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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    The dumbest POTUS ever is GWB ...how many people died in his bogus wars.  The second dumbest is any politician who supported those wars ..., when Trump commits to commits to 2 major armed conflicts then he'll be approaching W's level of dumb...not until.  W is a war criminal and anyone who voted for that war is no less criminal.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    Meltdown99 said:
    The dumbest POTUS ever is GWB ...how many people died in his bogus wars.  The second dumbest is any politician who supported those wars ..., when Trump commits to commits to 2 major armed conflicts then he'll be approaching W's level of dumb...not until.  W is a war criminal and anyone who voted for that war is no less criminal.
    Being a criminal and being dumb aren't the same thing (and aren't mutually exclusive either)... Trump is dumber than Bush for sure. That has nothing to do with war.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,520
    Meltdown99 said:
    The dumbest POTUS ever is GWB ...how many people died in his bogus wars.  The second dumbest is any politician who supported those wars ..., when Trump commits to commits to 2 major armed conflicts then he'll be approaching W's level of dumb...not until.  W is a war criminal and anyone who voted for that war is no less criminal.
    W wasn't dumb for that. he was complicit in war crimes. that doesn't equal dumb. 
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,578
    I haven’t heard death toll as the way to measure intelligence before. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,364
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:

    “One of the wettest we’ve ever seen, from the standpoint of water

    Is that really a quote?
    In reference to how his golf course in NC was holding up, no less. Mind the water hazards on every hole, tally ho!
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    edited September 2018
    I think it is cute that a warmonger who is responsible for countless death and destruction is not dumb.  But of course many of you sided with war  monger mccain only because he had a running dispute with Trump.., predictable on these boards these days...
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    edited September 2018
    Meltdown99 said:
    I think it is cute that a warmonger who is responsible for countless death and destruction is not dumb.  But of course many of you sided with war  monger mccain only because he had a running dispute with Trump.., predictable on these boards these days...
    I didn't side with McCain. I do think that it's really, really weird that you equate war crimes with stupidity, or even call countless deaths and destruction "dumb".
    Now, GW is kinda dumb, with or without the war crimes. But Trump is much, much dumber, and that is also separate from his own war crimes that have already been committed and will inevitably be committed in the future. McCain, on the other hand, was not dumb.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Meltdown99 said:
    I think it is cute that a warmonger who is responsible for countless death and destruction is not dumb.  But of course many of you sided with war  monger mccain only because he had a running dispute with Trump.., predictable on these boards these days...
    Okay, so what's your definition of "dumb"? It seems a little idiosyncratic.

    I can think of a few individuals in history that are responsible for massive death tolls that I would not consider "dumb". Misguided, corrupt, vicious, maybe, but not dumb. The venn diagrams of the two concepts don't have a ton of overlap.
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  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:

    “One of the wettest we’ve ever seen, from the standpoint of water

    Is that really a quote?
    In reference to how his golf course in NC was holding up, no less. Mind the water hazards on every hole, tally ho!
    It's part of a twitter video by 45 discussing the Hurricane Florence response. It really is a quote, from the standpoint of words. 
  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    dignin said:

    “One of the wettest we’ve ever seen, from the standpoint of water

    he is the stupidest president in history. 
    “.... from the standpoint of stupid” 
    LOL and then back to cringing.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    Meltdown99 said:
    I think it is cute that a warmonger who is responsible for countless death and destruction is not dumb.  But of course many of you sided with war  monger mccain only because he had a running dispute with Trump.., predictable on these boards these days...
    What does "sided" mean, in this context?  This is an awfully sweeping statement you're making here. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    I always felt that Bush was a rube, a pawn in the hands of the neocon. Trump is diabolical.  And he has blood on his hands already.  Puerto Rico and the outrageous drone strike frequency. 
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,452
    mrussel1 said:
    I always felt that Bush was a rube, a pawn in the hands of the neocon. Trump is diabolical.  And he has blood on his hands already.  Puerto Rico and the outrageous drone strike frequency. 
    Not a rube but a puppet whose strings were pulled by the real president, dick cheney, and his henchman karl rove
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,364
    “Have a good time.”

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    Bentleyspop said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I always felt that Bush was a rube, a pawn in the hands of the neocon. Trump is diabolical.  And he has blood on his hands already.  Puerto Rico and the outrageous drone strike frequency. 
    Not a rube but a puppet whose strings were pulled by the real president, dick cheney, and his henchman karl rove
    We're saying the same thing.  I personally hold Rumsfeld, Cheney, Wolfowitz, etc, much more morally responsible.  I know W was in charge, but he was a simpleton.  
    I didn't even see this article before I ripped Trump for the strikes.  It's common knowledge that he has ordered far more than Obama ever did in 8 years already.  Now this article is published that shows the lack of humanity.

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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,578
    Meltdown99 said:
    I think it is cute that a warmonger who is responsible for countless death and destruction is not dumb.  But of course many of you sided with war  monger mccain only because he had a running dispute with Trump.., predictable on these boards these days...
    Bush jr is dumb in that simpleton kind of way. He probably tried to understand things, but they were just over his head. trump is dumb in a intentionally ignorant way, made worse by his self-centered narcissism where he considers own stupid thoughts as genius, so there's no curiosity or reason to gather more information.   
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    Go Beavers said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    I think it is cute that a warmonger who is responsible for countless death and destruction is not dumb.  But of course many of you sided with war  monger mccain only because he had a running dispute with Trump.., predictable on these boards these days...
    Bush jr is dumb in that simpleton kind of way. He probably tried to understand things, but they were just over his head. trump is dumb in a intentionally ignorant way, made worse by his self-centered narcissism where he considers own stupid thoughts as genius, so there's no curiosity or reason to gather more information.   
    Trump has the emotional intelligence of a gnat.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,578
    PJ_Soul said:
    Go Beavers said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    I think it is cute that a warmonger who is responsible for countless death and destruction is not dumb.  But of course many of you sided with war  monger mccain only because he had a running dispute with Trump.., predictable on these boards these days...
    Bush jr is dumb in that simpleton kind of way. He probably tried to understand things, but they were just over his head. trump is dumb in a intentionally ignorant way, made worse by his self-centered narcissism where he considers own stupid thoughts as genius, so there's no curiosity or reason to gather more information.   
    Trump has the emotional intelligence of a gnat.
    Which makes everything worse in his current role where he’s supposed to keep in mind the millions of people he works for. Apparently being a real estate goon and bully on tv is a different skill set than President. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    Go Beavers said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Go Beavers said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    I think it is cute that a warmonger who is responsible for countless death and destruction is not dumb.  But of course many of you sided with war  monger mccain only because he had a running dispute with Trump.., predictable on these boards these days...
    Bush jr is dumb in that simpleton kind of way. He probably tried to understand things, but they were just over his head. trump is dumb in a intentionally ignorant way, made worse by his self-centered narcissism where he considers own stupid thoughts as genius, so there's no curiosity or reason to gather more information.   
    Trump has the emotional intelligence of a gnat.
    Which makes everything worse in his current role where he’s supposed to keep in mind the millions of people he works for. Apparently being a real estate goon and bully on tv is a different skill set than President. 
    No one could have known that would be the case..
    Like healthcare...
  • josevolution
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    Meltdown99 said:
    I think it is cute that a warmonger who is responsible for countless death and destruction is not dumb.  But of course many of you sided with war  monger mccain only because he had a running dispute with Trump.., predictable on these boards these days...
    So would you say someone like Hitler is dumb or dummer than W , Baffoon is a total idiot in the fact that his knowledge of history is nill that his personality displays that he's dummer than the average Joe , if your measuring who's dummer by the amount of deaths that they are responsible for Hitler would be numero 1 no ? 
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