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  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,052
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    my2hands said:
    Funny how the goal posts have moved from collusion to taxes and obstruction

    What happened to the Donny Jr and Jared indictments? We ended up with Manafort on tax issues well before Trump, and goofy Roger Stone for talking to Wikileaks about worthless Podesta emails... thats it for the crime of the century? zzzzzzzz
    If you looked back with an unbiased eye, you’d see that many people here have been talking about obstruction and financial crimes for months. 
    Like i said, moving goal posts, right when the media started moving the goal posts because collusion and the russian stooge theory were not coming to fruition 
  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,052
    A crime is a crime all crimes no matter who’s the person being investigated have to be seen all the way through! 
    Electoral Crime is CRIME  Financial Crime is CRIME 

    Riling people up to the brink of violence is only a misdemeanor, but is still illegal.

    Some are happy to keep cheering on their wrestling villain president.  HILARIOUS

    His dreamworld is just about to ennnnnnnnd.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    my2hands said:
    Funny how the goal posts have moved from collusion to taxes and obstruction

    What happened to the Donny Jr and Jared indictments? We ended up with Manafort on tax issues well before Trump, and goofy Roger Stone for talking to Wikileaks about worthless Podesta emails... thats it for the crime of the century? zzzzzzzz
    You're okay with obstruction, we get it. In fact, you seem okay with all of Team Trump Treason's transgressions, even though you claim not to support him and prefer Uncle Joe. Interesting. "Worthless Podesta emails?" Stolen, worthless podesta emails, I might add. "Russia, if you're listening..............and you're okay with it.
    You assume more than any person I've ever met
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Is this where 8 or 9 posters take turns yelling at me? Lol
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Tiki said:
    A crime is a crime all crimes no matter who’s the person being investigated have to be seen all the way through! 

    His dreamworld is just about to ennnnnnnnd.
    We'll see... i have a bootleg that says he is on the ticket in 2020
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,331
    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    Funny how the goal posts have moved from collusion to taxes and obstruction

    What happened to the Donny Jr and Jared indictments? We ended up with Manafort on tax issues well before Trump, and goofy Roger Stone for talking to Wikileaks about worthless Podesta emails... thats it for the crime of the century? zzzzzzzz
    If you looked back with an unbiased eye, you’d see that many people here have been talking about obstruction and financial crimes for months. 
    Like i said, moving goal posts, right when the media started moving the goal posts because collusion and the russian stooge theory were not coming to fruition 
    2017
    If Trump was president anytime during the Cold War he would have already been tried and convicted as a treasonous soviet sympathizer
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,295
    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    Funny how the goal posts have moved from collusion to taxes and obstruction

    What happened to the Donny Jr and Jared indictments? We ended up with Manafort on tax issues well before Trump, and goofy Roger Stone for talking to Wikileaks about worthless Podesta emails... thats it for the crime of the century? zzzzzzzz
    You're okay with obstruction, we get it. In fact, you seem okay with all of Team Trump Treason's transgressions, even though you claim not to support him and prefer Uncle Joe. Interesting. "Worthless Podesta emails?" Stolen, worthless podesta emails, I might add. "Russia, if you're listening..............and you're okay with it.
    You assume more than any person I've ever met
    Did you not characterize what’s happened thus far as “this is it for the crime of the century” followed by “zzzzzzzz?” And labeled Podesta’s emails as “worthless?” What should we assume about your characterization? And if you had been reading this thread with an unbiased eye, you would have seen that I listed obstruction and tax evasion as two of the possible 6-8 charges.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,295
    my2hands said:
    Is this where 8 or 9 posters take turns yelling at me? Lol
    Followed by complaints of being ganged up on, bullied and an @mods post? 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,348
    Shouldn't Mueller himself be the one saying that his report is more damaging to Trump that Barr has revealed? I guess Mueller is just waiting to be subpoenaed to testify...which seems more "by the book" than members of his team leaking information.  
    To be clear,  they aren't leaking information that is classified,  proprietary,  secret,  etc. They are saying they are uncomfortable or unhappy with the summary,  that it isn't representative of the report.  That's not illegal or unethical,  I would not think. 
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,839
    mrussel1 said:
    Shouldn't Mueller himself be the one saying that his report is more damaging to Trump that Barr has revealed? I guess Mueller is just waiting to be subpoenaed to testify...which seems more "by the book" than members of his team leaking information.  
    To be clear,  they aren't leaking information that is classified,  proprietary,  secret,  etc. They are saying they are uncomfortable or unhappy with the summary,  that it isn't representative of the report.  That's not illegal or unethical,  I would not think. 
    No I understand that. I wouldn't suspect Mueller's team to do something unethical, especially at this point, following all the work they've put in. I'd just rather hear it from the horse's mouth. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,348
    mrussel1 said:
    Shouldn't Mueller himself be the one saying that his report is more damaging to Trump that Barr has revealed? I guess Mueller is just waiting to be subpoenaed to testify...which seems more "by the book" than members of his team leaking information.  
    To be clear,  they aren't leaking information that is classified,  proprietary,  secret,  etc. They are saying they are uncomfortable or unhappy with the summary,  that it isn't representative of the report.  That's not illegal or unethical,  I would not think. 
    No I understand that. I wouldn't suspect Mueller's team to do something unethical, especially at this point, following all the work they've put in. I'd just rather hear it from the horse's mouth. 
    Or read it in the writer's hand...
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,348
    I don't know if you read the articles,  but it said the Mueller team prepared a summary for each section that wasn't classified or ran afoul  jury secrecy.  Yet Barr chose to do his own summary.  Shocking. 
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,839
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Shouldn't Mueller himself be the one saying that his report is more damaging to Trump that Barr has revealed? I guess Mueller is just waiting to be subpoenaed to testify...which seems more "by the book" than members of his team leaking information.  
    To be clear,  they aren't leaking information that is classified,  proprietary,  secret,  etc. They are saying they are uncomfortable or unhappy with the summary,  that it isn't representative of the report.  That's not illegal or unethical,  I would not think. 
    No I understand that. I wouldn't suspect Mueller's team to do something unethical, especially at this point, following all the work they've put in. I'd just rather hear it from the horse's mouth. 
    Or read it in the writer's hand...
    No thanks. I'll skim Halifax's hundreds (maybe thousands?) of posts about it before I sit down and read the whole thing. I have enough boring reports to both read and write at work. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,295
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Shouldn't Mueller himself be the one saying that his report is more damaging to Trump that Barr has revealed? I guess Mueller is just waiting to be subpoenaed to testify...which seems more "by the book" than members of his team leaking information.  
    To be clear,  they aren't leaking information that is classified,  proprietary,  secret,  etc. They are saying they are uncomfortable or unhappy with the summary,  that it isn't representative of the report.  That's not illegal or unethical,  I would not think. 
    No I understand that. I wouldn't suspect Mueller's team to do something unethical, especially at this point, following all the work they've put in. I'd just rather hear it from the horse's mouth. 
    Or read it in the writer's hand...
    No thanks. I'll skim Halifax's hundreds (maybe thousands?) of posts about it before I sit down and read the whole thing. I have enough boring reports to both read and write at work. 
    You trust me?
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,348
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Shouldn't Mueller himself be the one saying that his report is more damaging to Trump that Barr has revealed? I guess Mueller is just waiting to be subpoenaed to testify...which seems more "by the book" than members of his team leaking information.  
    To be clear,  they aren't leaking information that is classified,  proprietary,  secret,  etc. They are saying they are uncomfortable or unhappy with the summary,  that it isn't representative of the report.  That's not illegal or unethical,  I would not think. 
    No I understand that. I wouldn't suspect Mueller's team to do something unethical, especially at this point, following all the work they've put in. I'd just rather hear it from the horse's mouth. 
    Or read it in the writer's hand...
    No thanks. I'll skim Halifax's hundreds (maybe thousands?) of posts about it before I sit down and read the whole thing. I have enough boring reports to both read and write at work. 
    I don't care who reads it,  as long as it's public. 
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,839
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Shouldn't Mueller himself be the one saying that his report is more damaging to Trump that Barr has revealed? I guess Mueller is just waiting to be subpoenaed to testify...which seems more "by the book" than members of his team leaking information.  
    To be clear,  they aren't leaking information that is classified,  proprietary,  secret,  etc. They are saying they are uncomfortable or unhappy with the summary,  that it isn't representative of the report.  That's not illegal or unethical,  I would not think. 
    No I understand that. I wouldn't suspect Mueller's team to do something unethical, especially at this point, following all the work they've put in. I'd just rather hear it from the horse's mouth. 
    Or read it in the writer's hand...
    No thanks. I'll skim Halifax's hundreds (maybe thousands?) of posts about it before I sit down and read the whole thing. I have enough boring reports to both read and write at work. 
    You trust me?
    Sure. I'll read a few posts of yours, watch a Sean Hannity video or two, and find that the facts fall somewhere in the middle. 
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  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,052
    I've watched the Sean Hannity program.  I always start off by saying this is so stupid.   Then about 12 minutes in I get the what if HE'S telling the truth vibe and I shut that shit off. 

    Laura Ingraham is WAY worse.

    Hatred for Trump -- it's their animating principle, and they must constantly feed their media and political beasts, beasts who have been sharpening their teeth to devour Trump since the night he won the presidency. And I think in this twisted world of resistance, it doesn't matter if the case against Trump evaporated. They'll just create another one.

    The flames of conspiracy must be kept burning. The 'Get Trump Gang' requires new injections to reach the resistance euphoria that once felt so exhilarating. Now just on Tuesday, CNN and MSNBC found a truly sensational new morsel for their audiences -- how President Trump supposedly cheats at golf.


    He brings the stupid on himself.

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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,839
    edited April 2019
    Tiki said:
    I've watched the Sean Hannity program.  I always start off by saying this is so stupid.   Then about 12 minutes in I get the what if HE'S telling the truth vibe and I shut that shit off. 

    Laura Ingraham is WAY worse.

    Hatred for Trump -- it's their animating principle, and they must constantly feed their media and political beasts, beasts who have been sharpening their teeth to devour Trump since the night he won the presidency. And I think in this twisted world of resistance, it doesn't matter if the case against Trump evaporated. They'll just create another one.

    The flames of conspiracy must be kept burning. The 'Get Trump Gang' requires new injections to reach the resistance euphoria that once felt so exhilarating. Now just on Tuesday, CNN and MSNBC found a truly sensational new morsel for their audiences -- how President Trump supposedly cheats at golf.


    He brings the stupid on himself.

    I find Hannity more entertaining than I do factual. I mean, there are times where he rightfully calls out Democrats. It's not like they're perfect and Republicans are the only evil ones. Most of his show (like all those type of shows) is just partisan crap, but the shameless Trump shilling is just hilarious sometimes. Even to Trump himself apparently, as it's been said that he makes fun of Hannity in private for being such a kiss-ass. 

    Laura Ingrahm is awful in every conceivable way. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,295
    Only the best people, folks, only the best 999 people.

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,295
    Team Trump Treason tweets doctored videos. How presidential.
     
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    dignin said:
    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    Funny how the goal posts have moved from collusion to taxes and obstruction

    What happened to the Donny Jr and Jared indictments? We ended up with Manafort on tax issues well before Trump, and goofy Roger Stone for talking to Wikileaks about worthless Podesta emails... thats it for the crime of the century? zzzzzzzz
    If you looked back with an unbiased eye, you’d see that many people here have been talking about obstruction and financial crimes for months. 
    Like i said, moving goal posts, right when the media started moving the goal posts because collusion and the russian stooge theory were not coming to fruition 
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    If Trump was president anytime during the Cold War he would have already been tried and convicted as a treasonous soviet sympathizer
    Excellent, thank you for showing i'm capable of evolving and changing my opinion as we all should in life... we should all change and adapt.... could have told you my previous thoughts and saved you the effort, dont think its a secret around here... follow the rubles... i was caught up in the red hysteria and the hype... that was over 2 years ago... i unplugged from the cable news/media circus and hysteria, got out if my echo chamber, and i think things got a bit clearer for me..... how many left-leaning podcasts do you listen to regularly? And how many conservative leaning?

    Cohen didn't go to Prague, and nobody was indicted for the trump tower meeting with the russian attorney... if there was collusion and the russian puppet theory were real, Cohen in Prague and that meeting were linchpins to it and ut appears there is nothing thereon those fronts... 

    The indictments that came out of the Mueller investigation say little to nothing to me.... i'm supposed to jerk off to goofy Roger Stone? If the collusion was real his family would be involved, Mueller would have found it, and family would have been indicted 

    If somethings comes out, hang him by his toes, if not, than get ready for the election of a lifetime. I just try to call balls & strikes as i see them. 2+ years exhaustive investigation by the best and brightest and the most signifigant indictments are for old tax shit on a 70 year old and roger the dodger? Sorry, the report will be fascinating, looking forward to its release, but i think the indictments, or lack thereof, tell me what i need to know.... which is get ready for 2020
  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,052
    Cohen's PHONE went to Prague.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,295
    Tiki said:
    Cohen's PHONE went to Prague.
    ticktockticktock
    You fly to Paris or berlin and you enter the E.U. Once in the E.U., there’s really no record of you entering the Czech Republic via train, bus, car or plane. Other than tickets that someone else may have provided. But you know, his passport doesn’t have a stamp and he testified to such, so you know it couldn’t possibly be “collusion.” 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,173
    He’s obstructing the law by telling the IRS not to release his taxes , this Baffoon is just a down right criminal thug ! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,839
    Team Trump Treason tweets doctored videos. How presidential.
     
    This is NOT The fucking attitude that's going to beat Trump in 2020. Biden himself responded with something similar. Typical. You and Biden can sit there and say "Trump is so immature," or...you and the rest of the democrats can change with the times, and realize that memes and videos likes this are the modern day political cartoons. And whereas a hundred years ago, a candidate would have to be aligned with a newspaper or an artist to get that cartoon to the electorate, Trump does it with a push of a button on his phone. And one more political opponent is made look foolish and weak.....



    What a pussy response. Decades from now we'll be living in an Orwellian dystopia with no record of the past wondering "How exactly did Empress Ivanka come into power? I can't recall. Wasn't it something to do with her father or something?" Yes, that was it. A bunch of smug pussies couldn't beat a fucking game-show host and this is the world we're left with. 
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,839
    Biden should have tweeted something like this in response, all of Trump's sexual misconduct allegations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

    I mean, FUCKING FIGHT HIM. You're playing under his rules now! Have no shame. Trump trotted all of Bill Clinton's accusers out for a press conference! Oh...how tacky. Boo-hoo. You've got to beat him at his own game!
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,295
    Team Trump Treason tweets doctored videos. How presidential.
     
    This is NOT The fucking attitude that's going to beat Trump in 2020. Biden himself responded with something similar. Typical. You and Biden can sit there and say "Trump is so immature," or...you and the rest of the democrats can change with the times, and realize that memes and videos likes this are the modern day political cartoons. And whereas a hundred years ago, a candidate would have to be aligned with a newspaper or an artist to get that cartoon to the electorate, Trump does it with a push of a button on his phone. And one more political opponent is made look foolish and weak.....



    What a pussy response. Decades from now we'll be living in an Orwellian dystopia with no record of the past wondering "How exactly did Empress Ivanka come into power? I can't recall. Wasn't it something to do with her father or something?" Yes, that was it. A bunch of smug pussies couldn't beat a fucking game-show host and this is the world we're left with. 
    Do you think I give a fuck what Team Trump Treason tweets out? Do you think I wring my hands and pat my forehead dry at his junior high level schtick? I was just commenting on how I’d like my POTUS to spend his time on the real issues of the day and leave the political cartooning to Roger Dodger Stoned. Get a grip or tweet the DNC. Sheesh.
     
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,839
    Oh you'd like your POTUS to spend his time on real issues of the day. Well I guess you can't always get what you want. 
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