


    https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/02/politics/trump-sunday-times-interview-brexit-grb-intl/index.html
    Trump would somehow make the bill $150 billion. 
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    When Trump says he won’t pay a bill that’s probably the one thing you can believe.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,309
    When Trump says he won’t pay a bill that’s probably the one thing you can believe.
    So true.  He thinks everything is like getting an overdone steak at a restaurant.  Bitch and get 20% off or refuse to pay.  
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,129
    mrussel1 said:
    When Trump says he won’t pay a bill that’s probably the one thing you can believe.
    So true.  He thinks everything is like getting an overdone steak at a restaurant.  Bitch and get 20% off or refuse to pay.  
    lol that just seems so fitting but in his case it would be Big Mac’s !
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  • Hi!Hi! Posts: 3,095
    mrussel1 said:
    When Trump says he won’t pay a bill that’s probably the one thing you can believe.
    So true.  He thinks everything is like getting an overdone steak at a restaurant.  Bitch and get 20% off or refuse to pay.  
    Trump actually prefers his steaks well done with lots of ketchup.

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,309
    Hi! said:
    mrussel1 said:
    When Trump says he won’t pay a bill that’s probably the one thing you can believe.
    So true.  He thinks everything is like getting an overdone steak at a restaurant.  Bitch and get 20% off or refuse to pay.  
    Trump actually prefers his steaks well done with lots of ketchup.
    Ha ha, touche. 
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,055
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Posts: 15,165
    Hearing an American tourist in London saying he's done great things for the US.
    Like what?
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,309
    Hearing an American tourist in London saying he's done great things for the US.
    Like what?
    Literally nothing.  Tariffs,  north Korea,  middle east,  NATO, Russia,  all failures thus far
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Posts: 15,165
    He's now saying he did not call Meghan Markle nasty lol.
    What a crazy man.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    LOL.  WTF.  He is going completely nuts.
    bwahahaha... thats funny cause my black lab would make a much better president that he would. guess we cant all get what we want. 
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    LOL.  WTF.  He is going completely nuts.
    bwahahaha... thats funny cause my black lab would make a much better president that he would. guess we cant all get what we want. 
    My black lab would as well.  The world would be a happy and wonderful place if dogs were in charge...lol
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